2013 Diary

[altgourami]

I am keeping a 2013 diary. I am amazed at the time and money I am wasting. And I've slowed down this year.

I encourage others to keep and post their diary too.

Use this thread in the following format:

Sessions (FS, RNT, freebies)
Number of girls (do not count girls twice - if you see the same girl multiple times during the year it counts as 1 girl)
Total hours
Total cash (including tips)

Include your fuck buddies, wives and girlfriends as 'freebies' - zero cost sessions.

I wonder how many of us will have blown a house deposit or a new BMW by the end of the year?

[altgourami]

Month - January 2013
Sessions - 13 (YTD 13)
Girls - 8 (YTD 8)
Hours - 15.75 (YTD 15.75)
Cash - $1,210 (YTD $1,210)

[AHLUNGOR]

Haha

So apart from our annual tax return we now need to do an annual fucks recall!

Good one

Cheers

Ps may be the WL/ML should do one too!!

老舉埋年結，算撚數！

[kickass]

I'd spend about the same amount but only see 5-8 girls.

[Sextus]

Month - January 2013
Sessions - 13 (YTD 13)
Girls - 8 (YTD 8)
Hours - 15.75 (YTD 15.75)
Cash - $1,210 (YTD $1,210)


If you keep that up it is $15, 270 p.a. after tax.

Pre-tax, maybe $20,000 p.a.

No wonder - I - just - can't - afford - brand - girls.

If I wanted to keep punting as often as I like to punt, they would absolutely punish me over a year. Even the sex would be diminished in my memory by the financial hangover.

[jellyshots]

My tally for Jan was $3710 with 5 girls but stopped punting for now. Since August the total is only about $6000.

[Cracker38]

Wonder what Craig Thompson's diary would show?

[rooter]

I have had a pretty big week.
3 x TMC girls
4 x Ginza girls.
1 x 501 R & T
around $1700 all up. And worth every cent.

[jackstar]

I have had a pretty big week.
3 x TMC girls
4 x Ginza girls.
1 x 501 R & T
around $1700 all up. And worth every cent.

fuck me u blokes know how to make a fellow male feel like a pleb!!!!!!!!!

[jellyshots]

Doesn't take long to rack up if you try a gold class Ginza girl or a Bluemoon girl. And like rooter says, worth every cent.

[Travelmate]

every brother have a different budget, as long as you feel happy.
This is the main thing

[Cracker38]

So what happens if your partner was to stumble across your online diary of monthly escapades? Perfect ammo to take u to the cleaners

[rooter]

Doesn't take long to rack up if you try a gold class Ginza girl or a Bluemoon girl. And like rooter says, worth every cent.

I have used this quote before but it sums up my attitude to life so I will use it again.
It's from Georgie Best who for the benefit of you young blokes was an Irish and Man U football legend way back I'm the day:
"I spent 90% of my money on fast cars, booze, and women; the rest I wasted"

[Sextus]

I have had a pretty big week.
3 x TMC girls
4 x Ginza girls.
1 x 501 R & T
around $1700 all up. And worth every cent.

I always think in p.a. terms.

So if you kept that up it is

$88,400 p.a

of after tax money.

But that was a big week, so allowing for other big weeks and quieter times that would still be half that, or

$44,200 p.a.

or $850 pw

after tax.

If I decided to have no savings for the year, after my fixed expenses, I could manage maybe

$300 p.w.

or about 2 hours pw at a cheap Asian knocking shop.

That is if I decided not to save!

You can see why Brand Girls, much as they are so, so nice, would put such a hole in my finances.

George Best or not!

[altgourami]

...and I thought i was starting to develop a problem.... sheesh!

[Littlewonder]

I am keeping a 2013 diary. I am amazed at the time and money I am wasting. And I've slowed down this year.

I encourage others to keep and post their diary too.

Use this thread in the following format:

Sessions (FS, RNT, freebies)
Number of girls (do not count girls twice - if you see the same girl multiple times during the year it counts as 1 girl)
Total hours
Total cash (including tips)

Include your fuck buddies, wives and girlfriends as 'freebies' - zero cost sessions.

I wonder how many of us will have blown a house deposit or a new BMW by the end of the year?

I have always kept a diary but the last thing I would do is post it on here?

Besides that their data base migh not be big enough if we all posted our diary on here.

What do you mean House deposit nearly buy the thing outright Ha Ha!

[guailo]

At the rate some bros are punting, a years worth may be enough for the deposit on a property and a few years worth may be enough to pay off the purchase price.

[altgourami]

Thankfully it seems I am not that bad. I can rest easy now. Carry on boys...

[Gucci2012]

I use this forum as a diary of sorts, my AR's are to help me reference where how and when I spent my entertainment money.

[wilisno]

I use this forum as a diary of sorts, my AR's are to help me reference where how and when I spent my entertainment money.
Well, AR's can't really serve as my diary, because there are so many return visits of the same girls and so many punts not worthy of reporting !

[Gucci2012]

Well, AR's can't really serve as my diary, because there are so many return visits of the same girls and so many punts not worthy of reporting !

Oh man I totally forgot about the dud punts I don't report, there's a fair bit of money there too...

[Sextus]

Six times a month is what I should stick to I've realised, thanks to your thread altgourami!

[Littlewonder]

Ar are not a diary as you can not write a report on your favourite every time you see her, and some times you do not write a report on a new girl for what ever reason.

[Gucci2012]

Ar are not a diary as you can not write a report on your favourite every time you see her, and some times you do not write a report on a new girl for what ever reason.

Your right, you can not write a report everytime you see your favourite...but my mind works differently from most, if I see my favourite I will usually go back yo my original AR and put a small post like "just spent another 2 hours with her, amazing" that's why I said i use it as a "diary of sorts.

Also in all my AR's I have hidden messages to myself, and to other members smart enough to know what I'm really talking about.

[cassius]

um ... the theory seems to
be that if you did not waste your money on girls, you could afford a BMW. But I thought the reason to own a BMW ( or please somethong cooler) was to attract girls. Am I missing something?

[wilisno]

um ... the theory seems to
be that if you did not waste your money on girls, you could afford a BMW. But I thought the reason to own a BMW ( or please somethong cooler) was to attract girls. Am I missing something?

Haha, good point !

[altgourami]

Month - February 2013
Sessions - 12 (YTD 25)
New Girls - 1 (YTD 9)
Hours - 15 (YTD 30.75)
Cash - $785 (YTD $1,995)

[AHLUNGOR]

Month - February 2013
Sessions - 12 (YTD 25)
New Girls - 1 (YTD 9)
Hours - 15 (YTD 30.75)
Cash - $785 (YTD $1,995)

Nice job brother for keeping a punting diary.

Just curious, you spent only $785 for 15 hours, the hourly cost is only $52.33 so that didn't give you too many options.

Off the top of my head you could go to (or the only place you could have on that budget !) 501 Newtown to have 14 x 1 hr session @$50/hr = $700 which left you with $85 for the remaining hour.

You poor thing, you must be very hungry for tits and pussies, as $50/hr ain't gonna get you much apart from the free HJ

Just my two cents

Cheers

[altgourami]

Includes freebies and RNT so the average cost per hour isn't indicative of the girls I see. Also I punt on North Shore. Farthest I go is the City except for the odd Gillardesque trip to the West.

[AHLUNGOR]

Includes freebies and RNT so the average cost per hour isn't indicative of the girls I see. Also I punt on North Shore. Farthest I go is the City except for the odd Gillardesque trip to the West.

There must be a lot of freebies then, I envy you brother, I would love to pay for one punt every week and then get two more for nothing...............lol

Some people have all the luck and/or connections. Dream on for the rest of us !!

Cheers.

:cool2:

[Littlewonder]

um ... the theory seems to
be that if you did not waste your money on girls, you could afford a BMW. But I thought the reason to own a BMW ( or please somethong cooler) was to attract girls. Am I missing something?

No your not missing a thing either way they cost you money!

[altgourami]

Month - March 2013

Sessions - 5 (YTD 30)
New Girls - 0 (YTD 9)
Hours - 4 (YTD 34.75)
Cash - $260 (YTD $2,255)

Comment - getting the addiction under control (at last) although early April has seen a few new girls enter my orbit

[Sextus]

Your ytd spend of $2,255
divided by your ytd number of hours punting of 34.75
= $64 per hour!!

Wow, where do you go?

[altgourami]

Includes a lot of freebies. I have three fuck buddies.

[Sextus]

Includes a lot of freebies. I have three fuck buddies.

altgourami, can I ask exactly what a "fuckbuddy" is? Women aren't like men - they always need to be in relationships to give sex. There are no doubt one night stands amongst nightclubbers, but a woman, or a group of women in your case, all single, that don't want to be wined and dined, that don't want any dates, that don't want anything, and you just simply make a phone call. And they are just hanging around, their relationship life on hold, their whole life on hold, waiting for someone to call and ask "Can I come around and fuck you?" ??? Umm, ???

I do know something similar to that situation though - and it is called a brothel.

[AHLUNGOR]

Your ytd spend of $2,255
divided by your ytd number of hours punting of 34.75
= $64 per hour!!

Wow, where do you go?

Haha, Brother Sextus,

I have asked exactly the same question last time:


Nice job brother for keeping a punting diary.

Just curious, you spent only $785 for 15 hours, the hourly cost is only $52.33 so that didn't give you too many options.

Off the top of my head you could go to (or the only place you could have on that budget !) 501 Newtown to have 14 x 1 hr session @$50/hr = $700 which left you with $85 for the remaining hour.

You poor thing, you must be very hungry for tits and pussies, as $50/hr ain't gonna get you much apart from the free HJ

Just my two cents

Cheers


Well,. it seems he is a lucky dude and getting lots of freebies !!

I wish I could get some freebies from time to time too.............haha

But envy is a sin!!

Cheers

:smile:

[jellyshots]

Married women make pretty good booty calls. If guys are tapping WL's, their wives may be tapping someone on the side...

Didn't know we were including freebies though.

[Sextus]

Is it an online thing? I am dissuaded because at a brothel you can make the choice you want, but a wife caucasian boiler looking for something on the side? I'd rather fuck my chesterfield lounge.

[Sextus]

I have three fuck buddies.

I was just wondering what their life circumstances are? Do they fit the phenomenally rare description I outlined above?

Let me put it another way. Suppose you were gay. 98% of the gay blokes would be up for being fuckbuddies.

Suppose you weren't gay. What minute percentage of the sexually available female population would qualify for this??

Anyone want to estimate this and make my own point for me?

[jellyshots]

Is it an online thing? I am dissuaded because at a brothel you can make the choice you want, but a wife caucasian boiler looking for something on the side? I'd rather fuck my chesterfield lounge.

Not necessarily an online thing. When you're out on the pull, chat a few pairs up. One or both may be married or bf or whatever but they may give you their number anyway. Plenty of yoga/Pilates early 30's looking to test their downward dog :)

I wouldn't exactly call them boilers. And the Asian girls get into it as much as the Cauc girls do.

[Sextus]

Jellyshots,there is a point. An ex-girlfriend of mine teaches yoga, and she is always asking me to come to her classes!

[rooter]

Sextus you have raised the issue of your doubts as to whether female fuck buddies exist in any significant numbers.
I don't have scientific evidence only anecdotal and from personal experience; I know for a fact they are out there and plenty of them. I have had fuck buddies ranging in age from 19 to late 40s.
But since you are not paying for their services you have to be realistic.
So if for example you are in your 40s and not filthy rich you are not going to have hot 18-30yo girls lining up to be your fuck buddy. You are more likely to find a woman aged 35-50.
Sometimes you get lucky though and find a young girl with "daddy issues".
They are fine for a while but they can get very demanding after a while.

[jellyshots]

Jellyshots,there is a point. An ex-girlfriend of mine teaches yoga, and she is always asking me to come to her classes!

Hahaha! She may just want to show you that she's learnt some new skills. And you know, they always like to give beginners "adjustments". "How does this feel now?" ROFL...

[Sextus]

Thanks Jellyshots and Rooter for your help with this. I'm not a relationship kind of guy and I thought therefore sex came only in three ways:

1. A relationship (gf / wife)
2. WL's
3. No third way.

A single girl isn't likely to be a non-commitment ongoing fuckbuddy, say < 1% of those single.

Well, it is tough enough to get the other 99%, let alone the 1% invisibly located amongst them that might briefly qualify.

