What is your preference? Experience or Looks?

[cmk76]

This has probably been asked a million times, but this is just for my own curiosity and research. Given the choice, which type of working lass would you prefer?
(Nb. This is only what my personal distinctions of the two are, so forum opinions will vary)

1. A lass who is, customer orientated and offers every conceivable extra under the sun, such as;
-DFK, PSE, GFE, BBBJ, DTBBBJ, Anal, 69, DATY, CIM, COF, COT, COB, COA, Fisting, professional massage and/or every sexual position you can think off!
However, the lass possess a majority of these physical/non-physical attributes such as;

-average face
-smallish lips
-overly slim
-slightly overweight
-undesirable breasts (your least preferred size)
-hairy, unkempt pubic hair
-slight breath issues
-stained, imperfect teeth
-slight blemish and/or acne
-unmanicured nails/toes
-flat posterior
-excess tummy folds/baby fat
-untoned body (legs, arms, torso)
-blemished skin tone

Or,

2. A lass who is 'work' orientated, offers limited or no extras, limited or no touching, limited or no kissing, below average massage, provides only; CBJ, and all major sexual (intercourse) position possible.

However, the lass possess a majority of these physical/non-physcal attributes such as;
-near perfect, magazine model face
-luscious, full lips
-slim but curvy
-bountiful breasts (your most preferred size)
-neatly trimmed and/or waxed/shaven pubic hair
-no breath issues
-white, perfect teeth
-no blemish and/or acne
-manicured nails/toes
-curvy, firm posterior
-no tummy folds/baby fat
-toned body (legs, arms, torso)
-perfect smooth skin tone

So, gents, what are your usual punts?

[mattemeiser]

From your above descriptions, girl # 2 doesn't quite fit the description as she would not be 'work oriented' if completed a shit massage (in terms of a ml) & is a princess that shouldn't work in a semi-legit massage shop.

When describing the same features of girl # 2 for a wl, if she's good at the sexual positions that she does do & her work ethics are top-notch, then I would disregard some limitations. If she was a star fish in all of her positions, then I would find her images from the shop's website & wank at home. Or recommend that she gets into glamour modeling. I think that girl # 2 will compare herself to the other girls working at the shop & see that their purses are filled with more $50 notes and if she is switched on either ask them or work out for herself that with greater extras comes greater tips.


From the description below of her attributes, then it would be fair to say that girl # 1 would be a older Western woman that is relying on her tried & tested skills and has left herself go a little bit. Cause not many or any of the lovely young ladies from the main source countries that wl's / ml's come from (Japan, China, Korea, Thailand) would fit that description or allow themselves to look like that. (The young ones anyways).
I've heard stories of friends that have been to the above stated countries and saying that all the local women there are immaculately kept and quite fashionable. Even the ugly ones still keep themselves maintained to a certain acceptable level. If only it was the same here in Syd in terms of the local stock-standard cauc women.

In terms of girl # 1, I would choose to see her primarily for her massage skills, maybe even forgoing the hj for extended massage time.
A lot of her physical flaws or imperfections can be addressed through tactful recommendations: i.e. ensure wash before work, go for a girl's day out to the salon & always carry mints with you. Especially when you're at work in her chosen profession. One packet of mints, a few dollars... That is a legitimate expense to incur to ensure that you receive a $20 or $50 tips for services rendered. Bad breath is a huge turn-off.

Even if girl 1 had the physical attributes of girl 2 and her breath stank like death, I'd tell her to stop, reach for a mint and all would be well and she can then begin to suck my penis.

Girl one I would not want to fuck at all. Even if she was working at a really cheap full service shop. If I'm gonna pay to fuck someone, I would want her to look similar to girl # 2. Girl # 1 most bros here could pick-up from a club or whatever & fuck her for free. We should be outlining our fees throughout the interaction with her, not the other way around.

-Matt-

[Sextus]

cmk, I love that term "lass." It is so pretty. I like the look and sound of some words, and the images they create. It why I was recently sighing over the name "Toshika" at Ginza. (boo hoo, since elevated to the new, more costly, gold class.) No matter the language, all over the world, feminine names so often have a musicality to them, and they are the first step on our path of sighing vulnerability to these sweet lasses. :red_heart:

The aesthetics of a girl do matter alot to me, because I am very visually oriented. For the same reason I keep myself in good shape so that the sight in the mirror of my tongue drooling mating activity also doesn't disturb my senses!

