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Bawal
25-06-2018, 04:50 PM
Hi Brothers,

Need your help. My partner went to see a doctor as she felt uncomfortable when peeing and the female doctor told her that she may have got Herpes! Now, we're just waiting for the blood test to come back in 3-5 days time.

She called and asked me if I've been cheating. Well, I visited WLs but NEVER did any barebacks, always use condom. I may have light kisses but not DFK.

I'm gonna say to her that it's not a herpes until the test results come out. She wanted me to do a test as well, she's booked an appointment for me tomorrow. I said I will go by myself... (but she may want to go into the consultation room with me)

Help me what should I do and say?
I've seen some older posts on here, recommending Sexual Health Clinics for privacy like SSHS and the one in RPA. Should I say to my partner to cancel the GP appointment, I should go to one of those clinics? in terms of timing, I'm thinking we should wait for her results before doing anything.

OmniMime
25-06-2018, 04:56 PM
Why not just say that you may have done certain things with the partner before the current one?

Bawal
25-06-2018, 05:02 PM
Thanks OmniMime, but I can't use that. We've been together for a long time and my punting started after our relationship.

However, my last punt was about more than 1 month ago. Not sure how accurate the GP advice because she only complained about this issue now.

OmniMime
25-06-2018, 05:08 PM
Thanks OmniMime, but I can't use that. We've been together for a long time and my punting started after our relationship.

However, my last punt was about more than 1 month ago. Not sure how accurate the GP advice because she only complained about this issue now.If that is the case, then perhaps it can be a case of using certain public toilets that aren't clean or hygienic when taking a dump? Who knows what the cock has been wiping against the underside of the toilet seat? Just a guess?

But ... what if it is the other way around between the partners? No offense intended.

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liminal
25-06-2018, 05:17 PM
Sit tight until the results are in

Blood tests are a waste of time - you have to take a swab of an open sore

If however you have passed on an STD .

You’ll just have to be honest. Unless you want to state you only French kissed ... someone’s lips

Bawal
25-06-2018, 05:22 PM
If that is the case, then perhaps it can be a case of using certain public toilets that aren't clean or hygienic when taking a dump? Who knows what the cock has been wiping against the underside of the toilet seat? Just a guess?

But ... what if it is the other way around between the partners? No offense intended.

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Good advice, I will probably use that.

I don't want to speculate for now as we are still waiting for the results. But yeah, if it's the other way around, I will probably leave.

Bawal
25-06-2018, 05:25 PM
Sit tight until the results are in

Blood tests are a waste of time - you have to take a swab of an open sore

If however you have passed on an STD .

You’ll just have to be honest. Unless you want to state you only French kissed ... someone’s lips

Thanks liminal, agree, I will wait for the results.
I don't know if I have passed anything hence she booked an appointment for me. I will do a test for sure, but I prefer the Sexual Health Clinic as per suggested many times in this forum for anonymous/privacy purposes. I don't want the GP to have my records for sexual test. I'm thinking to do the test until her results came out. otherwise, why should I do a test now?

cuteguy
25-06-2018, 05:36 PM
When a partner claims her man of cheating then that's one accusation. However if she has contracted herpes and she swears she had no sexual activity with anyone then you're in trouble. As the boys have suggested above, instead of seeing your GP pay a visit to one of the sexual health clinics where you can remain anonymous and your results are confidential.

I guess this is one of the risks when you punt whilst in a relationship with someone. Let's hope your results show no evidence of herpes. Good luck.

Bawal
25-06-2018, 06:06 PM
Thanks cuteguy. Yeah, I'm fully aware of the risk or lose a partner is the worst case.

We won't know for another 5 days. Hope the results will be negative.

I probably will not do a test until the results are out & it's a positive one. But I'm now collecting all facts about herpes etc. Feel free to share if any.

Hu6e
25-06-2018, 06:19 PM
After a quick google.....
"A person who has HSV 1 or HSV 2, but has no notable symptoms of herpes can also transmit the virus. In many cases condoms do not prevent infected areas. The best way to protect yourself from the herpes virus is to get to know your partner, having an open discussion about STIs, and both getting tested by your GP or local health clinic. With so many people infected and never showing any symptoms of herpes, the increase for proper testing is recognised and strongly encouraged, as you may not recognise all the symptoms."

Also....
"Up to three quarters of the population doesn’t know they have herpes, and one in four will show no symptoms. Half will only have mild symptoms and are unlikely to be diagnosed and one in four will have more noticeable symptoms and will be diagnosed."

