The Sydney Scene: What does it do right, and what can it do better?

[Eclipsefun]

What do you think makes the Sydney punter scene good or bad? What is unique and what would you like to see improved? This can be about massage or full service.

For example, in another thread talking about the Sydney massage scene I gave my opinion that there are many girls who I would consider good but few that I would consider to be Great (high quality part one, excellent body to body technique and an awesome finish). On top of this the great ones are starting to age out of the business and retire and there does not seem to be anyone from new generation stepping up to replace them. The common factor for these greats is they trained and worked overseas in men's spas and soaplands, they were true professionals.

Do you agree or differ with my assessment on this?

A thing I would like to see change in Sydney is KTV similar to how you get in parts of Asia, although I understand that this is likely much too wild for Sydney councils to put up with lol.

[Starmamu]

As a relatively new punter, I would say the Sydney scene is spoilt for choice if youre into Asian RnT.
but finding a gem that you keep going back to is the key - like you say, there are lots of good. .... but to find a great one, would require lots of trial and errors.

Also, finding it funny that its cheaper and easier to find a Japanese ML here than to find one in Tokyo (as a foreigner)

[Hu6e]

I dont rnt.... so can't comment on ml.

But Sydney needs a SoapLand.

[Bly]

What do you think makes the Sydney punter scene good or bad? What is unique and what would you like to see improved? This can be about massage or full service.

For example, in another thread talking about the Sydney massage scene I gave my opinion that there are many girls who I would consider good but few that I would consider to be Great (high quality part one, excellent body to body technique and an awesome finish). On top of this the great ones are starting to age out of the business and retire and there does not seem to be anyone from new generation stepping up to replace them. The common factor for these greats is they trained and worked overseas in men's spas and soaplands, they were true professionals.

Do you agree or differ with my assessment on this?

A thing I would like to see change in Sydney is KTV similar to how you get in parts of Asia, although I understand that this is likely much too wild for Sydney councils to put up with lol.


As a relatively new punter, I would say the Sydney scene is spoilt for choice if youre into Asian RnT.
but finding a gem that you keep going back to is the key - like you say, there are lots of good. .... but to find a great one, would require lots of trial and errors.

Also, finding it funny that its cheaper and easier to find a Japanese ML here than to find one in Tokyo (as a foreigner)

I agree that the variety is there for Asian ML. But some more variety in shops, like places that do Nuru or have spas/are like bathhouses, etc would be cool.

The prices are also really good - my experiences overseas have cost way more. Even compared to other places in Aus it is just way better for price and availability (although i've only tried in Melbourne and North QLD so not 100% sure on this).

[Momoe]

What do you think makes the Sydney punter scene good or bad? What is unique and what would you like to see improved? This can be about massage or full service.

For example, in another thread talking about the Sydney massage scene I gave my opinion that there are many girls who I would consider good but few that I would consider to be Great (high quality part one, excellent body to body technique and an awesome finish). On top of this the great ones are starting to age out of the business and retire and there does not seem to be anyone from new generation stepping up to replace them. The common factor for these greats is they trained and worked overseas in men's spas and soaplands, they were true professionals.

Do you agree or differ with my assessment on this?

A thing I would like to see change in Sydney is KTV similar to how you get in parts of Asia, although I understand that this is likely much too wild for Sydney councils to put up with lol.

You do have Asian style KTVs here, but smaller and more discreet usually around CBD, eg Gala, Sugar. You need to ask inside for the mamasan, those girls don't loiter around

[Bly]

You do have Asian style KTVs here, but smaller and more discreet usually around CBD, eg Gala, Sugar. You need to ask inside for the mamasan, those girls don't loiter around

Are they crazy crazy expensive?

[Momoe]

Are they crazy crazy expensive?

