How to tell if a wl/ml genuinely like you?

[beta101]

Hi Guys,

I been in this game long enough to know you love you lose. However, sometime in your darkest, weakest, most vulnerable and passionate moment you want to believe there's something more. Then you realise you are paying for service and everything is fake. I mean is there a way to tell if a wl/ml genuinely like you?

LOL

[CunningLinguist]

If she says "me you you long time" then she likes you :)

The only way to tell is to sell all your assets and give them to her and see if she still wants to see you...

[Punterman]

Hi Guys,

I been in this game long enough to know you love you lose. However, sometime in your darkest, weakest, most vulnerable and passionate moment you want to believe there's something more. Then you realise you are paying for service and everything is fake. I mean is there a way to tell if a wl/ml genuinely like you?

LOL

It's a tough one. I have been punting for 15 years and over 1,000 Asians pumped. I always treat girls nicely and my favourite pastime is DATY and making them cum. That helps getting them to like you as I am very good at it and they don't get it off many customers, a good service that is.

As far as them liking you, I look at it this way. If you are a good customer for them and treat them well then they will like you more than their bad customers. Probably nothing more to it than that. If they give you a good quality service and you both enjoy the session then both of you should be happy.

[woods23]

Are you looking for "Ultra GFE "
Hehe ;)


Yes they are out there .....lol

[Punterman]

Hi Guys,

I been in this game long enough to know you love you lose. However, sometime in your darkest, weakest, most vulnerable and passionate moment you want to believe there's something more. Then you realise you are paying for service and everything is fake. I mean is there a way to tell if a wl/ml genuinely like you?

LOL

If they give you bbfs. Four of my regulars do so they must like me !!

[Sam88]

If they give you bbfs. Four of my regulars do so they must like me !!

If you have four that is giving you BBFS, that's fuck lol

[cassius]

it's far more complicated than that, because people are complicated. The risk area is the girl who lilies the pet calf knowing one day she will enjoy it for dinner. The affection is real but so is the ending .

[cisco]

They will never like you cause even they say i like you its all lie , cause when i say i like to one girl and when i meet the next girl i will say i like her too :miao: and when i go see wl or ml most of time wherever they say all the words get in to my right ear and get out from my left ear :shout: thats me :shout: and when i go for punt i left behind all LIKE nor LOVE feeling at home , make it a simple life no headache about this and that cause its all about sex no more then that once the session is finished then its all finished there :miao:

[Yageez88]

If they give you bbfs. Four of my regulars do so they must like me !!

haha i'd like to think so too. especially when one of them gets into it so much!

I haven't seen one of mine for a while now... she must think i've forgotten about her, should see her again.

[cisco]

When you know where to go to punt then you know where to put Like nor Love behind bra :miao:

[otokosg]

depends on a few factors

[Nejums]

They're great actresses. The only way to know if they truly like you is if they are willing to see you outside of work at a more personal level, but even this is not a guarantee.

[Travelmate]

She gives you her house keys is a good indication.

You can sleep over is good indication

She cooks for you is good indication

You spend less on her compare with how much to pay her inside the shop.

Then I think she really feel OK with me.

[alot]

If ml refused your tips for third part,I think she likes you.

[shootermcgavin]

If you have four that is giving you BBFS, that's fuck lol

100% they're only offering that service to him I'm sure....

[Travelmate]

If ml refused your tips for third part,I think she likes you.

Yes. That happens too

[AHLUNGOR]

She gives you her house keys is a good indication.

You can sleep over is good indication

She cooks for you is good indication

You spend less on her compare with how much to pay her inside the shop.

Then I think she really feel OK with me.

Speaking from a lot of experiences no doubt !

[quackman]

If ml refused your tips for third part,I think she likes you.
That's a tell tale sign and what everyone punters dreams of

[rooter]

You are thinking too much bro.
You just have to be in the moment, in the second, in the micro second that is eternity.
Don't think about it, don't analyse it, don't try to make things happen - just be.
Enjoy!

[Wayne]

You are thinking too much bro.
You just have to be in the moment, in the second, in the micro second that is eternity.
Don't think about it, don't analyse it, don't try to make things happen - just be.
Enjoy!

Wise words. The present is a present. Enjoy it for what it is.

[Babycat]

When she wants to spend time with you without benefit loss.
And when she wants you spend time with her.

