fli
17-05-2014, 06:59 PM
I have been thinking – a very hard task for me! After a few disappointing events over the last year or so, I have been struck by how much the management of a place can affect my punting choices and I have wondered whether it is me or whether some managements are almost an obstacle to getting what I want. As someone who often looks at management of companies, this is of interest to me and personally, I am amazed that what seems common sense to me is ignored e.g. checking emails and replying to emails if they give an email address on their website.
I have three examples that particularly made me wonder if I am missing the point completely. I am not trying to pick fights and so I am not going to identify the places - but these events are what has made me wonder about management and write this post.
Example 1: Complete non-service
I went to a full service place recently – in fact, I had been thinking of making it my regular place and had had three sessions there over a two week period – all quite good and while none was a compelling revisit, all the girls did more than the minimum expected and I would see them again.
The last time was, however, very unsatisfactory. The girl was pleasant and good-looking and so I was positive. Unlike the other girls who showered with me, she sent me to the shower on my own and then showered herself. When she came back, she let me hug her briefly before lying on the bed and letting me kiss her nipples and then she cautiously opened her legs and let me give her DATY until she came (or maybe pretended to cum),
Then she seemed to think the sexual part of the session was effectively over – there was no attempt to satisfy me. She kept her hands on her body, covering her pussy area. She didn’t even ask what I wanted and I would have to have demanded. She talked in a friendly manner but was totally uninterested in doing anything that might please me. I know I could have told her what I wanted but by the time I demanded, the fun would have gone out of it. I looked at the clock to see how much time left in the session – about 25 minutes – and she said “Do you have to go back to work now?”
For a one hour session costing over $300, I was amazed she could think that she had done enough but I wasn’t going to force her and so I went had a shower. When I came back, she said she was going to have a shower and I could leave when I had dressed.
This girl had been advertised as providing good service including BBBJ, cim and cof but for the $300+, I got no attempt to satisfy me. I sent a message to the reception, that it had been an unsatisfactory session. The first response was “sorry – I will talk to the girl and then our manager.” (A good response.)
Later I was told that the girl had thought the session was fine and she had found me pleasant but maybe she needed more training. Then there was an implication that they might sack her. I don’t like getting girls sacked and so I suggested she be given another chance but also since I worried that maybe it was something wrong with me, I offered that if I wasn’t welcome, I could go away – I had hoped they would say the usual “no, you are welcome to come again” but instead I got the response “Okay we will (keep her). Hope u have a good life even if it was too short. Enjoy it, Lol.” – very cryptic but I wondered if was a way of saying “drop dead soon”.
I tried to contact the manager for clarification but got no response – so I have given up on the place – a pity since it has some good girls.
I probably should have insisted more with the girl and not asked if I was welcome or not but I wonder a bit about management being not even slightly interested in keeping a paying client who was shown not to bully the girls and was trying to be reasonable.
Complete disregard
Before this, I was at an R&T place a few months back. Clearly it was pretty busy and the receptionist (and possibly owner) decided to give me the massage herself. About 10 minutes into the session, an argument erupted outside and she went out and joined in. I was left naked on the table unattended for about 30 minutes – the fight kept on – and finally the manager came in and told me someone else would finish off – I received a very perfunctory service from a girl who seemed to have no clue.
I am quite philosophic – these things happen – and so just as in the first case, I didn’t want to make too much of it.
However, when I left, the receptionist collared me – not to apologise but to tell me about the argument and ask me what she should do – I was underwhelmed: as a paying client, I thought some form of apology should be forthcoming before anything else – I made some minor suggestions and headed off.
Why did the receptionist think my service so unimportant that she could just disregard my session and think I should be focused on her problems?
Too Much Emotion
The third example is more ambiguous and I had a few serious lapses of judgement but nothing I believe that was very grevious. I had got to know the management reasonably well – I was a regular but I stupidly sent a message to them that should have gone to another competing shop. I am amazed at my own stupidity but I was quite upset at the time since I had been told something that made me feel I was being treated like a fool and made it clear I was upset.
