Girl asking me for money

[Milhouse]

Have been "seeing" this girl recently, ABC, and have slept together a few times.

She dropped out of high school and now wants to get into uni, claims she needs to do foundation course for that and cost is about $8-9k. She asked me to "lend" her $5k for the course. I am no expert on this but my light research shows some online universities have courses which don't have any prerequisites and can have government loan you most, if not all, of the costs.

When I suggested this to her she said she already looked into it and can't be done.

Large part of me thinks this is a bit suss. What would you do in my situation? What if you wanted to help the girl?

[Yeezy]

Have been "seeing" this girl recently, ABC, and have slept together a few times.

She dropped out of high school and now wants to get into uni, claims she needs to do foundation course for that and cost is about $8-9k. She asked me to "lend" her $5k for the course. I am no expert on this but my light research shows some online universities have courses which don't have any prerequisites and can have government loan you most, if not all, of the costs.

When I suggested this to her she said she already looked into it and can't be done.

Large part of me thinks this is a bit suss. What would you do in my situation? What if you wanted to help the girl?

If the girl really want to study , she can take that online course , but she said she can finished , so she doesn't want to study , she just need your money brothaaa , take care haha

[rooter]

Run bro, run.
Run fast and don't look back!!!

[Mr Bastard]

Go on, you'd do it for Lisa Simpson?

[dr3w]

How long have you known her? Best to run bro

[Oneonone]

Its $5K today then need more money and so it goes on and on been there done that only one winner and it aint the punter!

Give her a miss and move on!

[RoyalFlush]

This is a 2-part true story that happened to me about friends and money.

7 years ago, I was subletting a property in Perth, netting a passive income of $8000.00 per year + free rent for myself. One of the tenants was a good friend of mine that I met in uni since we were sophomores. I took him in because his elder brother went back to his home country so he was in need of a place to stay. I sublet the biggest room to him for $80.00 per week only all bills inclusive (mate rate). I also introduced a good job to him which he is still working at even today.
And then, just before I came to Sydney, I came into an agreement with him to share the profit 50-50 from the property venture. Because he was short of money, I told him that he can pay his share of the bond money at a later date to me. I will also cover the first month of the rental cost and he can pay me back once he gets the rent money in the first month. At the point of business handover, the property was fully occupied so it was profitable from day 1. It was a risk free, no outlay, huge returns and with minimal efforts business for him. All he needed to do was to advertise for tenants and collect rent on a monthly basis just by knocking on doors. Easy job.
Unfortunately, after I came to Sydney, he did not keep his end of the bargain. Not only he did not pay the 50% profit which we initially agreed upon (not even for 1 month), he reneged on the bond money and furnitures which I had bought. I only managed to recoup back the rent money for the first month after a year, and then after persistent requests, I got the bond money 2 years later.

A separate but somewhat related incident. This timeline happened before I handed the property to my friend.
We had a Korean male tenant who came to live in our house. He had a female Korean friend who came to visit our house frequently and over time, we all became good friends. Later on, this Korean girl became my friend's gf.
Like OP's story, the gf later asked money from him to fund her studies against my advice. At first it was only $8000.00 for 1 semester and then when next semester came, she asked for another $8000.00. She gave excuses that if she cant study she wont be able to prolong her visa to stay in Australia to be with him and money from parents was always coincidentally slow to arrive. Just after a brief period of 1 year courtship, they broke up, and the reason for the split was that her parents did not want her to marry a non-Korean. Money was never returned back.

Despite my somewhat sombre story, I am actually grateful to my friend because I believe I have become wiser with the things of the world. Just like gambling, I am lucky to break my gambling addiction after my lifetime net loss of $10K in the casinos. I believe it is better to fall (Many times even) when you are small so you can learn these experiences inexpensively rather than at a later age.

[Oneonone]

This is a 2-part true story that happened to me about friends and money.

