Falling for a WL. What do you do?

[vitamin]

After some recent posts. I'm curious.

For those of us who punt frequently, do we inevitably gravitate towards a regular lady?
do we inescapably develop feelings in these stone cold gravel heart of ours?

Or does everyone see them as objects, tools for self gratification? use them and lose em.... and only the few are the exceptions.

What does one do when feelings start to creep in? day dream, suppress, fantasise, change ladies, time for a break??

I've rarely developed long term deep attachments in my normal relationships IRL and Defiantly NEVER imagine with a WL.
However i have come across one where I've recently found my self wondering. What would it would be like to date her? Asking a lot of what ifs, day dream, what is she up to and wishing i could talk to her.
KNOWING FULL WELL this are some fucked up thoughts.

OF COURSE I KNOW!!!

I know logically it's a no go zone, only spells trouble and IT'S JUST SEX.
i should stop, but at the same time i want to see her again.

On the one hand i'm telling myself, you fucking idiot. Stop pussying around, she's just a trick, i know. I KNOW!!
Yet at the same time my brain feels like it's developing split personality disorder and wants to do it's own thing and like this girl.

For the time being, the emotions aren't that strong. BUT!!! if keep seeing her ..................?????????????????????
How do you see your favourite without wanting to see her more? it feels like a self digging hole.

This mental tug a war is a bitch. Knowing something is bad but still wanting it.
Staying up to binge that series knowing you have work tomorrow.
Playing one more stupid game with exams and assignments looming.
Eating them junk food with elevated blood markers.
Taking out more money at the Casino fulling knowing you need to stop

Whatever your poison.

"Knowing", is one thing. But resisting them dopamine hits is a whole different story.

Surely i can't be alone who's danced with the devil. (sexually transmitted Feelings.)

BACKGROUND
I can count on 3 fingers how many times in my life where I've met a girl and my brain just stopped working. Where i don't give a fuck who they are what they do and just want them in my life. And this girl is 1 of them.

"Of all the shit pits, in all the towns, in all the world, I Had to meet her at a shop."

I'm 90% sure i ain't gonna do anything, and this whole phase will pass. It's the 10% that's scary.

[aussiegaigin]

Gee, we haven't had this topic here for the last couple of months.

Of course you want to see her again. So do dozens of other guys, most probably. That's how she gets business.

[beta101]

After some recent posts. I'm curious.

For those of us who punt frequently, do we inevitably gravitate towards a regular lady?
do we inescapably develop feelings in these stone cold gravel heart of ours?

Or does everyone see them as objects, tools for self gratification? use them and lose em.... and only the few are the exceptions.

What does one do when feelings start to creep in? day dream, suppress, fantasise, change ladies, time for a break??

I've rarely developed long term deep attachments in my normal relationships IRL and Defiantly NEVER imagine with a WL.
However i have come across one where I've recently found my self wondering. What would it would be like to date her? Asking a lot of what ifs, day dream, what is she up to and wishing i could talk to her.
KNOWING FULL WELL this are some fucked up thoughts.

OF COURSE I KNOW!!!

I know logically it's a no go zone, only spells trouble and IT'S JUST SEX.
i should stop, but at the same time i want to see her again.

On the one hand i'm telling myself, you fucking idiot. Stop pussying around, she's just a trick, i know. I KNOW!!
Yet at the same time my brain feels like it's developing split personality disorder and wants to do it's own thing and like this girl.

For the time being, the emotions aren't that strong. BUT!!! if keep seeing her ..................?????????????????????
How do you see your favourite without wanting to see her more? it feels like a self digging hole.

This mental tug a war is a bitch. Knowing something is bad but still wanting it.
Staying up to binge that series knowing you have work tomorrow.
Playing one more stupid game with exams and assignments looming.
Eating them junk food with elevated blood markers.
Taking out more money at the Casino fulling knowing you need to stop

Whatever your poison.

"Knowing", is one thing. But resisting them dopamine hits is a whole different story.

Surely i can't be alone who's danced with the devil. (sexually transmitted Feelings.)

BACKGROUND
I can count on 3 fingers how many times in my life where I've met a girl and my brain just stopped working. Where i don't give a fuck who they are what they do and just want them in my life. And this girl is 1 of them.

"Of all the shit pits, in all the towns, in all the world, I Had to meet her at a shop."

I'm 90% sure i ain't gonna do anything, and this whole phase will pass. It's the 10% that's scary.

For me, I try to rule out any wls with dd n dd on Indian history lol. Love can't overcome shit.

Tell us the shop name bro or pm? I dated a few from different shops. I will shares what's feasible from my experience.

Is it Lily from n5m? Lol

[Brothelcreeper]

This topic has been overdone on the forum many times.

Let's not go there again

If you date a WL it will bring you initial pleasure, then only pain and anguish. I guarantee it.

You will sit at your desk at work wondering whose cock is currently in her mouth, who she is DFKing and orgasming with, who is currently licking her pussy, who has recently cum in her mouth, does she enjoy sex with other punters more than you, etc etc etc.

You will enjoy the short time she spends with you and those times will be short as they often work 15 hour days, 6 or 7 days a week.

But you will hate the long days and nights that she is at work fucking 10 guys a day. You will hate reading reviews on her and what others are doing to her and how she was "enjoying" being fucked by them.

Is that what you want ?

Date a non WL and use the WL's for fun and sex.

[Peter69]

Run mate fucken run & don’t look back! Truth!

[Riff888]

There still might be a chance, I know one who is married, happily married I'm not so sure since the money is not the same. But she and husband have a restaurant in Newcastle.

Can you provide the same lifestyle she leads now if she stops working? Even if she stops working in shops, she could have a long list of privates, you'll just never know.

So if she's willing to stop, there's a chance for a long term relationship but you'll be forever paranoid of people recognising her and your family finding out.

[Weapon]

You already know how it ends. You have diagnosed yourself early. You know how to fix it, its all up to you.

Of course we gravitate and that's why we are regulars with some WLs. Doesn't mean we need to date them. A WL who does her job properly will make you feel good on a physical and emotional level, and it is just that, a WL who does a good JOB.

Some people who have served in the army cant go back to living normal lives. I believe this to be true for some WLs too.

[Hu6e]

Run to the hills!!!
Run for your life!!

Weapon and BC have it on point.
Listen to those that have gone before us. Learn from others mistakes.

[Momoe]

What the fun if there's no adventure or misadventure. You should be your own judge

If a girl only expects or wants $$$ and presents from you, run away
If a girl never expects anything from you and some rather spend their own money, you may have a chance

[b00bs]

Hasnt the rejection of superbear and beta101 by WLs recently taught you boys anything? Haha

If you dont have enough money to sponsor these girls, I suggest you dont bother getting in your feelings. Stop simping fellas

[bronte]

Book her whenever she works in the next 2 weeks. By the end of it, she’ll be out of your system.




























Unless you’re like Assandlegs, then it’ll take a lot more than that LOL !

[Assandlegs]

Book her whenever she works in the next 2 weeks. By the end of it, she’ll be out of your system.




























Unless you’re like Assandlegs, then it’ll take a lot more than that LOL !

Tried that, and you're spot on... didn't work for me... tried booking everyday for the last 3 weeks... still didn't work... <shrugs>

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[beta101]

Tried that, and you're spot on... didn't work for me... tried booking everyday for the last 3 weeks... still didn't work... <shrugs>

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Sure way to end the feeling is date her. Then make enemies on forums n publicly announce the girl. Then u will never see that girl again cause all the sick bastards on the forums will stded her to oblivion or u can't really hold the thought of the girl u love fucking all the people u hate.

Shit got dark real soon D:

Lol we just helped our lover boy superpedobear over sweet Lily n5m lol

[Assandlegs]

Sure way to end the feeling is date her n give up all ur person info. Then make enemies on forums n publicly out the girls. Then u will never see that girl again cause all the sick bastards on the forums will stded her to oblivion.

Shit got dark real soon D:Haha... I am already hated enough just for seeing her as often as I do (you should see my inbox!!)... I worked out that during her last block of working, I have seen her for 21 sessions over 21 days totalling 41 hours together (including the double session) ....

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[beta101]

Haha... I am already hated enough just for seeing her as often as I do (you should see my inbox!!)... I worked out that during her last block of working, I have seen her for 21 sessions over 21 days totalling 41 hours together (including the double session) ....

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Lol share her in public? Then u will be out of her spell.

Or we can exchange our girls in pm lol

[vitamin]

Forget about all the losers . This is what you got ask yourself

1) is she interest in you or she only want to see you as a client or only use you for a reason. If not interest but only as a client then run
2) Dose she like her job as WL and be going to do it for long time yes Run
3) Is it her long term plan to be WL because she too lazy to get another job if yes run
4) Why is she doing the job , too lazy to get a job or has a high spending habit, just make quick money then go back home . run
5) Do you get along with each other if no . Only like to fuck her run.
6) Are willing or can you support her is she doen't become a Wl and get a normal work . If not run
7) If you are one of those thoese lazy bums and being on social welfare half of your life .Never have any money then don't bother .
8) Do you really want a relationship or just want to fuck . and your feeling is only tempory . Run if you don't want a relationship

Its just like the dating a non Wl you got to qualify them .Not everyone is going to be a relationship material There are also Bad , Gold diggers and bad relationship materials with the Non WL lady as well . True that the WL has been fucked so many time but at least they are hot and fuckable .you can also have a bad non Wl who got bad attitute , ugly , demanding . not fuckable . who fuck alot guys . use all your money .



1) Yes She does.(i could be majorly wrong) but i like to believe i've been with enough WL to know when it's a show, when they are just fond of you as a client or just doing their job.
with her, i could sense the gradual change in attitude from a it's my job to genuine liking.