Suffice it to say I was accused of trying to make trouble (I Wasn’t) and of telling te girls bad things about the management (in fact I was saying they are one of the better management towards the girls). Everything I said seemed to make it worse and I had to give up. They told me all the girls knew how bad I was and hated me – in fact at least four of them didn’t since I have been contacted by them since.
What astonished me was not that they were annoyed or even that they kicked out one of their highest paying customers – it was that I received a message telling me to go kill myself and then a following three messages that were just expletive filled abuse. In management, the first rule is to be polite and controlled – decisions and communications should never be abusive even if the client is completely wrong.
I am interested in the girls not the management
In my humble opinion, punting is about the service and this depends basically on the workers – the girls (or guys if your taste goes that way) who provide the service. Management should be there to facilitate the meetings and ensure that the girls are safe and they understand what is expected of them so that they can decide if they want a job or not.
Management is not the centre of the world
I feel too often that management thinks it is all about them and assumes a role of traffic officer that regulates the flow of clients – not necessarily to the benefit of the girls or the clients. Moreover, my encounters with management have sometimes shown a rather obvious level of disdain for the clients – and a number of girls I have got to know have told me they get the same disdainful treatment. Perhaps the most noticeable aspect is quite a number of times at different places, the fact that I am paying – and paying well – for a service has been treated as almost an irrelevancy compared to some annoyance that they have recently had e.g. a rude client or an argument with someone.
Why does management not care?
Why is this so? Is it just that the supply-demand equation is so unbalanced (i.e. too many clients vs girls) that management doesn’t need to care what punters want and can expect punters to accept whatever is doled out in order to get access to the girls? Or maybe it is that a section of the punting community is so offensive and aggressive that managements almost defensively assume the worst of all? But for me, a client who is keen to see the girls and will always try to be polite and reasonable with administration and girls, this attitude is a frustration.
Maybe I am unrealistic
Maybe I am unimportant. However, alleged this is a service industry and making the client feel at least relevant to the process is, to my mind, an important part of the whole. It made me wonder about the management quality across the Sydney scene – and realise that there is (with some notable exceptions) an attitude that the client is less important.
Curious to hear other punters’ views and also to hear of good experiences – I would love to be proved wrong. I am still looking for that place convenient to the city where I, a middle aged Westerner, can go two or three times a week – my budget is quite substantial – especially since my regular private service girl has just got a straight job. Replies or messages are welcome on this topic. Thanks,
F.
I have three examples that particularly made me wonder if I am missing the point completely. I am not trying to pick fights and so I am not going to identify the places - but these events are what has made me wonder about management and write this post.
Example 1: Complete non-service
I went to a full service place recently – in fact, I had been thinking of making it my regular place and had had three sessions there over a two week period – all quite good and while none was a compelling revisit, all the girls did more than the minimum expected and I would see them again.
The last time was, however, very unsatisfactory. The girl was pleasant and good-looking and so I was positive. Unlike the other girls who showered with me, she sent me to the shower on my own and then showered herself. When she came back, she let me hug her briefly before lying on the bed and letting me kiss her nipples and then she cautiously opened her legs and let me give her DATY until she came (or maybe pretended to cum),
Then she seemed to think the sexual part of the session was effectively over – there was no attempt to satisfy me. She kept her hands on her body, covering her pussy area. She didn’t even ask what I wanted and I would have to have demanded. She talked in a friendly manner but was totally uninterested in doing anything that might please me. I know I could have told her what I wanted but by the time I demanded, the fun would have gone out of it. I looked at the clock to see how much time left in the session – about 25 minutes – and she said “Do you have to go back to work now?”
For a one hour session costing over $300, I was amazed she could think that she had done enough but I wasn’t going to force her and so I went had a shower. When I came back, she said she was going to have a shower and I could leave when I had dressed.
This girl had been advertised as providing good service including BBBJ, cim and cof but for the $300+, I got no attempt to satisfy me. I sent a message to the reception, that it had been an unsatisfactory session. The first response was “sorry – I will talk to the girl and then our manager.” (A good response.)