7 years ago, I was subletting a property in Perth, netting a passive income of $8000.00 per year + free rent for myself. One of the tenants was a good friend of mine that I met in uni since we were sophomores. I took him in because his elder brother went back to his home country so he was in need of a place to stay. I sublet the biggest room to him for $80.00 per week only all bills inclusive (mate rate). I also introduced a good job to him which he is still working at even today.
And then, just before I came to Sydney, I came into an agreement with him to share the profit 50-50 from the property venture. Because he was short of money, I told him that he can pay his share of the bond money at a later date to me. I will also cover the first month of the rental cost and he can pay me back once he gets the rent money in the first month. At the point of business handover, the property was fully occupied so it was profitable from day 1. It was a risk free, no outlay, huge returns and with minimal efforts business for him. All he needed to do was to advertise for tenants and collect rent on a monthly basis just by knocking on doors. Easy job.
Unfortunately, after I came to Sydney, he did not keep his end of the bargain. Not only he did not pay the 50% profit which we initially agreed upon (not even for 1 month), he reneged on the bond money and furnitures which I had bought. I only managed to recoup back the rent money for the first month after a year, and then after persistent requests, I got the bond money 2 years later.

A separate but somewhat related incident. This timeline happened before I handed the property to my friend.
We had a Korean male tenant who came to live in our house. He had a female Korean friend who came to visit our house frequently and over time, we all became good friends. Later on, this Korean girl became my friend's gf.
Like OP's story, the gf later asked money from him to fund her studies against my advice. At first it was only $8000.00 for 1 semester and then when next semester came, she asked for another $8000.00. She gave excuses that if she cant study she wont be able to prolong her visa to stay in Australia to be with him and money from parents was always coincidentally slow to arrive. Just after a brief period of 1 year courtship, they broke up, and the reason for the split was that her parents did not want her to marry a non-Korean. Money was never returned back.

Despite my somewhat sombre story, I am actually grateful to my friend because I believe I have become wiser with the things of the world. Just like gambling, I am lucky to break my gambling addiction after my lifetime net loss of $10K in the casinos. I believe it is better to fall (Many time) when you are small so you can learn these experiences inexpensively rather than at a later age.

I can relate to the second part of the story I helped a wl out with school fees then next term she want more she was a wl all she had to do was put something aside each week she knew that the fee would be due.

[cisco]

Money is sensitive , just deleted her number and say i ain't rich man :) , better that 5000 you used to enjoy your life rather then stick on one girl ;)

[illidanstormrage]

This is a straight up fleecing, it looks like she has you pegged as the "provider". I would try and shake that frame immediately but at the end of the day you shouldn't be afraid to lose her.

[Fisher]

It will only end in tears and they will be yours.
Flick her to the side and move on.l

[Azzkikr]

If you only know her recently then it sounds like she is only going to use you and then dump you when she is done and you won't see that money back I guarantee it. I say run while you still can and don't look back.

[max_power]

Sack her. She's gold digging you.

[cisco]

Some scenario out there is she made u love her and once she knew you loved her so much and she start to suck you in , wear the Adidas shoes and Run bra :)

[RoyalFlush]

wear the adidas shoes, hail a cab, pay $100 and let the driver drive as fast as possible bra

[Milhouse]

thanks everyone for your sage advice.

I was meant to see her tonight but made up an excuse to cancel.

Good point about how this probably won't be the only time she asks, as she did say foundation involves two semesters.

[Milhouse]

also what is odd is that I offered to pay her rent ($150/week) and her response was "pfff, what is $150 per week?"

Seems very condescending coming from someone without stable employment.

[gentlescream]

Good work. This topic has come up in the past - my own opinion was and is, that keep it a business relationship - be it that she provides you with collateral, freebies or what not, even money is ever going to exchange.

[illidanstormrage]

also what is odd is that I offered to pay her rent ($150/week) and her response was "pfff, what is $150 per week?"

Seems very condescending coming from someone without stable employment.
Gold digger confirmed..

I think you are making it harder for yourself if you always bring up money with girls from the get go. They will just think of you as a provider (boyfriend) and will sleep with you on that basis. Opposed to building a solid emotional connection where you are just the cool guy and sex naturally happens. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between validational and transactional sex because they both feel so good.. but there is a big difference. One she is sleeping with you out of primal desire which she has decided to act upon and the other is you have outright paid the girl for sexual services.