How much? didn't dare to ask, Because i don't want the answer to be favourable.


2 - 7)
Never asked, because those are answers i would want IF i was SERIOUSLY considering it, BUT i'm trying to STOP.
So why ask for the price if i don't want to buy. "logically" emotional is a different story.


8) I've played this out in my head already.
in a perfect world
lets say
she quits job. and we date.

I'm level headed. so thought experiment.
We Date but then what? what other job is she qualified for? I have money to support her comfortably, But definitely not WL income amount.
How would she feel with the sudden drop in income? is this situation sustainable long term?

i don't know them out side the shop. what if they have a shit ton of baggage with them. Not level headed. Bat shit crazy.
Totally unfair for her to put her in that situation.


What i'm trying to say is

I KNOW NOT TO GO THERE.


i was just referring to the emotional thing.


knowing something is bad for you. But yet you still want to do it
like gambling
addicted to gaming
social media instead of working
smoking
drugs
alcohol


you mentally know you have to stop but emotionally wanna keep going.

simply telling a smoker to stop smoking doesn't help right?


It's the emotional component that's hard to just turn on and off like a switch.



This topic has been overdone on the forum many times.

Let's not go there again



i'm not saying I've fallen in love with a girl

i'm simply saying, What do you do if and when you find someone you really like. How do you guys just witch off the feelings like a button.

[vitamin]

1) Yes She does.(i could be majorly wrong) but i like to believe i've been with enough WL to know when it's a show, when they are just fond of you as a client or just doing their job.
with her, i could sense the gradual change in attitude from a it's my job to genuine liking.

How much? didn't dare to ask, Because i don't want the answer to be favourable.


2 - 7)
Never asked, because those are answers i would want IF i was SERIOUSLY considering it, BUT i'm trying to STOP.
So why ask for the price if i don't want to buy. "logically" emotional is a different story.


8) I've played this out in my head already.
in a perfect world
lets say
she quits job. and we date.

I'm level headed. so thought experiment.
We Date but then what? what other job is she qualified for? I have money to support her comfortably, But definitely not WL income amount.
How would she feel with the sudden drop in income? is this situation sustainable long term?

i don't know them out side the shop. what if they have a shit ton of baggage with them. Not level headed. Bat shit crazy.
Totally unfair for her to put her in that situation.


What i'm trying to say is

I KNOW NOT TO GO THERE.


i was just referring to the emotional thing.


knowing something is bad for you. But yet you still want to do it
like gambling
addicted to gaming
social media instead of working
smoking
drugs
alcohol


you mentally know you have to stop but emotionally wanna keep going.

simply telling a smoker to stop smoking doesn't help right?


It's the emotional component that's hard to just turn on and off like a switch.




i'm not saying I've fallen in love with a girl

i'm simply saying, What do you do if and when you find someone you really like. How do you guys just witch off the feelings like a button.



Haha... I am already hated enough just for seeing her as often as I do (you should see my inbox!!)... I worked out that during her last block of working, I have seen her for 21 sessions over 21 days totalling 41 hours together (including the double session) ....

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Dude just buy shares in the establishment

41 hours in 3 weeks @ 280/h is 11.5k AUD

that's crazy man

[beta101]

Not everbody has the money like you to be able to do 21 sessions over 21 days.

Guys shop name n girl name? Lol

[LookingForTheOne]

If you dont have enough money to sponsor these girls, I suggest you dont bother getting in your feelings. Stop simping fellas

Why would you need to have money to sponsor them. If They want to stay in the country, they should pay you. I got offered $40k to sponsor a Vietnamese Massage Girl that worked in Sydney 3 months ago which I turned down being already married. She told me some girls are willing to paying upto $100k.

The downside is all of the above. She is only a massage girl but they have sex too in the right situation and feelings are the same.

[tan30]

You write like a 16 year old horny for their fist gf, no doubt even more so considering the post was at 2am. Get over it, theres been many more dicks in her mouth so just think about that the next time you fantasize holding her hand. There are non WLs out there that are probably 100x better for you.

[beta101]

You write like a 16 year old horny for their fist gf, no doubt even more so considering the post was at 2am. Get over it, theres been many more dicks in her mouth so just think about that the next time you fantasize holding her hand. There are non WLs out there that are probably 100x better for you.

lol give the kid a break. puppy love is cute lol

[Hu6e]

Why would you need to have money to sponsor them. If They want to stay in the country, they should pay you. I got offered $40k to sponsor a Vietnamese Massage Girl that worked in Sydney 3 months ago which I turned down being already married. She told me some girls are willing to paying upto $100k.

The downside is all of the above. She is only a massage girl but they have sex too in the right situation and feelings are the same.

40k?
Sign me up.. I'll give a spotters fee.
I got dual citizen of another country too... I'll auction my shit off to the highest bidder.

[beta101]

40k?
Sign me up.. I'll give a spotters fee.
I got dual citizen of another country too... I'll auction my shit off to the highest bidder.

nobody want to marry a sheep furry

[Riff888]

Marrying is not enough with the new immigration laws.

You have to prove you've been in a relationship for over 2 years. They will ask for proof like social media posts, pictures, talk to friends.

Unless she claims domestic violence and gets the PR card while you are in a mess trying to prove your innocence.

[Hu6e]

Marrying is not enough with the new immigration laws.

You have to prove you've been in a relationship for over 2 years. They will ask for proof like social media posts, pictures, talk to friends.

Unless she claims domestic violence and gets the PR card while you are in a mess trying to prove your innocence.

I've got a rough idea of what to do ;)

[traveller1]

A Chinese girl asked me if I’d marry her friend for $150,000 a couple of years ago.

Was enough to think about it for a minute.

I was seriously considering sponsor a girl recently then I found out she was going out and sleeping with another guy argh!!!. Be careful, these girls get to meet and know many guys at work and outside environment.

[b00bs]

Why would you need to have money to sponsor them. If They want to stay in the country, they should pay you. I got offered $40k to sponsor a Vietnamese Massage Girl that worked in Sydney 3 months ago which I turned down being already married. She told me some girls are willing to paying upto $100k.

The downside is all of the above. She is only a massage girl but they have sex too in the right situation and feelings are the same.

You sponsor them, or they pay you for a green card. Same same. All im saying is money talks. Some of the boys here are turning down 40k to 150k. So imagine what a top earning WL is turning down.....

[tan30]

lol give the kid a break. puppy love is cute lol

What he needs is tough love and a massive dose of another wl

[beta101]

What he needs is tough love and a massive dose of another wl

You are right of course. But his probably getting ultra gfe from someone he likes. Not so easy to get the same high from another wl.

Source: not myself lol

[beta101]

If it is Lily, FYI I have been fucking the shit out of her and I have a pretty huge cock as well. What's great about her is she can take the whole thing no issues.

Don't know if that helps or not.

Lol. Depends. Are u Indian n did u get dd from her?

[Effindahead]

I am actually on the same boat as OP. Been seeing the WL for few months. Texting everyday like a couple and we know we like each other, we even said so. I know this is classic, every WL would say so. We went out once after a session, she told her boss that she is hungry and need an hour break then she asked me if i want to go for dinner and so we did. Ive been doing it raw for the last 3 meetings in a span of 2 weeks with her, asked her why? She initially said cos i wanted but then admitted by saying cos she likes me. I know that is stupid but man Come What May!
I still have doubts, questions in my mind but it is what it is, time will tell, heart may break, i may regret it later but thats consequences of tryna find the right one.
I don't see a WL like most people do. They are like us, have feelings. They sleep with different guys everyday so did millions of girls out there. You never know. Prolly the difference is not as much as WLs. You can date or have relationship with "normal girl" but if you like any WL or starts develop feelings towards her, why don't u go for it? If you are meant to be with the person then you will be.

At the end of the day, most of you may had bad experience with WLs but that does not mean one cannot have a better experience does it?

If you wanna know the girl, here is the clue
She used to work at 5star, moved to an agency then recently moved to another one. Some people say shes no longer working but she still does. She is Korean, late 20s, long dyed brownish hair with limited English.

I will update you guys on how I go with her...

[vitamin]

I already know what i have to do
I didn't mean for the post to become so personal, and about me.

I was simply asking what you guys did when you start to get feelings.

[Riff888]

I personally believe it can work but can you handle that she's probably slept with thousands of men?

It takes great maturity to let that go.

Then take her away from Sydney if possible and open a cafe. This seems to be a working formula.

[beta101]

I am actually on the same boat as OP. Been seeing the WL for few months. Texting everyday like a couple and we know we like each other, we even said so. I know this is classic, every WL would say so. We went out once after a session, she told her boss that she is hungry and need an hour break then she asked me if i want to go for dinner and so we did. Ive been doing it raw for the last 3 meetings in a span of 2 weeks with her, asked her why? She initially said cos i wanted but then admitted by saying cos she likes me. I know that is stupid but man Come What May!
I still have doubts, questions in my mind but it is what it is, time will tell, heart may break, i may regret it later but thats consequences of tryna find the right one.
I don't see a WL like most people do. They are like us, have feelings. They sleep with different guys everyday so did millions of girls out there. You never know. Prolly the difference is not as much as WLs. You can date or have relationship with "normal girl" but if you like any WL or starts develop feelings towards her, why don't u go for it? If you are meant to be with the person then you will be.

At the end of the day, most of you may had bad experience with WLs but that does not mean one cannot have a better experience does it?

If you wanna know the girl, here is the clue
She used to work at 5star, moved to an agency then recently moved to another one. Some people say shes no longer working but she still does. She is Korean, late 20s, long dyed brownish hair with limited English.

I will update you guys on how I go with her...

Milan? She is top quality well done. Respect!

[woods23]

Milan? She is top quality well done. Respect!

That's the biggest busllhit I had ever heard.

