What happened to me? Love or not...

[HamishAM]

Hi all,

Thanks all.

[des888]

Follow your heart man if it doesn't work out take it as a life lesson don't listen to anyone on here man if she duds you in the end lesson learnt if it works out happy days

[HamishAM]

Follow your heart man if it doesn't work out take it as a life lesson don't listen to anyone on here man if she duds you in the end lesson learnt if it works out happy days

Cheers man. Im leaning towards visiting her one last time if she is still there.

[paddington244]

Most of this stuff ends badly but if you want to give it a go see her at the shop , pay for a full
2 hour session and then offer to taker to a good city hotel overnight with a good Japanese meal.
So all up you need to spend 1k .
During this you will start to a true understanding of the truth
cheers

[HamishAM]

Most of this stuff ends badly but if you want to give it a go see her at the shop , pay for a full
2 hour session and then offer to taker to a good city hotel overnight with a good Japanese meal.
So all up you need to spend 1k .
During this you will start to a true understanding of the truth
cheers

Yeah it was heading down this route. I had a hotel planned for my birthday but she just dropped the boyfriend thing and that was it.

[wilisno]

When the girl says no, that means no, move on !

[HamishAM]

When the girl says no, that means no, move on !

She didn't say no though. It felt like she was forced to by the person who called me. Like they found out about me or something.

[wilisno]

She didn't say no. It felt like she was forced to by the person who called me. Like she was found out about me.
What outcome do you want to achieve ? Like Romeo and Juliet ?

[HamishAM]

What outcome do you want to achieve ? Like Romeo and Juliet ?

Man I don't really know. I just wanted to see if there was more than what there was. I could accept that she was a ML doing extras. Our "relationship" felt real to me and this conclusion isnt sitting with me.

I feel like I need one last visit to confirm everything and move on.

[BlackToad]

Take it from a guy who has spent many years making mistakes and learning from experience. If a girl says "no" then it does mean "no". But don't worry there are many fish in the ocean, just find another.

[HamishAM]

Take it from a guy who has spent many years making mistakes and learning from experience. If a girl says "no" then it does mean "no". But don't worry there are many fish in the ocean, just find another.

But have you ever felt that sometimes that no is not what she means?

[BlackToad]

But have you ever felt that sometimes that no is not what she means?

I've felt like that, yes, many times. But if a woman wants to continue the relationship she doesn't play games like that, it's only in your mind that she wants a relationship. Best to move on, find another if you want a gf or relationship of some sort. That's my advice.

[HamishAM]

I've felt like that, yes, many times. But if a woman wants to continue the relationship she doesn't play games like that, it's only in your mind that she wants a relationship. Best to move on, find another if you want a gf or relationship of some sort. That's my advice.

Cheers man. Would you recommend me trying to get some closure with a last visit?

[Brothelcreeper]

Man punters fall for the girls, it is just natural. Girls also fall for punters. I have done it myself, recently and the emotional effect was very painful for both of us as the relationship couldn't go anywhere.

Even if it starts well and feels real it is normally a messy ending with no winners and the fact that she has blocked you on the phone says it all, that she wants to move on.

You must move on as well. Like all "relationship" breakups yes it will hurt but it will get easier as well as time goes by.

I always tell myself not to get involved with the girls outside of the shop and give that advice on the forum due to bad past experiences but unfortunately I never follow my own advice. Two weeks ago I met a really nice young WL from China and have been on three days out with her in the last week to the beach, Blue Mountains and to the Central Coast. I know it probably won't end well but have jumped in again........

I like the thrill of the chase but then suffer the consequences.

[BlackToad]

Cheers man. Would you recommend me trying to get some closure with a last visit?

I wouldn't bother with seeing her again. It would only be awkward and confuse your feelings. There is more pussy out ther than you can poke your cock at, try another. You will soon forget her. Also ask yourself what do you want: a gf, short term relationship, long term, just punting?

[HamishAM]

Man punters fall for the girls, it is just natural. Girls also fall for punters. I have done it myself, recently and the emotional effect was very painful for both of us as the relationship couldn't go anywhere.

Even if it starts well and feels real it is normally a messy ending with no winners and the fact that she has blocked you on the phone says it all, that she wants to move on.

You must move on as well. Like all "relationship" breakups yes it will hurt but it will get easier as well as time goes by.

I always tell myself not to get involved with the girls outside of the shop and give that advice on the forum due to bad past experiences but unfortunately I never follow my own advice. Two weeks ago I met a really nice young WL from China and have been on three days out with her in the last week to the beach, Blue Mountains and to the Central Coast. I know it probably won't end well but have jumped in again........