There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so. Still I think most guys would rather be having validational sex over transactional but I might be wrong.


"I make you feel good, you make me feel good - now what the hell more do you want from a guy?" -Nick Nolte 48 hours

[CunningLinguist]

You sound like good guy greg to me...

[dr3w]

You sound like good guy greg to me...

what happened to him?

[AHLUNGOR]

also what is odd is that I offered to pay her rent ($150/week) and her response was "pfff, what is $150 per week?"

Seems very condescending coming from someone without stable employment.

Hi brother Milhouse,

I have a couple of questions :

1. Is she a working girl?
2. Did you meet her in a shop ?
3. If not , has she got any employment !
4. Her parents in Aust ?
5. You said she was ABC ?
6. Did she finish high school in Aust?

And finally, any Australian student can apply for HECS - which is an interest free loan from the government for higher educations , I think it's fair for her to ask for help for rent money or living expenses but not on school fees , unless she is not an Aussie !

[AHLUNGOR]

Brother Milhouse,


On second thought, if you have the money and she is young and hot, this may not be a total lost !!

Depending on your situation and whether she is genuine (as in wanting to study) !! this could be a workable sugar daddy arrangement, so I don't think everyone should just jump in and said RUN RUN RUN !

$8,000 may be a lot money to most of us, but if you can afford this, then only you will know the value ................

[DrFeelGood]

Ha! I was about to say te same thing. If she's hot enough, and a good root, I'd make the most of it too. If she asks for more only then would in run to the hills

Brother Milhouse,


On second thought, if you have the money and she is young and hot, this may not be a total lost !!

Depending on your situation and whether she is genuine (as in wanting to study) !! this could be a workable sugar daddy arrangement, so I don't think everyone should just jump in and said RUN RUN RUN !

$8,000 may be a lot money to most of us, but if you can afford this, then only you will know the value ................

[CunningLinguist]

what happened to him?

He got banned, not sure why ...

[x11]

Hi brother Milhouse,

I have a couple of questions :

1. Is she a working girl?
2. Did you meet her in a shop ?
3. If not , has she got any employment !
4. Her parents in Aust ?
5. You said she was ABC ?
6. Did she finish high school in Aust?

And finally, any Australian student can apply for HECS - which is an interest free loan from the government for higher educations , I think it's fair for her to ask for help for rent money or living expenses but not on school fees , unless she is not an Aussie !

Might be a private college of some sort so hecs may not apply.

[AHLUNGOR]

Might be a private college of some sort so hecs may not apply.


Shouldn't be a private college as those will be a lot more, like $20K-$25K.

$8,000 sounds about right as I have heard that similar amount from a few students !

[Milhouse]

Its $5K today then need more money and so it goes on and on been there done that only one winner and it aint the punter!

Give her a miss and move on!

Ok boys, an update. I ended up "lending" her that $5000, as I felt partly sorry for her situation. I had a suspicion it wasn't for her studies, but I could see she was in dire financial situation. Anyway, we continued dating and I'd sleep over at her place at times, then one day she asked me for $3000 more for her studies (remember the initial cost was $8700).

At first I said now wasn't a good time etc but she could tell I was making up excuses. She started hinting at me that she needed the money, and finally I said ok I'd help her out but to show trust, I wanted her to send me back my $5000 and if she did then I'd send her $8000 in total. She said ok at first, but then later on said she was afraid I was lying (fuck me if this is how women reason, because I had already sent her the $5000). I then offered to pay the uni direct and she said ok.

She shows me a screen shot of an email containing an offer of a place in SIBT, but it looks like it's dated August 2014. I looked up the SIBT website and there have been three sessions since August 2014.

I asked her for SIBT's bank account details, and she sent me a screen shot of an email (no date or sender details) from some sort of agent with the bank details. These matched the account details on SIBT's website. When I was confirming I'd send $3000 to them and she'd send the rest, she asked me to wait till the next day. The next day she sends me another screen shot of a similar email, but this time it is just the body of an email, like no subject title or anything. The text in the body of the email is the same but the account details have changed. I googled these and nothing came up. I asked her why the account details were different and she said she didn't know, the agent just gave them to her (they're not her bank account details either, as I have them...or at least one of her bank accounts anyway).

I pretended to say that it could be a scam, and so asked her to give me the agent's email address so I could look into it. She said something like "why do you care, it's my money anyway". When I asked again for the agent's email, she just said "you search for it". When I asked how, she said she didn't know. She also didn't know the agent's name but just said he was a bald guy.

So we got into an argument over text about it. She told me she had lent out about $100k to people and that she'd pay me back when people paid her back. She showed me two contracts for sale of land to prove she owned two properties (not dated, and don't actually prove ownership - could've sold it since) and that she could afford to pay me back.

I gave it to her blunt - I said this was her chance to tell me the truth, and I'd forget anything about SIBT if she came clean. She insisted that the money was for SIBT, but also she might use it for something to do with her properties. I asked her when SIBT starts, and she said this month. I checked the website and it had actually started on Monday already. I told her this and she said she doesn't know because she can't afford it.

Also, there was one long weekend when she disappeared to Melbourne. When I asked her why she went, she just said "business".

She works part time as a casino dealer, she tells me in the VIP floor, and that sometimes afterwards she has to go to dinner with customers. I think this is BS because I can't see the casino allowing this type of shit.

So, what do you guys think?

[Oneonone]

Cut your losses and give her a miss bro she is nothing but heart break material!

[beta101]

what oneone said n cum in her 25 times to recover ur investment anything after is pure profit :p

[henry]

Mate, I think you are trying to convince yourself that you haven't been taken for a ride. $8000 is a lot of cash to hand over to someone who you have fucked a couple of times. Should have just asked for her uni invoice first but you were clearly just thinking with your dick. We all do it sadly.

[tales88]

Just keep fucking her and tell her you will send her the money the next day, or tell her you transferred it and it takes a few days. Then say you entered on digit wrong and you have to wait for the bank to return the money to you. Keep drawing it out, but keep fucking her on the side.

[cisco]

What a girl ... Bad bad girl

[harmony]

In my experience with loaning money, only loan to someone who earns more than you !!!

I loaned a close friend $1000, and his annual wage was around $200 000

He was having some cashflow problems and I helped him out

He did pay me back after 3-6 months, thankfully !!

Paying girlfriends or friends otherwise ?

My humble advice: put it off as long as possible. You will soon learn if this person is a friend, or just using you

Lets face it, if a person wants money from you, and you cant guarantee this person will even be in your life in 1 years time - that loan is a very insecure one indeed !

Because lets face it, who is going to pay you back $8000 quickly ?? No one. Maybe repaying you in $1000-2000 installments is more realistic.

I would only loan my girlfriend $1000+ if I was going to marry her

But $8000 ? No friend borrows that amount from someone else, particularly if their income is pretty low

Just a quick way for you to kiss $8000 goodbye.

[f00b]

Ok boys, an update. I ended up "lending" her that $5000, as I felt partly sorry for her situation. I had a suspicion it wasn't for her studies, but I could see she was in dire financial situation. Anyway, we continued dating and I'd sleep over at her place at times, then one day she asked me for $3000 more for her studies (remember the initial cost was $8700).

At first I said now wasn't a good time etc but she could tell I was making up excuses. She started hinting at me that she needed the money, and finally I said ok I'd help her out but to show trust, I wanted her to send me back my $5000 and if she did then I'd send her $8000 in total. She said ok at first, but then later on said she was afraid I was lying (fuck me if this is how women reason, because I had already sent her the $5000). I then offered to pay the uni direct and she said ok.

She shows me a screen shot of an email containing an offer of a place in SIBT, but it looks like it's dated August 2014. I looked up the SIBT website and there have been three sessions since August 2014.

I asked her for SIBT's bank account details, and she sent me a screen shot of an email (no date or sender details) from some sort of agent with the bank details. These matched the account details on SIBT's website. When I was confirming I'd send $3000 to them and she'd send the rest, she asked me to wait till the next day. The next day she sends me another screen shot of a similar email, but this time it is just the body of an email, like no subject title or anything. The text in the body of the email is the same but the account details have changed. I googled these and nothing came up. I asked her why the account details were different and she said she didn't know, the agent just gave them to her (they're not her bank account details either, as I have them...or at least one of her bank accounts anyway).

I pretended to say that it could be a scam, and so asked her to give me the agent's email address so I could look into it. She said something like "why do you care, it's my money anyway". When I asked again for the agent's email, she just said "you search for it". When I asked how, she said she didn't know. She also didn't know the agent's name but just said he was a bald guy.

So we got into an argument over text about it. She told me she had lent out about $100k to people and that she'd pay me back when people paid her back. She showed me two contracts for sale of land to prove she owned two properties (not dated, and don't actually prove ownership - could've sold it since) and that she could afford to pay me back.

I gave it to her blunt - I said this was her chance to tell me the truth, and I'd forget anything about SIBT if she came clean. She insisted that the money was for SIBT, but also she might use it for something to do with her properties. I asked her when SIBT starts, and she said this month. I checked the website and it had actually started on Monday already. I told her this and she said she doesn't know because she can't afford it.

Also, there was one long weekend when she disappeared to Melbourne. When I asked her why she went, she just said "business".

She works part time as a casino dealer, she tells me in the VIP floor, and that sometimes afterwards she has to go to dinner with customers. I think this is BS because I can't see the casino allowing this type of shit.

So, what do you guys think?

So many red flags it's like the May Day parade in Tienanmen Square. So many alarms it's like the last few moments on the Titanic.

If you're honest about your need for money, you'll give whatever proof you need to assure the person what it's for. Sounds like she has a gambling or other vice on the side that she's trying to finance. No-one puts in this much effort to run a scam unless she's got unscrupulous needs for it. If it was honest, she'd have given you all the information that you've reasonably asked for.

Eject bro.

f.

[AHLUNGOR]

In my experience with loaning money, only loan to someone who earns more than you !!!

I loaned a close friend $1000, and his annual wage was around $200 000

He was having some cashflow problems and I helped him out

He did pay me back after 3-6 months, thankfully !!

Paying girlfriends or friends otherwise ?

My humble advice: put it off as long as possible. You will soon learn if this person is a friend, or just using you

Lets face it, if a person wants money from you, and you cant guarantee this person will even be in your life in 1 years time - that loan is a very insecure one indeed !

Because lets face it, who is going to pay you back $8000 quickly ?? No one. Maybe repaying you in $1000-2000 installments is more realistic.

I would only loan my girlfriend $1000+ if I was going to marry her

But $8000 ? No friend borrows that amount from someone else, particularly if their income is pretty low

Just a quick way for you to kiss $8000 goodbye.



Brother Harmony,


You will be very surprised there are some WLs/MLs consistently tried to get money out from their regulars. That could be either through a sugar daddy arrangement or targeting young and single punter. And that usually happened after once or twice passionate session outside of the shop where NO money was exchanged, so the punter is hooked thinking he is on to a good thing !!

Having said that, the great majority of the MLs that I know of are hard working, honest ladies who are in this industry to making a living, either supporting her own studies or supporting her family back home. and if they want more money, they are more likely to hard more and work harder rather than asking or scamming !

Just my two cents

Cheers

:smile:

[CunningLinguist]

Is Milhouse:
A - Thinking with his dick
B - Taking the piss
C - Stupid

[wilisno]

D - All of the above
Not really ! Instead, he thinks you're all stupid ! ;) ;) ;)

He's been writing similar fictional stories from the old forum, starting as Project_Manager006 !

[cisco]

Not really ! Instead, he thinks you're all stupid ! ;) ;) ;)

He's been writing similar fictional stories from the old forum, starting as Project_Manager006 !

Wow .... The story goes to part 2 :)

[tales88]

I have to admit, its a bit of fun reading..:smile: