Fair price for FS at RNT?

[H3da]

Paid for one hour which was $70 and $50 tip upfront. She was quite attractive so I asked her if she would do FS half way through and she just smiled. I didn't know how much I should offer as previously another ML charged me $70 for BBBJ/CIM. I offered $100 for FS with condom and she said ok. She allowed kissing but no fingering. So I basically paid $220 for the hour. Is that a fair price or should I have negotiated better?

[aussiegaigin]

$70 for the massage is a bit over the mark to start with, $60 is still the norm with a few shops stretching to $65 lately (still a few $55 shops around).

$50 for NHJ is normal, but you shouldn't be offering more than another $50 for FS; some will do it for as little as $20. Of course the girl will accept $100 if you offer, but this then encourages her to raise the bar for the next guys.

[leggedon]

Paid for one hour which was $70 and $50 tip upfront. She was quite attractive so I asked her if she would do FS half way through and she just smiled. I didn't know how much I should offer as previously another ML charged me $70 for BBBJ/CIM. I offered $100 for FS with condom and she said ok. She allowed kissing but no fingering. So I basically paid $220 for the hour. Is that a fair price or should I have negotiated better?

If you can turn her on the ml sometimes offers fs for no extra charge.
Then again why would you want to fs a ml who didn't shower after her last punter or shower before you.
Just go to a fs shop!
You'll save a lot of $$ and enjoy your fs with a cleaner, fresher wl.

[AHLUNGOR]

Always better value and a sure thing to get BBBJ or FS in a FS shop ! Not to mention the better facilities !

But then again , the idea to be able to have sex with a massage girl who doesn't get fucked by every customer walking through the door could well worth the extras you paid , was that not the very reasons why so many people are seeking more in RnT shops ?? Then of course the convenient ! I think RnT shops are pretty much in most suburbs and street corners these days and out numbered FS shops by a lot !!

Each to his own !

[H3da]

I like a good massage and potentially a root if I can. It's my first time seeing the girl and never asked a girl if they are willing to do FS so had no idea what to offer. Not many FS can do good massages. I like the fact that it's unlikely the ML has been fucked by every guy that visits her. Would ML be cleaner than FS? I mean her service was fantastic but it was a bit wierd on a massage table making noise and trying to keep it low so the boss doesn't knock. Probably should have negotiated better lol. Then again, I doubt she will take a discount on next visit -.-... Apparently she said ML only makes around $250 per shift?

[MAX FAKE]

I like a good massage and potentially a root if I can. It's my first time seeing the girl and never asked a girl if they are willing to do FS so had no idea what to offer. Not many FS can do good massages. I like the fact that it's unlikely the ML has been fucked by every guy that visits her. Would ML be cleaner than FS? I mean her service was fantastic but it was a bit wierd on a massage table making noise and trying to keep it low so the boss doesn't knock. Probably should have negotiated better lol. Then again, I doubt she will take a discount on next visit -.-... Apparently she said ML only makes around $250 per shift?

Don't believe everything she tells you. She is probably making twice or three times what she told you, but considering what they have to do, I think they deserve every dollar.

[aussiegaigin]

I like a good massage and potentially a root if I can. It's my first time seeing the girl and never asked a girl if they are willing to do FS so had no idea what to offer. Not many FS can do good massages. I like the fact that it's unlikely the ML has been fucked by every guy that visits her. Would ML be cleaner than FS? I mean her service was fantastic but it was a bit wierd on a massage table making noise and trying to keep it low so the boss doesn't knock. Probably should have negotiated better lol. Then again, I doubt she will take a discount on next visit -.-... Apparently she said ML only makes around $250 per shift?

You've highlighted the main problem - FS on a massage table. For me, not the most comfortable way to enjoy sex.

As for being "clean", you may be the first to get inside her that day, but unless you are the first customer for the day, she is likely to have built up some body sweat and aroma which could be off-putting. Even then, you don't know how long since she last showered. MLs tend to live a long way from where they work.

[leggedon]

You've highlighted the main problem - FS on a massage table. For me, not the most comfortable way to enjoy sex.

As for being "clean", you may be the first to get inside her that day, but unless you are the first customer for the day, she is likely to have built up some body sweat and aroma which could be off-putting. Even then, you don't know how long since she last showered. MLs tend to live a long way from where they work.