Later I was told that the girl had thought the session was fine and she had found me pleasant but maybe she needed more training. Then there was an implication that they might sack her. I don’t like getting girls sacked and so I suggested she be given another chance but also since I worried that maybe it was something wrong with me, I offered that if I wasn’t welcome, I could go away – I had hoped they would say the usual “no, you are welcome to come again” but instead I got the response “Okay we will (keep her). Hope u have a good life even if it was too short. Enjoy it, Lol.” – very cryptic but I wondered if was a way of saying “drop dead soon”.
I tried to contact the manager for clarification but got no response – so I have given up on the place – a pity since it has some good girls.
I probably should have insisted more with the girl and not asked if I was welcome or not but I wonder a bit about management being not even slightly interested in keeping a paying client who was shown not to bully the girls and was trying to be reasonable.
Complete disregard
Before this, I was at an R&T place a few months back. Clearly it was pretty busy and the receptionist (and possibly owner) decided to give me the massage herself. About 10 minutes into the session, an argument erupted outside and she went out and joined in. I was left naked on the table unattended for about 30 minutes – the fight kept on – and finally the manager came in and told me someone else would finish off – I received a very perfunctory service from a girl who seemed to have no clue.
I am quite philosophic – these things happen – and so just as in the first case, I didn’t want to make too much of it.
However, when I left, the receptionist collared me – not to apologise but to tell me about the argument and ask me what she should do – I was underwhelmed: as a paying client, I thought some form of apology should be forthcoming before anything else – I made some minor suggestions and headed off.
Why did the receptionist think my service so unimportant that she could just disregard my session and think I should be focused on her problems?
Too Much Emotion
The third example is more ambiguous and I had a few serious lapses of judgement but nothing I believe that was very grevious. I had got to know the management reasonably well – I was a regular but I stupidly sent a message to them that should have gone to another competing shop. I am amazed at my own stupidity but I was quite upset at the time since I had been told something that made me feel I was being treated like a fool and made it clear I was upset.
Suffice it to say I was accused of trying to make trouble (I Wasn’t) and of telling te girls bad things about the management (in fact I was saying they are one of the better management towards the girls). Everything I said seemed to make it worse and I had to give up. They told me all the girls knew how bad I was and hated me – in fact at least four of them didn’t since I have been contacted by them since.
What astonished me was not that they were annoyed or even that they kicked out one of their highest paying customers – it was that I received a message telling me to go kill myself and then a following three messages that were just expletive filled abuse. In management, the first rule is to be polite and controlled – decisions and communications should never be abusive even if the client is completely wrong.
I am interested in the girls not the management
In my humble opinion, punting is about the service and this depends basically on the workers – the girls (or guys if your taste goes that way) who provide the service. Management should be there to facilitate the meetings and ensure that the girls are safe and they understand what is expected of them so that they can decide if they want a job or not.
Management is not the centre of the world
I feel too often that management thinks it is all about them and assumes a role of traffic officer that regulates the flow of clients – not necessarily to the benefit of the girls or the clients. Moreover, my encounters with management have sometimes shown a rather obvious level of disdain for the clients – and a number of girls I have got to know have told me they get the same disdainful treatment. Perhaps the most noticeable aspect is quite a number of times at different places, the fact that I am paying – and paying well – for a service has been treated as almost an irrelevancy compared to some annoyance that they have recently had e.g. a rude client or an argument with someone.
Why does management not care?
Why is this so? Is it just that the supply-demand equation is so unbalanced (i.e. too many clients vs girls) that management doesn’t need to care what punters want and can expect punters to accept whatever is doled out in order to get access to the girls? Or maybe it is that a section of the punting community is so offensive and aggressive that managements almost defensively assume the worst of all? But for me, a client who is keen to see the girls and will always try to be polite and reasonable with administration and girls, this attitude is a frustration.
Maybe I am unrealistic
Maybe I am unimportant. However, alleged this is a service industry and making the client feel at least relevant to the process is, to my mind, an important part of the whole. It made me wonder about the management quality across the Sydney scene – and realise that there is (with some notable exceptions) an attitude that the client is less important.
Curious to hear other punters’ views and also to hear of good experiences – I would love to be proved wrong. I am still looking for that place convenient to the city where I, a middle aged Westerner, can go two or three times a week – my budget is quite substantial – especially since my regular private service girl has just got a straight job. Replies or messages are welcome on this topic. Thanks,
F.