Your first description has a rather wicked roll call of things that would put me off. The aesthetics of not just tit size but tit shape is really important to me (64 Kitty's breasts are like an artist's drawing). When the removal of clothes has revealed tits that actually put me off for any number of reasons you could name yourself, to maintain enjoyment of the session, I try not to:

a) look at them

b) touch them

or

c) if I do touch them, I touch them without looking.

I am a hopeless case in that regard I'm afraid. Thankfully most men are much less sensitive to this than I am. When I find a girl like Kitty, on the other hand, I sing her beautiful body's praises to the heavens.

Hairy, unkempt pussys? Absolutely no way. And I had my first ever bad breath experience the other week at 533. Thankfully she didn't allow kissing! Oh yeah, and she had a hairy unkempt pussy too.

So to answer the above, I definitely wouldn't want to see a girl like on your first list, would never choose her in the first place, no matter her service level.

Nor would I see one on your second list either, I like sex to have a fair degree of mutual pleasure if possible.

So what do I do you say? I mainly go from photos, and from reviews these days. Formerly, being aesthetically inclined, it was just from photos - before I became aware of this forum.

Ps. (Admin move this to general talk please)

[rooter]

It doesn't always have to be a trade off between looks and service.
We are lucky in Sydney to have a lot of girls who are both very attractive and offer good service - well among Asian WLs anyway, maybe with caucasian WLs the dilemma you pose is more relevant.
A browse though the ARs of girls from bluemoon, TMC, 5 star, Ginza, MOC etc will confirm this.
Anyway if I am forced to make a choice, for me as long as a girl is at least average in looks and in pretty good shape, then the deciding factor is her personality, service, attitude etc. I would definitely prefer her to an absolute beauty with a bad attitude and poor service.

[asiafever]

Hmmm. Interesting question. I had an awesome session with a girl in Melbourne who you would normally pass over. She was a little plump, her pubic hair was natural, or maybe slightly tamed. She'd had a kid so there was a bit of after baby body happening, and she was cuteish without being someone you'd give a second glance on the street, but OH MY GOD did she know how to fuck. My 1 hour turned in to 2 hours, we were both spent and exhausted and she asked if she could see me outside the shop. I was flying out the next day so not to be.
On the other hand I had a session with an ABSOLUTE glamour, I mean moonlights as a model, Lydia at Milsons Point. She was, without doubt, the most stunning girl I have had the pleasure of feeling from the inside, but she just couldn't do it for me. She was gorgeous but you could tell it was just a job and as much as she pretended it came across as false and mechanical.
Of course on rare occasions you come acorss the Shangri-La of punting, the stunningly gorgeous service oriented girl. Jaida from Boardroom Melbourne was that girl. Sth american/asian mix, body that makes grown men cry, awesome in bed and gave a PSE and GFE all in one. One session she pinned me down and slow grinded me from cowgirl, slowly getting faster and faster, matching deep strokes with shallows, while DFKing, and whispering in my ear "Oh god I love fucking with you." before she looked me in the eye and begged me to fuck her. She was tearing the sheets to shreds and when we finished gave me, to this day, the post toe curling spine tingling after sex kiss of my life. That's nearly 10 years ago and I feel it like yesterday. I've searched high and low for a replacement but never found one..

[Thumper]

Looks. I pay to fuck pretty.

[AHLUNGOR]

Looks. I pay to fuck pretty.

Haha, I have to agree with Brother Thumper!! some of your guys are making it too complicated !!

See if I can make a point to make this simple:

1. For FS, definitely look or body, good services will be good, but even if service is bad, I get to fuck her or her big tits anyway, so I'll get what i need, if she is ugly or no tits, well, let's not even go there............lol
2. In a perfect world, I can have Milo, Maya or Rita, everything 5 Star !!

2. For Massage:
2.1 If I have my usual back pain, then I have to go with services = good massage skills, she can be Lara Bingle but if my back is hurting, I much rather want Yuki or Shelley or Coco !!
2.2 If my body is OK, and I am just horny:
2.2a, if total nude and B2B is on offer, I can just tits fuck a busty ML with not much skills and services. she doesn't even have to be good looking, just need to have great tits.
2.2b, if only partial or no nude is available, only HJ on offer, or nude with small tits, so only HJ to enjoy, then I will need a Leng or Yuki with great hands.
2.2c, In a perfect world, I can have Lisa, Cici, Coco, Mimi or Joey then I don't have to sacrifice anything.

