The price of happiness...

[darkice]

This one has been on my mind before but I have generally ignored. I'm now curious as to how others approach and of course it is each to their own.

So the other day went to this place and did 45 mins. Asked whether nude was on offer and got told at the end. Got to the end and got offered the nude and opted not to pay more for it. The ML then asked for payment upfront "as i changed my mind fast". I mean it is like only a small addition and time for a hefty price, which got me thinking that people must do this if the girls are offering??

For those people that are paying then I feel like I should do a community service and say you do realise you can pay the same amount and get them nude the whole time??? For most girls/places.

[hogansheros]

Make your intentions obvious from the start. :)

[popeye96]

At the very least I think they should strip off at the flip.

[str8up]

I mean it is like only a small addition and time for a hefty price, which got me thinking that people must do this if the girls are offering??.

how much more is it, on average?
And do they make it worth it?

[cjh]

how much more is it, on average?

$20 - $50 depending on where & what

[gpeck80]

Right at the end is bullshit. Popeye is right, at the filp is fair.

Darkice. Correct me if I'm wrong. Are you saying she demanded the extra nude service fee, without actually doing it? The girl had no right to ask for money in exchange for zero service in that regard. If I read your post right anyway.
Or did strip her close off and THEN offer, when you said no, she put her clothes back on and demanded the money anyway? I"m not clear on the order of events.

[RottenLittlePunt]

Most girls will strip from the start once you get to know them. New customers may get treated with more caution.

[gitl]

Most girls will strip from the start once you get to know them. New customers may get treated with more caution.

Pretty much the case in general. Once they get to know you nicer things do happen over time. I generally find that if you have a rapport, quite a lot of them will do extra things without you even asking (or paying more).

[darkice]

What you guys have just said was what I'm referring to. "At the very least stripping on the flip". Just saying that most places will do up front and that surprised guys pay for it just at the flip.

It was extra $50 and when she offered at the flip I rejected, because well, it was at the flip.

[darkice]

Should also add that I consider the flip the end usually. After that the rest is mainly clean up

[popeye96]

Should also add that I consider the flip the end usually. After that the rest is mainly clean up

Really? I find that at the flip is when the good stuff actually starts. Part one is just foreplay, or the build up.

[cjh]

I must admit for me it has to be nude all the way. Getting it all off only on the flip just feels too formulatic / mechanical.
Plus I must admit I like the feel of the occaisional accidental skin to skin brushes during the massage.

[str8up]

I'd like to think the ML gets more turned on if she's nude while giving the massage << and that could only lead to better things :)

[hogansheros]

I'd like to think the ML gets more turned on if she's nude while giving the massage << and that could only lead to better things :)

I am sorry to advise you that to see another white ass and needing to work on them is unlikely to be a turn-on for a cute 24 year old asian working holiday girl....

but for your own pleasure, please do continue to think that those moans are for you.

The other observation I love to make is how 'turned-on the girl can be, then as soon as we cum, it's all clean up and she's satisfied to let it pass. In reality, if a woman is that turned on and we suddenly stop, the usual reaction is to keep going.

I usually just tell them the fake moans are a turn off. In fact, they make us think we are doing good things to them and they are sending us false signals. To really develop your own sense of what is good for the lady, she needs to be honest with her feedback.

HH

[gpeck80]

My White Ass could be used to sell laundry products. I'll have you know.

[reddoor]

My White Ass could be used to sell laundry products. I'll have you know.Geeeez i hope were not going to see it on a billboard anywhere selling stain remover or something ....😂😄

[reddoor]

I am sorry to advise you that to see another white ass and needing to work on them is unlikely to be a turn-on for a cute 24 year old asian working holiday girl....

but for your own pleasure, please do continue to think that those moans are for you.

The other observation I love to make is how 'turned-on the girl can be, then as soon as we cum, it's all clean up and she's satisfied to let it pass. In reality, if a woman is that turned on and we suddenly stop, the usual reaction is to keep going.

I usually just tell them the fake moans are a turn off. In fact, they make us think we are doing good things to them and they are sending us false signals. To really develop your own sense of what is good for the lady, she needs to be honest with her feedback.

HH Of course your all most completely right but somethings (hopefully) can't be faked for instance i used c a girl at a well know notorious shop who had the most beautiful little brown body when i would run my tongue up the inside of her thighs u could feel the goose bumps forming on her legs . I used to stand behind her naked body move her hair to one side and kiss her on her neck and behind her ear and at the same time slowly cupping her firm little breasts with my hands i could feel her nipples getting hard in my fingers she would let out faint sighs and soon enough she turns around looks at me with that r u ready now look and then down she'd go . So did she fake the goose bumps and the hard nipples? who knows i lost myself for an hr in the best possible way, it was real enough for me .cheers

[gpeck80]

The biggest erogenous zone in your body is your brain. If you take a cynical attitude to a Woman's moans, you're only shooting yourself in the foot. I'm not gonna mention what with.

[blanet]

Of course your all most completely right but somethings (hopefully) can't be faked for instance i used c a girl at a well know notorious shop who had the most beautiful little brown body when i would run my tongue up the inside of her thighs u could feel the goose bumps forming on her legs . I used to stand behind her naked body move her hair to one side and kiss her on her neck and behind her ear and at the same time slowly cupping her firm little breasts with my hands i could feel her nipples getting hard in my fingers she would let out faint sighs and soon enough she turns around looks at me with that r u ready now look and then down she'd go . So did she fake the goose bumps and the hard nipples? who knows i lost myself for an hr in the best possible way, it was real enough for me .cheers

You can't fake physiological arousal responses like that. The sighs and moans as we all know can be faked tho.

[Gentleman20]

You can't fake physiological arousal responses like that. The sighs and moans as we all know can be faked tho.

You are absolutely right ... you can fake moans and noises but when the goose bumps are there and the legs are apart and the hole is opening ... nope ... cant fake that !