ML's can't have boyfriends...?

[ML_Lover]

So my 'massage' session this week ended being a bit of a disappointment - Shame, she was great the previous week.

my ML spent most of the session talking about how she split up with her boyfriend 6 months ago because she told him she worked in a massage place (not even a HE place) and he said she had to leave... But she has study bills to pay (and mumbled something about liking going out dancing and getting drunk) so in the end split up with him.

So now she is super lonely and next time either has to completely lie about what she does 2 days a week until 10pm (kinda hard) or simply have no boyfriend for 2 more years...

I tried to cheer her up, but my jokes around 'at least you get lots of sex' strangley didn't seem to work :anger:


I guess this problem must apply to a lot of them?

[classicfine]

Paging babycat

[paulgallen]

Where is this lovely ML ? I will provide free facetime advice for her

[Littlewonder]

There are plenty of working ladies ML if you like that have boy friends some accept it some don't time for her to just move on its not the end of the world.

[Babycat]

Paging babycat
Actually that's a question for you guys to answer, not me, :(

[Newbee]

Let's be honest... How many guys will accept their girlfriend doing that sort of work? I definitely wouldn't

[ML_Lover]

Actually that's a question for you guys to answer, not me, :(

Interested in your view, though - is this a common problem? Seems a bit sad, really.

I know of a certain ML at Sussex star that has a boyfriend she met there - he agreed to her continuing working as long as he could continue going to other HE massage places! Not sure how can work, it would completely do my head in :surprise:

[garfield]

So my 'massage' session this week ended being a bit of a disappointment - Shame, she was great the previous week.

my ML spent most of the session talking about how she split up with her boyfriend 6 months ago because she told him she worked in a massage place (not even a HE place) and he said she had to leave... But she has study bills to pay (and mumbled something about liking going out dancing and getting drunk) so in the end split up with him.

So now she is super lonely and next time either has to completely lie about what she does 2 days a week until 10pm (kinda hard) or simply have no boyfriend for 2 more years...

I tried to cheer her up, but my jokes around 'at least you get lots of sex' strangley didn't seem to work :anger:

I guess this problem must apply to a lot of them?
Looks like her BF see through her excuse and not trusting her to tell the truth. I think this is the right result to split up. The guy doesn't want her to be with other guys but doesn't have money to support her so she lose tge girl.
I've heard from other ML that their BF doesn't mind as long as no touching downstairs, reserved fir them

[Babycat]

Let's be honest... How many guys will accept their girlfriend doing that sort of work? I definitely wouldn't
Then we don't need a damn shit relationship. Rather being alone on my way than going with the person who actually look down on us and use our job as an excuse for their cheating!


Interested in your view, though - is this a common problem? Seems a bit sad, really.

I know of a certain ML at Sussex star that has a boyfriend she met there - he agreed to her continuing working as long as he could continue going to other HE massage places! Not sure how can work, it would completely do my head in :surprise:

If she were my friend, I would tell her to leave him. That relationship hasn't built on trust and respect. That's lust, not love. He might use it as an excuse for his cheating even if she quit her job. Not putting on their shoes but that's my view. How can it works when partner doesn't respect each other? It's hard to accept, but that relationship is worth if they can work it out. Why don't guy think that their girlfriends meet guys during their days, but end of days/ every session, they only think about their partners? I don't beg for sympathy. If my partner can understand my circumstance, I will be grateful to him.
Btw, Alan86, where are you now?

[AHLUNGOR]

Then we don't need a damn shit relationship. Rather being alone on my way than going with the person who actually look down on us and use our job as an excuse for their cheating!



If she were my friend, I would tell her to leave him. That relationship hasn't built on trust and respect. That's lust, not love. He might use it as an excuse for his cheating even if she quit her job. Not putting on their shoes but that's my view. How can it works when partner doesn't respect each other? It's hard to accept, but that relationship is worth if they can work it out. Why don't guy think that their girlfriends meet guys during their days, but end of days/ every session, they only think about their partners? I don't beg for sympathy. If my partner can understand my circumstance, I will be grateful to him.
Btw, Alan86, where are you now?

Hi Baby, don't get upset ! It's only opinions from all us horny punters in a sex forum !

There are plenty of good men out there, just don't meet them in the shops ok !

Cheers

[Newbee]

Some of the ML said that they are too scared to tell their boyfriend what they really do for a job and their parents overseas. Unfortunately as humans we are selfish and we like new things and not 2nd hand. No offence implied though. And don't like to share :-)

[rooter]

This is the dilemma for MLs and WLs.
Guys they meet as customers they don't trust as a boyfriend.
Guys they meet outside the shop and who don't know they are WLs/MLs would probably not be OK with their girlfriend being a WL/ML so they are afraid to tell them.

[Hammerhead]

Whenever this topic of MLs/punter/BF/GF, some of the responses of punters are downright disrepectful.

At the end of the day, MLs do their job because they need to fund high living costs and high international student fees amongst other things.

I can pretty much guarantee that they don't it coz the like the job!

Punters on the other hand frequent these shops because the want to. This distinction between the girls needing to do this job and us punters having the choice to see then seems to be missed by some guys.

The girls have a tough job as it is. The last thing they need is for us to look down on them as human beings simply because of their circumstances.

[Babycat]

Whenever this topic of MLs/punter/BF/GF, some of the responses of punters are downright disrepectful.

At the end of the day, MLs do their job because they need to fund high living costs and high international student fees amongst other things.

I can pretty much guarantee that they don't it coz the like the job!

Punters on the other hand frequent these shops because the want to. This distinction between the girls needing to do this job and us punters having the choice to see then seems to be missed by some guys.

The girls have a tough job as it is. The last thing they need is for us to look down on them as human beings simply because of their circumstances.
Thanks a lot. Very thoughtful when you pointed out the differences.

[poundher]

Women be better off searching for unicorn than a loyal man....

[Massage King]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

We all have choices, and rightly or wrongly some choices come with consequences. That's just how things work.

WL/ML have choices just like punters do.

[Newbee]

Less than 1% of guys will accept their spouse or girlfriend as a ml/wl. Yes, the money is good but there's a reason why nobody ever says they do that kind of job to friends/family because it's a shameful job? Plenty of jobs out there, most wl/ml love the quick and easy money to give it up once they start

[poundher]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

We all have choices, and rightly or wrongly some choices come with consequences. That's just how things work.

WL/ML have choices just like punters do.

Designer shoes and handbags and drug addiction = girls working in sex industry.
Besides that some of these girls want to send money home to support family.
You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

[sukeong]

Designer shoes and handbags and drug addiction = girls working in sex industry.
Besides that some of these girls want to send money home to support family.
You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

Yep and dun forget girls with daddy issues, previously abused, exploited and human trafficking, pay school/travelling fees = sex industry.


I have heard ML telling me their ML friends with bf knowing full well what they do or from this forum posters mention ML marrying customers or another forum saying WL in Thailand having their bf drive them to work lol and pocketing their earnings lol. All these second hand knowledge mind, not something I personally witnessed.

At some time trust issues will come up in the relationship IMO. Will the ML ever fully trust the bf who pay younger girls to strip and jerk him off? Will the bf ever fully trust the ML who provides sexual service to strange men for cash?

[ramjet]

Some years ago I was very friendly with the owner of a brothel in Canberra when I lived there. I would often go there in the evening to talk with her and help if she needed anything done, sometimes I'd drive girls to escort work or pickup/deliver girls to the bus terminal. I saw a lot of things that shocked me at the time such a Thai girl that would come down from Sydney to work for the weekend. Her boyfriend would drive her and stay in Canberra for the weekend, he'd sit with us in the common room while the girl would work and when she'd finish every job he was so concerned he'd ask her "how was it, are you ok?". They planned to marry and needed some cash to get started and that happened for a couple of months. She was very popular and had many regulars and was seeing around 15 guys a day but he didn't seem to have any problems with it because he just thought of the money.

Another instance was a Chinese guy that worked for the brothel part-time as a receptionist/driver and the days he worked he'd bring his wife along. She was about 40, fat and ugly but she worked on the side and was very happy to get 2 or 3 jobs a day and the husband was ecstatic to get the money. He'd just sit there while she was getting pumped
I couldn't believe it.

They were crazy days and a lot of fun as I got to know a lot of WLs.

Anyone, I saw a few instances where guys don't care about their girlfriend working.

[ARking]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

not even kidding when i say 80% of the mls ive seen have an iphone 6 or newer

http://i.imgur.com/ZF40ePU.jpg

[foxybabe]

I respect the girls for what they do for a living

Its is not an easy or even disgusting job, I agree.

But do the girls have a choice?

Yes, they always have a choice just like us punters.
They can leave Australia, or work in a Cafe or restaurant
Almost all of the MLs I know,they also buy expensive stuff, they travel and they dine out a lot, which they could have saved for their tuition fees but they also want to a good lifestyle in Australia, so they 'HAVE' to be a ML/WL

Not saying we should look down on them, but it is a fact that most MLs keep doing this job because it is an easy money while she could found a job somewhere else, which might compromise her current lifestyle

If the girl has a boyfriend/husband, that is way worse..

Just my 2 cents

[Littlewonder]

When I was younger I didn't even know what a wl or ml was I had heard of a prostitute!

I used to think how could anyone do that job, and I would hate it if my wife or girlfriend did work as a ml or wl.

As i got older I appreciate that there is a need for the services of a wl and ml.

I still think it is very hard to have a wl or ml as a girl friend and almost impossible to have as a wife.

Having said that I had an affair with a wl for 10 years.

These days I see different ladies so I dont get too keen on one lady but the important thing is they are human beings they all I am sure would love to be loved and love someone.

Thing is these days I am old and the girl I like are all young, well if your 20 something probably not young but to me young so how can I have anything with these girls, I have a favourite at the moment unfortunately she doesn't speak any English so that make it tough.

Yes I could love a working lady there are plenty of lovely wl out there and most of them work really hard, for them or the ones I see these days dont speak much English that makes it hard for them to earn a dollar in Australia.

I have a great respect for wl and ml they have a difficult job and most of them do it very well.

I am old fashioned and still think that its the mans job to look after his woman and provide for her if he can do that and she doesn't have to work thats got to be the best result for a relationship with a wl.

As a male you need to think I am not better than her, she has done what she has had to do to survive treat her right and move on an build your relationship and life with her if you get the chance.

[ARking]

Her name was Lonnie, she went to Junior High with me
I said, "Why you up in there dancing for cash?
I guess a whole lots changed since I seen you last"
She said
What would you do if your son was at home
Crying all alone
On the bedroom floor
Cause he's hungry and the only way to feed him is to
Sleep with a man for a little bit of money?
And his daddy's gone, somewhere smokin' rock now
In and out of lock down
I ain't got a job now
So for you this is just a good time
But for me this is what I call life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahcSFleKm8&feature=youtu.be&t=28s

[rooter]

Pay. Fuck. Leave.
That's the unholy trinity of punting and as long as you follow it you will have an awesome time again and again and again.
And you will sleep like a baby every night and wake up ready to eat the world every morning.
The girls are your girlfriend for one hour.
In that brief time you have together treat her like a precious princess, treat her like she is your sweet darling girlfriend, treat her like she is the only girl in the known universe, because for that brief hour she is.
Laugh, kiss, hug, talk, fuck, suck, lick, enjoy.
And when it's over, well it's over.
You both move on - she goes on to the next customer - you go on to the next girl.
That's punting. It's beautiful. It's sublime. It's sacred. It's perfect.
Celebrate it. Don't contaminate, complicate, pollute, or adulterate it.

[Nejums]

Catching feelings for WLs/MLs is a no no. I mean, mighty tempting to try and "conquer" one, but definitely not worth the headache.

If I was single and some how got to hooking up with an ML/WL, I'd ask her to quit too. I wouldn't get into the petty shit like how many men she's been with, but certainly not still being active in that profession. And as respect for her, I'd obviously have to quit punting too. Failure for either party to comply will only grow animosity. Toxic shit for any relationship.

But yes, general rule for the noobies, punting and personal life are two separate entities.

[CunningLinguist]

This is the dilemma for MLs and WLs.
Guys they meet as customers they don't trust as a boyfriend.


Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

[dufour]

Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

Both statements are generalisations and not universally true

[Miyamoto]

This is an interesting topic and raises two very different questions for me. 1) would I want my gf to work as a ml/wl. To me I can think of several reasons why my answer is no, and babycat none of them reflect badly on the girl. They are around not trusting the men (would they pressure her to break her boundaries, would they treat her badly)that would see her, around the pressure for sexual performance placed on men and the male ego (are a lot of the men bigger, better than me etc). The second question which seems similar but is different is, could I have a ml/wl as a gf. I think many who would answer no to the first question would answer yes to the second. Though in most cases, and probably mine too, it would come to a point in the relationship when you would want the girl to quit, for reasons in 1).

[cuteguy]

You would be surprised how many MLs actually do have boyfriends. During some sessions, some MLs were upfront and revealed being in a relationship. Some also stated that they weren't prepared to do extras because this would be betraying their boyfriend's trust. On the other hand, there are those who definitely keep it a secret from their boyfriends or even husbands that they work as MLs. I wonder how long they can keep it as a secret. What if the boyfriend or husband questions his girl what she does or sees her walking into a shop, what will she say to him? Honey, I'm getting a massage or working as a waitress in a restaurant. :shout:

[CunningLinguist]

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

[cuteguy]

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

Just recently I came across a Thai ML who stated that she had a boyfriend back in Thailand and therefore she couldn't do any extras. She wanted to remain faithful to him. What's the probability that her boyfriend was with other girls?

We all know long distance relationships generally don't last.

[Crusader]

This topic hurts my brain ..

Especially the thought of my Mrs offering up her body to other men.
Being the hypocritical male that I am, I would not bat an eyelid if she were to do that with other females.

This whole industry has is the product of men's needs.
Maybe the men are the issue here?

[CunningLinguist]

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

[cuteguy]

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

Blame the man again. It was Eve who tempted Adam with the apple not the other way round. Lol

[cmk76]

Designer shoes and handbags and drug addiction = girls working in sex industry.
Besides that some of these girls want to send money home to support family.
You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

[DemonHarry]

You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

Thanks mate!
But, it all comes down to the quality/honesty of communication between two people, self awareness about what you will and won't accept (not what you 'think' you'll accept or not accept - you can only get this from living a full life), clearly letting the other person know your boundaries and unconditionally accepting their boundaries (not trying to get them to change theirs to make yourself feel better), each person needing to know what the other needs to inoculate/soothe against jealousy /suspicion, and uncompromising commitment to respecting these boundaries, communicating whenever you start to feel disconnected and giving what the other truly needs to trust you.... It's what's needed to make any relationship work, not just for the ML/punter.

[tontnam]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

We all have choices, and rightly or wrongly some choices come with consequences. That's just how things work.

WL/ML have choices just like punters do.

Agreed. In the beginning of my entry into this (out of desperate loneliness and having social awkwardness which I am dealing with ) I used to have an enormous sympathy for most of these ladies. But in recent times I realised that it's best to be neutral on this. Upon calculation there is a lot of cash being earned in a certain range and this amount is far more than neccessary for fees and living. A large percentage of punters that frequent such places are not earning nearly as much as even an ML. The government is rather stupid -- the money Is merely being circulated within of this country instead to pay fees -- there is no export of education so to speak to bring foreign dollars in here. As for the ML's/WL's I think greed takes over after a few months for the successful ones. It affects some , but yes eventually there are many girls working for 20 per hour in ordinary jobs still managing to pay for their time or experience into oz. It is quite sad in either case. Because on both sides theirs an erosion of something (punter and W/ML).

[tontnam]

Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

Truth. At what point would a girl quit. People do go through career change 3 times they say. And it's inevitable in this field that value declines with age. Difference between ginza rate and 533 rate is an example. And I am sure that after a number of years Jacking off guys all day is not doing the girls brain matter any good nor aiding in development of ideas on how to get out of this mediocre role. And it seems like they could become slave to themselves and spend all this money on addictions --my frequency of this reduced dramatically when I realised that some form of addiction was used to keep these girls going after being fucked by 10 to 15 guys a day. That is a soul sapping activity.

[Babycat]

But after all, it's hard for a ml having boyfriend, right?

[Newbee]

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

[ML_Lover]

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family
What a sad thing to say.
I've met a few ML's I would very happily have as a girlfriend (though she would have to stop working, I would get too jealous/paranoid).

[poundher]

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

Nobody has to know what she has done to make her money.
Smart wls/mls work long enough to get ahead then get out of the industry.
With the right financial advice it can easily be done.

[woods23]

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

Shut up you ...lol.
No one is asking you!

[poundher]

Shut up you ...lol.
No one is asking you!

Here we go again...

[garfield]

Actually many ML don't want to have a boyfriend. They want to be free to earn their money.

[Babycat]

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family
I understand that it's tough situation. We have families and social lives around.