And....
"Herpes is curable. Your immune system reacts and cures it very well and stops recurrences for most people."

So, there's that.
I would get a better cover story tbh.

Bawal
25-06-2018, 06:23 PM
Thanks in helping me with the research Huge Brother

Bawal
25-06-2018, 06:32 PM
Also I'm reading all the herpes symptoms for men, none of them currently applicable to me. If I'm contracted with herpes, should I not feel all the symptoms now (after a month of my last punt)?

garfield
25-06-2018, 07:20 PM
Also I'm reading all the herpes symptoms for men, none of them currently applicable to me. If I'm contracted with herpes, should I not feel all the symptoms now (after a month of my last punt)?

You don't need to have symptom to have herpes as your immune may be strong to suppress it. One in 4 men has herpes whether they know it or not. Most men who punts should get herpes at some stage, it's a given. It's so easy to get it when you come in close contact with someone who happens to have a herpes outbreak. Once you're contracted, the virus stay with you for life but most minor cases suppressed by immune system.

Yogurt
25-06-2018, 08:45 PM
Herpes will stay forever in woman body , and it pops up and gone again and pops up again depend on bodycircumtances

bronte
25-06-2018, 08:56 PM
Herpes will stay forever in woman body , and it pops up and gone again and pops up again depend on bodycircumtances
Same with men. You can have an outbreak due to a number of factors which will require you to take some medication.

It will not cure it though- you have it for life.

Yogurt
25-06-2018, 08:57 PM
Same with men. You can have an outbreak due to a number of factors which will require you to take some medication.

It will not cure it though- you have it for life.

Yeah it is for life

Momoe
25-06-2018, 10:18 PM
Well, condom can reduce risk of herpes transmission, but not 100% prevent it. As long as you get skin to skin contact, you can get it.

Your gf may even have gotten herpes herself from using public toilets without properly wiping the toilet seats

Yogurt
25-06-2018, 10:21 PM
Or maybe your gf got from others , who knows ?

bronte
25-06-2018, 10:25 PM
Or maybe your gf got from others , who knows ?

This might be the best way out. Have the mindset that she got it from someone else so you appear to be suspicious of her instead of the other way around.

Obviously get yourself tested too, of course.

schingchang
25-06-2018, 10:28 PM
I work in the medical field. You cannot contract HSV-1 or HSV-2 through a public toilet or any other inanimate object. The virus does not live outside of a host. That's just some bullshit excuse husbands give their clueless wives.

You can transmit the virus via oral to vaginal/penile or vaginal to penile. The transmission rate during an active infection (having a cold sore on your lip, or actual blisters on your genitals) is much much higher then when there is no symptoms present. Although it is still possible to transmit the virus when not having any symptoms, its definitely much harder. Especially if you are using proper barriers (condoms) all the time. However that doesn't stop you from contracting HSV-1 via a cold sore, then going down on your girlfriend later and giving it to her.

If it actually has been 30 days since your last encounter, you should have gotten some initial reaction if you never had herpes before. Although the initial symptoms of a classical blister/cold sores, pain, erythema etc. is not as exagerrated in males then females. I'm surprised the GP didn't take a swab of her blisters if she had any, for culturing as that would be a definitive diagnosis. A blood test looks for anti-bodies and may come back negative if this is her initial presentation, as she hasn't had time to make the antibodies yet. Genital herpes are quite easy to diagnosis just by looking, it has a very classical distinct pattern.

Either way, you really do need to get checked out yourself, as you would get a positive blood-test if you were exposed a month ago. And yes, herpes is forever, but often breakouts can be controlled/prevented with the right anti-viral medication.

Yogurt
25-06-2018, 10:35 PM
On Std part , herpes is one of the most terrible STD cause it stay forever , you can google image whats Herpes look like ...

holi_day
25-06-2018, 10:48 PM
I don't see any option but just calm down and wait for the test result. Do not get in the consultation room with your partner as you have to lie about something. The more lies you tell the harder you can make them perfect. Keep quite and say nothing but deny any cheating.

Doctor oftentimes scares people. Last time my partner saw doctor and doctor said she might have syphilis even it's just a pimple in an embarrassing place.

