Buying A Poorly Run Brothel

[Ted Hunter]

So many brothels are poorly run but have great potential because of their location.
Anyone know what's involved in buying an existing brothel and how much they would be worth...?

[CunningLinguist]

So many brothels are poorly run but have great potential because of their location.
Anyone know what's involved in buying an existing brothel and how much they would be worth...?

Sounds like it would be a lot of Fucking trouble :)

Seriously unless you know how to deal with the girls and get good girls you should stay well away.
I'm willing to bet you have no idea :)

[Ted Hunter]

A good business owner employs the right people to help run a business.Ive run successful businesses before.Christmas or Babycat or someone with similar expertise would no doubt be required

[CunningLinguist]

A good business owner employs the right people to help run a business.Ive run successful businesses before.Christmas or Babycat or someone with similar expertise would no doubt be required

You make it sound so easy :)

[Ted Hunter]

I'm not naive.
Running a business is littered with potholes.Look at the business models of the better run brothels.The right girls paid well and treated well.Clean and modern decor.Honesty in advertising.Showers in each room.A competent and service oriented Reception.Act on fair and reasonable complaints.Correct price point for services offered. Good marketing and finding a point of differentiation .
Certainly requires a lot of thought

[Ted Hunter]

Manageable size of the Roster
Managing peak and trough periods
Reliability of the girls
Girls on Reserve in case of no show or sickness
Compulsory Health checks
Number and Size of Rooms
Belligerent punters
Fixed costs
Proximity of competition
Split between the house and the girl
Own or rent the premises
Public Risk insurance
Tax
Just kicking this around.

[Alex T Bear]

So many brothels are poorly run but have great potential because of their location.
Anyone know what's involved in buying an existing brothel and how much they would be worth...?

There are two components to the value of a business: the asset value and goodwill value. Assets are easy to value, goodwill is more difficult to determine. PM me if you want more information

[Ted Hunter]

Thanks Alex....

[Christmas]

Well i want one too. if only i have someone in Korea or Japan who can send top quality girl (at least 9/10) regularly, once a week maybe once a two week?

[local]

I have had the unfortunate experience of being called into 2 country brothels by their owner/groups to investigate poor performance.

In both cases the real cause of issue was the poor talent and poor attitude of the actual workers.
Christmas is correct about supply.
Cross town/area supply really does not work and the attitude of the mostly aussie workers stank.

In both case my advice was to try and find a suitable buyer, but in any case withdraw from the business be it closure or sale asap.

These occurred several years ago. I don't believe the "asian" factor would make things any different today.

[CunningLinguist]

I reckon to run a profitable brothel or massage shop you need to be very good in "street psychology', ie. not a uni course but hands on dealing with girls, suppliers, punters, and other people I wont mention ...
If you have an MBA or have run a large company it won't help you.

[Bigtitlover]

I reckon to run a profitable brothel or massage shop you need to be very good in "street psychology', ie. not a uni course but hands on dealing with girls, suppliers, punters, and other people I wont mention ...
If you have an MBA or have run a large company it won't help you.

Couldnt agree more!!

[Ted Hunter]

Agreed.
I wondered about the "other people I won't mention"
Certain areas could be a closed shop

[wilisno]

So many brothels are poorly run but have great potential because of their location.
Anyone know what's involved in buying an existing brothel and how much they would be worth...?

What's involved ? Money !

If you think it has potential, then it's up to you to work out what it's worth. From $50000 to millions.

Tiffany was sold for 8 millions dollars ten years ago.

[Ted Hunter]

Tiffanys is very well run and has been around for over 30 yrs..I can think of 3 or 4 that would be worth key money only

[Lenka_X5]

The Asian market is already packed from low tier, middle and top. If you try to battle Ginza, 5 Star, 533, 64, Rockdale/Marrickville/Gladesville it will be tough.

Great opportunity for Eastern European girls to come over here and do DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM. This market is wide open. But you need trusted supplier from Russia, Ukraine, Czech Republic...

Good luck OP!

[CunningLinguist]

I reckon there is a market for an Ebony version of Ginza!

[cuteguy]

I reckon there is a market for an Ebony version of Ginza!

I'm sure there would be a market for Eastern European girls rather than Ebony. Those European girls are hot looking and can be wild in bed.:smile:

[CunningLinguist]

I'm sure there would be a market for Eastern European girls rather than Ebony. Those European girls are hot looking and can be wild in bed.:smile:

Nah, once you go black you never go back,or so they say :)
Eastern europeans do nuthin for me.

[Fisher]

I'm sure there would be a market for Eastern European girls rather than Ebony. Those European girls are hot looking and can be wild in bed.:smile:

Have you ever been with a ebony girl?
In my top ten there is 4 ebony girls 2 wls and 2 fuck buddies i have.
Euro girls would have a certain appeal but there is plenty of caucasian workers already.
The ebony market is very limited at the moment.

[cuteguy]

Have you ever been with a ebony girl?
In my top ten there is 4 ebony girls 2 wls and 2 fuck buddies i have.
Euro girls would have a certain appeal but there is plenty of caucasian workers already.
The ebony market is very limited at the moment.

Sorry guys but Ebony girls don't do anything for me.

[Ted Hunter]

Just love how these threads drift

[androc]

I imagine the key skill is finding good staff. The rest would follow.
But that is easier said than done

[cleetusvandamme]

From what I understand, the reason Wilson and Suki work so many hours at Ginza is because they can't rely on hired staff to maintain the same level of customer service so it seems like that's one of the major obstacles (apart from having connections to find the right girls).
An ebony Ginza would be amazing though.

[Littlewonder]

If you want to get in the business then the first thing is to decide what market or clientele you want to attract and what price range.

Asian girls like it or not provide the best service at the lowest price.

The lower priced shops provide in most cases older ladies and the facilities in most cases are of a lower standard.

Even private girls non Asian are usually more expensive than Asian and again young girls are usually more expensive than more mature ladies.

If you go for a cheaper Asian shop then you have to manage differently to a more up market shop if you want to be succesfull.

I don't think it's as easy as some people think and if you go the Asian way you need to speak the laungauge a nd have a source to supply the girls

[Ted Hunter]

Misty's in Newtown has an interesting model....And is always busy....Mainly young female travellers....Great surroundings and an excellent price point for what is offered

[CunningLinguist]

From what I understand, the reason Wilson and Suki work so many hours at Ginza is because they can't rely on hired staff to maintain the same level of customer service so it seems like that's one of the major obstacles (apart from having connections to find the right girls).
An ebony Ginza would be amazing though.

Bang on the money dude!
If we all wish for an ebony Ginza it WILL happen ... :)

[cleetusvandamme]

Bang on the money dude!
If we all wish for an ebony Ginza it WILL happen ... :)

Consider this your market research Ted Hunter! You can thank us later with free vouchers or whatever.
Good luck dude!

[eltran]

I doubt a shop with black girls will work. You will find it hard to find enough workers, it will be hard to import them and you'll probably have issues with racism reducing your client base (which might involve fears regarding things like AIDS/HIV). The involved costs will require you to compete with high end shops, and thus require ginza level service which is already hard to find with Asian girls who can easily come to Australia.

[Pussyhands]

Damn street psychology sounds ghetto

It's prob like having experience applying psych concepts on day to day life

Getting a degree and unable to apply it in the proper places is useless - I agree

[Pussyhands]

Point about price difference

True that Asians tend to be cheaper, but in my opinion they only 50 or so dollars cheaper. In the mid to high tier range.
It's almost negligible but the most important factor is prob standard bbbj offered and better service? I don't know

At the higher end of 400/450+++ there is no diff in Asian and Caucasian ladies.

The real battle is that mid to high range services - the 300 +/- price range where the sweet spots at

[androc]

I disagree. The sweet spot in Sydney is around $200-250 imho. Higher in other cities.

[shootermcgavin]

I disagree. The sweet spot in Sydney is around $200-250 imho. Higher in other cities.

I tend to agree. $250, standardised service (LFK at the minimum, BBBJ, two shots on goal for an hour booking) and you'd have a gold mine, especially if as the other bro's have said you were able to get some Ebony and Cauc girls.