Even if they are not engaging in fs some guy has probably just busted his nuts on her tits for the next punter to taste.
Moral of the story is go first or don't go at all.
Generally speaking Wls are much cleaner than mls that dont shower.
GENERALLY SPEAKING!

[aussiegaigin]

Or go to massage shops that have a shower.

[leggedon]

Or go to massage shops that have a shower.

How many massage shops /10 do you think have a shower? Even then it brings you back to the problem of awkward uncomfortable fs on a massage table.

[aussiegaigin]

How many massage shops /10 do you think have a shower? Even then it brings you back to the problem of awkward uncomfortable fs on a massage table.

I know some shops that do have at least one, and I tend to frequent them more than shops that don't. Some have facilities for the staff, but don't let customers use them.

[wilisno]

Always better value and a sure thing to get BBBJ or FS in a FS shop ! Not to mention the better facilities !

But then again , the idea to be able to have sex with a massage girl who doesn't get fucked by every customer walking through the door could well worth the extras you paid , was that not the very reasons why so many people are seeking more in RnT shops ?? Then of course the convenient ! I think RnT shops are pretty much in most suburbs and street corners these days and out numbered FS shops by a lot !!

Each to his own !
To have sex with a massage girl who doesn't normally do it is well worth the money ? Haha, that's the illusion RnT guys have in paying big money for lesser quality and time, if she can offer you this, she can and has offered to a lot other customers ! ;) ;) ;)

$220 can buy you a full FS experience for a full 45 minutes at the higher end FS shops, not just a few minutes of part 2 time !

[wilisno]

You've highlighted the main problem - FS on a massage table. For me, not the most comfortable way to enjoy sex.

As for being "clean", you may be the first to get inside her that day, but unless you are the first customer for the day, she is likely to have built up some body sweat and aroma which could be off-putting. Even then, you don't know how long since she last showered. MLs tend to live a long way from where they work.

Well said ! ML's are cleaner is another illusion to RnT guys !

Let's just say, all girls want to be clean and do whatever they can to keep themselves clean with the available facilities !

[AHLUNGOR]

To have sex with a massage girl who doesn't normally do it is well worth the money ? Haha, that's the illusion RnT guys have in paying big money for lesser quality and time, if she can offer you this, she can and has offered to a lot other customers ! ;) ;) ;)

$220 can buy you a full FS experience for a full 45 minutes at the higher end FS shops, not just a few minutes of part 2 time !

As always , brother Wil gives good arguments and valid points! But the real issues are, how many $220 FS shops are there ? Any of them located within the CBD and close enough for a lunch time , between meeting/appointment, or after work quickies ??

I'm sure if there is a 5 Star or Ginza on York st, George St or Pitt St - they may have to put 100 girls on each shifts !! Just a thought !

Cheers

[wilisno]

As always , brother Wil gives good arguments and valid points! But the real issues are, how many $220 FS shops are there ? Any of them located within the CBD and close enough for a lunch time , between meeting/appointment, or after work quickies ??

I'm sure if there is a 5 Star or Ginza on York st, George St or Pitt St - they may have to put 100 girls on each shifts !! Just a thought !

Cheers
The question of this thread is fair price, not location ! The shop the OP mentioned might not be in the CBD either !

As for $220, there are quite a few FS shops cheaper than that within reach in the CBD !

And to answer the OP, if you absolutely want to have sex with a particular ML, there's no such thing as fair price, not how much you have to pay to be fair, but how much you want it !

[leggedon]

As always , brother Wil gives good arguments and valid points! But the real issues are, how many $220 FS shops are there ? Any of them located within the CBD and close enough for a lunch time , between meeting/appointment, or after work quickies ??

I'm sure if there is a 5 Star or Ginza on York st, George St or Pitt St - they may have to put 100 girls on each shifts !! Just a thought !

Cheers

Nice try man!

[MAX FAKE]

Or go to massage shops that have a shower.

Even if the massage shop has showers the ML will not shower after every customer, guaranteed! They are there to do as many customers as possible, no time to shower and freshen up.
Being the first customer of the day is a pretty good policy, otherwise just don't put your mouth anywhere during the session and you should be right.

[woods23]

Thats why im always the first customer in.
Yep. Not all ml use the shower , maybe if you are her top regular :) ( knowing that she be getting the whole package )

[H3da]

I thought alot of RNT in the CBD is $70 dollars an hour now? I guess I should have rephase my questio!- 'what is the average price you should be paying for FS with ML?' I guess guys like the fact of a challenge that they may not get it whereas FS shops, you are pretty much guarantee to get laid.