[Punterman]

When she wants to spend time with you without benefit loss.
And when she wants you spend time with her.

Hi Babycat

What makes you like a customer, is it the way they treat you ?

[DrFeelGood]

When she invites you out for a date then to her place and fuck for the next 5mos without having to pay anything

[Babycat]

Hi Babycat

What makes you like a customer, is it the way they treat you ?
I really don't know. Maybe because of their kindness and humour sense. The first one I liked impressed me with his swear "you're fk hot!", then his introduction "I'm S."
One thing I forgot: he gave me a bar of chocolate on Easter. That's so impressive.

[Punterman]

I really don't know. Maybe because of their kindness and humour sense. The first one I liked impressed me with his swear "you're fk hot!", then his introduction "I'm S."


There we go. Kindness and a sense of humour. Just like in every other part of life.

[Punterman]

I really don't know. Maybe because of their kindness and humour sense. The first one I liked impressed me with his swear "you're fk hot!", then his introduction "I'm S."
One thing I forgot: he gave me a bar of chocolate on Easter. That's so impressive.

Chocolate. The way to a girls heart !!

[cuteguy]

They're great actresses. The only way to know if they truly like you is if they are willing to see you outside of work at a more personal level, but even this is not a guarantee.

If they like you they may give out their number to you but that doesn't mean they like you as a friend. It could be just for business purposes. If a ML goes out with you a few times and doesn't ask for any financial reward for going out with you then she might be interested in you. If she engages in sex with you for free, it may mean she is taking a liking to you. That said, it's not easy to work them out these days especially when they have worked as MLs for some time.

[local]

One thing I forgot: he gave me a bar of chocolate on Easter. That's so impressive.

I remember a few years ago, carrying a parcel @ this time of year and dropping into the local rnt. The girl thought the parcel was for her and was extra "giving", at the end I could see she was dying so see what was in it....

Well it actually was a plumbers gas powered soldering iron, so when she grab the parcel and ripped it open, the surprise on her face was astonishing, she turned to be and said, "how did you know ?"

She actually did leadlighting, and needed a new soldering torch !!

[CunningLinguist]

I remember a few years ago, carrying a parcel @ this time of year and dropping into the local rnt. The girl thought the parcel was for her and was extra "giving", at the end I could see she was dying so see what was in it....

Well it actually was a plumbers gas powered soldering iron, so when she grab the parcel and ripped it open, the surprise on her face was astonishing, she turned to be and said, "how did you know ?"

She actually did leadlighting, and needed a new soldering torch !!

Did you let her keep it ?

[wilisno]

Did you let her keep it ?

Sounds too tough and too big for a dildo ?! ;) ;) ;)

[local]

Did you let her keep it ?

Of course.

Nowadays she no longer works as an ML. Actually the guy she ended up marrying is "a nice guy" and they have a small child together.
I taught her some of the safety aspects she had to follow with her hobby (lead is b.dangerous) and she is now "semi-professional", some of her repair work is phenomenal !!

[Gregorious]

One girl I used to see and tip regularly ended up moving into my suburb only a few buildings down the road.

Now she regularly visits me at my place and fucks me for free.

I don't take advantage and chase her allure time but generally no more than 2 weeks goes by without a home visit.

I think Thai women have it in their nature to be more giving than most.

[garfield]

When she wants to spend time with you without benefit loss.
And when she wants you spend time with her.

This is so true.

[Peter69]

Haha well I love how transparent the M/L I've started to be a regular of is, whilst we're half way through the massage which by now is more like lying around naked together she mentions an item for her flat that she wants & by the end of the last session is practically making a deal with me that if I buy her this then I can deliver it to her apartment where she'll give me a private session! Haha I fucken laughed, do I look that stupid!??? I guess they just try until they score, oh yeah & I also got the I really like you + her number hahaha such a classic girl!!

[A44]

When the Lady pays to extend the session.
I've had a few Ladies do this for me. (2 within the past 4 days). Part of my Christmas gifts from them.
The lady who has done this most often for me gives me the cash. Say $150. If it is for 1 hour.
I give this to the receptionist.
At the end of the Shift, the Lady gets $100 back from the boss.
So it is only costing her $50.
But if she loses an hour with another customer due to the extra time that she spends with me, then it is costing her $100.
I never expect or ask the Lady to pay for me, so it is always a great surprise and a good indication that she likes me.
I should add that I spend a lot of money with these ladies and it could be a good business move on their part.
I might be fooling myself but I don't think so with these ladies.
They have shown me in many other ways that we have good "Connections"

[cuteguy]

...