Is that simple enough.

Cheers

ps. bottomline, the WL/ML cannot be ugly, otherwise won't even get picked

Just my 2 cents

:smile:

[Eureka]

Is that simple enough.
ps. bottomline, the WL/ML cannot be ugly, otherwise won't even get picked
Just my 2 cents :smile:


I love the simplicity :)
Although I hope it is many many decades away Bro Ahlungor ... I think this quote would be wondeful on your headstone LOL

[asiafever]

Oh yeah she can't be a horrormonkey. If she looks like a bulldog chewing on a wasp I'd rather wank. ..

[Sextus]

Oh yeah she can't be a horrormonkey. If she looks like a bulldog chewing on a wasp I'd rather wank. ..
That's a goodie asiafever, especially with the blown up lips stung by the wasp.

[Sextus]

I love the simplicity :)
Although I hope it is many many decades away Bro Ahlungor ... I think this quote would be wondeful on your headstone LOL

Spike Milligan's headstone says:

"I told you I was sick!"

[the wizard]

Sextus, pls don't tell me your a goon fanatic-

[rooter]

Haha, I have to agree with Brother Thumper!! some of your guys are making it too complicated !!

See if I can make a point to make this simple:

1. For FS, definitely look or body, good services will be good, but even if service is bad, I get to fuck her or her big tits anyway, so I'll get what i need, if she is ugly or no tits, well, let's not even go there............lol
2. In a perfect world, I can have Milo, Maya or Rita, everything 5 Star !!

2. For Massage:
2.1 If I have my usual back pain, then I have to go with services = good massage skills, she can be Lara Bingle but if my back is hurting, I much rather want Yuki or Shelley or Coco !!
2.2 If my body is OK, and I am just horny:
2.2a, if total nude and B2B is on offer, I can just tits fuck a busty ML with not much skills and services. she doesn't even have to be good looking, just need to have great tits.
2.2b, if only partial or no nude is available, only HJ on offer, or nude with small tits, so only HJ to enjoy, then I will need a Leng or Yuki with great hands.
2.2c, In a perfect world, I can have Lisa, Cici, Coco, Mimi or Joey then I don't have to sacrifice anything.

Is that simple enough.

Cheers

ps. bottomline, the WL/ML cannot be ugly, otherwise won't even get picked

Just my 2 cents

:smile:

You say other guys are making it complicated, and then you post what looks like an extract from the Taxation Act ;)
The correct interpretation of Section 2 Subsection 2 clause (a) could go all the way to the High Court ;)

[Licker]

2.2c, In a perfect world, I can have Lisa, Cici, Coco, Mimi or Joey then I don't have to sacrifice anything.


bro Ahlungor, I'm just curious about your perfect world.
Would it be all of those lovely ladies at the same time?

Cheers,
Licker

[cisco]

I spend money for Rule Number 1. Pretty and number 2. Service , these to collide together then it will be Perfect even not really pretty nor ugly but Perfect body and Perfect service still i go for it

[playerz]

Rule of Thumper prevails for me. If you were to get busted in an immigration raid, do you want to be seen with hottest chick or the side-show?

I've got the experience and I'd be happy to doctrine it to the glamour starfish until I at least get a whimper out of her. Most times they eventually come out of their warped attitude to allow themselves to enjoy the moment. That's when you get that "booyah" moment! After this, I don't even need to blow my load as the mental victory is more euphoric for me.

If I want experience I just go drinking at the Establishment.

[MrSeven]

looks are no.1 for me.. why pay for a girl i can pick up whenever i want.
but this rule generally applies.. the hotter they are.. the less quality service.
It's unreal when you find those ones that are both stunners and can deepthroat your dik, fuck the shit out of you, and genuinely or at least look like theyre genuinely enjoying the fuck
those are your keepers.. for them you are their regular

[ethanhunter]

For me, look first, attitude second, skill third

[Littlewonder]

When I was a lot younger than I am now and first started punting I used to go for looks, one day I went with this beautiful girl she was Ausi and from memory about 22 the moment she walked in the room my friend stood to attention she was stunning she took her clothes off and then no kiss no touch no this no that in the end it was the worst punt I ever had so from then on I pick friendly happy relaxed and service forget looks or size of boobs etc go for a girl that likes her job and wants to be with you and get into it and enjoy it.