That leaves Jellyshots suggestion of those already in relationships and looking for something on the side. That does absolve you of the responsibility of maintaining a relationship, but I have nagging doubts that most all of them would be tattoed, sweaty, dumpy Casula trucking wives.

It makes a line up look like paradise!

[Sextus]

So it goes like this:

(Ringtone, picks up phone, answers)

"Hello?"

"Ok I'm coming around. Get ready to open your legs."

"Oh, ok"

(Upon Leaving) "I'll be back in a day or two, or maybe not, whenever I feel like it basically. Don't expect to hear from me."

"Oh, ok"

Ummm, ?????

[Sextus]

That would explain it Animus. I didn't realise fuckbuddies were so common up to now. They are all merely girls all the girls gagging to be your girlfriend.

[jellyshots]

Of course they're common. How many women have said "just want to be friends". Non-committal, right? Well turn it into "friends with benefits".

Your female friends are going to bitch to you about everything they dislike. You should be the guy that can give them that shoulder rub to make all the stress go away. Which leads to flirting, which leads to kissing and more often than not, sex.

And it only gets complicated if you do string them along. If they know from the start it's just friends, then it transitions easily into FWB.

ML's make awesome FWB. The key is to not completely fuck with their income stream by not booking them if you're getting extra on the side. Throw the occasional booking in and play in house :)

[Sextus]

Of course they're common. How many women have said "just want to be friends".

and ML's make awesome FWB.

The only ones that ever said that to me Jellyshots were girlfriends breaking it off, and the words were just hollow shells. There would be hundreds, thousands, reading this that would have heard those very words, only in that context. (Or in fact said them themselves.)

But things are becoming clearer. The reason I could find no explanation or possiblity for a social reasoning for FB's to (practically) exist in outside society, is that they are to be found 99% in the industry, where fidelity has no relevance.

[Wayne]

with all due respects to jellyshots and rooter, I am sceptical about the ease of finding female fuckbuddies. Sure if one is super attractive, as I am sure our two esteemed forum friends are, then it would not be much of an issue. But for most of us vile beings, women want some form of payment, cash or kind, for opening their legs to us. Saying that though, I have had several ex-ladies of the night and a couple of young massage girls with, as rooter eloquently puts it, daddy issues, as fuckbuddies. In all cases, I had been a paying customer to them for ages before we fell into that relationship. In every case, these ladies eventually wanted a long term commitment from me. If you want my advice Sextus, and I am sure you hang out for it from an unknown keyboard warrior making obtuse Shakespearean allusions, your visits to six working girls a month is money better spent.

[cmk76]

Jellyshots,there is a point. An ex-girlfriend of mine teaches yoga, and she is always asking me to come to her classes!

Mate, what are you waiting for?! Yoga is one of the most mentally and fatigue cleansing exercises one can do to prepare for pleasurable intimacy afterwards. In the past, I have engaged in bikram yoga with an ex for an hour of sweat and stretch and pose. The shower afterwards was fucking amazing... literally fucking amazing! It took the raw carnal energy to a whole new level. Your body is already 'warmed' up and limbered and ready for absolutely any position you choose to put to the test. All the serotonin levels in your mind are heightened, not to mention your senses being increasingly receptive to touch, taste, smell and sight (a bit like having a 'toke' only natural... hehehe...)Try a session in winter before heading out for a punt, it will do wonders for your mind and body!

[rooter]

Fucking hell dont talk to me about Yoga !!!
I tried to do it to expand my conciousness, and be a more spiritual person ... OK I did it so I could suck my own cock too - you would think that 12 inches would be enough ! but i still couldn't reach ;)
So I enrol in this course, and it's full of HOT MILFS!!
There I am trying to cleanse my mind of all carnal and worldly thoughts and doing the "Salute to the Sun" and I am looking straight up the crack of a dozen HOT MILFS !! That wet sweat patch on the crotch of a HOT MILF gave me such a hard on I had to leave and have a wank in the nearest McDonalds toilet !! I even had to buy the fucking fries to use the toilet!!
Fucking Yoga!!

[Sextus]

Well yes, I think we agree there with Wayne. I never just say "I say this" I always say, why I say it too. I try to show the foundation for why I say it. In this case it was a puzzlement at what social situation existed where a sexually attractive girl in normal society would give herself away sexually for nothing. Men do this of course, but as I said - women are not men!

Rooter talks of young girls with daddy issues as an exception, but that still sounds like something that would be a lot of work, ie, time and money, to maintain. So they are outside the definition of FBs. And they'd still be shit rare anyway

The miracle of FB's is that none of the normal transactions are supposed to be in place. And I wasn't going to let all the casual references I read to FB's existing as anything but an exceptionally rare phenomenon go without mention.

But the good looks you mention are a payment, and the giving of them to others (via sex) forms a transaction, so that may tend to obscure from the notably good looking guys the common man's experience - which is in fact the reality - as you said! (I mean, I'm okayish, about 6.1 out of ten.)

In this case the girls needn't be in the sex industry, they can just be normal girls under a spell and trying to get to a relationship status with the guy, as Animus said. But the starting point is the guy's good looks. Another rare circumstance would be pop group groupies, these are definitely FB's, but again, needing very rare circumstances to exist.

And I was taking into consideration what Rooter and Jellyshots - and even altgouramie's silence - was telling me, and that is where these fabulous (in the fictitious sense) FB's were, for practical purposes, only existing in the sex / massage industry.

This accounts for the social circumstances that means the girl's life isn't in fact on hold. But outside of that - no.

[Sextus]

So I enrol in this course, and it's full of HOT MILFS!! Fucking Yoga!!

Well, maybe I should go to the classes she is urging me to attend. I'm lean enough already, but not very flexible for sure. At least you get to see lots of women shaped into pretzels first! My ex-gf might kick me out of her class if she detects what I might be up to though. She's got good radar. :question:

[cmk76]

Fucking hell dont talk to me about Yoga !!!
I tried to do it to expand my conciousness, and be a more spiritual person ... OK I did it so I could suck my own cock too - you would think that 12 inches would be enough ! but i still couldn't reach ;)
So I enrol in this course, and it's full of HOT MILFS!!
There I am trying to cleanse my mind of all carnal and worldly thoughts and doing the "Salute to the Sun" and I am looking straight up the crack of a dozen HOT MILFS !! That wet sweat patch on the crotch of a HOT MILF gave me such a hard on I had to leave and have a wank in the nearest McDonalds toilet !! I even had to buy the fucking fries to use the toilet!!
Fucking Yoga!!

Lol! That is pretty funny ... Ok, so I think the roomful of sweaty, toned bodies in short tights and sports bras 'may' have increased my sexual appetite with the ex, but after the first few session, my mind cleared and focused on my present self... therefore made the sexual experience so much more incredible with her and not fuelled by the images of the others!

[jellyshots]

And don't forget promiscuous. They've got these amazing toned bodies and husbands, bf's who just take them for granted.

Sextus, You're missing the real transaction. It's not looks, women want blokes to notice them, compliment them and make them laugh.

Female wingmen are invaluable to have. Especially if they lead a yoga class.

You could have your ex telling all the MILFs that you are a nice guy that needs a good woman to polish off the rough edges, LOL.

And Wayne, The stats you have are about right. I get a GF or FWB roughly one for every $6k I've spent punting and sometimes that's only a few freebies. But saying that, sometimes I'll burn through a few because the girls talk to their friends or coworkers.

[Sextus]

And don't forget promiscuous. They've got these amazing toned bodies and husbands, bf's who just take them for granted.

Sextus, You're missing the real transaction. It's not looks, women want blokes to notice them, compliment them and make them laugh.

Female wingmen are invaluable to have. Especially if they lead a yoga class.

You could have your ex telling all the MILFs that you are a nice guy that needs a good woman to polish off the rough edges, LOL.

That is all true and relevant! Maybe I could sit right up the back of the class pretending to do the fifth vega position or something, and cheat by not doing anything advanced at all but perving - which I need far less practice in than yoga. I get cramped just sitting cross legged, let alone trying......the flying eagle? Sounds painful!

[jellyshots]

Maybe you could kill 2 birds with one stone. Do the Town Hall to central perv on the way to a yoga perv. Personally, I think that Drummoyne Oval on a Sat morning is awesome for the ambiance of women in workout gear.

[altgourami]

Month - April 2013

Sessions - 12 (YTD 42)
New Girls - 4 (YTD 13)
Hours - 21.5 (YTD 56.25)
Cash - $2,440 (YTD $4,695)

Comment - A little crazy this month. Got a new FB and fruitlessly pursued a relatively inexperienced Korean WL. One step forward, two steps back.

[Takee]

Month - April 2013

Sessions - 12 (YTD 42)
New Girls - 4 (YTD 13)
Hours - 21.5 (YTD 56.25)
Cash - $2,440 (YTD $4,695)

Comment - A little crazy this month. Got a new FB and fruitlessly pursued a relatively inexperienced Korean WL. One step forward, two steps back.

Is the WL from Aqua :O?

[altgourami]

No. Haven't been to Aqua since Amy left.

[Punted-till-Munted]

Probably once every 2 or 3 weeks this year.

Cbf calculating money. But I do tip punts where I walk out a happy man.

[altgourami]

Month - May 2013

Sessions - 15 (YTD 57)
New Girls - 7 (YTD 20)
Hours - 12.5 (YTD 68.75)
Cash - $1,768 (YTD $6,463)

Comment - made a conscious effort to slow down this month but I don't think I succeeded too well. Bought a little red sports car in an effort to divert my hobby time to things more mechanical. Been enjoying freebies from a 23 yo Thai girl but she since went AWOL with her final word being: "I don't like you anymore. You will not marry me." Smart girl.

[rooter]

Comment - made a conscious effort to slow down this month but I don't think I succeeded too well. .
Clearly not !! ;)
It's OK bro, I am even worse than you. 5 sessions this week.
Keep up the good work!

[altgourami]

Month - June 2013

Sessions - 15 (YTD 72)
New Girls - 4 (YTD 24)
Hours - 18.5 (YTD 87.25)
Cash - $2,550 (YTD $9,013)

Comment - I've been punting for almost 8 years. I've kept a diary of pretty average punting (as it turns out) for 6 months. That makes the following average stats for my punting 'career':

Sessions - 1,152 - average 3 times per week, pretty average I'd say
New Girls - 384 - average 1 new girl per week in 8 years
Hours - 1,396 - about 3.5 hours per week - again, pretty average I'd say
Cash - $144,208 - wow

THis excludes non financial relationships.

My first reaction is that it's not as bad as all that. Pretty normal sex drive, all things considered.

My second reaction is FUCK! Almost $150k! But putting it into perspective, a pack-a-day smoker in today's dollars would have spent about half that driving themselves to an early death. And if they did the casino thing as well then... it's not so bad... still, it does seem like a huge waste of money.

Thus ends my diary. I'm not punting today, the last day of the month.

Fini

[rage_face]

It can be pretty disgusting when one is forced to look at the amount spent on punting. I am sure that anyone who has been punting for more than a year could've had used the money for a house deposit or a luxury car by now. However, most of us are in denial - when asked to think about the amount spent, we choose not to and just continue throwing it away.

The upcoming recession in Australia will bring many regrets.

[Sextus]

Thus ends my diary.

Fini

Please keep your diary going to the end of the year altgourami. It is a 2013 diary!

It isn't much trouble to note your expenditure and new girls and it is providiing a really good step back and look perspective.

At the end of the year there might, for example, be a seasonal change in your punting frequency - Summer vs Winter say.

Please consider continuing this to the end of the year for all these reasons and so that your title fits too!

[Punter Poontang]

It can be pretty disgusting when one is forced to look at the amount spent on punting. I am sure that anyone who has been punting for more than a year could've had used the money for a house deposit or a luxury car by now. However, most of us are in denial - when asked to think about the amount spent, we choose not to and just continue throwing it away.

The upcoming recession in Australia will bring many regrets.

It's only throwing it away if you're not spending it wisely and enjoying yourself. :-)

My theory is that no guy, ever, has laid on his deathbed and thought "Damn, I wish I didn't fuck so many hot girls!!". So as long as you're not destitute as a result of over-doing it, fuck it, no regrets.

It's also likely to be cheaper in the long run compared to buying out half a mortgage and funding munchkins for 18 years after a failed marriage full of sexual frustration.

[rage_face]

It's only throwing it away if you're not spending it wisely and enjoying yourself. :-)

My theory is that no guy, ever, has laid on his deathbed and thought "Damn, I wish I didn't fuck so many hot girls!!". So as long as you're not destitute as a result of over-doing it, fuck it, no regrets.