I think Thai women have it in their nature to be more giving than most.

An Asian friend who has Thai friends told me that Thai women always want something in return. For them, nothing is for free these days unless they need something badly which might be PR.

[kezza]

An Asian friend who has Thai friends told me that Thai women always want something in return. For them, nothing is for free these days unless they need something badly which might be PR.
I know Thai women.. they don't always want something in return. People are just people, the good, bad and ugly exist within all nationalities..it's just unfortunate your friend hasn't experienced a lot of the good

[wilisno]

I know Thai women.. they don't always want something in return. People are just people, the good, bad and ugly exist within all nationalities..it's just unfortunate your friend hasn't experienced a lot of the good

Well said !

[Gregorious]

I know Thai women.. they don't always want something in return. People are just people, the good, bad and ugly exist within all nationalities..it's just unfortunate your friend hasn't experienced a lot of the good

It's easy to think this.

But sometimes people enjoy being treated nicely and with some respect. It also help when you make a session so good in the bed they want more just to feel good.

I blame it all on my mouth. What can I say... my oral skills get me everywhere

[aussiegaigin]

Haha well I love how transparent the M/L I've started to be a regular of is, whilst we're half way through the massage which by now is more like lying around naked together she mentions an item for her flat that she wants & by the end of the last session is practically making a deal with me that if I buy her this then I can deliver it to her apartment where she'll give me a private session! Haha I fucken laughed, do I look that stupid!??? I guess they just try until they score, oh yeah & I also got the I really like you + her number hahaha such a classic girl!!

You never know. One of my regular MLs a couple of years ago asked me if I could help her with some furniture. I didn't have to buy it, just help her pick it up from the shop and assemble it, and she would take me out for dinner. Being a nice guy I agreed to help her, guess where I ended up dining.

[James_jones]

You no longer pay and she initiates.

[Babycat]

You never know. One of my regular MLs a couple of years ago asked me if I could help her with some furniture. I didn't have to buy it, just help her pick it up from the shop and assemble it, and she would take me out for dinner. Being a nice guy I agreed to help her, guess where I ended up dining.
One of my colleagues told me that she's been moving house several times but never had to pay for moving as she always can ask some guys to help her. I've just done my moving before Xmas without asking help from any guy as I really didn't want to owe them nor let them know where I live even though I know some of them are happy to help me. They might want something in exchange that I rather paid than asking for help. Luckily I have one friend who has a van and he helped me with moving. Decided to pay him but he refused to get it as I've helped him a lot with studying. Fair enough.

[Punterman]

It's easy to think this.

But sometimes people enjoy being treated nicely and with some respect. It also help when you make a session so good in the bed they want more just to feel good.

I blame it all on my mouth. What can I say... my oral skills get me everywhere

I also prize myself on my DATY skills. I can get most ladies to orgasm and I like to think that mainly it is a nice treat for them and improves the session for them.

[aussiegaigin]

You no longer pay and she initiates.

No, it was a one off deal; I still pay for my sessions at the normal rate, like it never happened.

[Babycat]

any of the following are good indicators:
* they text often you about non-sex things
* they see you outside of work
* bbfs
Haha yes, women like texting.

[Travelmate]

Haha yes, women like texting.

because they are always busy
because too many contacts
need to use WECHAT or LINE to communicate

[wilisno]

because they are always busy
because too many contacts
need to use WECHAT or LINE to communicate
Is that why you're always texting ? ;) ;) ;)

[James_jones]

No, it was a one off deal; I still pay for my sessions at the normal rate, like it never happened.

Sorry that was not a reply to you. It is how I would gauge if someone I have previously paid "likes" me.

I don't think bbfs is an indication of "liking" someone - more a way to get repeat customers. Similar to how some girls offer bbbj to "good customers" after 2-3 sessions. In my mind this is even more true when it is telegraphed via review sites - guys think/know they will get additional service after a few punts and if not.. well it is a punt right? Maybe these services would be withheld for specifically obnoxious guys or ones with poor hygiene, but overall that is a business move.

The only way is if money is taken out of the equation. This also true if you help a girl outside of her usual setting (eg moving) and she then hooks up with you after. This is hardly an indication of "liking" someone in the manner this thread means, or assume to mean. She might ask you because she thinks you are more palatable than other clients but at the end of the day it is a transaction. I have done this a number of times but not deluded myself into thinking there is more there.

If you hang out and still pay for anything more than hanging out.. she is just leading you on :)

[Raybo]

My regular girl sent me christmas text and photos of what she bought at the Boxing day sales. Other than that we text each other during the week. We are planning to stay together overnight but finding the time is difficult.

[cassius]

Sometimes it means she doesn't want to see you in the shop because she wants you as a lover, but doesn't want to see you outside because it's too confusing to have a lover and be working. such is life :)

[garfield]

Sometimes it means she doesn't want to see you in the shop because she wants you as a lover, but doesn't want to see you outside because it's too confusing to have a lover and be working. such is life :)

This is very true.

[Babycat]

Sometimes it means she doesn't want to see you in the shop because she wants you as a lover, but doesn't want to see you outside because it's too confusing to have a lover and be working. such is life :)
True. Or she's already acted so deep with the best gfe so feels awkward to ask for money when the guys forget to pay or want to go out with her but she doesn't want that relationship, :)

If a girl doesn't like you, her reaction actually is very simple. Not much cares and passion. No jealous. But if she likes you, her expression is very complicated that might make you get confused. It's hard for a ml if she has feeling with a punter, especially not just a random punter but a professional one and she tries to detox herself.

[garfield]

True. Or she's already acted so deep with the best gfe so feels awkward to ask for money when the guys forget to pay or want to go out with her but she doesn't want that relationship, :)

If a girl doesn't like you, her reaction actually is very simple. Not much cares and passion. No jealous. But if she likes you, her expression is very complicated that might make you get confused. It's hard for a ml if she has feeling with a punter, especially not just a random punter but a professional one and she tries to detox herself.

So how do you handle her when she's becomes so complicated toward you?

[Travelmate]

Is that why you're always texting ? ;) ;) ;)

How do you know??

[Babycat]

So how do you handle her when she's becomes so complicated toward you?
First, I don't know the solution
Second, I shouldn't give a trick to against my people, lol

[garfield]

First, I don't know the solution
Second, I shouldn't give a trick to against my people, lol

I'm not asking for a trick, only genuine way to deal with her anxiety and dealing with her feelings.

[Babycat]

I'm not asking for a trick, only genuine way to deal with her anxiety and dealing with her feelings.
Then talk with her more. Give more attention even though she gets angry and tries to push you away.

[garfield]

Then talk with her more. Give more attention even though she gets angry and tries to push you away.

Thanks for tge advise.

[opimrs]

When she wants to spend time with you without benefit loss.
And when she wants you spend time with her.
Beautifully put Babycat. Whereas us punters fantasise about a free fuck, or BBFS, it just shows that it's the simple act of spending time with someone you like that demonstrates a true measure of affection. Thank you for putting a nice perspective on things.

[handcockJ]

Offers you BBFS after you've made her squirt.. YMMV.. sadly no longer works at my fav Massage Shop

[Mawskode]

She books tickets for both you and her to go on a cruise around Vanuatu for two weeks.

Failing that, a strong indicator is if she wants to get to know you and enjoys sharing more intimate details about herself. Girl I was visiting regularly a couple of years ago eventually gave me her Facebook and we went out on the town a couple of times and I showed her around some good spots in Sydney. They're also humans with feelings and shit.

[vtori1213]

You no longer pay and she initiates.
I think this is most correct.

[Raybo]

You call her by her real name and not her shop name.

[AHLUNGOR]

You call her by her real name and not her shop name.

There had only ever been four ladies whom I knew their real names ! Coincidentally, they were all mamasans !

[garfield]

There had only ever been four ladies whom I knew their real names ! Coincidentally, they were all mamasans !

When you are in a relationship of some sort with the ML, you will know their real name

[AHLUNGOR]

When you are in a relationship of some sort with the ML, you will know their real name

No relationships , just friendships !

[TallyHo]

No relationships , just friendships !

Nothing significant about knowing a ML's real name.

[AHLUNGOR]

Nothing significant about knowing a ML's real name.

No nothing special at all, it was just a reply to another members comment .

[garfield]

No relationships , just friendships !

Friendship is a type of relationship.

[Babycat]

No relationships , just friendships !

You broke my hope, Uncle, :(

[pooh10]

I having been seeing this one ML and she always offer to cook and bring food for me on my next visit...just have to inform her one day in advance. That is definitely one way to know that you have scored a good point.

[ksteve_m28]

I having been seeing this one ML and she always offer to cook and bring food for me on my next visit...just have to inform her one day in advance. That is definitely one way to know that you have scored a good point.

Once, i went dinner with her....she insist she is buying... so who am i to argue for it.. finish dinner. I asked.."see you again next week at shop"..her replies..."yes..but also dinner again later"... that was 6 months ago.. now mostly i see her outside shop...

[AHLUNGOR]

You broke my hope, Uncle, :(


You want a relationship?

[Babycat]

You want a relationship?

Yes, Uncle. I hope it works.

[AHLUNGOR]

Yes, Uncle. I hope it works.


Never have any long term relationship with boys you met at a massage shop. It will not work !

Best to date people outside and never tell !

Good luck

[garfield]

Never have any long term relationship with boys you met at a massage shop. It will not work !

Best to date people outside and never tell !

Good luck
This may be the majority case, but not absolute, I've seen others have worked for them.

[ksteve_m28]

Never have any long term relationship with boys you met at a massage shop. It will not work !

Best to date people outside and never tell !

Good luck

There are jerks and gold diggers in every industry ...every profession..
I pretty sure, there are some great love story anywhere any situation...
Massage shop might be seen as a lust place but also a place where some single man feeling vulnerable for someone to care for them even a paid one...a sincere and honest love can be find, when both care for each other.

[AHLUNGOR]

This may be the majority case, but not absolute, I've seen others have worked for them.

There is no absolute in any case , of course there are fairy tales and happy ending just like Julia Roberts and Richard Gere!

As hard as it is to win lotto, there are millions who invested every week , and of course there are always winners. Just the odds are not always favouring you. And most people never win in their life time .

No right or wrong answer here, it's just my personal advice to Babycat whom I know is a lovely young lady .

Cheers

[DemonHarry]

She books tickets for both you and her to go on a cruise around Vanuatu for two weeks.

Failing that, a strong indicator is if she wants to get to know you and enjoys sharing more intimate details about herself. Girl I was visiting regularly a couple of years ago eventually gave me her Facebook and we went out on the town a couple of times and I showed her around some good spots in Sydney. They're also humans with feelings and shit.

Well put...especially the "shit". Takes emotional strength to work through the shit that continually comes up.

[DemonHarry]

No relationships , just friendships !

Ha ha... I think this rule only applies if you're married, Ahlungor.

[sukeong]

Never have any long term relationship with boys you met at a massage shop. It will not work !

Best to date people outside and never tell !

Good luck

Tend to agree with this advice. Even had one ML confided in me recently she wants to quit soon to find a bf lol. She said she can't have one while working as her bf would get suspicious. Moreover she does not want to find someone from customer base. Seem to think most Asian guys won't accept girls who worked in massage shops anyway. She also definite don't want to find non Asian. Weirdly she also mentioned she won't mind if her bf been to these shops before but her bf must never find out she worked as ML before. She is young slim, attractive and in uni, would rate at least an 8. definitely won't have a hard time finding a bf if she wishes. Told me in confidence so cannot reveal her identity.

[beta101]

bro share some mls who are solid 7 and above

kinda of sick paying for very average lookings mls

thanks :D

[boater]

Never have any long term relationship with boys you met at a massage shop. It will not work !

Best to date people outside and never tell !

Good luck

Well, I would generally agree that it is for the "best" that you don't let someone you are in a relationship with know any secret you are desperate to keep from your family. Relationships have a tendency to end, maybe after a few weeks, maybe after a few years, but most do end. Sad but true. That ending can be hurtful and folks can say stuff, and reveal stuff, out of hurt and anger that they would never have thought they can say.

Over time you may get to know someone well enough you know you can trust them with your big secret, but someone you have met in a parlour already knows that secret, and you can't possibly know them well enough to know they can be trusted with it when when hurt and stressed.

That said, it is possible to have a good, loving relationship with someone while you are a sex worker and for that relationship to prosper even while you are working and your partner knowing about it.