Gotta get a catchy name too! Ginza rolls off the tongue and suggests exclusivity and class like the area. Maybe "Uncle Ted's Pussy Shack" or something like that?

[CunningLinguist]

I tend to agree. $250, standardised service (LFK at the minimum, BBBJ, two shots on goal for an hour booking) and you'd have a gold mine, especially if as the other bro's have said you were able to get some Ebony and Cauc girls.

Gotta get a catchy name too! Ginza rolls off the tongue and suggests exclusivity and class like the area. Maybe "Uncle Ted's Pussy Shack" or something like that?

Harlem harlots :)

[shootermcgavin]

Harlem harlots :)

Whoa.........thats gold!

[Raybo]

No need to worry about a catchy name. It will eventually be referred to street number/street name or suburb

[rooter]

A shop that specialized in Cuban girls would be great.
That mix of Black and Latina is awesome!
Well, actually I would settle for Puerto Rican, Dominican etc too.
The girls in this video by Lil' Wayne , Justin Bieber etc is what I'm talking about.
it's a pretty average song, but the chicks are hot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeI1G46q0o

[kingqxxx]

I always wonder in you have to deal with the undergrounds when starting this line of business. Keen to listen if someone can enlight me

[wilisno]

I always wonder in you have to deal with the undergrounds when starting this line of business. Keen to listen if someone can enlight me

If someone has some real knowledge about this, he won't be talking here ! ;) ;) ;)

[Shoryureppa]

Do brothel owners bang their own girls at a discount?

[kingqxxx]

Why not. it is all anonymous anyway. I wouldnt know who you guys are even if I am stering at your face

[kingqxxx]

Call it a test drive. It's all in the contract mate. Lol.

[harrycd]

12 greenacre is listed as being for sale on its site.

Let's all go in on a co-op / timeshare lol

[CunningLinguist]

Do brothel owners bang their own girls at a discount?

Yamada used to boast about doing it when TMC was still operating.

[babelx]

Where would you find desperate Asian girls? You will need good contacts in China to import them regularly as there will be a fair amount of turn around. Dealing with cat fights will also be a good skill.

[kingqxxx]

Cat fight over what? That's an aspect I never understand. Customer comes, they do business then they go.

[AHLUNGOR]

Where would you find desperate Asian girls? You will need good contacts in China to import them regularly as there will be a fair amount of turn around. Dealing with cat fights will also be a good skill.

Well said ！

Supply chain is the key to success in this business, of course you can recruit locally but rather than circulating the run down or jaded wls, nothing beats fresh girls from overseas who may just do a 3 months short tour and earn quick cash and these are probably the lot who will give good services for more business as they know their window of earning is limited .

Just a thought .

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Cat fight over what? That's an aspect I never understand. Customer comes, they do business then they go.

That would be cat fights between WLs, happens all the times !

[CunningLinguist]

Cat fight over what? That's an aspect I never understand. Customer comes, they do business then they go.

put a bunch of chicks together and there will always be cat fights

[androc]

Why cat fights ?

[cuteguy]

Why cat fights ?

If there are many girls in the shop and a few customers coming in, there will be cat fights. They want money and don't want to waste their precious time sitting around and watching other girls being busy. I've heard from some WLs how they talk behind each other's back and they are not always on good terms. You get it everywhere.

[CunningLinguist]

Why cat fights ?

It is a chick thing dude ....

[babelx]

of course you can recruit locally but rather than circulating the run down or jaded wls, nothing beats fresh girls from overseas who may just do a 3 months short tour and earn quick cash and these are probably the lot who will give good services for more business as they know their window of earning is limited .

Yes, I am guessing this is what happens with some of the good service shops. The owner will tell the girls that BBBJ, etc etc are standard and you will not earn much if you don't provide these services or customers complain etc. You need to able to create a culture that sustains this. It's all about psychology but for some people, this will come naturally.

[hornedone]

Blacks need to be monitored carefully for hygiene. Eastern European sounds more profitable ass.

[CunningLinguist]

Blacks need to be monitored carefully for hygiene..

Why ?

[eltran]

If they come from Africa then STD's are rampant.