Anyway, the golden rule is, do not overreact.

suede
25-06-2018, 10:54 PM
your gf did blood tests only then not a proper test, you have to have a swab test

krnboy
26-06-2018, 09:30 AM
The doc said herpes but what if it isnt? Discomfort in urinating can mean many things. Gonorrhea, chlamydia, or even UTI which is not considered an STD. UTI women are more prone to it as their urethra is shorter than a males. I say don't worry too much but update us on whats happening. Maybe dont punt for a while :)

Soccerfan
26-06-2018, 10:43 AM
The doc said herpes but what if it isnt? Discomfort in urinating can mean many things. Gonorrhea, chlamydia, or even UTI which is not considered an STD. UTI women are more prone to it as their urethra is shorter than a males. I say don't worry too much but update us on whats happening. Maybe dont punt for a while :)

My first thought was a Urinary Tract Infection as well. Krnboy is right, more common in females for the reason he stated.
Her doctor should have tested for this in the surgery, very simple.

nobody12
26-06-2018, 11:31 AM
I would say sometimes a BBBJ, contact or a kiss will give you herpes so it's a hit and miss when you punt

Hu6e
26-06-2018, 12:45 PM
You said no bareback, but do/did you get BBBJ or DATY? Those are exact same risk as BBFS.

Is this guy for real???
You're an expert on sexual health I take it.
The stupidity is strong in this one.

Just do some research bro, and calm the fuck down. Google is your friend. Dont listen to the wasters trying to scare you.

schingchang
26-06-2018, 03:35 PM
...BBBJ and DATY are definitly not the same risk as catching genital herpes as vaginal and penile contact. The risk is much lower transmission that way. There are two strains of the virus, HSV-1 and HSV-2. HSV-2 has historically be more predominate in genital herpes and is more aggressive in that regard being transmitted "down there".

Although herpes is obviously very annoying and can be very painful/embarassing, it is definitely not the worst STI. Yes you have it forever, but other then the symptomatic blisters it causes...it really doesn't kill you or do much else. Unlike alot of the other ones that well...can kill you or cause infertility.

As well herpes does not present with urethritis, that is more classically presented in STIs like gonorrhea and chlamydia. Like many have said, you need to relax and get tested. Once you get confirmation results, you can decide on the next steps appropriately. Getting random scares or reassurances from strangers on the internet won't help.

schingchang
26-06-2018, 03:37 PM
On the pussy slide comment, herpes is best transmitted via direct contact with an active infection (a visible blister). So yes, it is high risk if you decide to pussy slide with a girl who's got active herpes.

FoxIsMe
26-06-2018, 03:43 PM
Get a test and see what you can do from there

eltran
26-06-2018, 06:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is

suede
26-06-2018, 06:58 PM
pussy slide best done wearing a condom

xboyx
27-06-2018, 12:02 AM
maybe your gf is a WL?
or is your name Quagmire?

Paison
27-06-2018, 08:55 AM
In terms of Herpes, soldier76 is actually correct. BBBJ can pass on herpes. This is the same as gonorrhea.
I’m no angel but always do a quick check via visual inspection before doing anything with a WL (make sure they have no cold sores, spots on pussy, weird smells etc).

Here is a link - http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2016-09-16/cold-sores-and-genital-herpes/7537050

soldier76
27-06-2018, 10:01 AM
...BBBJ and DATY are definitly not the same risk as catching genital herpes as vaginal and penile contact. The risk is much lower transmission that way. There are two strains of the virus, HSV-1 and HSV-2. HSV-2 has historically be more predominate in genital herpes and is more aggressive in that regard being transmitted "down there".

They are the same risk. BBBJ/DATY is actually more risky for herpes transmission because HSV-1 generally only presents in the mouth/lips.

Also, there are many, many strains of Herpes - Herpesviridae is a huge family of viruses.

soldier76
27-06-2018, 10:11 AM
Is this guy for real???
You're an expert on sexual health I take it.
The stupidity is strong in this one.

Amusing, but actually I have postgraduate qualifications (PhD) in biochemistry and molecular biology, and I'm much, much smarter than you. Try doing some background reading before assuming someone is stupid. You risk... looking stupid.

BBBJ/DATY are just as risky as BBFS for STD transmission for most intents and purposes for most STDs, and that's why sex health clinics advocate condoms and dams for everything. The reason why people aren't breaking out with STDs left/right and centre is that STDs are quite rare, approx 300 new cases reported each year per 10K people for the most common STDs (Chlamydia & Gonohorrea). Mouthwash may reduce the chance slightly but mouthwashes are 1) ineffective versus viruses, and 2) not actually very effective at killing bacteria either as the anti-bacterial agent is usually a quaternary ammonium-based antibiotic and most bacteria have long since become resistant to QACs.

gannicus
27-06-2018, 10:26 AM
If you are positive for HSV-1 and have no symptoms, the blood test result does not tell you whether you've got it in your mouth or gentiles. Most people got HSV-1 on the mouth, I think around 60% - 70% percent, they get it during childhood when being kissed by an adult or so, but not many have outbreaks.

If you did DATY with your girlfriend previously, you can say that you might have had a small cold sore at that time and didn't bother, it might of got transmitted that way to your girlfriend vagina.

I think this is the best excuse for you

gannicus
27-06-2018, 10:33 AM
Also, not everyone who contacts with Herps have an outbreak straight away, it might be possible that you or your girlfriend had it for months and years and just something triggered the outbreak recently, such as taking antibiotics or immune got weaken etc..

And, not everyones symptoms is the same, some peoples symptoms are very mild unnoticeable

schingchang
27-06-2018, 03:31 PM
They are the same risk. BBBJ/DATY is actually more risky for herpes transmission because HSV-1 generally only presents in the mouth/lips.

Also, there are many, many strains of Herpes - Herpesviridae is a huge family of viruses.

Yea...BBBJ and DATY are definitely not the same risk. HSV-1 and HSV-2 are the ones that are going to give you genital herpes. Yea we can sit here and talk about the other strains like HHV8, but that doesn't give you genital herpes does it?

You are correct, traditionally HSV-1 presents in the mouth/lips but now the prevlance is roughly 50/50 on the lips/mouth and genitals between HSV-1/HSV-2 as oral sex has become such a common occurrence. In fact, most adolescents begin with oral sex before any penetrative sex.

You just be crazy if you think BBBJ/DATY has the same transmission risk for most STDs. That is...absolutely ridiculious. Certain STDs like herpes and pubic lice does have higher transmission rates but other STDs like HIV and gonorrhea have a much lower risk. Infact the transmission rate of HIV through recieving oral sex as a man is quite a confrontational subject, some studies shown such a low transmission rate, almost neligible (as noted by the CDC). Gonorrhea also yes can be transmisted by mouth but the rate is in the low single digits while female to male transmission of BBFS is about 40% per event.

While we're throwing around degrees, I guess I have an MD and I'm practicing

krnboy
27-06-2018, 05:09 PM
Yea...BBBJ and DATY are definitely not the same risk. HSV-1 and HSV-2 are the ones that are going to give you genital herpes. Yea we can sit here and talk about the other strains like HHV8, but that doesn't give you genital herpes does it?

You are correct, traditionally HSV-1 presents in the mouth/lips but now the prevlance is roughly 50/50 on the lips/mouth and genitals between HSV-1/HSV-2 as oral sex has become such a common occurrence. In fact, most adolescents begin with oral sex before any penetrative sex.

You just be crazy if you think BBBJ/DATY has the same transmission risk for most STDs. That is...absolutely ridiculious. Certain STDs like herpes and pubic lice does have higher transmission rates but other STDs like HIV and gonorrhea have a much lower risk. Infact the transmission rate of HIV through recieving oral sex as a man is quite a confrontational subject, some studies shown such a low transmission rate, almost neligible (as noted by the CDC). Gonorrhea also yes can be transmisted by mouth but the rate is in the low single digits while female to male transmission of BBFS is about 40% per event.

While we're throwing around degrees, I guess I have an MD and I'm practicing

Ok so most of us love BBBJ I'm sure. Whats the likelihood of contracting any STD? Do you have statistics for different types of STDs transmitted via BBBJ from mouth to penis?

I ask because it is quite a serious topic and it seems to me that you know quite a bit :)

schingchang
27-06-2018, 09:08 PM
Ok so most of us love BBBJ I'm sure. Whats the likelihood of contracting any STD? Do you have statistics for different types of STDs transmitted via BBBJ from mouth to penis?

I ask because it is quite a serious topic and it seems to me that you know quite a bit :)

It's not hard to google some statistics on prevalence and transmission rate of different types of STDs. In general the risks of BBBJ are quite low, pharnygeal gonorrhea is amongst heterosexual interactions are quite low, and the transmission rate is not great. Other rates of STDs like herpes and HIV are even lower. However that doesn't mean there is no risk, with each exposure your risk obviously increases. It's just a probability game, eventually you're gonna roll the dice and hit snake eyes. So the most important thing if you are not protecting yourself at all times, and enjoying a bit more risky behavior like BBBJs is to get tested periodically, whether you have symptoms or not. I suggest testing every 3 months at your local GP or sexual health clinic.

Alot of symptoms with the common STDs (ie. gonorrhea, chlamydia, although trichomonas is creeping up) is very vague, even more so for women. So you can be contracting it from your favorite WL and they don't even know they got it. For men, it's still over about 60% of people not having any symptoms for up to 3-6 months with gonorrhea and chlamydia, the most common symptoms being some abnormal discharge and painful urination. The problem with not having symptoms is it can cause some serious long-term health effects. Unlike herpes that the OP is worried about (which mostly only causes symptomatic painful outbreaks and embarassment), gonorrhea and chlamydia can cause permanent infertility, pelvic inflammatory diseases and epididymitis (your balls become super swollen) requiring surgical intervention.

So TL;DR, BBBJ is "relatively" safe especially compared to BBFS but you should be getting tested every 3 months to make sure you are covered and not spreading diseases.

quackm2002
27-06-2018, 10:19 PM
Jesus, instead of trying to argue who has a bigger dick here, you guys should actually be trying to respond to Bawal who started this thread.

None of you can match Mr Nejums in that department anyway.

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?78490-How-to-deal-with-passing-out

Yogurt
27-06-2018, 10:51 PM
I never see people said he got small dick , everybody said he is big but i dont think so , only 1 member here ever said he got small dick and i respect that . I can see big sometimes it is Soft cock lol ....

schingchang
27-06-2018, 10:55 PM
But I do have a big dick. Thick too. Thicc.

And I thought I already responded to the OP.

Gregorious
28-06-2018, 10:30 PM
If its true you contracted and passed on Herpes or any STI to your wife you should be upfront and honest.

Its a low act to come up with an excuse.

If youve infected her its a life sentence not of her doing.

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PBoy
28-06-2018, 11:00 PM
Can you tell us where you usually punt OP so we can be a bit careful too? :(

Cracker38
29-06-2018, 03:17 PM
The op should have test results by now. Wonder what the outcome was

cuteguy
29-06-2018, 03:24 PM
The op should have test results by now. Wonder what the outcome was

The results should be available within 3-4 days. The silence could suggest bad news. Let's hope it's not.

krnboy
29-06-2018, 03:57 PM
We have all given in some input so I'm sure he'll come back to us

Bawal
29-06-2018, 04:27 PM
Thank you all for your support and advice over the last couple of days. It helped me in thinking through this issue.
But I'd like to especially thank both brother schingchang & krnboy in giving in-depth and professional advice on this specific topic.

My partner received the result yesterday and HSV-1 virus and blisters were detected on her female part.
I think that's bad, but also glad it wasn't HSV-2.

I will go and get myself checked out over the weekend. Beforehand, may I ask a couple of further questions:
1. Since my partner is now HSV-1 positive and if I'm not, we would like to have a family (involves BBFS) in the future. Does it mean this will not be possible without me being transmitted too?
2. If HSV-1 couldn't be detected on my dick, does it mean HSV-1 only lives in my mouth/lips? hence, I should avoid any kissing activities/sharing food etc. in the future to not spread this virus further.

I understand this virus won't kill but it's annoying. Up until now, I have not discovered any obvious symptoms or it doesn't bother me physically yet.
But now, thinking back, I wonder why I often have cold sores during winter. But warmer seasons are fine.

Cracker38
29-06-2018, 05:43 PM
It is possible that your partner has been infected for sometime but this outbreak could be her first. The virus can live dormant for quite sometime before an outbreak occurs.

However if your test comes back negative, then.....????

krnboy
29-06-2018, 06:05 PM
Thank you all for your support and advice over the last couple of days. It helped me in thinking through this issue.
But I'd like to especially thank both brother schingchang & krnboy in giving in-depth and professional advice on this specific topic.

My partner received the result yesterday and HSV-1 virus and blisters were detected on her female part.
I think that's bad, but also glad it wasn't HSV-2.

I will go and get myself checked out over the weekend. Beforehand, may I ask a couple of further questions:
1. Since my partner is now HSV-1 positive and if I'm not, we would like to have a family (involves BBFS) in the future. Does it mean this will not be possible without me being transmitted too?
2. If HSV-1 couldn't be detected on my dick, does it mean HSV-1 only lives in my mouth/lips? hence, I should avoid any kissing activities/sharing food etc. in the future to not spread this virus further.

I understand this virus won't kill but it's annoying. Up until now, I have not discovered any obvious symptoms or it doesn't bother me physically yet.
But now, thinking back, I wonder why I often have cold sores during winter. But warmer seasons are fine.

If you already have HSV1 in your system (lets say in your mouth) and she has HSV1 down there and you do BBFS, then you wont get it in your dick because you already have it. Dont worry too much bud. HSV1 is common. I got tested because i was curious to know and apparently i got HSV1 too but never had a breakout. You have cold sores in winter because your immune system is low.

I aint in the medical field so i might be wrong but i did a lot of research myself before

schingchang
29-06-2018, 07:07 PM
Thank you all for your support and advice over the last couple of days. It helped me in thinking through this issue.
But I'd like to especially thank both brother schingchang & krnboy in giving in-depth and professional advice on this specific topic.

My partner received the result yesterday and HSV-1 virus and blisters were detected on her female part.
I think that's bad, but also glad it wasn't HSV-2.

I will go and get myself checked out over the weekend. Beforehand, may I ask a couple of further questions:
1. Since my partner is now HSV-1 positive and if I'm not, we would like to have a family (involves BBFS) in the future. Does it mean this will not be possible without me being transmitted too?
2. If HSV-1 couldn't be detected on my dick, does it mean HSV-1 only lives in my mouth/lips? hence, I should avoid any kissing activities/sharing food etc. in the future to not spread this virus further.

I understand this virus won't kill but it's annoying. Up until now, I have not discovered any obvious symptoms or it doesn't bother me physically yet.
But now, thinking back, I wonder why I often have cold sores during winter. But warmer seasons are fine.

Ok so, if she came back positive for HSV-1 and they did a swap on her blisters and also confirms HSV-1, we are pretty sure she has genital herpes. Both HSV-1 and HSV-2 can cause genital herpes, she just may have the slightly milder strain, but she effectively has genital herpes. The recurrence of outbreaks for HSV-1 is roughly 1/3 while HSV-2 outreaks are a bit more common like 2/3s. To answer your question...

1. If after you get tested, and you aren't HSV-1 positive, you can obviously still have BBFS. Like I said earlier, when she doesn't have an outbreak. So I assume she either has a prescription for acyclovir (an anti-viral medication) or is going to get one that will help if the blisters are bad. However, if it has progressed enough, the anti-virals don't do much, her body's own immune system will fight off the infection usually in about 2-3 weeks. During this time when she has an active infection, with symptoms, she is much more at risk to transmit this virus to you if you guys do BBFS. I suggest avoiding that, or use protection (condoms are your best bet) to lower the risk of transmission to you. While she is healed and has no active infection, the transmission rate is quite low, although still possible. Some patients who have really bad outbreaks, can take acyclovir or similar antiviral as a preventative medication before trying for BBFS with their partner for conception. Another thing to consider once you guys do become pregnant is she probably may want to elect having a c-section due to possible transmission to your baby through the birth canal with a natural birth, that would not be good. So yes, you can protect yourself (If you use a condom all the time) or only doing BBFS during when she has no symptoms to lower your risk (doesn't mean no risk though)

2. While like others have said, the virus is in your body forever, it likes to stay dormant in a particular area of your spinal cord avoiding your immune system. It also likes to travel down in that same nerve back to its original infection site. So whether you got it first on your lips, or your genitals, thats USUALLY where it likes to go back to. So yes if you get cold sores and its HSV-1, you are unlikely to contract HSV-1 genital herpes. There has been cases where you do get concurrent infections in two areas, but is much more rare. It doesn't mean you can't get cold sores from HSV-1 on your lips then HSV-2 genital herpes however, that is more common. The best part to avoid transmission is to avoid contact of the blisters (whether genital or sore) during an active infection, and wait till it heals up as your viral load would be much lower then.

If you normally have cold sores, you probably already have HSV-1. As someone have mentioned, your immune system is a bit lowered during cold weather, so the virus becomes more opportunitistic in the colder months. You may have given that to her during DATY if she has never contracted HSV-1. Although I assume you kiss her more often then DATY, but who knows. Maybe you guys just get down like that.

schingchang
29-06-2018, 07:57 PM
This is a good article: https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/virally-misunderstood-20121123-29y5b.html

“Neonatal herpes, infection of a newborn baby, can have devastating consequences but is extremely rare in Australia. It is important for women and their partners planning a pregnancy to know that neonatal herpes only occurs when the virus is caught for the first time in the very late stage of pregnancy and not in women experiencing recurrent outbreaks.”

You’re much better talking to a GP about it though than relying on anonymous random people on a forum or anything on the internet really.

Yea...and the reason it is rare because...the pregnant women....get c-sections...like...I...said. Can't get herpes if the baby never goes down the rabbit hole.

Although I do agree it is better talking to a doctor in the flesh. The physicians at the sexual health clinics are better suited then your run of the mill GP though. They are generally much more knowlegable on STIs. For pregnancy related issues, I suggest your favorite OB/GYN. It is alot better then random people like me on the internet, who knows, I could just be quoting different internet articles.

schingchang
29-06-2018, 08:09 PM
Lol, does that make logical sense to you? Like even if you didn't know anything about medicine. Why would the virus not be transmissable the second time around? ...The virus is just like nah, I wouldn't want to infect this newborn who has barely any immune system, I'll skip that.

If they got an active genital herpes infection going on late in their 3rd trimester, planned c-section will definitely be discussed.

schingchang
29-06-2018, 08:29 PM
Ok cool, lets play with the stats then instead of quoting some news article. Most recent article in the Journal of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, 2014. James et al.,

"Mother-to-child transmission can occur in utero (5%), during the peripartum period (85%), or postnatally (10%) [15]. HSV is not transmitted through breast milk; rather, postnatal acquisition of HSV is due to direct contact with a person shedding the virus, usually via an orolabial or other cutaneous lesion. " - So..peripartum peroid..through contact with labia through birth canal (hence get a c-section). Check.

"Because of the increasing incidence of HSV-1 genital infections, the majority of neonatal HSV infections in many parts of the world now are caused by HSV-1 " OP's significant partner has HSV-1. Check.

"Brown et al. demonstrated an increased transmission risk of 57% in women with first-episode primary genital infections, and a 2% risk increase in those with recurrent genital lesions" Hmmm doesn't appear to be 0%. Not sure if you want to gamble having your kid acquire something with a 1/3 mortality rate and permanent morbidity. Check.

schingchang
29-06-2018, 08:46 PM
The virus is thinking that mom passed a few antibodies over via the placenta. So it ain't as easy but it sure isn't 0%.

I mean hey, I know most bros on here like to gamble with their own lives, myself included. But that ain't fair to your maybe future child right? Come on.

Yogurt
29-06-2018, 11:45 PM
Google image Herpes and i dont think so i will go daty ....

suede
29-06-2018, 11:47 PM
can we stop bumping this thread. putting everyone off punting.
just wear condom with sex and dont do business if you or lady has cold sore. thats it

Bawal
01-07-2018, 03:46 PM
If you already have HSV1 in your system (lets say in your mouth) and she has HSV1 down there and you do BBFS, then you wont get it in your dick because you already have it. Dont worry too much bud. HSV1 is common. I got tested because i was curious to know and apparently i got HSV1 too but never had a breakout. You have cold sores in winter because your immune system is low.

I aint in the medical field so i might be wrong but i did a lot of research myself before
Thanks krnboy. After thinking this issue through, I actually feel like the issue is more common than most people think. As you (also the GP) said, people can easily get affected by HSV-1 when immune system is weak and especially during winter time. e.g. cold sores, mouth ulcers etc.


Yea...and the reason it is rare because...the pregnant women....get c-sections...like...I...said. Can't get herpes if the baby never goes down the rabbit hole.

Although I do agree it is better talking to a doctor in the flesh. The physicians at the sexual health clinics are better suited then your run of the mill GP though. They are generally much more knowlegable on STIs. For pregnancy related issues, I suggest your favorite OB/GYN. It is alot better then random people like me on the internet, who knows, I could just be quoting different internet articles.

Thanks bro schingchang, I read all your posts and I think they had more substance than what I heard from the GP :)


can we stop bumping this thread. putting everyone off punting.
just wear condom with sex and dont do business if you or lady has cold sore. thats it
When I punt, I always wear the dom and I don't do DFK or DATY. Only in some occasions, the cheeky lady will give light kisses for goodbye or fun. But yea, I don't punt when I got flu, cold sore or mouth ulcers etc.

Anyway, up to the community now whether you'd like to continue on this topic. But I do feel much much better now compare to when I first posted. Thanks heaps to krnboy and schingchang again! Excellent info throughout, hope others could benefit too.

quackm2002
01-07-2018, 06:15 PM
You should not be put off posting what you want. Good luck

schingchang
01-07-2018, 08:37 PM
You should not be put off posting what you want. Good luck

Agreed. Always better to be informed then have your head in the sand. Good luck Bawal, it'll be ok.

suede
01-07-2018, 09:42 PM
sti are important discussion but next time from the very start, we need to post a few reputable australian medical links that specialise in stis. can anyone suggest aussie sites

schingchang
01-07-2018, 09:52 PM
...google................

suede
01-07-2018, 09:59 PM
dr google is a dangerous recommendation.
someone start the next sti thread with links to the nsw health site
www.playsafe.health.nsw.gov.au/sti/herpes

or the usa best site is
https://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/default.htm

cuteguy
02-07-2018, 01:35 AM
dr google is a dangerous recommendation.
someone start the next sti thread with links to the nsw health site
www.playsafe.health.nsw.gov.au/sti/herpes

or the usa best site is
https://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/default.htm

Very informative. It would be nice if they could show actual images of the STIs.

schingchang
02-07-2018, 05:07 AM
I mean...google STI australia or any variation of that. Then pick your favorite .gov site. Pretty self explanatory. The majority of the patients I see all have some preconcieved information already. However, alot of these government websites are under a "public health" promotion/policy, so they tend to...skew the information in that way.

The TL;DR of the best recommendation if you are worried/have symptoms/engaging in ANY risky behavior is to get tested regularly (every 3 months) and talk to your GP/sexual clinic about your worries. This is the best way to help yourself and your community.

suede
02-07-2018, 07:58 AM
pictures would be a good idea
but herpes can look like syphilis can look like other things. Even the experts need to swab the ulcer to know what the diagnosis is

liminal
02-07-2018, 12:18 PM
What now is the point of this thread ?

To try convince the partner that she gave the OP an STD/I

To offer condolences

To provide informed advice ?

lemonaus
02-07-2018, 05:41 PM
appreciate your sharing

liminal
02-07-2018, 08:51 PM
appreciate your sharing

Shared my conciliatory thoughts on pg1

The medical opinions factual and other have been proffered

The funny profane and perverse excuses evolved

Empathetic pat on the shoulder and shake of the heads noted.

Though am waiting for what the OP comes back to Add, post first test results ...

uunlimited
02-07-2018, 10:09 PM
Thanks for sharing. Imo most ppl wouldn't share it if they caught something. Not sure if it was coincidences, i had UTi 3 times after visiting two famous shops on different occasions. I didn't do anal just to be clear. Each time scared the shit out of me waiting for STI test results. No more bbbj and dfk for me. Well i kind of quit now.

jm2141mj
04-07-2018, 12:14 AM
Thanks for sharing. You really might need to consider coming clean, and please don't visit any WL and do nothing without a condom until after your test.

cuteguy
04-07-2018, 05:56 PM
Thanks for sharing. You really might need to consider coming clean, and please don't visit any WL and do nothing without a condom until after your test.

Definitely don't see any WL or ML in the meantime. Let little Johnny rest for a while.

AHLUNGOR
04-07-2018, 07:13 PM
Thanks for sharing. You really might need to consider coming clean, and please don't visit any WL and do nothing without a condom until after your test.

And how could you stop the partner from still screwing around bare back ?

cuteguy
14-07-2018, 08:58 PM
Has there been final closure on this one? What was the result? I'm sure everyone is curious to know who was responsible here?

liminal
14-07-2018, 09:35 PM
Maybe look on gumtree where you see a vindictive wife selling an RS4 for cheap 😳😂😂😂

krnboy
16-07-2018, 06:28 PM
Thanks for sharing. Imo most ppl wouldn't share it if they caught something. Not sure if it was coincidences, i had UTi 3 times after visiting two famous shops on different occasions. I didn't do anal just to be clear. Each time scared the shit out of me waiting for STI test results. No more bbbj and dfk for me. Well i kind of quit now.

Sucks for you but I had gonor three times. Bit weary about punting nowadays so don't do it as often. But just remember with the clap, there are some strains out there that cannot cure with a jab. These strains are resistant to antibiotics so be careful. Don't be silly and protect your willy

krnboy
16-07-2018, 08:41 PM
Here’s another one to worry about.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-18/mg-sexually-transmitted-superbug-youve-never-heard-of/9336042

We are fucked now...

bbongobboy
16-07-2018, 11:41 PM
Help Chaps!

You should know that an estimated 2/3s of the worlds population have been exposed to HSV1/2. Most people are unaware that they have been exposed and often initial exposure symptoms are delayed or indeed will never occur.

BB

d3nz0
19-07-2018, 01:42 PM
Risk and reward hahaha