The only time i foot the bill it was about $100-150 per hour for a girl at the old Sugar. The girls would allow you to cuddle and touch them so long you buy booze after booze. So yes, pretty expensive at that time. Not sure bout now though

[Eclipsefun]

The only time i foot the bill it was about $100-150 per hour for a girl at the old Sugar. The girls would allow you to cuddle and touch them so long you buy booze after booze. So yes, pretty expensive at that time. Not sure bout now though

I am aware, and like you say "cuddle and touch". It is all a little tame.

[rooter]

But Sydney needs a SoapLand.

Soaplands like the ones in Pattaya are great but probably not economically viable in Sydney.
To have a proper soapland you need a big venue and every room has to be big and have all the necessary infrastructure.
So with Sydney property prices you probably couldn't get an affordable big space near the city so would have to go far West or South.
Also the same space that you set up 5 rooms in a soapland you can set up a normal brothel with 10 rooms and earn twice as much.
Also there is the issue of finding girls who can do the proper soaplands service.
And you can't do the proper soaplands service for a 30 min session so you are losing lots of short stay customers.
So ultimately you will get a shop far from the city, with huge overheads, and so having to charge top dollar for services, and not enough customers.
So even if it was set up it would probably fail.

[Eclipsefun]

Soaplands like the ones in Pattaya are great but probably not economically viable in Sydney.
To have a proper soapland you need a big venue and every room has to be big and have all the necessary infrastructure.
So with Sydney property prices you probably couldn't get an affordable big space near the city so would have to go far West or South.
Also the same space that you set up 5 rooms in a soapland you can set up a normal brothel with 10 rooms and earn twice as much.
Also there is the issue of finding girls who can do the proper soaplands service.
And you can't do the proper soaplands service for a 30 min session so you are losing lots of short stay customers.
So ultimately you will get a shop far from the city, with huge overheads, and so having to charge top dollar for services, and not enough customers.
So even if it was set up it would probably fail.

I was thinking of this earlier. I do not think we have the population density or property to pull it off, nor do we have the social or economic factors that make them viable in other nations. The OG Japanese soaplands came about as ways to get through a loophole on Japanese prostitution laws, and the Thai variety because it is inexpensive to run one there.

Don't get me wrong, I would love one here, but idk how the hell anyone could turn a profit with one with Sydney prices.

[AHLUNGOR]

Soaplands like the ones in Pattaya are great but probably not economically viable in Sydney.
To have a proper soapland you need a big venue and every room has to be big and have all the necessary infrastructure.
So with Sydney property prices you probably couldn't get an affordable big space near the city so would have to go far West or South.
Also the same space that you set up 5 rooms in a soapland you can set up a normal brothel with 10 rooms and earn twice as much.
Also there is the issue of finding girls who can do the proper soaplands service.
And you can't do the proper soaplands service for a 30 min session so you are losing lots of short stay customers.
So ultimately you will get a shop far from the city, with huge overheads, and so having to charge top dollar for services, and not enough customers.
So even if it was set up it would probably fail.

Well, the closest to soap land in Sydney was the King Service at the Chequers on Goulburn, check my old review with photos. And even Chequers is now closed !

The 244 has a similar set up last time I visited but probably not as authentic as Chequers, anyway, I think all your points are relevant! I just wish I could still visit Macau or Tung Guan again - alone !....... haha

[Hu6e]

Soaplands like the ones in Pattaya are great but probably not economically viable in Sydney.
To have a proper soapland you need a big venue and every room has to be big and have all the necessary infrastructure.
So with Sydney property prices you probably couldn't get an affordable big space near the city so would have to go far West or South.
Also the same space that you set up 5 rooms in a soapland you can set up a normal brothel with 10 rooms and earn twice as much.
Also there is the issue of finding girls who can do the proper soaplands service.
And you can't do the proper soaplands service for a 30 min session so you are losing lots of short stay customers.
So ultimately you will get a shop far from the city, with huge overheads, and so having to charge top dollar for services, and not enough customers.
So even if it was set up it would probably fail.

Totally agree.
There would not be enough money in it.
In Thailand the top shelf ladies at soapies are 3500-4000 baht.