[xboyx]

just go for her mate, it's an experience and good memory to keep
in a few months or a year time you may end up breaking up with her but you'll have all the fun and good memories to keep. bad things could happen but it's part of life, just always stay in control and don't lose tons of money on her

KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL while having the fun and the excitement. Life is not fun if everyone just plays safe.

PS: btw name her and name the shop, let us help you LOL

[vitamin]

I am actually on the same boat as OP. Been seeing the WL for few months. Texting everyday like a couple and we know we like each other, we even said so. I know this is classic, every WL would say so. We went out once after a session, she told her boss that she is hungry and need an hour break then she asked me if i want to go for dinner and so we did. Ive been doing it raw for the last 3 meetings in a span of 2 weeks with her, asked her why? She initially said cos i wanted but then admitted by saying cos she likes me. I know that is stupid but man Come What May!
I still have doubts, questions in my mind but it is what it is, time will tell, heart may break, i may regret it later but thats consequences of tryna find the right one.
I don't see a WL like most people do. They are like us, have feelings. They sleep with different guys everyday so did millions of girls out there. You never know. Prolly the difference is not as much as WLs. You can date or have relationship with "normal girl" but if you like any WL or starts develop feelings towards her, why don't u go for it? If you are meant to be with the person then you will be.

At the end of the day, most of you may had bad experience with WLs but that does not mean one cannot have a better experience does it?


Thanks for sharing.

So do you ever see her outside of the shop apart from that 1 dinner?
as in go on dates etc?

[juknov]

OP mentioned he has feelings. We all do.

But discussing feelings in punting is like discussing skiing in Africa. The two do not go together

[Effindahead]

Thanks for sharing.

So do you ever see her outside of the shop apart from that 1 dinner?
as in go on dates etc?

Not yet but we will. It is not as smooth as it seems. I have asked 6 times but she always had excuses, not that she lied but shes truly couldnt go.
I met her today, overall she told me she doesnt believe me..yet. fair enough cos i met her at the place a couple would never imagine lol
She told me she puts me in her diary. I found this out cos i told her weve been knowing each other for 2 months but she said it is only a month lol and she told non wl friend about me too. We exchange photos, not just ours but our relatives too.
Shes quite sincere which I like and I always told her not to lie and emphasize it in a way that it is ok to tell the truth
So far we are at the stage of liking each other, we know we need more time.

[Effindahead]

It might be true as 5star said Milan is no longer working as she is getting married
But not to me lol

[Effindahead]

OP needs to listen to "Solve My Mystery by Oasis/Noel Gallagher" and pay attention to the lyrics. Thatd help

[vitamin]

OP needs to listen to "Solve My Mystery by Oasis/Noel Gallagher" and pay attention to the lyrics. Thatd help

I'm in limbo. Gonna take a break. and Sleep on it.
Not do anything for the time being.

No matter how i look at it. She's WL, the odds are very slim of anything good coming from it.

[Weapon]

Not yet but we will. It is not as smooth as it seems. I have asked 6 times but she always had excuses, not that she lied but shes truly couldnt go.


What are some of these excuses? I probably would have stopped asking after the 3rd time, if i was really keen to waste a few years of my life.

[Jactivate]

Some WLs I've seen outside of shops only really want you for Permanent Residency. Haha!

[Effindahead]

Oh that’s bad luck . I think you’ll be more happier with her . What her plan , continues to be a WL all her life or only doing it to paid for school fee ect . There was a WL in 5 Star was only doing it to paid for her uni fees . Once she had enough she quit being a WL and went on to career.

With who? Milan? How is she? Never meet her before. And yeah, the girl said she will quit next year.

[Effindahead]

Well i always ask her to go out on weekend. She works 5 days a week, first one was she said she needs to find a new place which she will move to in two weeks time, 2nd we were about to meet up in city but last minute she cancelled it cos her friend brought her food - this one is quite lame, 3rd she was sick for a week, 4th or 5th i cant recall and 6th for her bday, she said she had a plan with her friend

[Weapon]

Well i always ask her to go out on weekend. She works 5 days a week, first one was she said she needs to find a new place which she will move to in two weeks time, 2nd we were about to meet up in city but last minute she cancelled it cos her friend brought her food - this one is quite lame, 3rd she was sick for a week, 4th or 5th i cant recall and 6th for her bday, she said she had a plan with her friend

No JOY hey? Update us.

[juknov]

Excuses..
If she liked you she would not have excuses
If she liked you she would contact you and arrange to meet up
When women make excuses its because they dont value you, they rely on you to read between the lines and realise they dont want to see you

[CunningLinguist]

Excuses..
If she liked you she would not have excuses
If she liked you she would contact you and arrange to meet up
When women make excuses its because they dont value you, they rely on you to read between the lines and realise they dont want to see you

Thats right. If you plan something with them then they want to break the plan because something just came up then it means they don't give a rats arse about you and you are just the backup plan if they have nothing better to do.

[juknov]

Women often find it hard to say to a man, "Im not interested", or "I have better options"

If you plan something with them and they break the plan, 99 times out of 100 they have other priorities - either another date, or family committments.

A women who likes your company will contact you again to make up for the lost date

The problem with men they act like they have to chase, when in fact chasing often gets you nowhere

Someone else here say it right:

Be the buyer not the seller

[beta101]

It might be true as 5star said Milan is no longer working as she is getting married

Lucky guy :"""D

[chemistry84]

Mate don't do it, like others have said she's probably had millions of cocks in her mouth, taken many CIM and what not. If you get together and marry her, whats not to say she'll be taking more dick while you're gone?

Some WL actually enjoy fucking many guys and getting paid for it, similar to us punters fucking different girls. I personally wouldn't date a WL or ever fall for one. Probably only thing i would do is go for coffee and ask for a fuck afterwards but that's about it. Most of them have an agenda (PR, House/lifestyle etc) and I suppose the asian WL i fuck their broken English would turn me right off.

[vitamin]

Mate don't do it, like others have said she's probably had millions of cocks in her mouth, taken many CIM and what not. If you get together and marry her, whats not to say she'll be taking more dick while you're gone?

Some WL actually enjoy fucking many guys and getting paid for it, similar to us punters fucking different girls. I personally wouldn't date a WL or ever fall for one. Probably only thing i would do is go for coffee and ask for a fuck afterwards but that's about it. Most of them have an agenda (PR, House/lifestyle etc) and I suppose the asian WL i fuck their broken English would turn me right off.

I can't stand the Chinese Thai or Viet accent.

Japs, Koreans on the other hand. Different story.

Culturally the Chinese are a tad more self serving and selfish, willing to step over anyone's grave so long as it benifits them. (probably a byproduct of great leap forward/cultural revolution and huge population)
Evidence in
gutter oil
killer baby formular
plastic rice

So a C WL i'd definitely be worried.

Other nationality i would probably be a bit more relaxed about them not going behind my back fucking dudes for money.

[Targayayuka]

Well i always ask her to go out on weekend. She works 5 days a week, first one was she said she needs to find a new place which she will move to in two weeks time, 2nd we were about to meet up in city but last minute she cancelled it cos her friend brought her food - this one is quite lame, 3rd she was sick for a week, 4th or 5th i cant recall and 6th for her bday, she said she had a plan with her friend

It's Joy isn't it?

[Targayayuka]

I've met up with a WL outside of the shop for the first time ever a while ago. She wanted me to teach her some stuff in the gym, and we ended up having dinner after. It felt like a friends type of thing, and I have seen her a couple more times after at two different shops. She always seems to message me at least once a week.

It's a little bit unusual because I know what exactly 'this' is, but I still allow myself to think 'what if' for my own entertainment. Then I always return back to reality with a couple of other thoughts and past experiences, kinda like a totem from Inception. That's what's keeping me from catching feelings.

It's all in the game, yo....

[b00bs]

It's all in the game, yo....

The game is the game......

"Ain't no nostalgia to this shit here! There's just the street, and the game, and what happen here today." - Melvin 'Cheese' Wagstaff

https://youtu.be/7rWuJ3eD6Qc

[vitamin]

Catch the feelings bro, fuck it. It's hard reconciling all the dick they take, but at the end of the day she's just after what everyone else is: someone who isn't a total cunt to spend her time with.

Some if not most of these girls are so innocent in their behaviour, not your typical rebels or bad asses or what Hollywood portrays.

As for the hundreds/thousands of dicks.

It depends on how you look at it.
if you put your hand up against the glass and someone else puts their hand up on the other side.
DID YOU REALLY TOUCH THEM?
Now make that glass thinner and made from latex. :)

But the more I've gotten to know this specific girl the more her personality shines through. She's quite special.

Story Time

When i first started out in this punting scene I had a couple WL give me numbers so we could meet up outside for meals etc. coming from the pick up scene (aka broke ass students trying to get lots of sex) to the punt because... pretty much just getting lazy and earning more money. so paying skipping to the end treat just seem more logical.

So getting numbers and meeting privately I thought (not knowing any better and not having read this website much) why the fuck not. It's a hired gun special anyway. Also landing numbers are dates were just a force of habit.

I quickly found out WL are always working some angle. These WL are different breed. They use and abuse you. They are only with you when they have something to gain.
Even little shit like, never bother to reach for the bill when you eat together, no matter how many times you go out. Asking for favours, help them with issues and take them places.
They always seem to want something from you. Sure they'll fuck you or even offer to BBFS you in private (never accepted). Pretty quickly the feeling of being fucking used started to sink in. Once it did, I ghosted them and got out as quick as a cat in the rain. It's cheaper to just see them at the shops honestly.
(side note: not referring to xmas, This was before xmas. Jerry is a good girl and don't work no angels.)

Lessons learned early on....