I like the thrill of the chase but then suffer the consequences.

Thank you. I guess it wasn't meant to be. But damn was it good during that time - I still remember her kiss last night. Fucking broke me when I saw the message and got the call by the guy supposedly her boyfriend.


I wouldn't bother with seeing her again. It would only be awkward and confuse your feelings. There is more pussy out ther than you can poke your cock at, try another. You will soon forget her. Also ask yourself what do you want: a gf, short term relationship, long term, just punting?

Really...I have to try and convince myself not to - I really want the closure heard from her mouth. I think I wanted a short - long term relationship or just to see how far we could go together.

I think I'm just struggling to understand how it change so quickly - from those moments to nothing. 100 to 0. Maybe I was delusional, maybe not.

[Brothelcreeper]

Another thing to think about is if you did end up having a proper relationship with a ML or a WL how would you feel everyday when she goes to work to suck cock, get fucked etc by random dudes all day even if it is just massage. They all give extras.

Not good.

[woods23]

I think she won't see you anyway if she know u booked her lol...some good advices here already it will end badly nd very awkward for both of you. Respect the girl . ..move on man.

Once thses ml changed no fcking way u can get it back . You are no body to them wake up dude lol :sweat:

[Budgyboy]

Don't visit mate, move right along, seriously these girls are in it for MONEY end of story. There are hundreds to visit and play around with, trust me I've learnt. They are a ML they work in the sex industry, unless you are very very easy going that will get to you and if you argue you will refer to that, enjoy ML for what they are and move on trust me.

[HamishAM]

Another thing to think about is if you did end up having a proper relationship with a ML or a WL how would you feel everyday when she goes to work to suck cock, get fucked etc by random dudes all day even if it is just massage. They all give extras.

Not good.

Yeah I understood this clearly. I know she did give extras and had sex with her customers. I think this could of been an issue - but even during our time I wasnt thinking about it and we talked about her everyday, her customers. She would tell me she found it terrible but some enjoyable.

[HamishAM]

I think she won't see you anyway if she know u booked her lol...some good advices here already it will end badly nd very awkward for both of you. Respect the girl . ..move on man.

Once thses ml changed no fcking way u can get it back . You are no body to them wake up dude lol :sweat:


It felt like I was someone to her though... why would she visit me after hours? why would we go on dates together?


Don't visit mate, move right along, seriously these girls are in it for MONEY end of story. There are hundreds to visit and play around with, trust me I've learnt. They are a ML they work in the sex industry, unless you are very very easy going that will get to you and if you argue you will refer to that, enjoy ML for what they are and move on trust me.

Yeah I think this is the right choice - LOGICALLY. I think I need time to cool off emotionally.

[Brothelcreeper]

Read this for some advice on getting too close to girls

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?66288-Getting-phone-numbers

[BlackToad]

Another thing to think about is if you did end up having a proper relationship with a ML or a WL how would you feel everyday when she goes to work to suck cock, get fucked etc by random dudes all day even if it is just massage. They all give extras.

Not good.

Yeah, that dude could be me and/or Punterman!! That would be creepy:surprise:

[HamishAM]

Yeah, that dude could be me and/or Punterman!! That would be creepy:surprise:

Hahahah yeah true. :D Thanks guys!


Read this for some advice on getting too close to girls

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?66288-Getting-phone-numbers


Will read this

[Brothelcreeper]

And this

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?68605-How-to-convince-a-WL-ML-to-leave-her-job-for-good

[Budgyboy]

Are you taking the piss old mate?

[HamishAM]

Alright thanks all

[Brothelcreeper]

And this

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?66649-Seeing-WL-s-at-their-own-homes

[HamishAM]

And this

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?66649-Seeing-WL-s-at-their-own-homes

Fuck dude these are sad as fuck. Exactly how I feel.

[Brothelcreeper]

Fuck dude these are sad as fuck. Exactly how I feel.

You will get over it. Give it time. Get out there and fuck some other chicks. That helps.......

Punting is a roller coaster of ups and downs. I am sure all long time punters have met several girls where they think "if only", or "in another parallel universe".

[HamishAM]

You will get over it. Give it time. Get out there and fuck some other chicks. That helps.......

Punting is a roller coaster of ups and downs. I am sure all long time punters have met several girls where they think "if only", or "in another parallel universe".