But dreams are free, right??
It is but a dream....

[Raybo]

And even Chequers is now closed !

You sure about that Brah Ahl? I am at Mr B's across the road most weekends and i am pretty sure i seen the famous Chequers doors open again?

[Bly]

The only time i foot the bill it was about $100-150 per hour for a girl at the old Sugar. The girls would allow you to cuddle and touch them so long you buy booze after booze. So yes, pretty expensive at that time. Not sure bout now though

Cheers man. Pretty sure they are really expensive overseas too so I wasn't expecting anything different

[ausnew]

were lacking a solid private scene , going to hong kong blew my mind, I guess thats because they dont have brothels but its a lot of fun and would be cool if we had similar here

[Riff888]

were lacking a solid private scene , going to hong kong blew my mind, I guess thats because they dont have brothels but its a lot of fun and would be cool if we had similar hereIt was great up until 2017 when all the rich Chinese investors went back to China and the FBI locked down Cracker/Backpage.

Met amazing girls on the private scene and some great memories.

There was this Aussie agency that brought in babes from interstate just for a few days at $350 an hour. Aussie girls are awesome at DFK, the girl I saw called Victoria was 175cm with enhanced DDs. I only got to see her once.

Another Aussie girl called Desiree something, had her own apartment in Quay West. Worked with another tall brunette. Had a few awesome doubles overlooking the harbour.

Back in 2014, there was a 19 year old Aussie girl called Rebecca, $300 including CIM. She lived and worked from an apartment in Carrington Apartments on York St.

An old regular around 2014/2015 was Joline Tong from HK. She lived in Lumiere Apartments on Bathurst St. $300 all inclusive loved DATY and DFK.

Around the same time was Ella, a Singapore/Japan mix lived in an apartment on the corner of Sussex and Bathurst St. She loved DATY but only CBJ. Can't complain at $200 per hour.

So many hotties from ES agency, with apartments on Shelley St, Sussex and Kent St.

I guess all the private girls have no choice but to work at shops and probably keep a handful of their old customers from the good old days.

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[ausnew]

strange we dont get more private girls undercutting brothels running out of thier own apartments / homes, is it illegal to do it?

[Riff888]

strange we dont get more private girls undercutting brothels running out of thier own apartments / homes, is it illegal to do it?I think it's a combination of things.

Chinese business men were the best customers for incall and outcall, they had no problem paying between $1,200 to $1,500 for overnight stays. They have left now, most local guys go to shops.

There was a guy called Michael running an outcall agency called Bonk Tonight/411 Escorts, he was dodgy as and didn't care about the girls. Worked with a guy called Stefan. They both have disappeared. Their agency was the cheapest with $220 per hour all inclusive depending on the girl.

With agencies that used inner city apartments. They found it harder to find apartments because residents complained and some of the agency owners got blacklisted with real estate agents. So no apartment, no business.

The big drop was because of Cracker/Backpage being shut down so no advertising platform. It's now WeChat and Locanto.

There's so many girls at lots of shops, so it's great for punters.

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[Eclipsefun]

I wish the girls at Asian Fs joints were more open to doing Anal. Unfortunalty most are not, and the ones that are tend to be old and desperate for customers. Instead I generally have to spend time tracking down a private wl who is all about it.

[toysrus]

Personally I think rimming and CIM should be universally dropped, I really think Sydney has lost the plot here. Considering the human tongue is porous, a girl would have to spend a good amount of time actually scrubbing their tongue between bookings to really get all traces of her last client off her. Given that popular girls get booked back to back often with no breaks, it's really disgusting to think you could indirectly be DFKing some dudes ass.

Another thing to think about is how many new comers to the industry are we potentially missing out on where these services are the deal breaker for them starting out.

[Hogrider]

Forgot before, more than anything we also need a Chinese shop to offer the Red Rope service as a special.

I am voting for that !!!
Where should I sign 😈