The worst experience was this one WL. I recommended her some hygiene products. She asked me to show her, so being nice we went to the shops together and I picked them out.
When we got to the self check out. She literally stood there and fully expected me to pay. WTF.??? Being shell shocked i just automatically paid, but fuck! Felt like a fucking douche. So i then went to her place, fucked her and never saw her again.

Been fine for this whole time. No issues with WL. Never once developed anything close to feelings seeing WL.
Read reviews. She sounds interested, Go for a ride. Yup .. cool... move on.


This feelings shit, only read about them here. Never once even came close.

This WL.......................
STF's ... Fuck enough and bound to catch the F's .. trying to cure it.... Some of ya'll are immune to it. Some are more susceptible.

I ain't perusing it. But meeting that someone special. Even if it goes nowhere, The time together at the shop is still in a way nice. Can't buy that kind of connection to another person. Shit. Can't even find it most of the time if you tried.

[Effindahead]

Tell u what..when u after a girl, don't expect much in the beginning. We've barely known each other for long. We meet in an indecent place. Just because she is a WL, doesnt mean she is easy to get. Rejection after rejection she would finally agree for a date but i don't want to force it. What i simply know for sure, we like each other. From the cold begginning when texting till we do it like a couple it took time. If you expereinced enough u can tell if someone likes u or not. People can pretend but feelings cannot lie. I did say to her i have doubts and she did say shes scared. But its all normal. And fyi, shes quite honest. How do i know cos i test her.
I might be wrong but for me if u want to find love you have to be ready to get hurt. But after all it is worthed. Dyou know what i mean?
Ive seen quite lots of WL and not all of them would give her personal number easily. I went on a date before with different WL about 2 years ago, end up in a hotel couple of times, had freebie but she has bipolar and i couldnt stand it. It was quite easy to ask her out, i asked for the first time and she agreed. 2nd or 3rd time she refused. But we went on for another date after that. So just because the girl doesnt wanna go on a date after u asked so many times doesnt mean that she doesnt like u. Especially Asian. Anyway, shes not as honest as this girl but it is good experience though
And lastly, i am the buyer cos i choose what i buy. No offense though.

[doctorspock]

There is no free meal in this world! Have fun but expect to pay. If you are a plumber do you do it for free?

[Effindahead]

Mate, i know that feeling, that happened to me with the WL i went out with 2 years ago. I paid for her fucking groceries!!! But i was desperado and lonely at that time.
But this girl i am seeing is not like that, i once booked her for 2 hours and brought her a dinner cos i was hungry too. Next booking for another 2 hrs, the boss told me she went out to buy me drink. I was surprised. So then text her not to buy anything but she did. And theres another occassion where i told her i want to drink before the session, she responded by buying 4 cans with some snacks for us.
I don't see WL and look down on them. I see them as i see myself who is not perfect. So i always treat them in a good manner though ive met some ungrateful ones. In return, most of the time i get treated well.

[Effindahead]

This doesn’t sound good . Too many excuses . Are you sure she’s interest in you . If she really want to hang out with you she’ll just come out with you even if she’s very busy . If I were you doing stop asking her to come out anymore. Wait till she ask you . If she doesn’t ask you then fuck it move on .
Lol man trust me i am not a newbie to this. Just a bit weak when it comes to relationship. I do have doubts but i understand the situation. Say that she lied, she wouldnt respond most of my texts, she wouldnt call me tonight when i was sleeping.
It takes time but trust me we will.

[Effindahead]

No JOY hey? Update us.
Somehow I have a feeling you start to develop feelings with a WL lol and same to those who asked if its Milan.
I cant disclose the name for her sake.
Some said it is Milan or Joy. I am actually quite curious with them. For those punters that guessed, did they tell u if they like u? Did they promise u anything? did u ask or hope that u can date them? What was your experience with them?
i promise i will narrow down who the WL is if u answer the questions.

[Weapon]

Ive only seen one of the ladies you refer to. She went above what was expected of her in the session to the point i never returned. She was full on, fun, bordering crazy and dangerous. She danced for me and took out her phone to show me things. I did not put my number in or ask for hers cos i thought she was just too needy and full on. No promises made so no promises(or doms) broken.

If you are walking in my footsteps you will see in the trail that the footsteps get deeper and further apart after a sharp right. If you miss the sharp right i believe you soon get to the edge of a cliff where the view is pretty, some guys want to see heaven. Hopefully you are on another track because I'm certain you've missed the turn.

[pyrmont_dude]

A lot of WL are genuinely damaged goods.. once feelings are involved you'll need to prepared to get hurt. I've seen a few girls and I think at the start it begins as genuine feelings and friendship but after a while they'll start working their angle as they always do. Lesson is to separate love and sex. See wl for the sex and if you need love go get a dog or gf

[Effindahead]

Look like she has KPS then. i know nothing about the korean girls . But girls will response to you if they consider you as a friend or want to keep you as a client. If they like you they'll do what ever to see you no matter what .If they can't they set up another time . If they just making excuses without an alternative time to see mean you're not her priority right now . This my experience anyway
Idk what KPS is but she doesnt have princess attitude. I went to she her again. I told her i want to drink, she bought some beers and snacks. At first i thought the same that she may want to keep me as a client. But no, she told me not to come and asked me to save the money. But i insist and end up to she her again.

[Marc70]

A lot of WL are genuinely damaged goods.. once feelings are involved you'll need to prepared to get hurt. I've seen a few girls and I think at the start it begins as genuine feelings and friendship but after a while they'll start working their angle as they always do. Lesson is to separate love and sex. See wl for the sex and if you need love go get a dog or gf

Well said..enjoy leave...only there for the money...

[Effindahead]

And after the session, she didn't even ask me for money cos she forget. Then i took her to station, on the way there I gave the money

[Brothelcreeper]

Agree with the comments about some of them just seeing us as cash cows. One WL I was dating last year was very nice to me and would see me in hotels for freebies etc but she never offered to pay for anything, never bought me a meal, never put her hand in her pocket. I remember once I took her out for a day out. Spent $300 on her for some nice clothes and sneakers, bought her lunch, took her to a hotel in the afternoon and had a free fuck but she told me I was stingy and did not spend enough money on her.

She was earning about $2,500 a week cash in hand and so I also think they see money as easy to get compared with people in normal jobs as they can often earn $1,000 a day just for a few fucks.

Last week a girl I met in a shop asked me if I wanted to see her in a hotel. I said yes but she wanted it to be $300 hotel in Circular Quay and minimum 3 hours at $200 hr when she works in a $150 hr shop. Fuck that. When I saw her in the shop she only gave me cbj and no DATY so I am not going to drop $900 on her in a hotel.

I told her she was overpriced and she deleted me on wechat....LOL.

They are not all like that though. I met a Korean WL about 4 weeks ago in a shop. We have become good friends and in the last week we have had three 4 hour sessions in hotels fucking like rabbits and I have only had to pay about $100 each time for the room. Today she took me for a Korean BBQ lunch before the hotel and paid for it herself at $125. Great woman and a fantastic fuck. My balls ache big time each time I see her as she fucks me to death like no other girl I have ever met.

[juknov]

I like brothelcreeper enjoys a fuck for a fucks sake. Nice to be fucked to an inch of your life.
More WL need to know how to do it

[BigDipper]

I already know what i have to do
I didn't mean for the post to become so personal, and about me.

I was simply asking what you guys did when you start to get feelings.

I actually empathise with where your at mate.

Had similar feelings before and just ended up using the Punting world as my patch. Everytime I thought about her I would head out and pound at a different WL, some looked like her some didn’t.

Buried the emotions under pussy pounding and lust till I couldn’t even picture her face behind all the gorgeous WLs I saw.

Give it a try and dun forget to put some ARs up on your Punting expedition.

[vitamin]

They are not all like that though. I met a Korean WL about 4 weeks ago in a shop. We have become good friends and in the last week we have had three 4 hour sessions in hotels fucking like rabbits and I have only had to pay about $100 each time for the room. Today she took me for a Korean BBQ lunch before the hotel and paid for it herself at $125. Great woman and a fantastic fuck. My balls ache big time each time I see her as she fucks me to death like no other girl I have ever met.

What hotel is it that was $100 bucks??

Now how do you manage visiting shops every day plus hotels for 4 hours.

and shopping....


I actually empathise with where your at mate.

Had similar feelings before and just ended up using the Punting world as my patch. Everytime I thought about her I would head out and pound at a different WL, some looked like her some didn’t.

Buried the emotions under pussy pounding and lust till I couldn’t even picture her face behind all the gorgeous WLs I saw.

Give it a try and dun forget to put some ARs up on your Punting expedition.


Maybe cuz i'm not in my rabbit fucking years (punterman excluded) and now i'm a bit more matured

Fucking out of sheer hornyness doesn't seem to do it the same as fucking someone you connect with..
even though punting is purely physical. Zero feels should be involved.

[beta101]

Somehow I have a feeling you start to develop feelings with a WL lol and same to those who asked if its Milan.
I cant disclose the name for her sake.
Some said it is Milan or Joy. I am actually quite curious with them. For those punters that guessed, did they tell u if they like u? Did they promise u anything? did u ask or hope that u can date them? What was your experience with them?
i promise i will narrow narrow down who the WL is if u answer the questions.

For those punters that guessed, did they tell u if they like u?
Nope we both tried to avoid it. It's only when she left the country I realised she also really liked me. It's all the little things.

Did they promise u anything?
Nope. May be only one. She said if I visited her, she will be my tour guide, take days off work n she will pay everything. I'm like wtf. I can pay for everything. what a strange thing for an asian wl to say.

did u ask or hope that u can date them?
Just asked her to be gf. Kinda skipped the date thing since we fucked already :/

What was your experience with them?
Really liked her. Started seeing her in private. We both got jealous alot. In the last few weeks before she left she started to develop deep feelings. Before she brought her one way ticket. she asked many times to have dinner with her friend aka the old n super experienced wl friend to vet me. Didn't go for reasons.

Narrow down now :p or pm lol

[Yg8]

Korean chick her name wasn't happen to be yeri?


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[Effindahead]

For those punters that guessed, did they tell u if they like u?
Nope we both tried to avoid it. It's only when she left the country I realised she also really liked me. It's all the little things.

Did they promise u anything?
Nope. May be only one. She said if I visited her, she will be my tour guide, take days off work n she will pay everything. I'm like wtf. I can pay for everything. what a strange thing for an asian wl to say.

did u ask or hope that u can date them?
Just asked her to be gf. Kinda skipped the date thing since we fucked already :/

What was your experience with them?
Really liked her. Started seeing her in private. We both got jealous alot. In the last few weeks before she left she started to develop deep feelings. Before she brought her one way ticket. she asked many times to have dinner with her friend aka the old n super experienced wl friend to vet me. Didn't go for reasons.

Narrow down now :p or pm lol
Done on your inbox

[wallyworld]

Am in sort of relationship with a private WL now, have been for 12 months, she is such good natured soul ... of course she still works, of course I still punt elsewhere she knows, with both know the situation occasionally we talk, discuss events.

Sex is great, but we don't always have sex when she stays over ... I so respect her, life, conversation so pragmatic.

I'm not talking marriage ... hey am 52 with 3 kids from 2 marriages. She s not looking for marriage or commitment ... my commitment to her is "shit goes down" I am there to back her up.

Life takes us down all sorts of paths I didn't plan for it ... while sex is important, push past it and sometimes a real, awesome soul is inside.

The best ... when we are out, seeing all these guys trying the best to hit on her, shaking there heads at this old man by her side ....

WARNING - not all WL are the same, likes this !

[Azninvasion85]

What I want to know is has fucked her raw a couple of times...share who she is so we can avoid

[beta101]

Done on your inbox

Hey man thanks for sharing. I can't seem to send pm anymore. Anyway the good news is she is not famous at all. First time I heard her name. I hope it works out.

If i was u n I really really really like this wl i would just got for it. Buy a diamond ring n ask for marriage.

[marmont]

Thanks for all the stories. Just asking, are there no single ladies around after a certain age?
So many strings attached to being with a WL or ML not to mention your partner is having sexual relations every week with other men because thats her job
Where are all the ladies in Sydney also wanting a companion?

[Momoe]

Thanks for all the stories. Just asking, are there no single ladies around after a certain age?
So many strings attached to being with a WL or ML not to mention your partner is having sexual relations every week with other men because thats her job
Where are all the ladies in Sydney also wanting a companion?
Girls are aplenty in Sydney. You just need to know where to find them or who to get to know to have connections. Obviously for some its easier to just meetup with WLs/MLs if its right for both sides

Nonetheless having relationship with current WL/ML always carries a luggage. She may have true feelings for you, but are you the only one? I have been with some that does what a genuine gf would do, but would still go out or have private sessions with other men. I have been with WLs that stopped working, but still continue in contact with other previous customers. For me, its better to have sort of companion relationship instead of something too serious instead

[Effindahead]

It is what we choose, everything we choose has consequences. If you choose to be with a WL you have to be ready thinking what they think. Don't be selfish.
They will think that you see other WLs before. You fucked or will fuck other girls. It is the same when you think that she went out or will go out with other guys.
Put your persepective from their point of view and teach or show them too. You will understand more each other and trust will grow on its own. You should never let the sun set on tomorrow before the sun rises on today.
You cannot tell the night by the day, you will see when time reveals. Risk is always there, what you take may bring u down. For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap - Bible quote lol.
What for u is what u do believe in and what for they, they will speak for no one. Have faith in yourself cos it will carry u all. Cos chicken in the corn and the corn wont grow, mama. But all you need is one beer, one scotch and one bourbon, man!

[vitamin]

Thanks for all the stories. Just asking, are there no single ladies around after a certain age?
So many strings attached to being with a WL or ML not to mention your partner is having sexual relations every week with other men because thats her job
Where are all the ladies in Sydney also wanting a companion?

I know a lot of quality good looking single girls who are professional jobs.

They are asking the same question. The issues with them is that they are not willing to put themselves out there.
They use tinder maybe once or twice, few duds and give up on internet dating all together

try to get set up to no avail. and simply start to give up or settle for the next guy they meet.

Girls these days are putting marriage off later and later so there is less and less urgency to find someone. Hence less effort going out actively meeting people.


Once you're past a certain age. Bars and clubs are a waste of time really. You just stick out like a sore thumb
Pubs and bars are social groups. Pretty much have to become a pickup artist and that is a whole new set of skill sets noone past the age of early 20's have the time to really learn.

[marmont]

I have a few older female colleaugues at work, who meet lots of guys but are picky
Their wishlist included tall, good body, funny, great job, no bad habits.
One lady I know friendzoned a tall barrister with all these attributes because 'he doesnt have enough spark when we are together'

[Targayayuka]

Catch the feelings bro, fuck it. It's hard reconciling all the dick they take, but at the end of the day she's just after what everyone else is: someone who isn't a total cunt to spend her time with.

Nup, not going there again**.

I'm all for hanging out but almost all WLs are only here temporarily and I don't venture down that path with the girls I date. Also, my idea of a relationship is it being just you and her, no one else - I have never understood how punters are willing to be in a real relationship with a WL/ML. Even if you're allowed to punt when she is still working - that shit cannot be healthy, brings up a whole lot of trust issues, and almost invariably leads to a toxic relationship.



**TL: DR version - I was in a relationship with someone in the industry which I probably shouldn't have allowed myself to get into. It knocked me around for a while after when it ended to point where I was acting a bit irrational.


Holywalloftext, Batman:-
She initiated everything - meeting up, hanging out, going 'official'. I went along with it because she had type of personality that I like in girls outside of punting and she was fun to be around with. Up until when we went 'official', I had been holding myself back because I was sceptical about her - are we going to have to make up a backstory for my friends and family? what is she going to do after leaving the industry? is she working an angle? We had been talking about meeting my friends and family, and we had come up with a backstory of how we met, what she does etc. My b'day was around the time we were dating and she went out of her way to arrange a little celebration for us two (I had to pay for dinner, which was a little bit weird, but I didn't mind because she dropped $500 on a pair of shoes when I wasn't expecting anything) - she was so sweet, and so I thought:- wow....this chick really digs me. Even my friends were saying the same thing when I bragged about the shoes.

At the time I thought she had PR and was going to be around permanently, and so that plus the fact that she was apparently into me I decided to let myself go and catch the feelings.

Things went south not long after that. In hindsight, it was partly my own doing because I did not properly express my expectations and boundaries like you normally would when you have 'the talk' with the girl. It may had also been because she thought was ready to be in another relationship when she really wasn't or that she had 'fish love'.

I found out that she in fact did not have PR - this was my bad, I misheard her when she said it when we met. She was planning to leave in about 9 months and so there I was, after finally opening myself thinking that this is going to last for a while, she is leaving for good. So that got into my head and festered.

She also starting acting a bit odd - kinda like a switch had been flipped right after when I said 'yeah, ok lets do this.' For some reason she didn't want anyone else to know about me, expect maybe a few of her friends. When I mentioned it in passing, she said that she wanted to 'protect' me. I didn't care too much about it, but this was one of the little things that added up along with some other things which did not align with my expectations and values.

She also stopped wanting to go out whenever I suggested stuff to do - she wanted to stay home or didn't want to head to the city or go to somewhere nice. Completely opposite to what she was like before. (When we broke up she said my 'dating style was wrong' - dafuq?, and now she's being doing the exact same things I had suggested.....lol) Maybe because it was that 'fish love' thing again.

The other little thing is 'the guy she told me to not worry about'. (I think we all know that whenever we hear that from a girl, it means we definitely should be worrying about that guy or at least be cautious, especially when we never prompted that out of them or even thought anything about the guy in question. I have been at the end of this a couple of times and so I have an idea of the real meaning of it.) They would be messaging each other frequently which, again, I didn't care - she was free to talk whoever she wants, like I was free to talk to anyone else. She seemed pretty secretive or vague about what that they talked about, and it seemed like banter borderlining on flirting. I knew that he was a punter and forum member, and so I figured it was one of those privacy/confidentiality things. I made a cheeky, harmless, comment about that guy and she had a pretty odd reaction to it. A little while later, I was being silly and made a playful comment about her messaging that guy a lot, and she got pretty defensive about it saying that her friend had said the same thing (or that she mentions him a lot).

From the beginning, I knew I had to deal with guys throwing their dicks in her face (literally and figuratively), asking her out (she showed me a couple of messages from punters) and buying her things like any enamoured punters would.

She had previously been in relationships with punters, and therefore her expectations on me may had been different to the norm - she may had been expecting a bit more 'rope' from me which I wasn't used to having to give.

I was secure enough, but may be only enough for exclusive relationships where the girl does not have guys actively trying to bone her whilst she is being secretive about it and with the expectation of you being faithful.

Being a relationship with someone from the industry would more than likely be difficult to maintain in the long run. Relationships can be difficult, but it shouldn't be that hard.

And that kids, is how I met your mo-.....why I won't go there again.

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[bbongobboy]

Hello Chaps!

It's possible for a WL to fall for you and for you to fall for the WL.

Just remember that the atmosphere in a shop is fantasy for both the WL and the punter. The mind plays tricks (on both of you) at times.

For every punter that lives with the torture of knowing the girl of his dreams is swallowing the cum of otherwise respectable fellow punters, there's a WL who lives with the torture of suspecting her new found beau is doing a girl prettier/younger/dirtier/hotter than her as she pretends to enjoy swallowing her third load of the morning.

Be advised: WLs are indifferent to most of their punters. It's money. They might flirt with a punter, they might turn on the charm, they might even cum hard with his cock which inevitably will be bigger than yours. But she has no emotional connection and thinks his aftershave smells like cat piss. Or her Father's underarm deodorant.

It's a tough gig working. I wouldn't want to do it. Ah, but the money...

It's also a tough gig punting. I do it. I know. Ah, but the money...

Why do we do it? It's human nature. Most of us bravely admit that we're only there for the sex. Sometimes. Maybe. If it were only that simple...

If you fall for someone, be honest. Put it out there. Unless you're a teenager or a dunderhead that's never loved a woman (advice: loving a woman, any woman, is always complicated). You risk embarrassment by being honest, or risk being taken advantage of, but make it clear, unambiguous: you want to get with her and you're wondering if she wants to get with you. You know, without paying. You'll know where you stand. Money is big hurdle. If it's not an LV handbag it'll be a leased Lexus. Or something. She'll think money grows on trees. She'll have outlearned you 10:1. Yes, sex work pays well. It's sort of how they get girls to put themselves out for all and sundry. If she doesn't want payment you know she's your soulmate, this week anyway. You'll still get hurt (love's like that) but its worth it, if only for a chance to reconnect to that sad friend, you used to think was funny, that everyone avoids since his divorce...

If she's interested, you can start dating. Don't see her anymore in the shop. Don't follow her last punter outside to see what car he drives. Don't call the shop to see if she's been busy all day (she has, I assure you, and often enjoys herself despite the creepy guy who keeps asking her for greek, which she only did once to shut him up even though she doesn't do greek).

If she laughs in your face when you ask if she feels the same way about you as you do about her (if only people were honest) then plan to never see her again. But if you need to go to the same shop always go on days when she's working. Finding a new WL to pursue in the same shop in full sight of your past regular is an easy way to get over your infatuation. Even if you secretly think your new WL regular smells funny because she doesn't gargle thoroughly in between each load of... you get the idea.

Remember: the only person who could hope to embarrass themselves more than a spurned WL is a love sick punter. Clear the air. Early. Don't sulk, or stalk. Stalking ain't cool and is frowned upon more than the supply if illicit substances, women being equal but fragile and protected and all that...

Disclaimer: I'm using humour as a device to illustrate the absurdity of love, life and the pursuit of happiness. Just try not to make a fool of yourself, eh?

BB

[bbongobboy]

Some WL actually enjoy fucking many guys and getting paid for it, similar to us punters fucking different girls. I personally wouldn't date a WL or ever fall for one. Probably only thing i would do is go for coffee and ask for a fuck afterwards but that's about it. Most of them have an agenda (PR, House/lifestyle etc) and I suppose the asian WL i fuck their broken English would turn me right off.

I have no words. No words. Is it 2018 or 1818?

[bbongobboy]

It's quite common, and hard for Immigration prove with the right forethought by the citizen and the foreigner.

I would never sell my country's citizenship. I'm a dually too. Apart from anything else, it'll land you in jail and the girl will be deported if it ever comes to light. And secrets are very hard to keep forever.

I knew personally one WL who stayed with me for a few months (Chinese) who's Chinese beau ended up in jail for trafficking (Ice of all things, go figure). She'd had a rough time in Australia and ended up working beneath sheets. Plenty of money but a soulless existence. She was very unhappy. Desperate to gain PR to stay in Australia. She managed to buy PR from another Chinese guy who's mother had married locally and was introduced to my WL friend by a Sydney based immigration agent (who herself deserves to be in jail). Do dodgy things and you have to deal with dodgy people. She was surprised he failed to complete and bank the final $40k. I explained that he'd had $80k for a few forms and nothing more. She couldn't speak for a while after that... went to work in Blacktown 24/7 then went back home. Hearsay, I know, but I was told by first hand by the WL, sobbing, explaining why she she was overstaying her visa and was as paranoid as all hell...



A Chinese girl asked me if I’d marry her friend for $150,000 a couple of years ago.
Was enough to think about it for a minute.

[vitamin]

Things went south not long after that. In hindsight, it was partly my own doing because I did not properly express my expectations and boundaries like you normally would when you have 'the talk' with the girl. It may had also been because she thought was ready to be in another relationship when she really wasn't or that she had 'fish love'.



' - dafuq?, and now she's being doing the exact same things I had suggested.....lol) Maybe because it was that 'fish love' thing again.





Arhhh.. The mentioning of fish love..
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/506/manofculture.JPG

[marmont]

Just read between the lines when you meet a woman. If she is a WL, you never expect exclusivity
Save that expectation for a nonworking lady
Its like asking a cat to stay in its own backyard all night. If you know cats, you know that cats wont do something just because you ask nicely.

[Marc70]

Just read between the lines when you meet a woman. If she is a WL, you never expect exclusivity
Save that expectation for a nonworking lady
Its like asking a cat to stay in its own backyard all night. If you know cats, you know that cats wont do something just because you ask nicely.

Old saying..punt....enjoy..leave....,,

[Targayayuka]

Arhhh.. The mentioning of fish love..
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/506/manofculture.JPG

L'chaim. Oy vey.

[bbongobboy]

You know, WLs are some of the most jealous people I've ever, er, dated. Many expect exclusivity. But it's only work darling they say. Yes. Only work. They say it's only work as they message regulars on WeChat at home on a Sunday lining up bookings on Monday after they've said no to sex because they're too tired. I'd never, er, date one again. They are some screwed up people emotionally are WLs. Come to think of it, many punters are screwed up emotionally, too.

Please, don't mention the war.

Bless.


Just read between the lines when you meet a woman. If she is a WL, you never expect exclusivity
Save that expectation for a nonworking lady
Its like asking a cat to stay in its own backyard all night. If you know cats, you know that cats wont do something just because you ask nicely.

[bbongobboy]

Yes. If you're there for anything but the sex and eye candy, then you've no business buying sex in the first place. Like casinos profit off compulsive gambling addicts, so to shops profit off punters who have a thing for one particular girl.


Old saying..punt....enjoy..leave....,,

[encoule]

get in get out ... no fuss no strings . think of it as any other paid service ... like plumbing!

[vitamin]

get in get out ... no fuss no strings . think of it as any other paid service ... like plumbing!

what if you fall in love with a plumber when they come and fix your pipes? No rules saying you can't hit on them

[Effindahead]

So after a while, here it goes..
The WL that I am seeing told me that I only want to see her because of sex. Of course, I disagree and told her that I wont be coming to see her again when she works. We then set up a date which was today.
I took her to a lunch then off to Manly today - stupid me!!! It was windy and cold. But she didnt mind. We spent the day like a proper couple on a date. It was not a good date at the beginning but i ended the day with something special which surprise her and clearly made her day...to be continued...

[vitamin]

So after a while, here it goes..
The WL that I am seeing told me that I only want to see her because of sex. Of course, I disagree and told her that I wont be coming to see her again when she works. We then set up a date which was today.
I took her to a lunch then off to Manly today - stupid me!!! It was windy and cold. But she didnt mind. We spent the day like a proper couple on a date. It was not a good date at the beginning but i ended the day with something special which surprise her and clearly made her day...to be continued...

Define "Special"

so the WL initiated it? and you felt cornered into a date? or you actually wanted to go on a date with her?

[liminal]

Don’t mistake my comments as I’m in similar spaces now or before

Are you also stopping side punts now that you’ve had your first ‘date’?


If you’re serious wouldn’t taking the story off line perhaps to only come back in a month or 12 with an update and so all and sundry can congratulate you on your wedding plans or commiserate further in your anguish and or tut tut and say told yah so bro .. etc?

Or is it a spectator sport

[Effindahead]

Id say both part. As previously mentioned, we have been planning for the past month and she told me those excuses till it was last Monday she told me she will have a day off on Thursday so did i took the day off yesterday. Apart from things happened, we will go for another date in a month or two. So within that time frame, if there is any other excuses. Id just stoples and what most u thought is correct that shes not just into me or relationship

[Effindahead]

I have thoughts now and then to see other WLs but somehow it still has not come to realisation yet. But i will try to keep one girl at one time till everything gone south - only if it happens.
And no, not going to announce because everything is still definitely maybe..again you cant tell the night from the day till u actually there

[Riff888]

I personally love dating WLs, have been since 2014.

I find them fun, smart and somewhat honest after awhile.

I've had regular relationships in-between but found them too boring and I felt caged in.

And it's true, having a GF and wife is much more expensive than WLs, I lost a house to my ex wife.

I'm over responsibility, compromise and sharing my whole life with someone.

A few hours a day a few times a week suits me fine plus I love sleeping alone.

Some relationships with WLs were more serious. Like the ones who decide to stop.

So this Japanese girl who just flew back to Japan on Tuesday, just in time for the typhoon and earthquake poor thing. I'll name her, Hinako from a popular shop. It's a lasting relationship since 2016 and I'm even going to stay with her family when I go to Hokkaido in December.

Plus there's this girl from Szechuan I've been seeing for the last 2 years, been doing bare back for a over a year and cummin inside for a few months. I haven't done that since my ex wife. Even when I had a serious relationship for over a year after my divorce.

Each to there own I say, as long as your having fun.

Life is too short.

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[bbongobboy]

Ouch! I've dated two WLs. Three long term non WLs. I'm generalising of course when I talk about these things. Are you doubting my, er, experience sunshine?

I will say one thing triggered by someone else's posts on this thread: in once case the WL initiated the relationship where she became a crazed jealous stalker and in another I initiated the relationship and she was open to an open relationship (I don't do open relationships oddly).

Opinions are based on my personal experiences. Yours may vary. Good luck to you.


Tells us some of your happy success dating stories with A NON WL . If you have any that is

[bbongobboy]

There are jail terms for some elements of visa fraud, which is catch all term for many breaches of Federal immigration law, rules and regulations, statutory declarations and the like. Some of these offences if found guilty can carry jail terms. You'd be surprised how many offences carry jail terms. If you dodgy up a relationship to get someone a visa and you get paid for it then you stand the risk of going to jail for multiple offences if found guilty.

Hell, some people have gone to jail for signing a false speed camera declaration.


You wont go jail for a fake marriage . You only get your spouse visa rejected that's all . You only go to jail for Criminal activies like doing Drugs . yes there are dodgy people everywhere not just in the Brothel area . The Southern Asian are the master of scams if you want to know .

[trampslikeus55]

I personally love dating WLs, have been since 2014.

I find them fun, smart and somewhat honest after awhile.

I've had regular relationships in-between but found them too boring and I felt caged in.

And it's true, having a GF and wife is much more expensive than WLs, I lost a house to my ex wife.

I'm over responsibility, compromise and sharing my whole life with someone.

A few hours a day a few times a week suits me fine plus I love sleeping alone.

Some relationships with WLs were more serious. Like the ones who decide to stop.

So this Japanese girl who just flew back to Japan on Tuesday, just in time for the typhoon and earthquake poor thing. I'll name her, Hinako from a popular shop. It's a lasting relationship since 2016 and I'm even going to stay with her family when I go to Hokkaido in December.

Plus there's this girl from Szechuan I've been seeing for the last 2 years, been doing bare back for a over a year and cummin inside for a few months. I haven't done that since my ex wife. Even when I had a serious relationship for over a year after my divorce.

Each to there own I say, as long as your having fun.

Life is too short.

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Hope life treats you well

[Soccerfan]

I'm not a FS guy, but I would much rather date an ML than a WL. Most ML's are stable and live a down to earth lifestyle with their job being a stepping stone to a better life.

[babycatmassage]

Just read between the lines when you meet a woman. If she is a WL, you never expect exclusivity
Save that expectation for a nonworking lady
Its like asking a cat to stay in its own backyard all night. If you know cats, you know that cats wont do something just because you ask nicely.
Yeah, they’re different from dogs. Don’t do what they’re told.

[Hu6e]

You’re generalising all WL behave the same. . If the WL who are born here in Australia then yes they have mental issues . you should never date them . There are alot of WL who are from oversea and are from very a poor families background. They got their own reason of doing it like to support their families back home or has a very reason . But they don’t want to be a WL for the long term . Only make enough and leave . Australia is an easy country to survive . There are absolutely no reason to be a WL if you are an Australian citizen unless you really want to be one , either you’re doing drugs or just too lazy to get a job . Our Centrelink system are the state of the art .Not all non WL are an saints some of them are just bad or worst . Married you for the money or just use you . I’m sure you have heard bad stories about them as well .

Lol, starts off by saying "You’re generalising all WL behave the same. "
And then literally the next sentence is a generalization on all Australian born WLs, saying they have mental issues and you should never date them.

Jeez bro, discriminate much?

https://www.facebook.com/VICEAustralia/videos/474361813065899/

Does she look like she has mental issues? No, no she doesn't. I understand it is in America, but it might just change your perception on WLs.

[Riff888]

I'm met some beautiful and intelligent Aussie WLs who were shrewd business women. Met this gorgeous girl called Victoria who flew in from Melbourne for private jobs, oh how I miss Cracker/Backpage.

This girl in Sydney was living in a huge apartment in Quay West with a few other apartments in the same building she was renting out. She had a web guy and an American girl who was her PA.

I mean these girls would make more than $400k a year.

I mean if I could I would probably do it too.

Maybe we should all move to Japan. Most of us would be a good size over there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/e6cb66bbe34115a48bdeee819f0f5595.jpg

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[Hu6e]

Sorry mate, but I pretty much disagree with everything you said.
I dont think that being a WL should be seen as a shameful profession. They provide us the punters with a service, and we should respect them for that.

Just because you get a uni degree, it doesn't automatically mean you are guaranteed a cashed up job.

It shouldn't be up to anyone to judge a WL for her decision to become a sex worker. I personally dont care. That's her business, not mine

Furthermore , I dont at all think it makes them bad people. Far from it. I believe they are worthy of love and affection just as much as anyone else. For me, if I met a WL, we had a connection, and she had a plan to leave the industry, there would be no problem seeing each other.

Just my opinion.

[bronte]

Sorry mate, but I pretty much disagree with everything you said.
I dont think that being a WL should be seen as a shameful profession. They provide us the punters with a service, and we should respect them for that.

Just because you get a uni degree, it doesn't automatically mean you are guaranteed a cashed up job.

It shouldn't be up to anyone to judge a WL for her decision to become a sex worker. I personally dont care. That's her business, not mine

Furthermore , I dont at all think it makes them bad people. Far from it. I believe they are worthy of love and affection just as much as anyone else. For me, if I met a WL, we had a connection, and she had a plan to leave the industry, there would be no problem seeing each other.

Just my opinion.
What if your daughter one day tells you she is a WL ?

[Hu6e]

What if your daughter one day tells you she is a WL ?

If you want an honest answer, and you dont troll my ass.... here it is.

I would want her to know and understand the risks first. I would want her to have safe sex. I would even pay for her to take Pre-exposure prophylaxis, PrEP.
I would want her to have decent security, and not work alone.
I would show her understanding, love and compassion, instead of shunning her.
I would ensure that she was happy doing what she wanted. If she isn't happy, then talk about what would make her happy.

But that is just me.

What would you do??

[Apha1401]

Remind yourself you have a loving wife, 2 kids and a naughty habit.

[Hu6e]

Maybe we should all move to Japan. Most of us would be a good size over there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/e6cb66bbe34115a48bdeee819f0f5595.jpg

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Lol, I would have to grow my pubes back. And cut my dick in half

[Marc70]

[QUOTE=Hu6e;1515762]Lol, I would have to grow my pubes back.

Enrolled for Japanese classes ...bags are packed...

[Clozapine]

There is a unwritten policy against romantic or any
other fraternization between us and them and you.
But human beings just insist on being social creatures ,
and no matter how much you indoctrinate or denigrate them
they remain as much.
But for most the unwritten rule has remained, pretending
disinterest ,allegiance to policy , frequent visit to different
establishments to reduce familiarity and above all a belief
in status quo.
Floating the idea of that less than is not to be tolerated.

[LookingForTheOne]

Damn, I wish I studied Japanese

[bbongobboy]

I must agree with this! WLs are generally leading emotionally if not physically stressful lives. It does become obvious in some bizarre ways at times.


I'm not a FS guy, but I would much rather date an ML than a WL. Most ML's are stable and live a down to earth lifestyle with their job being a stepping stone to a better life.

[bbongobboy]

Ha!

Mental health is a big reason why some people become homeless. And if you're behind the eight ball, can't afford t buy your own home, have trouble at work, get some fines, can't pay, turn to drink or drugs, get locked out of the rental market (real estate agents are some of the dumbest people with the biggest effect on daily lives that I've ever encountered).

There are estimates floating around that 50% of homeless people have serious long term psychiatric illness (I'm talking about ones needing lifelong medication, not your run of the mill 'I'm feeling poorly' so the GP prescribes Prozac), and around 30% of the prison population have some form of mental illness or substance abuse vaulting them into crime and the criminal justice system).

I would not wish poor mental health or homelessness on anyone, and if you end up with the wrong partner or born into the wrong family you're largely on your own in the neo-liberal utopia that is modern Australia.

Judging people who suffer poor mental health or economic misfortune, no matter how they've personally contributed to their situation, is callous.

I've spent a lot of time helping people with serious mental illness or substance abuse. Empathy is in short supply at the best of times. The legal system and the way it works makes life nigh on impossible for those who are vulnerable and need help.

Government support is not as easy as people may think in this country and the neoliberal view of user pays and people helping themselves doesn't really work if you're born into poverty or suffer a health crisis without the support of friends or family. And it's getting worse I assure. you.


Sorry I have irrelevant question: what’s the reason for homeless Aussie? They use all the money for drugs? Or what? Government can’t help them? I truly don’t know.

[vitamin]

I'm not a FS guy, but I would much rather date an ML than a WL. Most ML's are stable and live a down to earth lifestyle with their job being a stepping stone to a better life.

are you saying that WL's job can't be a stepping stone to a better life?



Lol, I would have to grow my pubes back. And cut my dick in half

growing pubs back isn't that hard huge.. What's stopping you?

[Niceguy11]

I personally love dating WLs, have been since 2014.

I find them fun, smart and somewhat honest after awhile.

I've had regular relationships in-between but found them too boring and I felt caged in.

And it's true, having a GF and wife is much more expensive than WLs, I lost a house to my ex wife.

I'm over responsibility, compromise and sharing my whole life with someone.

A few hours a day a few times a week suits me fine plus I love sleeping alone.

Some relationships with WLs were more serious. Like the ones who decide to stop.

So this Japanese girl who just flew back to Japan on Tuesday, just in time for the typhoon and earthquake poor thing. I'll name her, Hinako from a popular shop. It's a lasting relationship since 2016 and I'm even going to stay with her family when I go to Hokkaido in December.

Plus there's this girl from Szechuan I've been seeing for the last 2 years, been doing bare back for a over a year and cummin inside for a few months. I haven't done that since my ex wife. Even when I had a serious relationship for over a year after my divorce.

Each to there own I say, as long as your having fun.

Life is too short.

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Definitely true Riff888 about being married is more expensive. So many of my friends have lost everything (house, car, company). WL's are way more better.

[looser]

I personally love dating WLs, have been since 2014.

I find them fun, smart and somewhat honest after awhile.

I've had regular relationships in-between but found them too boring and I felt caged in.

And it's true, having a GF and wife is much more expensive than WLs, I lost a house to my ex wife.

I'm over responsibility, compromise and sharing my whole life with someone.

A few hours a day a few times a week suits me fine plus I love sleeping alone.

Some relationships with WLs were more serious. Like the ones who decide to stop.

So this Japanese girl who just flew back to Japan on Tuesday, just in time for the typhoon and earthquake poor thing. I'll name her, Hinako from a popular shop. It's a lasting relationship since 2016 and I'm even going to stay with her family when I go to Hokkaido in December.

Plus there's this girl from Szechuan I've been seeing for the last 2 years, been doing bare back for a over a year and cummin inside for a few months. I haven't done that since my ex wife. Even when I had a serious relationship for over a year after my divorce.

Each to there own I say, as long as your having fun.

Life is too short.

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Yes, life is too short. Your comments resonate with me and I am going thru a similar experience with divorce and losing all that I worked hard for over many years. In the end, life is short, and if one can find happiness (even if it is just a few hours each week), then that is good

[AHLUNGOR]

Well, I suppose if you don’t want a family, then having a wife is really just for the sex ? Then seeing a WL or ML would definitely be more economical especially if you are planning to play and move on for no more than a short period at a time.

Each to his own , as long as you are happy mates !


Ps. Same would apply to those more matured guys who already have children from previously failed marriage or is now divorced, the world is your pussy man !!

[Clozapine]

Ha!

Mental health is a big reason why some people become homeless. And if you're behind the eight ball, can't afford t buy your own home, have trouble at work, get some fines, can't pay, turn to drink or drugs, get locked out of the rental market (real estate agents are some of the dumbest people with the biggest effect on daily lives that I've ever encountered).

There are estimates floating around that 50% of homeless people have serious long term psychiatric illness (I'm talking about ones needing lifelong medication, not your run of the mill 'I'm feeling poorly' so the GP prescribes Prozac), and around 30% of the prison population have some form of mental illness or substance abuse vaulting them into crime and the criminal justice system).

I would not wish poor mental health or homelessness on anyone, and if you end up with the wrong partner or born into the wrong family you're largely on your own in the neo-liberal utopia that is modern Australia.

Judging people who suffer poor mental health or economic misfortune, no matter how they've personally contributed to their situation, is callous.

I've spent a lot of time helping people with serious mental illness or substance abuse. Empathy is in short supply at the best of times. The legal system and the way it works makes life nigh on impossible for those who are vulnerable and need help.

Government support is not as easy as people may think in this country and the neoliberal view of user pays and people helping themselves doesn't really work if you're born into poverty or suffer a health crisis without the support of friends or family. And it's getting worse I assure. you.
Well put squire there are so many people on the streets
that shouldn't be. Its not like they can have stencilled in
large letters on their forehead SMI - V which means
seriously mentally ill violent or ticking time bomb ,
when off medication run for cover.

[vitamin]

But a marriage to someone is more than just sex though.
A wife is not just a sex object. They provide other things.

Although it is sad when marriages end...

[Hu6e]

Japan, out of all countries, doesn't lack horny men for sure.

"Herbivore men or grass-eater men is a term used in Japan to describe men who have no interest in getting married or finding a girlfriend. The term herbivore men was also a term that is described as young men who had lost their "manliness".

They aren't too keen on fucking either apparently.

[Momoe]

"Herbivore men or grass-eater men is a term used in Japan to describe men who have no interest in getting married or finding a girlfriend. The term herbivore men was also a term that is described as young men who had lost their "manliness".

They aren't too keen on fucking either apparently.

Tbh, living their kind of high pressure life, both male and female pretty much have not much interest in relationships as well

But journeying to seedier/certain parts, you get tonnes of guys hitting on girls and they have no interest in settling down

[Yg8]

Ex Elin at 142? She's hilarious and a top tier hustler too ay?

Lol yeah, did a lot of natural sex shit


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[luckyluke]

Don't see her for a long time go punt with others. You will still probably compare the others to her but you have to break the bond YOU have to her. Just remember she is fucking tonnes of other dudes not just you.

[thaipussyhunter]

This topic has been overdone on the forum many times.

Let's not go there again

If you date a WL it will bring you initial pleasure, then only pain and anguish. I guarantee it.

You will sit at your desk at work wondering whose cock is currently in her mouth, who she is DFKing and orgasming with, who is currently licking her pussy, who has recently cum in her mouth, does she enjoy sex with other punters more than you, etc etc etc.

You will enjoy the short time she spends with you and those times will be short as they often work 15 hour days, 6 or 7 days a week.

But you will hate the long days and nights that she is at work fucking 10 guys a day. You will hate reading reviews on her and what others are doing to her and how she was "enjoying" being fucked by them.

Is that what you want ?

Date a non WL and use the WL's for fun and sex.

I couldn't agree more
3 years with my ex WL took its toll
All the story's about guys with 11 inch cocks or all guys who made her cum while I was busty my balls 40 degree heat

Stay as a punter...don't get trapped

[Shreddedolphin]

i reckon it would be pretty cool if you actually got together with one

[ninjapunter]

How can you have a serious relationship with WL when they are 99% fake at work with more men in 1 day than you have fucked in 1 year

Don't be a fool
Fuck them at work
Fuck many of them & get on with your life

Why wait for her when she's getting throat fucked my many man

The WL only fucks for money, not pleasure

[Yogurt]

How can you have a serious relationship with WL when they are 99% fake at work with more men in 1 day than you have fucked in 1 year

Don't be a fool
Fuck them at work
Fuck many of them & get on with your life

Why wait for her when she's getting throat fucked my many man

The WL only fucks for money, not pleasure

The best answer i ever read in this topic , whoever read wake up , there is cock in her mouth while you are sleeping or while you are doing your own things at home

[toysrus]

It seems most peoples concerns can be solved by just dating a ML instead. If the relationship is legit she should have no problem compromising and just offering HJ.

[Riff888]

The best answer i ever read in this topic , whoever read wake up , there is cock in her mouth while you are sleeping or while you are doing your own things at homeAll WLs have a life outside the industry, not all girls will be a career WL for life.

Everyone deserves to have a somewhat normal life, whatever normal is.

Guys with this narrow point of view probably haven't taken the time to get to know the girls.

WLs are human too you know and without them your life would be miserable.

Just like Rick James says, "she's alright with me".

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[Raybo]

Falling for a WL/ML as the title suggests, is a reaction to the feelings you have for them. You can't control feelings but you can manage how you deal with them.

Best to acknowledge those feelings and realise your limitations. What it means for me is that i respect their space, don't get too clingy or posessive and just enjoy and cherish the times i have together with that regular, special WL/ML.

[Riff888]

Falling for a WL/ML as the title suggests, is a reaction to the feelings you have for them. You can't control feelings but you can manage how you deal with them.

Best to acknowledge those feelings and realise your limitations. What it means for me is that i respect their space, don't get too clingy or posessive and just enjoy and cherish the times i have together with that regular, special WL/ML.This is sound advice and how I approach punting in general.

There are 3 very special girls I've taken things further with. I'm divorced now, had kids and dated the traditional way. Dating these days sucks anyway. My ex wife and ex girlfriends have been more expensive than my regulars.

I only took things further because the girls wanted too as well. There's been times I ran out of money and had to borrow money from a WL.

But yes, respecting each other's space and enjoying the moment is very important.

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[liminal]

It seems most peoples concerns can be solved by just dating a ML instead. If the relationship is legit she should have no problem compromising and just offering HJ.

Never that simple and tidy

[toysrus]

Never that simple and tidy

Because the relationship is not real, it really can be that simple. If both parties are really in love they will meet half way, and the girl will make equal amount of effort as the guy, but more often than not it's just another fake relationship with the guy doing 80% of the work. The situation I described the girl is still making money, it's a minor reduction in her income. In fact many girls will tell you they wouldn't be able to do this work at all if they had real feelings for someone.

The question has to be asked, why do so many dudes suddenly think they can have a relationship with an attractive girl that's way out of their league? You have to be realistic when evaluating your situation, is she a girl you could get outside if she had a normal career? If the answer is no then it very likely to be a fake relationship no matter how much in denial you are in.

[Climax598]

Because the relationship is not real, it really can be that simple. If both parties are really in love they will meet half way, and the girl will make equal amount of effort as the guy, but more often than not it's just another fake relationship with the guy doing 80% of the work. The situation I described the girl is still making money, it's a minor reduction in her income. In fact many girls will tell you they wouldn't be able to do this work at all if they had real feelings for someone.

The question has to be asked, why do so many dudes suddenly think they can have a relationship with an attractive girl that's way out of their league? You have to be realistic when evaluating your situation, is she a girl you could get outside if she had a normal career? If the answer is no then it very likely to be a fake relationship no matter how much in denial you are in.
All man have fantasy and dreams of having a beautiful girl and also good in bed. You have test drive her in bed so you like the way you fuck her or she fuck you. That's why is called making love/lovemaking/makelove.

[Bundyon]

Fall for her, Enjoy it, Then when it goes to shit, get over it like 99% of relationships, the 1%'rs do something irrational I guess, is this a Kindy Grade topic?

[f00b]

Isn't it ironic that one of the whole reasons we punt is to scratch an itch that isn't satisfied in our real lives, and we want a transactional means to resolve it... and then we end up catching feels for the WL/ML and then basically putting ourselves in the same bloody situation again?!

Not that say that it hasn't happened to me, but I kinda quietly laugh at myself and how I got into this whole mess.. haha

[dingoman]

If you can control; your jealousy and respect her then take it further otherwise you're just digging a hole for yourself