[wachumba]

ML will get more than WL if FS is involved. Say at a $150/hr FS shop like taren point or 533 willouby, the girl might get half, so $75. A ML doing 1hr massage would get about $30 + tips for massage if it is $60/hr.
So even at 501 Newtown where you could get FS for only $50 extra, the ML gets about $80/hr.

In 1hr, a ML would only let you cum once. A FS girl should let you cum twice or even more. ML is overcharging for FS. $50 used to be the norm for FS with ML

[itouch]

ML will get more than WL if FS is involved. Say at a $150/hr FS shop like taren point or 533 willouby, the girl might get half, so $75. A ML doing 1hr massage would get about $30 + tips for massage if it is $60/hr.
So even at 501 Newtown where you could get FS for only $50 extra, the ML gets about $80/hr.

In 1hr, a ML would only let you cum once. A FS girl should let you cum twice or even more. ML is overcharging for FS. $50 used to be the norm for FS with ML

WL gets $100 in a $150/hr session in most North Shore shops run by Chinese owner.

[carmen farquis]

$100 is the usual tip for fs in a $60 shop and of course she's going to be naked so you don't have to give the other tip. Sounds like a misunderstanding to me she probably meant $100 tip all up. That is for the northside and of course you can get cheaper with older or uglier girls or dirtier shop.

[illidanstormrage]

I'd recommend trying to charm them over a few sessions and see how far you can take it with just the normal tip. In the 2nd or 3rd session you will know for sure what the limit is..

I guess if you only plan on seeing them once brute force (dropping straight cash) is the play of the day. A girl is usually going to want a return on her investment (fucking you). Paid upfront in cash or just the right emotions.

But as always in life it mostly comes down to being at the right place at the right time.

Moneys always talks and if you drop enough you probaly will get an ML/Stripper to have protected sex with you but where's the fun in that. Watch the video from that point to see what I mean.

Nobody Wants To Ruin The Fun: How To Be The Playful Asshole And Get Laid ALL The Time https://youtu.be/YsnIYDk1RAM?t=1881

I'm sure everyone has heard the phrase "everyone has their price". I the doubt the sex would even be worth it because there is literally no connection lol.

Every Girl Has Her Price Prank! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWxT08QfRUw

[NaughtyBoy13]

Ask yourself that how much you enjoyed it? How much satisfied have you had with ladies. If you are happy? $220 is worth it ! But if you are not happy? Even you have paid a cheap price, its not worth it !

[xyj.1209]

Thanks for sharing anyway

[Bynumbynumbynum]

I'd recommend trying to charm them over a few sessions and see how far you can take it with just the normal tip. In the 2nd or 3rd session you will know for sure what the limit is..

I guess if you only plan on seeing them once brute force (dropping straight cash) is the play of the day. A girl is usually going to want a return on her investment (fucking you). Paid upfront in cash or just the right emotions.

But as always in life it mostly comes down to being at the right place at the right time.

Moneys always talks and if you drop enough you probaly will get an ML/Stripper to have protected sex with you but where's the fun in that. Watch the video from that point to see what I mean.

Nobody Wants To Ruin The Fun: How To Be The Playful Asshole And Get Laid ALL The Time https://youtu.be/YsnIYDk1RAM?t=1881

I'm sure everyone has heard the phrase "everyone has their price". I the doubt the sex would even be worth it because there is literally no connection lol.

Every Girl Has Her Price Prank! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWxT08QfRUw

Will try your recommendations

[TresCojones]

i used to think being the first customar meant i would get a clean lady and i always go to shops with showers but on several occasions mls have showed up to start work sweaty and stinky like she rode her pushbike from the other side of town!! and who's to say she didnt just have morning sex with her boyfriend leaving a mess all over her? if you want a clean girls then shops of any kind are the wrong place to look. some definitely have better hygeine then others and it would be interesting to see more reviews describing the girls shower and cleanup before and after

[leggedon]

i used to think being the first customar meant i would get a clean lady and i always go to shops with showers but on several occasions mls have showed up to start work sweaty and stinky like she rode her pushbike from the other side of town!! and who's to say she didnt just have morning sex with her boyfriend leaving a mess all over her? if you want a clean girls then shops of any kind are the wrong place to look. some definitely have better hygeine then others and it would be interesting to see more reviews describing the girls shower and cleanup before and after

Ain't that the truth!

[leggedon]

i used to think being the first customar meant i would get a clean lady and i always go to shops with showers but on several occasions mls have showed up to start work sweaty and stinky like she rode her pushbike from the other side of town!! and who's to say she didnt just have morning sex with her boyfriend leaving a mess all over her? if you want a clean girls then shops of any kind are the wrong place to look. some definitely have better hygeine then others and it would be interesting to see more reviews describing the girls shower and cleanup before and after

I used to break up the 2 services, Start with a good fs with a wl.
Bbj, cimws sometimes anal and then go to a massage shop until 1 day a ml at snow lotus started barking at me because I refused to accept her offer of a $20 hj or a $50 nude hj.
It's only when you have a massage with an empty ball sack you can truly see the lack of value in paying for massage shop extras.

[leggedon]

These days when I want to spoil myself I have a 1 hour legit thai massage then go right to the fs shop or sometimes the other way around or I go see Candy at VIP Pyrmont.
She'll make sure you have a great time but the down side is lack of facilities in that shop.

[lonely heart]

These days when I want to spoil myself I have a 1 hour legit thai massage then go right to the fs shop or sometimes the other way around or I go see Candy at VIP Pyrmont.
She'll make sure you have a great time but the down side is lack of facilities in that shop.

I had been saying that for years after $50 FS disappear from massage shop services menu.

[leggedon]

I had been saying that for years after $50 FS disappear from massage shop services menu.

I suppose the constant spamming from a certain member of this forum about rnt shops and flooding the general talk threads with pics had side tracked punters to where the value is.

[wachumba]

I suppose the constant spamming from a certain member of this forum about rnt shops and flooding the general talk threads with pics had side tracked punters to where the value is.

I thought that's what caused a lot of the extras prices to go up as well.

[leggedon]

I thought that's what caused a lot of the extras prices to go up as well.

Without a doubt!
Flooding the forum with overhyped biased reviews is bound to put the prices up!

[moving4ward]

Do not believe in the FS price that is written here. Yes the young ones most likely cost you $100 but plenty of girls in CBD can do it for $80. or even $70. Just many people are not telling and also girls told writers not to disclose the lower prices. many are in their late 20S are totally fuckable.

Young ones are much harder.... picky, no services and often ask for more than $100. Most importantly many are in massage shop because they usually do in/out/escort and they go to massage shop in days that they can't make money with their pussy. I make a rule to avoid the absolute youngest long time ago unless solid intel backs up the gal.

[leggedon]

I had been saying that for years after $50 FS disappear from massage shop services menu.

The good old days are long gone!
If you look at the maths it doesn't make sense,
Say a ml is charging $100 for an extra of 10 minutes fs that's $10 a minute or $600 per hour!
Imagine the quality of wl you can have for that price!

[H3da]

Many ML seems willing to offer FS as long as you are willing to spend the cash even if its your first visit. I've never been to a FS shop before.. Not sure why as I could be saving lots of money lol

[leggedon]

Many ML seems willing to offer FS as long as you are willing to spend the cash even if its your first visit. I've never been to a FS shop before.. Not sure why as I could be saving lots of money lol

You could be saving plenty of $$.
If you are after fs then go to fs shop.

[garfield]

OP asking about fair price, not cheapest. I think 80 to 100 tip should be fair.

[H3da]

80-100 would that include the normal tip or 50+ 80-100

[Mr Crash and Burn]

$50 that's it..although I have paid more.(idiotically)

Think about it....at an 85 for 30 minutes FS shop the girl gets 50 the shop gets 35
At a RNT 30 min for 35 Rnt the shop gets 20, the girl gets 15...so there a RnT girl get 65 to a WL's 50 for a 30 min FS session. Plus you can get a shower at a FS place, have a bed although some massage tables are great for fucking on.

So if you want to haggle...state the obvious!!

As for these ML's who charge differently in certain shops in certain suburbs...tell em their cunts are still the same in Penrith as they are in Palm Beach

[leggedon]

$50 that's it..although I have paid more.(idiotically)

Think about it....at an 85 for 30 minutes FS shop the girl gets 50 the shop gets 35
At a RNT 30 min for 35 Rnt the shop gets 20, the girl gets 15...so there a RnT girl get 65 to a WL's 50 for a 30 min FS session. Plus you can get a shower at a FS place, have a bed although some massage tables are great for fucking on.

So if you want to haggle...state the obvious!!

As for these ML's who charge differently in certain shops in certain suburbs...tell em their cunts are still the same in Penrith as they are in Palm Beach

Well said!

[aussiegaigin]

As for these ML's who charge differently in certain shops in certain suburbs...tell em their cunts are still the same in Penrith as they are in Palm Beach

But the pricks might be better quality? LOL

[leggedon]

It's only when you have a massage with an empty ball sack you can truly see the lack of value in paying for massage shop extras.

[moz]

but the rents arent

[leggedon]

but the rents arent

If the ml wants to earn wl money then she can always work in a brothel! Chances are she's working in a massage shop for a reason!

[H3da]

The girl said she can earn more in rnt than FS and she can decide who she offers it to and many FS shop the client want to cum twice etc.

[corvus]

So what is the 'normal' FS in a massage shop?

$50? + standard booking hourly fee ?
$100 + standard booking hourly fee ?

[mrzhang]

Can be anything bra..

Normal 50dollars depends up to 150 to 200 even free if she like ya bra :)

[leggedon]

The girl said she can earn more in rnt than FS and she can decide who she offers it to and many FS shop the client want to cum twice etc.

If that was the case I'm sure there would be many more wls converting to mls...?

[wilisno]

If that was the case I'm sure there would be many more wls converting to mls...?

That can happen if she couldn't get enough jobs as a WL, WLs are more competitive in appearance and performance, so she might get more jobs as MLs because RnT guys enjoy the challenge of successfully getting her do FS ! ;) ;) ;)

[leggedon]

Its more like

A) Younger ML converting to WL

B) Older WL converting to ML

That makes sense!

[leggedon]

That can happen if she couldn't get enough jobs as a WL, WLs are more competitive in appearance and performance, so she might get more jobs as MLs because RnT guys enjoy the challenge of successfully getting her do FS ! ;) ;) ;)

Successfully getting a ml to give up the goods isn't such a big deal considering if she's done it with you chances are she'll be doing it with others for the $$.
Unless you are 1 of those guys that have been suckered into believing that you are the only punter that has been balls deep inside and everyone else is getting nude hjs only.

[wilisno]

Successfully getting a ml to give up the goods isn't such a big deal considering if she's done it with you chances are she'll be doing it with others for the $$.
Unless you are 1 of those guys that have been suckered into believing that you are the only punter that has been balls deep inside and everyone else is getting nude hjs only.

It was meant to be sarcastic for those who think that way ! ;) ;) ;)

[GoldfishMan]

I once did the opposite. Instead of fs with ml, I paid full price for a WL to do massage on me. Why? Because the WL in question was smoking hot and I got to know she was a qualified Thai masseuse. The session turned out to be one of my most memorable punts because I had a full erection by the time she said "please turn over" and I was free to use it!!

[wilisno]

I once did the opposite. Instead of fs with ml, I paid full price for a WL to do massage on me. Why? Because the WL in question was smoking hot and I got to know she was a qualified Thai masseuse. The session turned out to be one of my most memorable punts because I had a full erection by the time she said "please turn over" and I was free to use it!!
That's the idea for value ! ;) ;) ;)

[Mr Crash and Burn]

but the rents arent

but moz....that rent differential should be reflected in the initial 30/60 minute massage fee. We are talking about tips/extras here...rent has nothing to do with it.

[dodgybastard2]

I suppose the constant spamming from a certain member of this forum about rnt shops and flooding the general talk threads with pics had side tracked punters to where the value is.

Hahaha. A valid point.

[corvus]

Can be anything bra..

Normal 50dollars depends up to 150 to 200 even free if she like ya bra :)


Thanks!


... I always thought $50 was just NHJ.... hmm..

[domo]

seems brisbane rates if you can find it is closer to 200 all up. sucks to be here :'(

[garfield]

Thanks!


... I always thought $50 was just NHJ.... hmm..

Not easy to have it at this rate. A couple of times happened to me was more like a freebie and paid the standard tip.

[freedom8]

So $100 all up for fs it's standard !!!
What about she chuck in anal as well extra $50 or $100 on top the already $100 ?