That's true man. Thanks so much. Talking to everyone here has definitely helped and will let me sleep a bit easier. My fellow punters <3

I still want to see her one last time...if she declines i'll just get another girl

[Brothelcreeper]

That's true man. Thanks so much. Talking to everyone here has definitely helped and will let me sleep a bit easier. My fellow punters <3

I still want to see her one last time...if she declines i'll just get another girl

Don't.....it isn't worth it. I thought you wanted advice. You seem to want it but don't listen to it.

She has blocked you, move on. Not fair on her. You will come across as a stalker.

[HamishAM]

Alright. I'll take it. I will be better if i don't see her.

I guess i'll respect her. I guess it would be stalker-ish too

[Babycat]

When one of you say "no", "stop" then stop. Because if she wants to test you only, she can find other excuses to test ( push you away to see how much effort you make to pull her close), but not the boyfriend excuse!!! In this situation, she probably has boyfriend and why she wants to slow down on relationship with you is because she needs time to investigate if you're really after her and if you too can go further in the future or not (maybe you just want a short relationship or friend with benefits relationship) and time to COMPARE PROS AND CONS of going with you or staying with her current boyfriend. If you're better, she will dump him, but now she might not sure so still keeps both of you and current boyfriend. Backup plans, always.

[HamishAM]

When one of you say "no", "stop" then stop. Because if she wants to test you only, she can find other excuses to test ( push you away to see how much effort you make to pull her close), but not the boyfriend excuse!!! In this situation, she probably has boyfriend and why she wants to slow down on relationship with you is because she needs time to investigate if you're really after her and if you too can go further in the future or not (maybe you just want a short relationship or friend with benefits relationship) and time to COMPARE PROS AND CONS of going with you or staying with her current boyfriend. If you're better, she will dump him, but now she might not sure so still keeps both of you and current boyfriend. Backup plans, always.

This could be true too. I just found out I'm unblocked on line. Maybe I'll wait and see what happens

[Babycat]

This could be true too. I just found out I'm unblocked on line. Maybe I'll wait and see what happens
If she likes you so much, she will give a way for you to contact (shop visit won't count)
I know it's really painful. Just right after being in heaven, you fell in miserable situation. I still remember the date of 28th of June xx around 5:30am I was standing in Bondi beach, freezing but excited hoping to see him show up after getting my text, then all I had is he just came back to ex girlfriend. I replied that I was fine, but I was actually dying in three months. I didn't text him, but didn't block him

[HamishAM]

If she likes you so much, she will give a way for you to contact (shop visit won't count)
I know it's really painful. Just right after being in heaven, you fell in miserable situation. I still remember the date of 28th of June xx around 5:30am I was standing in Bondi beach, freezing but excited hoping to see him show up after getting my text, then all I had is he just came back to ex girlfriend. I replied that I was fine, but I was actually dying in three months. I didn't text him, but didn't block him

This is true. I'll be patient but not hope for too much. Thanks for sharing your story. I don't think I'll forget for awhile. The moments I had with her was magical

[slarty]

Hi Hamish, reading the info provided there's probably more to the story that she isn't telling. You may never find out the full truth, but there often is a back story. A lot of working ladies MLs and WLs have a fair bit going on in their personal lives. The guy could be a BF, or someone that she is obliged to in some way whether it be a boss, sponsor or whatever. Regardless she is shutting you out at least for now.

If she hasn't blocked you if you are cool enough you can just leave her there in your friend list and see what happens. She may contact you, or after a while you could just say hello and see if she answers. If whatever is going on changes she will contact you if she genuinely likes you. But if it is similar to what babycat says (she is making up her mind or she is juggling a few boys) then you are best to avoid or at least back off and look elsewhere.

[garfield]

She didn't say no though. It felt like she was forced to by the person who called me. Like they found out about me or something.

Her boyfriend probably gives her money regularly and found out about you. So she has to let you go because she values the man that can give her money more.

[HamishAM]

Her boyfriend probably gives her money regularly and found out about you. So she has to let you go because she values the man that can give her money more.

Feels bad man. I can support her but yeah she probably has obligations to this person

[Babycat]

Well said. Picking up the more valuable one. No love story. Just business plans

Her boyfriend probably gives her money regularly and found out about you. So she has to let you go because she values the man that can give her money more.

[HamishAM]

Well said. Picking up the more valuable one. No love story. Just business plans

Its pretty crazy how much she makes. Roughly more then a grand a day :/ but she is having trouble holding so much and transferring

[garfield]

Feels bad man. I can support her but yeah she probably has obligations to this person

I know it's hard, especially when you developed feelings for her and such a drastic change. Better move on.

[garfield]

Its pretty crazy how much she makes. Roughly more then a grand a day :/ but she is having trouble holding so much and transferring

More than a grand a day, she's doing quite a fair bit extras. ML usually ask guys to transfer money for them because you can transfer cash only 5k a day.

[HamishAM]

I know it's hard, especially when you developed feelings for her and such a drastic change. Better move on.

Yeah I feel better now knowing alot of people go through similar things. It sucks but what can you do. I've decided not to visit her and cherish the time we did spend together. She will be a distant memory for me but a happy one. I appreciate everyone's advice and comments. Really got me through tonight. I would of been just thinking why but you guys helped me see why maybe she did it.. thanks

[HamishAM]

Hi Hamish, reading the info provided there's probably more to the story that she isn't telling. You may never find out the full truth, but there often is a back story. A lot of working ladies MLs and WLs have a fair bit going on in their personal lives. The guy could be a BF, or someone that she is obliged to in some way whether it be a boss, sponsor or whatever. Regardless she is shutting you out at least for now.

If she hasn't blocked you if you are cool enough you can just leave her there in your friend list and see what happens. She may contact you, or after a while you could just say hello and see if she answers. If whatever is going on changes she will contact you if she genuinely likes you. But if it is similar to what babycat says (she is making up her mind or she is juggling a few boys) then you are best to avoid or at least back off and look elsewhere.

Yeah agreed...I will keep her on my contact list and see what happens. Her life is hard, i'm sure she has her own problems and situations. I guess now its a waiting game to see if anything happens or not while also fighting myself not to visit her.

[Brothelcreeper]

Yeah agreed...I will keep her on my contact list and see what happens. Her life is hard, i'm sure she has her own problems and situations. I guess now its a waiting game to see if anything happens or not while also fighting myself not to visit her.


That's why there are plenty of love songs about broken hearts. Love sucks sometimes but the pleasure outweighs the pain......

[HamishAM]

That's why there are plenty of love songs about broken hearts. Love sucks sometimes but the pleasure outweighs the pain......

Agreed. The fact that i'm no longer blocked on LINE might mean something - I think I should just give her time for things to cool down and see if she contacts me.

[HamishAM]

Knowing that she hasn't blocked me on line. Should I send her something or just wait ?

[Dak2000]

Reminds me of a time 15 or so years ago. WL I saw in Burwood, 57 George maybe. I thought we had a real good connection, I liked her a lot, and I don’t think I’m dreaming it was mutual. I was never as close as you in your situation but we were close enough that I can still replay meetings in my head and think about her often. I wasn’t married, had no girlfriends or anything, I really liked her.

The last time I saw her, at the shop, I didn’t know it would be the last time I’d see or speak to her, and neither did she. As usual she asks private questions and I was happy to answer. Then I knew she had to walk away from what she did, I couldn’t take her. I couldn’t buy her for the rest of her life. I couldn’t give her what she had, the manicures, the hair, the shoes, maybe more importantly whatever else she did with her money.

So that night she realised I couldn’t provide for her at that time of her life, and I realised it wasn’t meant to be. Who knows about another time, which of course is why I still think about her. It was easy to close the door behind me.

[MansNotHot]

most of the girls ive spoken to at the popular shop on this forum and im pretty sure most of you guys who have asked know 90% of the WLs have date or gone out with the punters. its funny BC mention blue mountains hehe that were i took a Japanese WL a year ago. you have to have good mental strength and a special kinda of dont give a fuk attitude if she continues to work.

[sukeong]

To put it bluntly, OP u need to forget about her and move on to other chicks. Girls are fickle, I think Jap girls more than others. For whatever reason, she bailed on you. The pain sucks I imagine but trying to stick with her will only hurt more.

Got a tinder match once with a jap girl and we got on well online but when we were scheduled to meet as agreed upon, she totally ignored me that day with no warning or sign at all. Fortunately had other matches so wasn't to hung up on her but I would imagine it would suck for a guy to be left hanging like that after a good start till tat point. Lesson is....don't be too committed to a girl in the beginning.

[Babycat]

Agreed. The fact that i'm no longer blocked on LINE might mean something - I think I should just give her time for things to cool down and see if she contacts me.
You think it's a good sign? Please stop dreaming and hoping. Find someone who treats you like her priorities, not an option. In this case, you might be just a financial option.

[BongKong]

You think it's a good sign? Please stop dreaming and hoping. Find someone who treats you like her priorities, not an option. In this case, you might be just a financial option.