It's also likely to be cheaper in the long run compared to buying out half a mortgage and funding munchkins for 18 years after a failed marriage full of sexual frustration.

Yeah ok, or he could've delayed his gratification and used that $144k over the years to earn more money to spend later. Assume he was to invest and get 5% return, that's about $7200 per year he's missing out on.

[IamSam]

Or you could look at having big amounts of $$ in your old age as a waste because when you die you can't take it with you anyway :shout:

[Oneonone]

Why leave it to your kids to waste may as well enjoy yourself have fun while you can and spend up.

[rooter]

I stopped counting women and money a long time ago!
I got a letter from the bank the other day about debt insurance, life insurance, funeral plans etc - maybe because I turned 40?
Fuck that!
When I leave this mortal coil my legacy will be a mountain of debt and beautiful pussies!
Enjoy!

[World citizen]

Punting has an opportunity cost - financial (eg, better house, nicer car, more holidays, etc) and also lifestyle (eg, enjoying a committed relationship with a loving partner) .. Its always a judgement call, at some points in my life punting has made perfect sense for me, at other times ive felt its not in my own best interests .. Sure no guy goes to his grave wishing he had less pussy, but most men die with regret for all sorts of other missed opportunities

[rooter]

You can see it in terms of the economist's opportunity cost, but opportunity cost only makes sense if there are two or more things you value or want more or less equally and then you have to sacrifice one of them for the other.
but if you are very clear about what you want and value, then opportunity cost is irrelevant. There is no sacrifice. Its a no contest. There is only pleasure!
Economics assumes that human beings are always rational creatures when clearly we are not - I am not always rational - I take pride in that. Some of the best experiences of my life have been from totally irrational decisions!
Sometimes you die without even having the chance to think about stuff because its really sudden, and that's actually a cool way to go! but if I had the chance to think about it, before I died I would have no regrets - I have always done what I wanted to do at that moment - and I am totally cool with that!
I had a totally bizarre and totally unexpected experience with a 180cm girl from Northern China/Mongolia today - would not trade that for all "the tea in China"

[rage_face]

Punting has an opportunity cost - financial (eg, better house, nicer car, more holidays, etc) and also lifestyle (eg, enjoying a committed relationship with a loving partner) .. Its always a judgement call, at some points in my life punting has made perfect sense for me, at other times ive felt its not in my own best interests .. Sure no guy goes to his grave wishing he had less pussy, but most men die with regret for all sorts of other missed opportunities

+1 bro, +1.

[Gringo]

It's a balancing act, you have to plan for the future but tomorrow's not guaranteed . Make love, eat , drink , enjoy life.

[altgourami]

I have it all. Luckily I have the income to support it otherwise I'd end up a tired and lonely, dirty old man.

I am not keeping my diary any more. I started it in January with the clear intention of quitting. Didn't happen. When you mature (middle aged) you find you have the confidence to chase any woman and, if they're under 30, they're likely to have *not* fallen for all the tricks in the book and are more open to experimentation with an older guy in a European car and (discount) room at The Hilton.

:-)

Sigh, but people under 30 seem so vacuous to me now. I think I'm getting old. I just turned 45. My (much younger) mistress of a few years ago is now a distant memory and I don't miss feeding her ego one little bit.

My only weakness now is that, despite being able to move from one paid punt to another without barely a wince, I do from time to time fall for a girl who seriously clicks with me. Trouble is you'd be wasting your time chasing a girl who's fucking more guys a day than you fuck girls in a week. It DOES change a girl's outlook on life for the worse. It's hard to find a WL you can rely on or trust. MLs are often different but I suspect half of all MLs are doing select FS or working a few days of FS per month within 6 months of starting the B2B massage game.

But would I start punting if I knew what I've found in 8 years of punting?

No. It is fun but once you understand the secrets of this world it's hard to get out of it. :-)

[World citizen]

Altgo - when you say 'I have it all' .. I assume you referring to the trappings and luxuries of an upper-middle class australian lifestyle? But the opportunity cost of a punters lifestyle isnt just economic right?!

[BlueBirdDuke]

...the opportunity cost of a punters lifestyle isnt just economic right?!

True that.