Actually many ML don't want to have a boyfriend. They want to be free to earn their money.
I'm not sure about others. Some of my colleagues want to be free to earn money. They want a good life with luxurious items around them, or they have to support their families. Some don't like serious relationships but just want sex partners.

Personally, I need someone who misses me indeed and be honest to me. A real relationship that I can be myself to him, and I can please him and make him happy.
The problem is I don't know if he's genuine or not, needs me to walk through the storms together or just wants my body. Also, I need time to prepare for my next steps. It's hard to stop everything suddenly without preparing. It doesn't mean that I chose money instead of him and he's not important to me. It's very easy if I just live for myself but I don't want to be a burden of anyone I love.
But he gets paranoid that I don't have enough time for him and instead of belong to him only, I let other guys look and touch me. And that's my fault.

[simplelife]

From what I have seen and heard from personal friends.

1. (STRONG RECOMMENDATION) TRY NOT TO date a ML/WL if you cant support her financially. Rollercoaster of emotions coming
2. First 3-4 months you/her will know if its genuine. Hence it repeats to rule 1. She aint going to quit if you cant support her financially.
3. If you really want to and financially your not able to support her. Just be prepared and be strong.

But in saying so its nothing different to a normal relationship. It requires both parties to work together. My mates both poor and rich have ML wives. Communication and trust are the most important aspects of any relationship but money makes things a lot easier. And the MLs are not gold diggers well the MLs who are my mates wives now.

[Babycat]

From what I have seen and heard from personal friends.

1. (STRONG RECOMMENDATION) TRY NOT TO date a ML/WL if you cant support her financially. Rollercoaster of emotions coming
2. First 3-4 months you/her will know if its genuine. Hence it repeats to rule 1. She aint going to quit if you cant support her financially.
3. If you really want to and financially your not able to support her. Just be prepared and be strong.

But in saying so its nothing different to a normal relationship. It requires both parties to work together. My mates both poor and rich have ML wives. Communication and trust are the most important aspects of any relationship but money makes things a lot easier. And the MLs are not gold diggers well the MLs who are my mates wives now.

Agreed. Communication and trust are very important. Instead of being openly, after few months, I find it difficult to communicate that made me deliberate .

[rooter]

I'm not into relationships -1 hour with a girl is like a happy 5 year marriage for me.
So whether a girl is a nurse, or lawyer, or ML, or WL, or waitress makes no difference to me - I'm not gonna date her either way ...
I wish them all happiness with a nice guy ...

[TallyHo]

What babycat, simplelife, and some others have said are true. I can relate to it because my girlfriend is a ML.

Initially, it was difficult for both - I would walk the line of paranoia about her work and she was not too sure about me being genuine, as she would ponder if I still visited massage shops. It took effort and time to build trust and understanding, as well as acceptance. Communication was a barrier because her level of English was poor.

I don't exactly like what she does at work, but she has assured me she knows her limits - no sex with customers and limited touching. She appears to value herself and our relationship, so that goes a long way. I have looked beyong her massage work as it is not life time.

Looking at the bigger picture, what would be more sinister and morally worse - a ML who provides extras, or a husband / boyfriend / wife / girlfriend who has an affair? At least with the former, you know it is her work and she doesn't hide it; whereas with an affair, it is corruption of the heart.

[otokosg]

will work out fine."

[CunningLinguist]

What babycat, simplelife, and some others have said are true. I can relate to it because my girlfriend is a ML.

Initially, it was difficult for both - I would walk the line of paranoia about her work and she was not too sure about me being genuine, as she would ponder if I still visited massage shops. It took effort and time to build trust and understanding, as well as acceptance. Communication was a barrier because her level of English was poor.

I don't exactly like what she does at work, but she has assured me she knows her limits - no sex with customers and limited touching. She appears to value herself and our relationship, so that goes a long way. I have looked beyong her massage work as it is not life time.

Looking at the bigger picture, what would be more sinister and morally worse - a ML who provides extras, or a husband / boyfriend / wife / girlfriend who has an affair? At least with the former, you know it is her work and she doesn't hide it; whereas with an affair, it is corruption of the heart.

You wanna hope she does not have an account on this forum then ... :)

[garfield]

I understand that it's tough situation. We have families and social lives around.

I'm not sure about others. Some of my colleagues want to be free to earn money. They want a good life with luxurious items around them, or they have to support their families. Some don't like serious relationships but just want sex partners.

Personally, I need someone who misses me indeed and be honest to me. A real relationship that I can be myself to him, and I can please him and make him happy.
The problem is I don't know if he's genuine or not, needs me to walk through the storms together or just wants my body. Also, I need time to prepare for my next steps. It's hard to stop everything suddenly without preparing. It doesn't mean that I chose money instead of him and he's not important to me. It's very easy if I just live for myself but I don't want to be a burden of anyone I love.
But he gets paranoid that I don't have enough time for him and instead of belong to him only, I let other guys look and touch me. And that's my fault.

I think you have a good perspective. When you meet your man, he will be very lucky.

[neon]

What babycat, simplelife, and some others have said are true. I can relate to it because my girlfriend is a ML.

Initially, it was difficult for both - I would walk the line of paranoia about her work and she was not too sure about me being genuine, as she would ponder if I still visited massage shops. It took effort and time to build trust and understanding, as well as acceptance. Communication was a barrier because her level of English was poor.

I don't exactly like what she does at work, but she has assured me she knows her limits - no sex with customers and limited touching. She appears to value herself and our relationship, so that goes a long way. I have looked beyong her massage work as it is not life time.

Looking at the bigger picture, what would be more sinister and morally worse - a ML who provides extras, or a husband / boyfriend / wife / girlfriend who has an affair? At least with the former, you know it is her work and she doesn't hide it; whereas with an affair, it is corruption of the heart.

who could give us guarantee that if our partner is not an ML or a WL that our love life will be happily ever after?

after all, this is just another borderline case and Brother TallyHo wish you all the best and hopefully you don't make your love on a wasteland

[Babycat]

I think you have a good perspective. When you meet your man, he will be very lucky.
I had a painful experiences instead. I thought everything was changed and finally I could be normal. Simple things like a text "Are we okay?", "Are you tired?", "I miss you", or going out for movie, holding hands and walking around (I like walking), cuddling and hugging that made me so happy. Then suddenly he said he couldn't tolerate my job as he felt jealous. I asked him to give me times but he just gave some excuses then we didn't contact in few months that made me crying inside. I stopped using Whatsapp from that time as I'm afraid that I can't control myself but send him texts then receive a "seen" only. Last week he suddenly appeared in my shop and booked me. Very hard for me to be calmed in front of him. I couldn't hear what he said at that time. I actually don't understand why he came back. Anyway, I just gave him a massage and he could not see my tears while facing down. We're bad strangers.

[garfield]

I had a painful experiences instead. I thought everything was changed and finally I could be normal. Simple things like a text "Are we okay?", "Are you tired?", "I miss you", or going out for movie, holding hands and walking around (I like walking), cuddling and hugging that made me so happy. Then suddenly he said he couldn't tolerate my job as he felt jealous. I asked him to give me times but he just gave some excuses then we didn't contact in few months that made me crying inside. I stopped using Whatsapp from that time as I'm afraid that I can't control myself but send him texts then receive a "seen" only. Last week he suddenly appeared in my shop and booked me. Very hard for me to be calmed in front of him. I couldn't hear what he said at that time. I actually don't understand why he came back. Anyway, I just gave him a massage and he could not see my tears while facing down. We're bad strangers.

I had similar experience where I provide that level of care to the ML but in my case it wasn't enough as she cares only for money.
No need to be sad if your guy can't manage himself, he don't deserves you.

[Sam88]

Exactly , plenty out there who would appreciate you

[Newbee]

If you want a serious relationship, you quit the industry or be prepared to be played or go out with desperate losers

[Babycat]

If you want a serious relationship, you quit the industry or be prepared to be played or go out with desperate losers
I'm preparing.

[Newbee]

I'm preparing.

Is it that hard to quit? Geez... Unless you take action, you will say the same thing every day and one day it will be too late. Perhaps the greed has sucked you in too far to turn back

[Babycat]

Is it that hard to quit? Geez... Unless you take action, you will say the same thing every day and one day it will be too late. Perhaps the greed has sucked you in too far to turn back
Sounds so ironic. Case closed.

[Fisher]

I had a painful experiences instead. I thought everything was changed and finally I could be normal. Simple things like a text "Are we okay?", "Are you tired?", "I miss you", or going out for movie, holding hands and walking around (I like walking), cuddling and hugging that made me so happy. Then suddenly he said he couldn't tolerate my job as he felt jealous. I asked him to give me times but he just gave some excuses then we didn't contact in few months that made me crying inside. I stopped using Whatsapp from that time as I'm afraid that I can't control myself but send him texts then receive a "seen" only. Last week he suddenly appeared in my shop and booked me. Very hard for me to be calmed in front of him. I couldn't hear what he said at that time. I actually don't understand why he came back. Anyway, I just gave him a massage and he could not see my tears while facing down. We're bad strangers.


You have the right too refuse service to anyone you are not comfortable with.
If your shop insists you go ahead with providing a service to that person stay strong and refuse.

If you like going for walks i know quite a few around sydney and surrounds.
If you do not drive/have car access some are convenient by public transport.
Most can be done in a few hours and others are day trips for you and your friends to see the sites and escape the cbd for a while (assuming you live in the cbd).
Getting out in nature and enjoying the scenery breaks up the routine of day to day life.

[Newbee]

Sounds so ironic. Case closed.

Stick to jerking guy's cocks. You might find your future husband there

[Babycat]

Truth. At what point would a girl quit. People do go through career change 3 times they say. And it's inevitable in this field that value declines with age. Difference between ginza rate and 533 rate is an example. And I am sure that after a number of years Jacking off guys all day is not doing the girls brain matter any good nor aiding in development of ideas on how to get out of this mediocre role. And it seems like they could become slave to themselves and spend all this money on addictions --my frequency of this reduced dramatically when I realised that some form of addiction was used to keep these girls going after being fucked by 10 to 15 guys a day. That is a soul sapping activity.


Let's be honest... How many guys will accept their girlfriend doing that sort of work? I definitely wouldn't


Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...
There are a lots of grey areas that hard to define black or white. Everyone has their own opinions and choices and should be respected.

[bream]

Working ladies are stereotyped. That they are hyper sexual nymphos , sleep with
men on first date or that they are damaged and needed to be treated as fragile.
Sure this would apply to some but i'm sure there would be also some who were
authentic and genuine.
Are real women any different ? If you can't accept there current or past history
that's your right. But remember the man who sleeps with hundred's or thousands
of hookers who wants a real partner is no different from the working lady who
wants a real partner and some affection. They have a hard life so if they can
find some real happiness they deserve it.

[simplelife]

I don't think many people would want to just quit a well paying job to a lower paying job for a "potential" or "unforeseeable" love affair which may come along their way. Well I know for a fact I won't unless its quite clear its real.

Its not that easy to find someone that you like apparently. Standards etc, idgaf because I don't want one.

If something is meant to happen its going to happen sooner or later. Just chill. In the mean time, stack that paper and plan that retirement game.

[Newbee]

There are a lots of grey areas that hard to define black or white. Everyone has their own opinions and choices and should be respected.

You might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past

[Babycat]

you might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past
nothing to comment

[x11]

Babycat,

The spark, the fire within, it burns brightly, brighter than a thousand suns... Don't let this line of work extinguish it!

[Raybo]

You might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past

This is uninformed and unnecessary.

[bream]

The reason for being a working lady is monetary but who can blame them . If a girl
can use her body to her advantage that is smart. I mean who wants to work until
there 70 ? I am male but unless I win the lottery I will have to work another
40 odd years. I will get bad back , aching joints and probably arthritis.
Why would a women want to experience this ? I remember when I was working
part time and you would work with older woman and you could see the effects
of work and the stress. Then you would meet ladies with BMW' s and you could
see that though they might raise have to raise children they have a life that
is secure. Anybody that has a daughter wants them to marry somebody
rich .
That's not been selfish but true. I mean who wants there daughter to have a
tough life . Its a jungle out there survival of the fittest and if a girl uses her
assets to get ahead I say you have the right idea.

[AHLUNGOR]

You might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past

What kind of ass hole and low life are you to say this kind of things to a young lady !

What has she ever done to you to deserve this sort of insults ?

[bream]

You might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past

This type of comment is fulfilling the stereotyping society view of individuals
who see working ladies are men who exploit women and don't care and
have hearts of stone.
Thankfully majority of punters on this forum don't share the view of this
member above.

[GoldfishMan]

You might need an operation to make your pussy tight again so your future husband doesn't know about your past
I often wonder what guys with small dicks think, now I know. Wake up and smell the roses buddy, it's because your dick is too small all along. Maybe you can go for surgery to enlarge your dick...