[cmk76]

Thus far,

mattemeiser-
"If I'm gonna pay to fuck someone, I would want her to look similar to girl # 2."

sextus-
"So to answer the above, I definitely wouldn't want to see a girl like on your first list, would never choose her in the first place, no matter her
service level. Nor would I see one on your second list either, I like sex to have a fair degree of mutual pleasure if possible."

rooter-
"I would definitely prefer her to an absolute beauty with a bad attitude and poor service."

asiafever- ?

Thumper-
"Looks. I pay to fuck pretty."

ahlungor-
"ps. bottomline, the WL/ML cannot be ugly, otherwise won't even get picked"
ahlungor,what about 2.2d?!

cisco-
"I spend money for Rule Number 1. Pretty and number 2. Service , these to collide together then it will be Perfect even not really pretty nor ugly
but Perfect body and Perfect service still i go for it"

playerz-
"I've got the experience and I'd be happy to doctrine it to the glamour starfish until I at least get a whimper out of her."

MrSeven-
"looks are no.1 for me"

ethanhunter-
"For me, look first, attitude second, skill third"

littlewonder-
"I pick friendly happy relaxed and service forget looks or size of boobs etc..."

[jellyshots]

Looks first;that I like; not other people's concept of it. Everything else is trainable. And it's a lot of fun to train the hot ones...

[asiafever]

With me it's all circumstantial.
One question though, are these two girls charging the same rate?

[cmk76]

With me it's all circumstantial.
One question though, are these two girls charging the same rate?

Yes. Both could be from the same shop, or not.

[River]

This has probably been asked a million times, but this is just for my own curiosity and research. Given the choice, which type of working lass would you prefer?
(Nb. This is only what my personal distinctions of the two are, so forum opinions will vary)

1. A lass who is, customer orientated and offers every conceivable extra under the sun, such as;
-DFK, PSE, GFE, BBBJ, DTBBBJ, Anal, 69, DATY, CIM, COF, COT, COB, COA, Fisting, professional massage and/or every sexual position you can think off!
However, the lass possess a majority of these physical/non-physical attributes such as;

-average face
-smallish lips
-overly slim
-slightly overweight
-undesirable breasts (your least preferred size)
-hairy, unkempt pubic hair
-slight breath issues
-stained, imperfect teeth
-slight blemish and/or acne
-unmanicured nails/toes
-flat posterior
-excess tummy folds/baby fat
-untoned body (legs, arms, torso)
-blemished skin tone

Or,

2. A lass who is 'work' orientated, offers limited or no extras, limited or no touching, limited or no kissing, below average massage, provides only; CBJ, and all major sexual (intercourse) position possible.

However, the lass possess a majority of these physical/non-physcal attributes such as;
-near perfect, magazine model face
-luscious, full lips
-slim but curvy
-bountiful breasts (your most preferred size)
-neatly trimmed and/or waxed/shaven pubic hair
-no breath issues
-white, perfect teeth
-no blemish and/or acne
-manicured nails/toes
-curvy, firm posterior
-no tummy folds/baby fat
-toned body (legs, arms, torso)
-perfect smooth skin tone

So, gents, what are your usual punts?

Something in between. Pretty lass with some experience.

[IExperiment]

Looks. I pay to fuck pretty.

Yes I like this one :) stunner for me thanks.

Wrong section though.

[readyfreddy]

Attitude can make a girl seem sexier/prettier than what you might first think from just a photo. Can also make them seem much uglier to.

[carmen farquis]

if the girls hot and shes a dud at least you got to root a hot chick. if shes ugly and heaps into it you still rooted an ugly chick

[Daitowha]

I rate good service higher than looks, but of course not a fat ugly one.

[oinkonk]

Looks and attitude. Experience can be taught....

[wilisno]

Looks and attitude. Experience can be taught....
Exactly ! You can't change look, and although attitude can change overtime, but not within one session. Experience can be taught, and actually fun to teach !