Do you use the same ghost writer as Bella?

[AHLUNGOR]

I still remember the date of 28th of June xx around 5:30am I was standing in Bondi beach, freezing but excited hoping to see him show up after getting my text, then all I had is he just came back to ex girlfriend. I replied that I was fine, but I was actually dying in three months. I didn't text him, but didn't block him

5.30am at Bondi Beach ! Who picked the time and place ?

[vinegarstroke]

Do you use the same ghost writer as Bella?

Ha ha ha, Who do we think that might be?

[Babycat]

Do you use the same ghost writer as Bella?
You try to be a smart ass, don't you? Has your tiny nose ever broken dua to your behaviour?

5.30am at Bondi Beach ! Who picked the time and place ?
Me. I arranged a surprise, but I was surprised actually!

[AHLUNGOR]

Me. I arranged a surprise, but I was surprised actually!


Guess you have learn your lesson the hard way. It's probably better for you in the long run, ger out early hurts, but it would have hurted a lot more if you were in deeper .

[Brothelcreeper]

Guess you have learn your lesson the hard way. It's probably better for you in the long run, ger out early hurts, but it would have hurted a lot more if you were in deeper .

Ahh so true :surprise:

[BongKong]

You try to be a smart ass, don't you? Has your tiny nose ever broken dua to your behaviour?

Me. I arranged a surprise, but I was surprised actually!

You seem more aggresive since you've gotten your own thread.

I thought my question was quite tame compared to others you get.

[Babycat]

No, bcz you come to close to fire. Everyone has a limit of being nice and patient and I hate peoples having snake characters. But I think I should not respond to you as "don't feed the troll".

You seem more aggresive since you've gotten your own thread.

I thought my question was quite tame compared to others you get.

[AHLUNGOR]

No, bcz you come to close to fire. Everyone has a limit of being nice and patient and I hate peoples having snake characters. But I think I should not respond to you as "don't feed the troll".

Yeah, that's the way Baby. He is totally lost and irrelevant without Jerry around. Don't help him make another 1,000 posts.

[BongKong]

Yeah, that's the way Baby. He is totally lost and irrelevant without Jerry around. Don't help him make another 1,000 posts.

Thats ok i have you as a guide also Uncle.

You can answer all my questions about spanish and drinking water.

[IMD]

Thats ok i have you as a guide also Uncle.

You can answer all my questions about spanish and drinking water.

Oh you Bongkong or CL or keyboard warriors. Aren't you bored harrasing people in this forum with your stupid retarded remarks? Got no life dude? Life is so lonely for you? Poor dude, can't help you with that.

No wonder you started to attack Bella Massage before. Sure I know why. An old short ugly aussie old dude walked in to her place a while ago and she looked down at you. You're not happy, were you? And still commenting about her shop here?

[BongKong]

Aren't you bored harrasing people in this forum with your stupid retarded remarks? Got no life dude? Life is so lonely for you? Poor dude, can't help you with that

Lol surely even someone with an IQ as low as yours can see the hypocrisy in this statement.

Do you sit around and picture every white dude you see as me?

[bfe]

I still remember the date of 28th of June xx around 5:30am I was standing in Bondi beach

That would have been romantic, to watch the sun rise together. I wish you all the best in your quest to find love in the future.

[yug]

Her boyfriend probably gives her money regularly and found out about you. So she has to let you go because she values the man that can give her money more.

What he said!
To OP: Until the girl chases you, it ain't real. Even if she chases you, you have to know her real intention. In ML/WL case, it is usually money. Plus they have heaps of excess baggage. They are either married and divorced. They are single mothers. Her life will be shredded with mysteries; the kinda mysteries that will eat you alive every time you think about her; make you bitter each day until you begin to hate humanity itself. You might have guessed it: I have been there and done that. Don't make the same mistake.

[05tangco]

can never tell what the girls are thinking..

[Hurstyronny]

What he said!
To OP: Until the girl chases you, it ain't real. Even if she chases you, you have to know her real intention. In ML/WL case, it is usually money. Plus they have heaps of excess baggage. They are either married and divorced. They are single mothers. Her life will be shredded with mysteries; the kinda mysteries that will eat you alive every time you think about her; make you bitter each day until you begin to hate humanity itself. You might have guessed it: I have been there and done that. Don't make the same mistake.

This observation is spot on. Keep it simple. Get to know them in the shop and leave them there. Sad stories, but you can’t be super man and save them all. She likes cash and your in the shop for variety.