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Sticky Date
20-07-2015, 11:22 PM
We all have opinions…. Just like we have assholes. We’d be fucked without them, but our own isn’t the slightest use to anyone else. Yet, we like to air them like they are god’s gift through ourself, to all of humanity! And…. most of us are guilty of confusing our opinions with facts.

Are you curious about how future generations will look back at us Australians in 2015? …. And the “facts” we “knew” then?

What will they see as naïve, barbaric, unenlightened, arrogant, conceited or pigheaded, as we now view slavery, killing native Australian humans, burning witches at the stake, earth being flat and at the centre of the universe, and women and black skinned people as inferia and the Japanese race as evil (as widely believed in the leadup and during WW2)?

Most of us do actually believe that what is commonly accepted as “fact” today, not just by you, but widely held as fact, not mere opinion, is not only a fact today, but is an eternal fact … most of us believe that all of today’s “facts” are set in stone…. We must therefore believe society has recently begun an era of special enlightment…… humanities first period of enlightenment, unlike historically when

1) the earth being flat was “fact”,

2) the widely accepted medical “fact” of less than 200 years ago, that women who stood up to their husbands were suffering from a medical condition known as “hysteria”, which was caused by their “wandering womb”. This was widely accepted medical “fact”.

3) Homosexuals were “mentally ill” until the 1970’s…. historical documented fact. It was official, in the mental illness bible, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, and generally accepted in wider society also as “fact”.

4) People could not fly in aircraft. That was considered “fact”. The New York Herald on Feb 10th 1906 more than two years after Orville Wright first controlled flight, published, “The Wrights have flown or they have not flown. They possess a machine or they do not possess one. They are in fact either fliers or liars. It is difficult to fly. It's easy to say, 'We have flown.'”

So, history it seems is littered with examples of facts, which in the fullness of time, with evidence not necessarily even being added, but the same evidence just being looked at differently, causing a “fact” to transform into “not a fact” …. Or perhaps become just “temporary outdated facts”, rather than “eternal facts” which are set in stone. That reminds me of John Howard’s election promises and the ones that could be broken because they were, “non-core” promises… lolol.

I wonder if there is anyone else out there who suspects that some things we “know” to be true, may just possibly, turn out to not be?

I wonder if there is any curiosity about that possibility…. Or some might say, inevitability (unless we are the first society in human history to not be wrong about anything) …..then

Is it of any interest to wonder what specifically we, as a society “know” today, that future generations will view with a bewildered head shake and think, “Thank Christ, we have evolved onwards from those primitive assholes of 2015”.

Anyone have any suspicions?
What generally accepted today, will become viewed as primitive? Not putting boat people in prison in PNG…. That’s already viewed today as barbaric by most people, except the leadership, of the major political parties. And not, the absence of euthanasia laws, like in Switzerland either….. the absence of those laws here is already viewed as archaic by over 80% of Australians.

What is believed widely in the population, that future generations will shake their head at….. or be bloody thankful that they are more enlightened or highly evolved ?

Spe
20-07-2015, 11:51 PM
In line with the earth is flat theory... I think many people now in this time and day, still has the wrong impression that the Sun rises from the East and sets in the west. In fact the sun is not moving, but earth is revolving round the sun. Ask around and see if people around you can explain how it works. Most people will give a blank stare.

Also... Another fact that might not last long is that our DNA is unique... Probably not in 50 years time when I have my own clone...

Max Impact
21-07-2015, 12:17 AM
A message about assholes by Sticky Date. Classic!!

cleetusvandamme
21-07-2015, 03:48 AM
In line with the earth is flat theory... I think many people now in this time and day, still has the wrong impression that the Sun rises from the East and sets in the west. In fact the sun is not moving, but earth is revolving round the sun. Ask around and see if people around you can explain how it works. Most people will give a blank stare.

Also... Another fact that might not last long is that our DNA is unique... Probably not in 50 years time when I have my own clone...

Sunrise and sunset is caused by the earth rotating on it's own axis once over 24 hours. It takes a year for the earth to orbit the sun.

I recently discovered we all have two sphincters so the old saying about opinions rings truer than ever!

Sticky Date
21-07-2015, 12:30 PM
This myth is a relatively new one. It's only entered society about 30 years ago. How long will it stay with us before we return to the truth?

This "current day myth" is well and truly busted right now.... but it will remain an unbusted myth for most people for a while yet.

How long it remains an unbusted myth, before being transformed into a"busted myth", doesn't depend on scientific evidence, which exists now. It depends on you, me and others having the time to think and become informed. Just as we could have been Galileo's neighbour and either looked at his evidence and digested it, updating our world view, or we could have ignored it and waited for another 80 years after his death until the Catholic Church finally accepted what he said, and could have allowed the Church's acceptance to trigger our own mind's acceptance. One way we control our own mind and we become another person helping to shape the future, the other way we allow our mind to be controlled by the powers of the day.

The question: Slip slop slap reduces cancer risk or increases cancer risk?

No one advocates getting sunburned.... however moderate amounts of sun exposure has historically been advocated (until the last 30 years) .... even by health practitioners who used to advice people to get out into the sun.... especially to cure rickets.... but also for general health and well being and to enable the necessary production of Vitamin D.

By following the slip slop slap advice we run the real risk of becoming Vitamin D deficient .... INCREASING our chances of all sorts of diseases including internal cancers particularly prostate, colon and breast cancer rates to SKYROCKET.

Michael F. Holick who has spent an entire career at a major university in the field of Vitamin D, sunlight and dermatology, and written the book ,' The UV Advantage", claims that

for every 1 life saved from excessive sun exposure, 50 lives are lost due to insufficient sun exposure.

Vitamin D deficiency induces internal cancers particularly prostate, colon, and breast cancer

and we do have an epidemic of these. One hundred years ago cancer was causing 1 death in 20. In Australia in 2012 about 150,000 people died. About 45,000 of these were from cancer.... nearly 1 in 3! And it isn't because people are living older. Most cancer deaths are not in the elderly. Huge numbers of middle age cancer victims struck down decades earlier than a normal life expectancy.

We should also remember that melanoma while very deadly, is also relatively rare and not a big risk, and also the role of excessive sun exposure is not critical in developing melanoma, while in the case of skin cancer, while being much more common and definitely related to excessive sun exposure, is rarely fatal and is easily detectable and treatable at one of the 5,000,000 skin cancer clinics in your neighbourhood....which are doing a thriving trade which is pretty good for an industry where no suburban clinics existed a generation ago.

So rather than slip slop slap and increase your chances of getting cancer by about 50 times according to Hollick's analysis, it seems our health and well being would be much better served by sensibly avoiding excessive sun and enjoying moderate amounts of sunlight, and using shade and clothing rather than screens containing aluminium and other carcinogens.

Hollick says that to advice people to avoid the sun as SLIP SLOP SLAP does, is akin to advising people to not exercise, because some people overdo exercise with unfortunate consequences. Our bodies need moderate sunlight as much as we need moderate amounts of exercise.

Hollick even has a graph breaking up the USA into 3 areas according to the amount of the sunlight received, and showing how the areas with less sunlight, have higher rates of cancer. Florida, the South, Southern California have lower rates of cancer. The Northeast has the highest rates of cancer and the middle has the middle rates of cancer.

There is one example.

Another one....

Cancer is best treated with chemo, radiation, surgery. Vast numbers of doctors, researchers and survivors are all over youtube and written hundreds of books about alternative treatments that they claim to be more effective, safer and cheaper than the three orthodox treatments. But if you ask the medical establishment, you get an answer along the lines that you might get from a taxi company when asked for an opinion on UBER.

Are they just protecting they own turf and perpetuating a myth? Or does Cannabis Oil and many other treatments work very well for treating cancer?

Sticky Date
21-07-2015, 01:02 PM
Widely believed today to be a myth. Is it real or mythical? What will the future generations say about us today?

Rupert Sheldrake ( www.sheldrake.org) is a British research scientist / biologist with shitloads of peer reviewed papers and books to his name... high profile on youtube.

On his website he has a long running experiment with telepathy which you can participate in if you wish.

It seems to demonstrate that people unconsciously telepathically transmit to other people, when there is an emotional connection between them, and irrespective of geographical separation.

His experiment goes like this.

You supply 4 names and phone numbers of friends of yours. One is then randomly selected, contacted and asked to phone you. You have to guess which of the 4 people is calling you. You should, be correct 25% of the time. And when the people selected are not emotionally close, that is the result.... 25% correct guessing.

However, when there is an emotional connection, the rate of correct guessing is far higher.... just under 50%.... which statistically, given the numbers involved, absolutely can not be due to chance. This holds true whether the friend / relative is calling from the same city or from the opposite side of the planet.

Sheldrake believes this is evidence that our minds transmit our intention, in this case to phone our friend, and this intention is received telepathically, prior to the phone call being received and the identification confirmed.

So it seems that our minds, like transmitters of radio waves, television, mobile phones, magnets...... all transmit beyond the device itself. If you find Sheldrake's evidence convincing, then it is probably a matter of time, until many more people learn to use telepathy in a more normal / reliable way.

He has also done heaps of research on dogs "knowing when their owners are coming home". Again research rules out the possibility of incredible hearing or sense of smell and seems to show that dogs and cats often receive unconscious telepathic communication from their owners.