Sex (or 'extras' in a massage parlour) with someone who is paying you is just something you do, it is not emotional like being with your partner.

How do I know? Because for several years I was that "someone" for a lady who worked in a brothel, and while the relationship had its ups and downs, it was on a whole, simply magnificent.

Bottom line: If you date someone who does not know of this part of your life, then you have the choice about telling him at some point. If you date someone who you met through that work, that choice to tell or not to tell is gone.

As to the original question:
When they chose to spend time with you and nothing is expected in return. And no, I am not talking about sex - just ordinary things.

[A44]

You know that a WL really likes you. (At least for an hour or two).
When she is slow dancing with you, arms around your neck, gazing into your eyes and singing a love song.

[James_jones]

then you have the choice about telling him at some point.

No. You have the choice to tell them within a reasonable time frame or never tell their guy. It is not reasonable to keep this on the down low for a long time period and then bring it out, not if it is a "real" relationship.

Given how women in general behave it is not a good idea to date one long term and if you happen to date one without knowing her history in this regard then you are likely to get bent over at some point.

1. She tells you then busts it out at some point later to rub in your face during an argument.

2. She does not tell you and does the same thing.

Both nuclear options, both totally on the table during arguments for chicks. Bill Burr sums it up here.


https://youtu.be/rksKvZoUCPQ?t=10m13s

Would they all do this? I would not risk AWALT with a known variable like this. Same as ditching ones that ride the cc too long.

[michaele]

in my early days of punting i came across one that i was seeing for months and months we did everything gifts, cards,etc when it came down to me seeing her finally at her place she disappeared.......they are fickle...........

[rooter]

in my early days of punting i came across one that i was seeing for months and months we did everything gifts, cards,etc when it came down to me seeing her finally at her place she disappeared.......they are fickle...........
yes women are fickle ... take it away Pav ... you fat bastard ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRDjFiV_38

[rooter]

Sati is the ultimate test of if a girl genuinely likes you.
Jigai is right up there too.

[magicman]

Sati is the ultimate test of if a girl genuinely likes you.
Jigai is right up there too.

i think that defeats the purpose though :shout:

[GT101]

I always try to make sure that the girl has a good time as well.

There have been a few instances where, I know they had a good time and when they say "come back to visit me again", I know they really meant it as the farewell kiss and cuddle was special.

There was one girl who after the session tried to give me some money and asked if I would wait for her after her shift. That was very different!, and I knew we clicked.

GT

[AHLUNGOR]

Sati is the ultimate test of if a girl genuinely likes you.
Jigai is right up there too.

Please explain !

[tontnam]

True, there are no absolutes and you can't just make sweeping generalisations like that based on one's own limited experience and observations, no matter how old you are.

Also, to say "Best to date people outside and never tell" means encouraging the ML or WL to passively lie to their future partner about their past. If you're withholding some secret about your past that you are either embarrassed about or worried might negatively impact the way your partner sees you, then you'll always know your relationship is built on deception, rather than honesty and trust. Is this then the only kind of relationship a WL or ML can hope for?

i agree, its a very sweeping statement. ive fucked 500 to 1000 times i think, and its probably 200 to 300 girls. for whatever reason that i did it, it scares me that this may haunt me with a normal girl, i actually am of the view that it might be easier if a punter and ml/wl hook up, come clean with each other, because this type of thing may not be palatable to others.

[garfield]

i agree, its a very sweeping statement. ive fucked 500 to 1000 times i think, and its probably 200 to 300 girls. for whatever reason that i did it, it scares me that this may haunt me with a normal girl, i actually am of the view that it might be easier if a punter and ml/wl hook up, come clean with each other, because this type of thing may not be palatable to others.

Isn't a punter and WL/ML a perfect match in heaven?

[otokosg]

Isn't a punter and WL/ML a perfect match in heaven?

i agree. but the wl/ml could(or probably?) view it differently. my limited exp suggest most ml/wl want to forget that past some day.

[tontnam]

I agree that they want to forget. I also would like to forget that ive been a punter when the time is right with the right girl. How to hide this past. Its going to be found out somehow by those who have interest to (ie ones wife or future wife). to keep such a secret from ones spouse over the long term is not possible. It will come up. Better that it be accepted prior to establishment of long term relationship. That's my opinion anyway.

[nomoney3]

P2P = Pay to play
Best to play and forget :smile: