Bareback with WL

[Brothelcreeper]

why would you do a BB with a WL servicing 6-8 cocks a days; not being cocky but i was tempted and too horny to reject once in guildford's brothel but couple of pumps and i chicken out.

Hmmmm....because their pussies feel nicer bareback ?

[downzones123]

Hmmmm....because their pussies feel nicer bareback ?

can't win that statement at all.

well here's to all the scientists reading/ scrolling this forum; make a drug to temporarily repel any STDS for 1hr+ when you do bareback.

[Pussyboy]

I always prefer to be safe. Sure a naked pussy feels nice but at what price to you and the girl

[El_nino]

Is there much risk from a pussy slide?

[tomjones]

Not worth it, if she's doing it with you she's doing it with others.

[AHLUNGOR]

Is there much risk from a pussy slide?

Mate,

What are the risks involved with BBFS ?

Bodily fluids come into contact with the opposite sex’s genitals: for example- your cum inside of her pussy or her vagina juices/blood come into contact with your dick’s opening.

Now think pussy slides : would any of the above situation happen ?

[bobbyj99]

nothing to comment really

[wwttff]

About 5-6 years ago, I was at Commonwealth Street joint. I chose a Vietnamese girl who has a very innocent look and pretty cute face. She was quite passive in terms of services, and the passiveness didn't help to stay hard... To my surprise(since she looks quite innocent), she asked me why I went soft. I told her that she was quite cold and the dom didn't feel comfortable. She then took the dom off and proceed with BBBJ(this shop usually only offered CBJ). She got me quite horny with the sudden change of attitude.... and we proceed with about 5 minutes of BBFS. Then my brain took over the thinking from my dick, I slowly withdrew and asked her to finish with a HJ.......

Memory........

[GoldfishMan]

Mate,

What are the risks involved with BBFS ?

Bodily fluids come into contact with the opposite sex’s genitals: for example- your cum inside of her pussy or her vagina juices/blood come into contact with your dick’s opening.

Now think pussy slides : would any of the above situation happen ?
Maybe you need to explain to the last detail about the risks so they get it. The human body has 3 organs that can produce and accept body fluids: mouth, genitals, and anus.
If any of the 3 come in direct contact with each other, there is risk. Your mouth / her pussy, you dick / her pussy, her mouth / your dick, etc.
Having said that, I am guilty of knowing the risks and still giving in to my desires. So far my record over the last 9 years of punting, I've barebacked 4 Koreans, 3 Chinese, 1 Taiwanese, 1 Thai.

[Effindahead]

Maybe you need to explain to the last detail about the risks so they get it. The human body has 3 organs that can produce and accept body fluids: mouth, genitals, and anus.
If any of the 3 come in direct contact with each other, there is risk. Your mouth / her pussy, you dick / her pussy, her mouth / your dick, etc.
Having said that, I am guilty of knowing the risks and still giving in to my desires. So far my record over the last 9 years of punting, I've barebacked 4 Koreans, 3 Chinese, 1 Taiwanese, 1 Thai.
9 years for 9 barebacks. So it's 1:1.
Have you ever caught any STI? If not, I think the safe rate is once a year. Lol
And based on WLs nationality, Korean is the easiest to have bareback with. While Japanese WLs are more concerned about the health. This is proven by the above statistics.
And somehow, I quite agree with the finding.
Don't you think so?

[Momoe]

9 years for 9 barebacks. So it's 1:1.
Have you ever caught any STI? If not, I think the safe rate is once a year. Lol
And based on WLs nationality, Korean is the easiest to have bareback with. While Japanese WLs are more concerned about the health. This is proven by the above statistics.
And somehow, I quite agree with the finding.
Don't you think so?
So far most Japanese told me they are more concerned about getting pregnant than STIs.
Had quite a high chance of bareback when i was punting in Japan. Maybe because their awareness about STIs are quite low.

In Sydney i have more chances with Chinese/Taiwanese but tend to only dare do it with agencies and privates.

[GoldfishMan]

9 years for 9 barebacks. So it's 1:1.
Have you ever caught any STI? If not, I think the safe rate is once a year. Lol
And based on WLs nationality, Korean is the easiest to have bareback with. While Japanese WLs are more concerned about the health. This is proven by the above statistics.
And somehow, I quite agree with the finding.
Don't you think so?
Err, no mate, I wouldn't call any of it safe. I did get an STI, on the first BB I did with a Korean ML. Cleared it with a single dose of antibiotics. Colour me stupid or reckless or both, i kept going for more after that.
And it's not 9 "times" in 9 years.... 9 girls. I've forgotten how many times I did them. What can I say, BB is addictive. Each time I do it, I tell myself this is the last time. Well it's never the last time is it?
About Japanese girls, I could've got a few, but I just never had much of desire for them so never tried hard to get it. I find them lacking in real passion, and I always get the feeling that they're looking for a certain quality in men that I do not possess. Koreans.... I love them. For some reason they click with me very well.
Chinese take the spot for most passionate. Taiwanese are just weird... Massive identity crisis in all of them... Am I Chinese or Taiwanese? Lol...

[Effindahead]

Err, no mate, I wouldn't call any of it safe. I did get an STI, on the first BB I did with a Korean ML. Cleared it with a single dose of antibiotics. Colour me stupid or reckless or both, i kept going for more after that.
And it's not 9 "times" in 9 years.... 9 girls. I've forgotten how many times I did them. What can I say, BB is addictive. Each time I do it, I tell myself this is the last time. Well it's never the last time is it?
About Japanese girls, I could've got a few, but I just never had much of desire for them so never tried hard to get it. I find them lacking in real passion, and I always get the feeling that they're looking for a certain quality in men that I do not possess. Koreans.... I love them. For some reason they click with me very well.
Chinese take the spot for most passionate. Taiwanese are just weird... Massive identity crisis in all of them... Am I Chinese or Taiwanese? Lol...
It's ok I have done BBs too. I was only joking in my previous post but I appreciate the honesty. It shows that you are not a hypocrite.
When I had BB, I always see the same girl, I don't do other BB with other girl and even see another girl. Cos I thought I don't want to be a STI spreader as I know and willing to take the risk. And all the BBs I had done was all initiated by the girl - I'm not bragging about it. Yes I know it's still wrong but I just couldn't resist the guilty pleasure in it.
Would I do it again if I the opportunity comes along? It's 60:40. Depends on the girl.

[Mr.Yo]

Done this only onetime with a lebo chick called Amira(Hanna) She used to work in the industry few years back then turned religious and stopped working in the industry but kept seeing me for some reason & offered me bb service.

[liminal]

Off the top of my head its possible you could get Herpes, Chlamydia, and Hepatitis from a pussy slide

add embarrassment , shame and divorce

[BuryYourDead]

I ain't fussed.
If it's on the cards, I am down

[Raybo]

I ain't fussed.
If it's on the cards, I am down

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[N3ur071c]

I ain't fussed.
If it's on the cards, I am down

Each to their own but too much risk for me

[asiafever]

Have had it offered on several occasions.
First was by a Korean wl who I was regular with. One day she just decided she thought it was time for "the next level." She was an awesome fuck even covered.
One was a cauc wl who said she just wanted to rip it off because she can't cum with one.
One was a Chinese ml who was absolutely dripping wet and wanted it then and there.
One was a Chinese wl who had gone nuts in DATY fucking my face and said she wanted to "feel my cum inside her."
And one was a Korean wl who said she didn't bring one in to the room.
All were offers at different establishments.

[asiafever]

Oh and a thai ml that used to do awesome pussy slides etc, and loved me sliding up and down her perfect arse crack and cumming all over her arse, or her on top and cumming on her pussy. one day she was particularly horny while pussy sliding so bb was put on the table.

[BuryYourDead]

Oh and a thai ml that used to do awesome pussy slides etc, and loved me sliding up and down her perfect arse crack and cumming all over her arse, or her on top and cumming on her pussy. one day she was particularly horny while pussy sliding so bb was put on the table.

Nice.

I have had abit of a punting break for awhile, so no new stories.

I will say this however... every, and I mean every, consistent sexual partner i have had (whether paid or unpaid), has said that sex without a condom is less painful, than with.
Many have said it was due to size and it was really uncomfortable to have sex with bigger guys when they use a condom. Others have simply said that it is just a better feeling. The squirt is an indicator of truth.

When all is said and done, I have to bring my own gear anyways.
The regular size just cuts off the circulation, and from then on it's a one way ticket to FloppyTown.

[asiafever]

Nice.

I have had abit of a punting break for awhile, so no new stories.

I will say this however... every, and I mean every, consistent sexual partner i have had (whether paid or unpaid), has said that sex without a condom is less painful, than with.
Many have said it was due to size and it was really uncomfortable to have sex with bigger guys when they use a condom. Others have simply said that it is just a better feeling. The squirt is an indicator of truth.

When all is said and done, I have to bring my own gear anyways.
The regular size just cuts off the circulation, and from then on it's a one way ticket to FloppyTown.

Yeah agreed, have heard the same. Ex wife HATED condoms. Ex gf would go through phases of trying to be good and insist on wearing one, but eventually would just ask me to take it off and instantly her response was to get louder and more into it.

I always liked the Billy Connolly line "I don't like using them, I just find the smell of burning rubber offensive. "

[cuteguy]

Have had it offered on several occasions.
First was by a Korean wl who I was regular with. One day she just decided she thought it was time for "the next level." She was an awesome fuck even covered.
One was a cauc wl who said she just wanted to rip it off because she can't cum with one.
One was a Chinese ml who was absolutely dripping wet and wanted it then and there.
One was a Chinese wl who had gone nuts in DATY fucking my face and said she wanted to "feel my cum inside her."
And one was a Korean wl who said she didn't bring one in to the room.
All were offers at different establishments.

Do you get the impression that Chinese and Korean girls are more willing to go BB than other nationalities?

[asiafever]

Do you get the impression that Chinese and Korean girls are more willing to go BB than other nationalities?

Yeah I do, but maybe that's a weight of numbers thing. Have had far more experience with Chinese and Koreans so by law of averages have been offered more from those nationalities.

[yug]

Not that I haven't thought about it...But at this point, I prefer fingering a naked pussy.
Sure you don't feel like your penis is getting stroked but...Sorry!...I don't know where I was going with this...

[Raybo]

Yeah I do, but maybe that's a weight of numbers thing. Have had far more experience with Chinese and Koreans so by law of averages have been offered more from those nationalities.

Haha. BBFS analysis by race or country. 😁

[asiafever]

Haha. BBFS analysis by race or country. ��

In a dating rather than punting sense, Japanese and Korean were more likely to go bareback in my experience, but again that could be because I spent more time with them. The Chinese gf I had was paranoid and even wanted me to pull out when cumming with a rubber on. She was a bit weird though... cauc girls I dated were all safety first.

[Dettol]

In general I’m on the “it’s too risky” camp, but I let the spur of the moment get the better of me on 2 occasions over last 10 years. Both were really popular retired wls on here and I checked up after both times. Popular wls here tend to be on safe side since they have so many customers plus there is no need to offer it, but does make me wonder how many others they have offered to and makes it even more dangerous

Sorry to spoil your bragging but the popular ones are often offering BBFS - and THAT is partly why they’re popular.

[didaswiwaw]

In general I’m on the “it’s too risky” camp, but I let the spur of the moment get the better of me on 2 occasions over last 10 years. Both were really popular retired wls on here and I checked up after both times. Popular wls here tend to be on safe side since they have so many customers plus there is no need to offer it, but does make me wonder how many others they have offered to and makes it even more dangerous

Agreed with Dettol and Pleck, most popular ones are often the ones who offer risky act. I find girls who got lots of review for their amazing pussyslide have higher chance to be okay with BBFS.

I mean there's a reason why shops who don't offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY(only safe services) are not as popular as shops who offer more risky act.

[GoldfishMan]

Sorry to spoil your bragging but the popular ones are often offering BBFS - and THAT is partly why they’re popular.
This is true, but only for those that give BBFS to most of their clients. These are generally not so hot, service is nothing exceptional, and have extremely long careers at the same shops. There's no other justification for the longevity of their popularity, than this.
Also note, once a WL that does this has built up a solid base of regulars, she will shut the door on giving it to newer customers. Most times you'll be too late to the party, unfortunately.

I personally judge these to be of a different "level" from the other type... Those that were never popular at any given time in their usually short career. BB with those type was really unforgettable!

[GoldfishMan]

What if you used to BB with the WL and suddenly on your next visit, she wants to put the condom on?
Had that happened to me before. I think she was having emotional troubles... Even put on a lot of weight. I couldn't even finish the session, it was bad. After a while, I visited again and she was back to normal. The sex was phenomenal!

[Riff888]

What if you used to BB with the WL and suddenly on your next visit, she wants to put the condom on?Yes happened with a long time regular.
Only because I told her I have a girlfriend.
A few weeks later and things are back to normal.

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[Dettol]

Yes happened with a long time regular.
Only because I told her I have a girlfriend.
A few weeks later and things are back to normal.

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She got better sense than you LOL

[Raybo]

What is the general excuse for BB? Getting caught up in the moment? Had one of those in February with a girl I was seeing for the first time. Seemed like the natural thing to do, but after a minute or so I pulled out and got her to dom me up.

[Riff888]

She got better sense than you LOLLol totally, my dumb ass [emoji2365]

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[GoldfishMan]

I should add to my previous post.
What I meant to ask was the way you respond to that?
Are u going to have it covered or just going in no matter what?
Of course I respect the girl's wishes. That goes without saying. If you go BB without consent, that's sexual assault.

[Riff888]

I should add to my previous post.
What I meant to ask was the way you respond to that?
Are u going to have it covered or just going in no matter what?It's up to the girls, whatever they want to do it's their decision.

I don't argue, I just go with the flow.

I get tested twice a year and so far so good.

This is the same for dates as well. BB is more common in a dating situation though.

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[Riff888]

What is the general excuse for BB? Getting caught up in the moment? Had one of those in February with a girl I was seeing for the first time. Seemed like the natural thing to do, but after a minute or so I pulled out and got her to dom me up.Was something on your mind to have a change of heart mid act?

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[Raybo]

Was something on your mind to have a change of heart mid act?

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Probably did more BB than not the last 18 months. Just a bad habit to get into I guess and also hard to break.

[Riff888]

Probably did more BB than not the last 18 months. Just a bad habit to get into I guess and also hard to break.Yep, all too easy to become a habit.

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[Raybo]

So it's fairly common out there?

I would say yes, in the cheaper shops.

[johnconnor69er]

BB is coming more common in my opinion. More gals offering so I was taking it up more . AS Raybo says hard to turn down as feels so good.

[local]

If I'm in that position..I don't think I can accept the girl's wishes..I don't know it's 50-50 I guess.
Now, when you do BB apart from STI, what if the girl gets pregnant?
Especially the ones that already with a partner...

Huh ??

They are with a partner and working as a WL ..
And they want BB, not your issue...

[asheton]

Never been offered it and would be kind of horrified to have it on the cards. In saying that, many a situation where the little head has ruled the big head, no willpower in that department so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

[halfway]

I'm more puzzled why these WG would be offering it to there customers. How come they are not worried about catching something or dudes blowing loads inside them ? surely they understand that customers are also seeing other WG's .

[krnboy]

I'm more puzzled why these WG would be offering it to there customers. How come they are not worried about catching something or dudes blowing loads inside them ? surely they understand that customers are also seeing other WG's .

Usually it is offered to regular customers who they have seen a number of times and built a relationship. I get offered all the time by my regular

[happyspider]

I'm more puzzled why these WG would be offering it to there customers. How come they are not worried about catching something or dudes blowing loads inside them ? surely they understand that customers are also seeing other WG's .

Bcoz she is meeting you halfway....Hahahaha

[fface2014]

Agreed with Dettol and Pleck, most popular ones are often the ones who offer risky act. I find girls who got lots of review for their amazing pussyslide have higher chance to be okay with BBFS.

I mean there's a reason why shops who don't offer BBBJ, DFK, and DATY(only safe services) are not as popular as shops who offer more risky act.

See BBFS is a lot more riskier than BBBJ or DATY or Kissing or pussy sliding. So I do not think comparison is right. I have read in many blogs and forums and by people in medical professions that they have not come across anyone that has been infected with HIV due to getting blow job or DATY but have come across many that has been infected by BBFS. But there are other things you could get from bbbj and daty not the deadly one.

Look not trying to scare anyone but I would personally keep away from bbfs.buteach to Thier own

[Raybo]

Look not trying to scare anyone but I would personally keep away from bbfs.buteach to Thier own

Once you break the seal with a girl it's not easy to go back. When you go back to see them they automatically think you are a BB guy. So it's really up to the punter to maintain standards.

I am fine with all other services being BB, but really wanting to cover up when doing FS now, despite it being nowhere near as nice a feeling as BB. I often wonder if girls can feel the difference as much as guys? Obviously feel CIP and many girls love that feeling, but what about feeling when fucking?

[Riff888]

Once you break the seal with a girl it's not easy to go back. When you go back to see them they automatically think you are a BB guy. So it's really up to the punter to maintain standards.

I am fine with all other services being BB, but really wanting to cover up when doing FS now, despite it being nowhere near as nice a feeling as BB. I often wonder if girls can feel the difference as much as guys? Obviously feel CIP and many girls love that feeling, but what about feeling when fucking?Yes most girls love BB as well and yes especially CIP.

But most of the girls from overseas don't take the pill either, so you might catch something for the next 18 years plus.

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[Sydlong]

Yes most girls love BB as well and yes especially CIP.

But most of the girls from overseas don't take the pill either, so you might catch something for the next 18 years plus.

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I think that is the plan sometimes!

I am sure some of them have been sizing me up to see if I was a suitable 'donor'

[footboy2012]

sorry, who the hell does bbfs
gambling with health

[Raybo]

sorry, who the hell does bbfs
gambling with health

lol, no one, the earth is flat, God exists, Snow White and the seven dwarfs is a true story and the pyramids were built by aliens.

Feel better now?

[Riff888]

lol, no one, the earth is flat, God exists, Snow White and the seven dwarfs is a true story and the pyramids were built by aliens.

Feel better now?Lol lol
A bit off topic but that reminds me of how many friends I have on Facebook suddenly sending me links to watch a David Icke live stream.

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[asheton]

Lol lol
A bit off topic but that reminds me of how many friends I have on Facebook suddenly sending me links to watch a David Icke live stream.

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Even wearing my best tin-foil hat, that was a hard slog to get through. Willing suspension of disbelief is a phrase I'd use to come to terms with it.

[footboy2012]

lol, no one, the earth is flat, God exists, Snow White and the seven dwarfs is a true story and the pyramids were built by aliens.

Feel better now?

pretty fucked up

[Riff888]

Even wearing my best tin-foil hat, that was a hard slog to get through. Willing suspension of disbelief is a phrase I'd use to come to terms with it.I didn't watch it but read his accounts have been deleted.

I have seen a few of his videos, the whole royal family are reptilian hybrids turned me off.

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[Whyme]

I'm one of them that likes bb. CIP even better but thats rarer. Yea I know the risks but I guess I can't resist. Luckily alot of girls are up for it with a bit of cash incentive.

[asheton]

I'm one of them that likes bb. CIP even better but thats rarer. Yea I know the risks but I guess I can't resist. Luckily alot of girls are up for it with a bit of cash incentive.

So it's seen as an 'extra'? I guess anything is possible if you flash enough cash. Duly noted anyway.

[AHLUNGOR]

I'm one of them that likes bb. CIP even better but thats rarer. Yea I know the risks but I guess I can't resist. Luckily alot of girls are up for it with a bit of cash incentive.

I don’t understand, if the WL allows BB, won’t that includes cum inside ? Otherwise, pulling it out won’t be a good way to finish I don’t think 🤔, no ?

[Raybo]

I don’t understand, if the WL allows BB, won’t that includes cum inside ? Otherwise, pulling it out won’t be a good way to finish I don’t think 🤔, no ?

Nah it's not a given, girls will do BB but tell you to pull out.....and the CIM bandits out there, well I don't need to explain that.

[GoldfishMan]

I don’t understand, if the WL allows BB, won’t that includes cum inside ? Otherwise, pulling it out won’t be a good way to finish I don’t think 🤔, no ?
Of course cumming inside is the best feeling ever, but different girls have different situations. If a girl doesn't normally do BBFS, she wouldn't be on the pill or have any other backup plan. So it's understandable for her to not allow it.
Out of all the girls I've fucked raw, only 4 allowed cum inside, and that includes 1 ex-wife wanting to get pregnant and 2 ex-GFs who were on the pill, and the other being a WG.
Yep, the WG was definitely a red flag since she clearly had a backup plan, pill or whatever it may be, meaning she's well prepared for BBFS with me and other customers presumably. I only did her "sparingly", haha!
For all the others, those magic words "don't cum inside" are like music to my ears... Brings down the risk level a few notches!

[Climax598]

What makes you think BB withdrawn wouldn't get her pregnant. All you need is a little pre juices coming out inside her then you win a lotto.

[fface2014]

What makes you think BB withdrawn wouldn't get her pregnant. All you need is a little pre juices coming out inside her then you win a lotto.

Yes technically possible but chances are very low.

[GoldfishMan]

What makes you think BB withdrawn wouldn't get her pregnant. All you need is a little pre juices coming out inside her then you win a lotto.
Yeah, have to agree, pulling out is not the best method of prevention, but it's better than nothing. Been doing ok so far... Touching on wood here!

[Climax598]

Yes technically possible but chances are very low.
This depend on how good your juice is. If your sperm is good/strong and the girl is fertile at the correct time a little pre juices will do the job.

[holi_day]

One of the WLs I had BB with actually enjoyed me CIP.

[Whyme]

So it's seen as an 'extra'? I guess anything is possible if you flash enough cash. Duly noted anyway.
There are some girls out there that are known to offer BB as extras while not offering it explicity while some advertise it outright. Most of the time though, you should go a few times or become a regular to build up the relationship first. Also depends on your general apperance and how hygenic you appear to be. Not everyone offering a wad of cash will get it (though if it was a big stack...).

[local]

One of the WLs I had BB with actually enjoyed me CIP.

its not only WL's.

Its the feel they get.
In some ways, its similar to say having an enema, might be a turn on for some.

[Whyme]

I don’t understand, if the WL allows BB, won’t that includes cum inside ? Otherwise, pulling it out won’t be a good way to finish I don’t think ��, no ?

It makes no difference in terms of STDs but I suppose mentally if feels "safer". The same with pussy slides imo, not much diff with bb. Also cleanup I guess is bit more work as they gotta do the crab stance in shower to wash the load out. Would be a hassle for a busy lady.

[GoldfishMan]

There are some girls out there that are known to offer BB as extras while not offering it explicity while some advertise it outright. Most of the time though, you should go a few times or become a regular to build up the relationship first. Also depends on your general apperance and how hygenic you appear to be. Not everyone offering a wad of cash will get it (though if it was a big stack...).
That part about offering more money to get it, I only agree partially. Only 25% of WGs I BBed were a result of extra cash. Mind you, I wasn't the type to go looking for BBFS, so I can't speak for the experience with those that advertise openly. All the other ones I had never asked for extra and didn't ask for tips after. I did tip them on my own accord in the end, though... No idea if they would've asked if I tried to leave without giving one.
One K ML even refused my tips on all occasions I saw her. That was a strange one, came and went very quickly, left me wondering... Was there more to it that I could've got? Who knows...

The other one about becoming a regular, I downright disagree. If she likes you, you'll get it on the first or at most second go. If she don't like you or she has her own strict rules, you won't get nothing even after a hundred goes.
If a WG really turns you on, by all means be a regular, just don't do it with the expectation that somehow she will change her mind or rules after n-number of visits. You will be disappointed.

[Vader]

Years ago I had a friend that worked in a very popular shop.She hated condoms and barebacked everybody> It made me laugh when she kept telling me she couldn't understand why she was so popular as there were better looking girls than her in the shop.

[brotherjim]

I don’t understand, if the WL allows BB, won’t that includes cum inside ? Otherwise, pulling it out won’t be a good way to finish I don’t think 🤔, no ?

The Korean bird I used to do BB was happy for CIP but when she was ovulating she was still happy to BB and for me to pull out. Clearly she wasn’t on the pill and for what ever reason placed trust in me to pull out. Crazy days frankly.

Ps anyone remember her? It was 2006 and her name was Jean. She worked in Canberra and somewhere in Sydney.

[holi_day]

That part about offering more money to get it, I only agree partially. Only 25% of WGs I BBed were a result of extra cash. Mind you, I wasn't the type to go looking for BBFS, so I can't speak for the experience with those that advertise openly. All the other ones I had never asked for extra and didn't ask for tips after. I did tip them on my own accord in the end, though... No idea if they would've asked if I tried to leave without giving one.
One K ML even refused my tips on all occasions I saw her. That was a strange one, came and went very quickly, left me wondering... Was there more to it that I could've got? Who knows...

The other one about becoming a regular, I downright disagree. If she likes you, you'll get it on the first or at most second go. If she don't like you or she has her own strict rules, you won't get nothing even after a hundred goes.
If a WG really turns you on, by all means be a regular, just don't do it with the expectation that somehow she will change her mind or rules after n-number of visits. You will be disappointed.

Couldn't agree more. If a WL is willing to do it with you, she will do it quick.

Just some fun fact from my personal experience, over the years the ladies I have BB with, always happened on the second time we had sex. I can never make it on the first time. As well, if a WL refused when I asked on the second visit, I can never get it despite how many more times I see her. Also agree it's never a result of tips. I did come a cross a WL, I pulled out the condom wanted to cum on her tummy, she thought I wanted to BB and said "extra for BB." I didn't go for it as I couldn't hold off and cum on her tummy.

Not that I asked every WL for BB. Only the one that I feel strong connection and have a strong desire to go for the extra intimacy. So my experience was from limited WLs. Didn't want to reveal how many. Other bro can add their experiences to this.

[brotherjim]

Couldn't agree more. If a WL is willing to do it with you, she will do it quick.

Just some fun fact from my personal experience, over the years the ladies I have BB with, always happened on the second time we had sex. I can never make it on the first time. As well, if a WL refused when I asked on the second visit, I can never get it despite how many more times I see her. Also agree it's never a result of tips. I did come a cross a WL, I pulled out the condom wanted to cum on her tummy, she thought I wanted to BB and said "extra for BB." I didn't go for it as I couldn't hold off and cum on her tummy.

Not that I asked every WL for BB. Only the one that I feel strong connection and have a strong desire to go for the extra intimacy. So my experience was from limited WLs. Didn't want to reveal how many. Other bro can add their experiences to this.

They may not do it for tips, but I am certain they do it for regular repeat visits which can be just as if not more profitable.

[zucon]

I think going bb as may it may sound exciting but it’s better to limit to your partner and not WL, keep her safe and you

[119tcs]

in the heat of the moment its hard to resist, had awesome BB sex with a caucasian WL that is a regular at one of the well known asian brothels, haven't caught anything luckily

[slim72]

definitely in the heat of the moment, hard to resist. And after doing it once, hard to stay away from it...

last year, a young jap girl at one of the well-known establishments rode me bareback for round 2 the first time I saw her. We were 69'ing with her on top, then she swung around and eased herself on me. I thought she'd rolled a dom on while she was having a bit of facetime with my lil bro, but when I changed positions for a bit of doggie, realised it was bareback. I saw her 5 more times before she went back to japan, each time not even a hint of her trying to put a condom on me. She probably did the same for at least some of the other guys she saw. I'm not naive as to think I was the only one, but thankfully, didn't catch anything.

[Happyman2018]

in the heat of the moment its hard to resist, had awesome BB sex with a caucasian WL that is a regular at one of the well known asian brothels, haven't caught anything luckily

I normally thought
Asian may got highly chance to do bb
But didn't know western will do

[Raybo]

The more I think about this thread the more I think don't do BBFS. It is really not much difference when it is with a prostitute, even with two of them. They work out imaginative ways to swap condoms, and I am quite happy to comply with their requests. Makes me laugh when guys buy the super thin condoms hahahaha

[DKRVX]

in the heat of the moment its hard to resist, had awesome BB sex with a caucasian WL that is a regular at one of the well known asian brothels, haven't caught anything luckily

Mind if you tell us who that was and at which place? How long ago was it as well?

[cmk76]

The more I think about this thread the more I think don't do BBFS. It is really not much difference when it is with a prostitute, even with two of them. They work out imaginative ways to swap condoms, and I am quite happy to comply with their requests. Makes me laugh when guys buy the super thin condoms hahahaha

Ehh? I'm one of them... I like my okamoto/sagami/okonomiyaki hybrid rubbers... Unfortunately, half the time they don't get a chance to see the light of day... Especially when she's on top and lowers herself on to me... I feel helpless, I feel used and I feel violated everytime it happens... But I hate it more when I enjoy it more than her!

[Raybo]

Ehh? I'm one of them... I like my okamoto/sagami/okonomiyaki hybrid rubbers... Unfortunately, half the time they don't get a chance to see the light of day... Especially when she's on top and lowers herself on to me... I feel helpless, I feel used and I feel violated everytime it happens... But I hate it more when I enjoy it more than her!

meh, I have tried thinner condoms, they all feel the same to me, I think it's purely a mental thing.

[mulanbaby]

Mr RayRay I think you are very smart.
I think that 0.01 is just in the mind.
How is it possible for person to feel the 0.01 difference.
I think I give $50 to play a game, one piece of paper is 0.01 the other 0.02, if someone can feel which is which no looking, then I pay. If get wrong, I take $50. I will become rich very soon.

[tpol]

Mr RayRay I think you are very smart.
I think that 0.01 is just in the mind.
How is it possible for person to feel the 0.01 difference.
I think I give $50 to play a game, one piece of paper is 0.01 the other 0.02, if someone can feel which is which no looking, then I pay. If get wrong, I take $50. I will become rich very soon.

Hey Miss Mulan, do girls feel the difference when a guy wears a condom and doesnt?

[holi_day]

The first WL I barebacked, was initiated by her. I was surprised as I thought women won't feel difference and don't like it so I never ask for BB. When we were done, I asked her why you want to do that? She said it feels good that way and wanted to do it with me.

I started using 001 last year, I do feel the difference just I can't tell if it's mental or physical. WLs often commented how natural it feels. A few even stopped during action and checked as they felt like I wasn't wearing anything.

[Carissawhore]

I have had 2 of my friends infected in the past just because they did BBBJ and BBFS. Let me tell you a story.
My friend and i were in Bangkok and we were to drunk and he picks up one of the bar girls for later that night, being all high he did not use protection and had BBFS with the bar girl and he did it few more times without protection with her couple of times when we were there since they had already done it once. We were back home and after a while i lost connection with him due to work and my personal life being busy and all, after 2 years or so, he rang me and told me that he was diagnosed with HIV and started to cry over the phone, he said he has only had unsafe sex once and that was with bar girl in Bangkok, it was sad to hear your long time mate got something he cannot get rid of for rest of his life nor can he have life partner. That was the last time i heard of him, i hope he is in better place.

I also used to see this WL on side and she said she got infected twice in her life, once when she had her pussy eaten by one of her customer and again she does not work regulary like most of the WL she does it once in 6 months for a week or 2 and then goes back to her regular day time work. This time she did only once with a customer and let him eat her pussy, she is very careful and does everything with protection and thought she might not catch anything but got caught with one of the STD and had to be on pills and struggled a lot since her pussy kept discharging whitish liquid and smelled bad and she said after sometime she got caught even using protection so she stopped being in this business for 3 years, she is now engaged to a pilot in Melbourne and in serious relationship and last time i spoke to her she said she is clean and wants to keep it that way as she is trying to have a family and her so does not k ow about her past.

Bottom line, if you love your life and care for others around you, use protection and you might have a good story to tell when you are old and gray and who knows you might still ha e energy to play with young WL or ML's.

Stay safe my fella punters, i have heard a lot more worse stories from some of my regular WL's, new like these spreads too fast and none of the shops gives a fuck about your life, all they need is your money. If a WL is doing with you she is doing with most of them, so you are not special to them, all theu need is your mula.
Private are the worst as they do not get tested so you are risking more if you are doing lot of private as there is no one to police these WL's (sorry thos is not targeted to privates on this forum) just trying to educate my fella punters of reality.

[Happyman2018]

I felt sorry for ur friend
But in Bangkok I don't even dare to do bb..
Its very dirty there

[mulanbaby]

Hey Miss Mulan, do girls feel the difference when a guy wears a condom and doesnt?

No I think same.
I cannot feel the 0.01 difference.
:prettiness:

[holi_day]

No I think same.
I cannot feel the 0.01 difference.
:prettiness:

Some do and some don't. I do, otherwise I won't spend 8 dollars for a 001.

[GoldfishMan]

Mr RayRay I think you are very smart.
I think that 0.01 is just in the mind.
How is it possible for person to feel the 0.01 difference.
I think I give $50 to play a game, one piece of paper is 0.01 the other 0.02, if someone can feel which is which no looking, then I pay. If get wrong, I take $50. I will become rich very soon.
I too vouch for the 001s. I think they are the peak of human achievement... Right up there with putting a man on the moon!
This comparison with a piece of paper is silly. My fingers are not my dick, just doesn't make sense.
See, a lot of people think that the 001s will somehow magically make pussies feel tighter or a dick feel bigger. That's stupid because the opposite is true... Thinner condom adds slightly less girth to the penis, right?

Now, what's so great about 001 if it won't make pussies feel tighter, you might ask? Why pay $5 a pop if it don't do that huh?? The secret is in the HEAT TRANSFER. OMG when I wear one of them, I tell you I can completely feel my partner's body heat on my cock. I am not sure what the girls feel, but they all say the difference is very obvious.
The only thing missing from the experience is the "sloppiness" of BBFS... From a man's POV, I can feel everything during BB, even the pussy juice/lube being messed around inside when I'm thrusting in. That cannot be felt with the 001s.

[zucon]

I too vouch for the 001s. I think they are the peak of human achievement... Right up there with putting a man on the moon!
This comparison with a piece of paper is silly. My fingers are not my dick, just doesn't make sense.
See, a lot of people think that the 001s will somehow magically make pussies feel tighter or a dick feel bigger. That's stupid because the opposite is true... Thinner condom adds slightly less girth to the penis, right?

Now, what's so great about 001 if it won't make pussies feel tighter, you might ask? Why pay $5 a pop if it don't do that huh?? The secret is in the HEAT TRANSFER. OMG when I wear one of them, I tell you I can completely feel my partner's body heat on my cock. I am not sure what the girls feel, but they all say the difference is very obvious.
The only thing missing from the experience is the "sloppiness" of BBFS... From a man's POV, I can feel everything during BB, even the pussy juice/lube being messed around inside when I'm thrusting in. That cannot be felt with the 001s.


Out of curiosity where to buy the 001.

[Raybo]

I too vouch for the 001s. I think they are the peak of human achievement... Right up there with putting a man on the moon!
This comparison with a piece of paper is silly. My fingers are not my dick, just doesn't make sense.
See, a lot of people think that the 001s will somehow magically make pussies feel tighter or a dick feel bigger. That's stupid because the opposite is true... Thinner condom adds slightly less girth to the penis, right?

Now, what's so great about 001 if it won't make pussies feel tighter, you might ask? Why pay $5 a pop if it don't do that huh?? The secret is in the HEAT TRANSFER. OMG when I wear one of them, I tell you I can completely feel my partner's body heat on my cock. I am not sure what the girls feel, but they all say the difference is very obvious.
The only thing missing from the experience is the "sloppiness" of BBFS... From a man's POV, I can feel everything during BB, even the pussy juice/lube being messed around inside when I'm thrusting in. That cannot be felt with the 001s.

Hahaha, the peak of human achievement. What was I thinking that AI, nanotechnology, medical and general technological advancements the world has devised and you think a super thin piece of resilient rubber is the ducks nuts of mankind's achievements!

All these things you describe I feel with regular condoms Its called friction. Sorry fellas, you are getting sold the equivalent of snake oil. I only talked to a WL about thin condoms the other day and she laughed at the notion it feels more real.

[holi_day]

Sorry fellas, you are getting sold the equivalent of snake oil. I only talked to a WL about thin condoms the other day and she laughed at the notion it feels more real.

Sorry I don't get what funny about this and I keep reading posts that people laugh at who use thin condoms and feel different. We do feel different and do enjoy it. Like some people see colors and some don't. I don't see a problem.

Like equally I wouldn't laugh at people who wear thick condoms and claim it feels no difference. That's their feeling. We can't force feeling into other people.

[Raybo]

Sorry I don't get what funny about this and I keep reading posts that people laugh at who use thin condoms and feel different. We do feel different and do enjoy it. Like some people see colors and some don't. I don't see a problem.

Like equally I wouldn't laugh at people who wear thick condoms and claim it feels no difference. That's their feeling. We can't force feeling into other people.

Yeah each to their own dude, sorry for laughing at you, my bad, whatever you need to do to heighten your experience is a good thing, even if it is a placebo

[tpol]

I feel the heat transfer with a normal condom when I first go in but I think your body gets used to it and then ignores the change in temperature. I should try one of those 001s

[Yageez88]

I did find a difference in the Japanese brands. Some felt good, some were soso.

So I'd vouch for them. Even some girls have asked me where I got them from because they felt better than what she was using. Others have said it felt natural too

[Raybo]

I did find a difference in the Japanese brands. Some felt good, some were soso.

So I'd vouch for them. Even some girls have asked me where I got them from because they felt better than what she was using. Others have said it felt natural too

Okay, it got me thinking, what is the difference? Never researching condoms before, the Japanese brands everyone is talking about are not made of rubber/latex but polyurethane. it seems as though it can instantly transfer warmth, which is better than rubber. Given these qualities of polyurethane, 0.01mm, 0.02mm, 0.03mm would have very little, if any difference.

You still want to get a snug fitting one by what I read on review though. Lots of guys complaining they order regular Sagami but felt that they were too tight. There were also discussion about 0.01 Sagami's not actually being a consistent 0.01 the entire length of the condom, only being that width at the base.

[rooter]

Couple of points.
Firstly, not all condoms are the same.
That's like saying all cars, or wines, or shoes, or frypans or whatever are the same.
There is always different quality, fit, materials, technology etc.
Secondly the guys who are saying they love these Japanese condoms are saying it feels great for them, the actual guy wearing it, they are not saying it's better for the girl. So a WL saying it feels no different for her is irrelevant.
An important thing with condoms is the size and fit and feel.
Most commercially available condoms come is a few sizes and materials. Then it's a matter of trial and error and if you find one that's perfect for you then stick with it.
If you still can't find the right size then there are websites you can go to find the perfect fit for you. You put in your dimensions and find the right size for you. Basically it's like a customised condom.
Of course they are more expensive but if you are paying $250 for a fuck then paying an extra $2 for the condom is a good investment if it gives you more pleasure, confidence, less fiddling around etc

[holi_day]

Sagami use the same material like our cling wraps which we use to wrap foods in kitchen. It was the first 001 I tried and it was a failure. To me it didn't have the proper elasticity and won't attach to my skin well. Made me uncomfortable. A pack of 3 I used 2 and gave up on the 3rd.

So I almost gave up on 001 completely but thought might give other brand a chance before moving on. So brought a pack of 3 Okatomo 001. Felt great. Not just the heat, if I am using it with the right girl, we can almost feel the texture of the skin mutually and also if the virgina fluid increases etc.

Just my personal experience! YMMV.

[GoldfishMan]

Sagami use the same material like our cling wraps which we use to wrap foods in kitchen. It was the first 001 I tried and it was a failure. To me it didn't have the proper elasticity and won't attach to my skin well. Made me uncomfortable. A pack of 3 I used 2 and gave up on the 3rd.

So I almost gave up on 001 completely but thought might give other brand a chance before moving on. So brought a pack of 3 Okatomo 001. Felt great. Not just the heat, if I am using it with the right girl, we can almost feel the texture of the skin mutually and also if the virgina fluid increases etc.

Just my personal experience! YMMV.
Totally agree. Okamotos are the best overall, and they come in XL size too! Mind you, XL size for Japanese condoms is like regular size here!
The only good thing about the sagamis is the blister pack they come in. Does a better job of keeping the goods safe.

[GoldfishMan]

Out of curiosity where to buy the 001.
I used to buy them when I travelled OS. All the Asian countries have them, just not here "officially".
Nowadays, you can get them here from places like one of those shops along George St selling Japanese make-up (opportunity to perv at young Asian girls while you're there!), or some Asian grocery stores have them too. They will usually be at or behind the till, though. Just walk up to the cute receptionist... Err I mean cashier... ask for 10 boxes XL size and look at their expressions! 🤣

[holi_day]

Totally agree. Okamotos are the best overall, and they come in XL size too! Mind you, XL size for Japanese condoms is like regular size here!

My first Okatomo tried was a regular size as I normally use regular on normal condom. It's true that the Okatomo is 2mm smaller. Obvious when I roll the ring down. I was wondering Japanese make it that way.

Then I was thinking I should go for bigger version so I bought a pack of Large to try then I understand why. They purposely make it one size smaller due to the soft texture. So it attach to the penis skin well to transmit the sensation. Literally forms part of the human skin. The large didn't work well for me so I converted back to regular as it works the best.

So theoretically if someone is using normal regular size condom should still use regular Okatomo although by measurement it's one size smaller. Again YMMV.

Having said that, best way is to try different size if not sure....before buying 10packs. 😀

[kingqxxx]

My first Okatomo tried was a regular size as I normally use regular on normal condom. It's true that the Okatomo is 2mm smaller. Obvious when I roll the ring down. I was wondering Japanese make it that way.

Then I was thinking I should go for bigger version so I bought a pack of Large to try then I understand why. They purposely make it one size smaller due to the soft texture. So it attach to the penis skin well to transmit the sensation. Literally forms part of the human skin. The large didn't work well for me so I converted back to regular as it works the best.

So theoretically if you are regular size should still use regular Okatomo although by measurement it's one size smaller. Again YMMV.

Having said that, best way is to try different size if you are not sure....before buying 10packs. 😀

They come in box of 3 only. Don't know why. And around $21 per box. Work out to be 7 pop per condom

If someone see it cheaper let me know

[holi_day]

They come in box of 3 only. Don't know why. And around $21 per box. Work out to be 7 pop per condom

If someone see it cheaper let me know

I buy online which was $23 a pack including shipping. I normally buy 3packs in one order. 001 is more expensive cos it's difficult to make. I only use one in one session so it's OK. If you are using 2 or 3 in a session its quite a bit of damage.

The other option is the Okatomo 002. It's around $29 for a pack of 12. I haven't tried it so can't comment how it feels, but thinking giving it a go.

[Warrabong]

This is a change in topic. Need a thread called condom review. I’m with the preppers though. BB is just too risky and could ruin your sex life as a punter and partner

[Poonhound69]

You'd have to be fucking nuts to do bareback with a hooker.

[didaswiwaw]

If coronavirus keeps getting worse, probably doing BBFS will be safer compare to DFK. Then wearing a mask will be the new protection. lol

[hayups22]

I stopped punting in Sydney about 7 years ago cos I got addicted to Thailand. Pretty soon I was BBing thai girls left and right, every day of my holiday. I got tested often and whenever I catch something I go to the clinic to get it fixed asap.

Now that we can't travel I have to focus back on the local scene. But I got used to BBing so much that wearing a condom has no feeling whatsoever. The girl would have to be a supermodel to make be cum.

I tried to build a relationship with a girl on her first day (I know she was fresh cos she washed my ass and feet lol). I asked for BBFS the 2nd visit but it was no dice.

So now it looks like I have to start over and spend money on research to find the good BBFS in Sydney. If I can build a good stable it will be overall cheaper than travelling overseas for it.

[mulanbaby]

So many diseases in Thailand :confused2:

[zucon]

I stopped punting in Sydney about 7 years ago cos I got addicted to Thailand. Pretty soon I was BBing thai girls left and right, every day of my holiday. I got tested often and whenever I catch something I go to the clinic to get it fixed asap.

Now that we can't travel I have to focus back on the local scene. But I got used to BBing so much that wearing a condom has no feeling whatsoever. The girl would have to be a supermodel to make be cum.

I tried to build a relationship with a girl on her first day (I know she was fresh cos she washed my ass and feet lol). I asked for BBFS the 2nd visit but it was no dice.

So now it looks like I have to start over and spend money on research to find the good BBFS in Sydney. If I can build a good stable it will be overall cheaper than travelling overseas for it.


You are ready to go for WWIII

[Poonhound69]

Personally I think people who advocate for or ask how to get bbfs should be banned. It risks the health of the wls and other punters and shouldn’t be condoned.

100% agree. I can't believe this is an open discussion on here. BBFS with a hooker? Seriously?

[kingqxxx]

100% agree. I can't believe this is an open discussion on here. BBFS with a hooker? Seriously?

I never did nor do I ever have intention of doing BB ever. Having said that, last time I do at checkup at the sydney STD clinic (next to nsw parliament) doctor said to me WL is the cleanest group across the population.

[Broncoshead]

100% agree. I can't believe this is an open discussion on here. BBFS with a hooker? Seriously?
Not dare taking risk

[Poonhound69]

I never did nor do I ever have intention of doing BB ever. Having said that, last time I do at checkup at the sydney STD clinic (next to nsw parliament) doctor said to me WL is the cleanest group across the population.

Did you ask the good Dr. how he came to that conclusion?

[Poonhound69]

Not dare taking risk

I do take risks when it comes to sexual activities but a BBBJ, DATY, DFK is as far as I'll go. You'd have to be fucking crazy to go BBFS with a hooker.

[cmk76]

So many diseases in Thailand :confused2:

There are diseases everywhere... You need to get out of your little head more... And not assume something that was written is the truth...

[Jireg]

I never did nor do I ever have intention of doing BB ever. Having said that, last time I do at checkup at the sydney STD clinic (next to nsw parliament) doctor said to me WL is the cleanest group across the population.

This is likely due to a majority who stay clean and cover up. I would imagine if you filtered that list to 'do you bb your customers frequently' the statistics might change. Please don't fool yourself into a false sense of hope that since the majority cover up, the one's who always go bb magically gain some resistance.

[cuteguy]

I never did nor do I ever have intention of doing BB ever. Having said that, last time I do at checkup at the sydney STD clinic (next to nsw parliament) doctor said to me WL is the cleanest group across the population.

It depends on whether the doctor is referring to WLs that do standard service (condom for everything including BJ). We all know condoms won't give you 100% protection since the groin area is still exposed to infections like herpes or genital warts. If a WL wants to work in this profession for some time, she will need to check her customers properly for any signs of infection but some STI's don't display any symptoms. Moving on, how about backpackers? I read somewhere that backpackers were notorious for having STI's. I guess the doctor at Sydney Hospital probably had them in his/her mind and why he/she may have singled out WLs as being the cleanest group in our population. How about married couples?

[Happyman2018]

I think wat d doc mean
Is d wl do check up monthly
But normal girls probably don't even do check up or pamps
Thats y d doc say they r clean

[TheMaestro]

It depends on whether the doctor is referring to WLs that do standard service (condom for everything including BJ). We all know condoms won't give you 100% protection since the groin area is still exposed to infections like herpes or genital warts. If a WL wants to work in this profession for some time, she will need to check her customers properly for any signs of infection but some STI's don't display any symptoms. Moving on, how about backpackers? I read somewhere that backpackers were notorious for having STI's. I guess the doctor at Sydney Hospital probably had them in his/her mind and why he/she may have singled out WLs as being the cleanest group in our population. How about married couples?

What about a married couple in which the wife is a part time WL to pay for her backpacking and the husband goes and fucks WL's and backpackers when the wife isn't home!

[mulanbaby]

Most of us do regular checks
Then we go eat, shopping and chat after hahaha
Bcoz very hard to organise meetup
Doctor day is girls meeting day :miao:

[kingqxxx]

What about a married couple in which the wife is a part time WL to pay for her backpacking and the husband goes and fucks WL's and backpackers when the wife isn't home!

That's my take of it too. WL are sex health conscious since it's there livelihood at stake here. No work no income.

I don't know the percentage. There are always desperate WL who will do BB for a number of reasons, but in the scheme of things they make up a tiny weeny fraction of the WL population.

Echoing meatro comment, most young people probably more carefree as far as their sexual experience is concern.

[TangoEcho]

Most of us do regular checks
Then we go eat, shopping and chat after hahaha
Bcoz very hard to organise meetup
Doctor day is girls meeting day :miao:

Lol a bit like after work social activities then?

[Punting Monkey]

I've been punting for some 10 years.

I've barebacked 9 WLs.

I know it carries a lot of risk, but it makes no sense to treat them as diseased lepers. We punters also do a lot of getting around the block. And the chances are, not many of us get tested as much as the WLs do.

As a general rule, however, I probably wouldn't do it the first time with a WL. If the lady initiates taking it off first, or agrees to you taking it off (especially for extra money) on your first visit...that should seriously ring a lot of alarm bells. That means she does that to everyone.

But, if you've visited a girl multiple times, and a good bond builds up, after initially refusing to go bareback, if she so chooses, that means she takes an exception to you. At that point, you both realise it's just not enough with condom. You want to feel her with your skin and she does want to feel you too, not a rubber prong.

The only exception for me was when I was at a shop January this year. The girl came in towards the end of my shower, got undressed while I was drying myself. Then, came and DFK me straight away, then BBBJ. But, then, when she laid me onto the bed, I thought she had something in her hand, as girls do when putting the condom on with their mouth. I was not in a position to be able to see down there as we were 69ing, and as she turned around to mount me, she had pinned my chest down with her hands. And she slipped herself in. I was constantly checking to see if condom was on or not while she was grinding. But she had taken me all the way in while grinding, so I really couldn't see anything.

I knew it had to be bareback because it felt incredible. But, my head was in denial, thinking, "Surely, not?" It was only when she came off to lie down that I knew for sure we'd been barebacking the whole time. But, my dick was already wet. So, we carried on until she asked me to cum inside her, which I couldn't say no to.

The thing about barebacking with WL is though, I always ended up waiting 2~3 weeks afterwards (the period before HIV will show up on your system) and go get checked. And I wouldn't dare bareback anyone in the meantime. One thing for me to risk getting something from someone. I do not want to be an idiot carelessly spreading it around.

Maybe I've been playing a Russian roulette every time. So far, it's all been negative. And the chances are, WLs are more safer than a random hook up at a club or a bar.

But, the whole waiting 2~3 weeks and being all nervous in front of the GP until you're given the "negative" result, isn't something that I would recommend to anyone. Because, sooner or later, our number will run out. And if the news is "positive"...well, then, things will get very complicated. I've reckless in the past and was caught off guard in January. But, I probably wouldn't jump the gun at every opportunity, nor force the issue. If it happens naturally after multiple visits with the same girl, I wouldn't say no. But, I wouldn't even bring it up anymore.

[Niceguy11]

Personally I think people who advocate for or ask how to get bbfs should be banned. It risks the health of the wls and other punters and shouldn’t be condoned.

Agree with you 100%. I have heard horror stories from punters asking WL's for bareback and the WL says no. In these situations, most of them take off the condom when changing to doggy. Some can tell they have taken the condom off but some dont and end up fucking the WL bareback. You can usually tell which punters they are, usually the ones who are like "lets go fuck some sluts tonight" type of punter. Also the punters that treat the girls like shit as well.

[hayups22]

Did you ask the good Dr. how he came to that conclusion?

Because hookers get checked regularly, whereas a girl you pick up in a night club might never get checked.
I knew a guy who is a stud - he picks up girls at the club every weekend. He often gets wierd rashes.

Me personally I've been BBing alot in thailand and haven't caught anything for the past 4 years. I narrowed by circle to girls that take care of themselves and that I could trust. If it took me alot of effort to BB her then I know she takes care of herself.
Also if I knew she had a thai bf than she was definitely on the pill lol.

[hayups22]

Personally I think people who advocate for or ask how to get bbfs should be banned. It risks the health of the wls and other punters and shouldn’t be condoned.

BBFS is gonna happen, we can't stick our heads in the sand and just hope it goes away. Nowadays young people (20-somethings) are barebacking alot because they grew up in an era of easily accessible solutions to STDs, so they are not terrified like we were growing up. Times have changed.

When I started travelling more I realised that most of the world does not use condoms when having sex, and people aren't dropping dead left and right.

[Happyman2018]

Because hookers get checked regularly, whereas a girl you pick up in a night club might never get checked.
I knew a guy who is a stud - he picks up girls at the club every weekend. He often gets wierd rashes.

Me personally I've been BBing alot in thailand and haven't caught anything for the past 4 years. I narrowed by circle to girls that take care of themselves and that I could trust. If it took me alot of effort to BB her then I know she takes care of herself.
Also if I knew she had a thai bf than she was definitely on the pill lol.

I agree on the regular check for ml of wl in Sydney as i don't know about other state.
But Thailand, u sure its save serious because they are poor country the girls willing to do anything for cash..
So any people who can pay they will give them anything they want
N do they regular check, that's a question mark.
Again like u said having sex with a random girls on a street or a club is definitely more dangerous having sex at brothel for bb.
Because would u go n ask them have u done a health check, I can guarantee 90% probably don't even know they need 2

[cmk76]

I agree on the regular check for ml of wl in Sydney as i don't know about other state.
But Thailand, u sure its save serious because they are poor country the girls willing to do anything for cash..
So any people who can pay they will give them anything they want
N do they regular check, that's a question mark.
Again like u said having sex with a random girls on a street or a club is definitely more dangerous having sex at brothel for bb.
Because would u go n ask them have u done a health check, I can guarantee 90% probably don't even know they need 2

Another one with his head in the sand. Is Thailand really a poor country? You lot need to get out more... I concur with hayups account because I can relate to it... These are my accounts only from the experiences that I've had...

Ok, BBFS is everywhere... Diseases are everywhere... In poor countries, and surprise, surprise... in rich countries as well! I know, shocking isn't it? Who would have thought, right?!!

I caught my first dose of chlamydia from barebacking an English ML, who was a party girl from an establishment on Elizabeth St... At the same time, I was also barebacking a very popular Korean WL in a famous Newtown shop, catered mainly for Asian clientele only at the time...

Both shops were not cheap and were at the higher end of tier pricing... Just for the record, I have never asked for it, forced the girl for it, or even throw more tips for it...

That was a very long time ago, and I admit, it was risky... Plus, I was young and foolish... And no, both providers weren't desperate or needed money at the time... We clicked, got really horny... And it just happened...

The two ex gfs that I have been with from a poor country called Thailand never questioned my sexual history when we got together... We had unprotected sex from day one... We assumed that we were both healthy, and not seeing other people at the same time... Again, it just happened and we never questioned it...

I have also dated a Caucasian WL for under a year, and she would NEVER let me bareback her... Even when she was the only sexual partner I have had at the time...

Anyone can catch diseases easily from anyone that you meet, sex provider or not. That is the reality...

I hope this dispels some of the speculative rumours you lot are conjuring up in your little head... Personally, I don't encourage it, nor do I condemn it... It is a choice that the individual makes when he or she is about to engage in any form of unprotected sex...

cmk

[moving4ward]

Another one with his head in the sand. Is Thailand really a poor country? You lot need to get out more... I concur with hayups account because I can relate to it... These are my accounts only from the experiences that I've had...

Ok, BBFS is everywhere... Diseases are everywhere... In poor countries, and surprise, surprise... in rich countries as well! I know, shocking isn't it? Who would have thought, right?!!

I caught my first dose of chlamydia from barebacking an English ML, who was a party girl from an establishment on Elizabeth St... At the same time, I was also barebacking a very popular Korean WL in a famous Newtown shop, catered mainly for Asian clientele only at the time...

Both shops were not cheap and were at the higher end of tier pricing... Just for the record, I have never asked for it, forced the girl for it, or even throw more tips for it...

That was a very long time ago, and I admit, it was risky... Plus, I was young and foolish... And no, both providers weren't desperate or needed money at the time... We clicked, got really horny... And it just happened...

The two ex gfs that I have been with from a poor country called Thailand never questioned my sexual history when we got together... We had unprotected sex from day one... We assumed that we were both healthy, and not seeing other people at the same time... Again, it just happened and we never questioned it...

I have also dated a Caucasian WL for under a year, and she would NEVER let me bareback her... Even when she was the only sexual partner I have had at the time...

Anyone can catch diseases easily from anyone that you meet, sex provider or not. That is the reality...

I hope this dispels some of the speculative rumours you lot are conjuring up in your little head... Personally, I don't encourage it, nor do I condemn it... It is a choice that the individual makes when he or she is about to engage in any form of unprotected sex...

cmk

Hay man long time no see, some heavy stuff there....

When we start punting from day one, we admit that we are taking a risk already.

Funny most here only talk about the risk of disease but no one talk about the possible life and financial damage here.

[hayups22]

I’m not talking about unprotected sex between any civilians. I’m talking about how letting people talk about where to get unprotected sex from a wl actively condones the practice and makes it more acceptable and more likely to happen in shops and puts other wls and punters at risk.
Just saying that people are going to do it anyway is putting your head in the sand.

The most potent STD you can contract today is a strain of super gonorrhea that specifically lives in the throat - which means you can catch it by getting BBBJ. Does this mean you will always do CBJ from now on?
Bagging up won't protect you from herpes, so you're always putting yourself at lifelong risk with any intimate contact.
So with that said we are always putting ourselves in some form of risk. Different punters can tolerate different levels of risk.

If you always bag up then you'll always have peace of mind. If you know which WLs provide BBFS and avoid them you'll be even safer. Information is power. Censorship is abuse of power.

[lucky59]

My regular ML tells me of a punter who broke down crying when she wouldn’t agree to BBFS. Admittedly she may have been doing quite a bit of teasing up to then. Apparently he hasn’t been back:(

[Blayr]

I'm seeing a pattern here, mostly korean girls, second chinese and rarely thai. I'm not surprised if it's chinese, in terms of the population of WLs most joints from high to low end are just littered with them but korean on the other hand are outnumbered at least 3 to 1. I wonder if it's a cultural thing, very curious🤔🤔🤔.
Unlesss..... you guys were actually fucking the same korean girl.

[buddy2168]

Irish Gabby tried to BBFS me when she first started working at MAC and it was the first time I'd seen her. She just went on top and asked me if she could sit on it. Silly me said yes. I didn't have a gf during that time, so luckily I didn't last long. Was not worth the headache and paranoia.

Fast forward 1.5 years and went to see her at Pyrmont and she wanted to bareback again.and told me "we had done it before" After 2 thrusts I came to my senses and told her no im sorry I can't do this.

Now, surely im not some "special guy" that gets this from her. Im curious how many other guys she's done this to. I havent seen her since and don't intend to, feels like a set up.

[Aznluv1909]

Just simply not worth the risk especially if you've got a partner, how are you possible going to explain yourself?

[Kiryu0]

Just simply not worth the risk especially if you've got a partner, how are you possible going to explain yourself?

Just say you got it from accidentally rubbing your dick on the public toilet seat.

[TheMaestro]

Just say you got it from accidentally rubbing your dick on the public toilet seat.

That is gold bro Kiryu0!!!

[holi_day]

Go home, acting angry, throw the test result at your partber's face and start yelling "I trusted you! but what have you done to me...!?"

She will probably collapse crying and start to confess her affairs with her colleague, your best friend, the plumber, the pizza delivery guy... and says she has no idea who passed this to her and beg you to forgive her...

[cuteguy]

Just say you got it from accidentally rubbing your dick on the public toilet seat.

As if she is going to accept this.

Many people consider toilet seats to be public enemy No. 1 - the playground for organisms responsible for STDs like chlamydia or gonorrhea. But before you panic, the toilet seat is not a common vehicle for transmitting infections to humans. Many disease causing organisms can survive for only a short time on the surface of the seat, and for an infection to occur, the germs would have to be transferred from the toilet seat to your urethral or genital tract, or through a cut or sore on the buttocks or thighs, which is possible but very unlikely.

It's not possible for a person to acquire an STD on the toilet seat unless they were actually having sex on the toilet seat! :shout:

[xboyx]

Go home, acting angry, throw the test result at your partber's face and start yelling "I trusted you! but what have you done to me...!?"

She will probably collapse crying and start to confess her affairs with her colleague, your best friend, the plumber, the pizza delivery guy... and says she has no idea who passed this to her and begging you to forgive her...

oh my lord, it works. THANK YOU!

[AsiaAddict]

oh my lord, it works. THANK YOU!

Too funnny bro

Was it the plumber, pizza guy, or your best mate?

[Sneaky castro]

I love pussy slides,sometimes it feels like it might slip in. So far I've been able to stop myself getting to excited.

[omguser]

In my 10-years or so of punting, I am ashamed to admit that it has happened twice for me. On both occasions, I was drunk - but it does not excuse the bareback.

My first encounter happened when I was 22-years old, and I remember she was teasing me and playing with my LB (little bro) and then randomly just puts it in without a condom. I was drunk, young, stupid - and I went ahead with it. When I woke up the next day, and remembered the incident - I was scared out of my mind. Waited a month - got tested. Waited another month - got tested. Everything negative - kept getting tested, kept coming back negative. Finally after eight months, went back to punting.

My second encounter happened rather recently. Somewhat similar story again, went to a massage parlour in Sydney, and during a pussy slide - she decided to just grab my LB and insert it in her without a condom. I was shocked, surprised - but stupid enough to just continue. My LB was thinking: "already too late, just enjoy and finish - worry tomorrow". Luckily, nothing came of it - everything negative. I was lucky enough to have dodged yet another bullet.

Honestly, as nice as raw experience is - it is not worth the stress, headache, and a million other things that come with it.

[cuteguy]

In my 10-years or so of punting, I am ashamed to admit that it has happened twice for me. On both occasions, I was drunk - but it does not excuse the bareback.

My first encounter happened when I was 22-years old, and I remember she was teasing me and playing with my LB (little bro) and then randomly just puts it in without a condom. I was drunk, young, stupid - and I went ahead with it. When I woke up the next day, and remembered the incident - I was scared out of my mind. Waited a month - got tested. Waited another month - got tested. Everything negative - kept getting tested, kept coming back negative. Finally after eight months, went back to punting.

My second encounter happened rather recently. Somewhat similar story again, went to a massage parlour in Sydney, and during a pussy slide - she decided to just grab my LB and insert it in her without a condom. I was shocked, surprised - but stupid enough to just continue. My LB was thinking: "already too late, just enjoy and finish - worry tomorrow". Luckily, nothing came of it - everything negative. I was lucky enough to have dodged yet another bullet.

Honestly, as nice as raw experience is - it is not worth the stress, headache, and a million other things that come with it.

The ML took advantage of you mate. I hope you didn't come inside of her. :surprise:

[omguser]

The ML took advantage of you mate. I hope you didn't come inside of her. :surprise:

I generally pull out and finish elsewhere, even with a condom. Just as an extra safety precaution. But funny enough, I have had a few conversations where WL/ML would say something like: "You give me baby". Every single time, after the initial shock, I just laugh.

Context: I had a vasectomy when I turned 21, and it is still shooting blanks after 10 years.

[iamnotasexrobot]

Around 15 years ago I went through Thailand on my way here and picked up this superhot chick in a bar. Only time I've ever barebacked and it was with a Thai hooker. That's really smart and I was really lucky.

[spir55]

I did do BBFS with a young japanese ML many years ago. she was new to the industry. I am lucky to not catch any std and will not do it again.

[liminal]

I like Sunday repentants... keep em coming

[drunk-as-a-punk]

I have had the BB offer only once, took that as a red flag so opted for the least risky option.

[quagmire]

I go BBFS with all of my regulars, currently 5 girls in 2 shops. Never asked for it, they all just decided I was OK and that was it.

4 of them I also see in their homes, 3 of them go BB anal as well, my main squeeze sometimes brings in another girl and whoever it is gets the same treatment.

None of this was instigated by me, I've actually resisted on occasion but I just cant say no.

[punter185]

I go BBFS with all of my regulars, currently 5 girls in 2 shops. Never asked for it, they all just decided I was OK and that was it.

4 of them I also see in their homes, 3 of them go BB anal as well, my main squeeze sometimes brings in another girl and whoever it is gets the same treatment.

None of this was instigated by me, I've actually resisted on occasion but I just cant say no.

What nationality are the 4 you see at their homes? I heard Caucasian WL don’t tend to deal with client outside the shop and take less risk then Asian WL.

Do the ladies comfortable handing out their number to regular clients?

[Dettol]

None of this was instigated by me, I've actually resisted on occasion but I just cant say no.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. These women always take advantage of us and we are so helpless... if only we are not such irresistible to them that they threw themselves (and their friends) so willingly. Those fellas desperately looking for BBFS just don’t know how lucky they are.

[Dettol]

What nationality are the 4 you see at their homes? I heard Caucasian WL don’t tend to deal with client outside the shop and take less risk then Asian WL.

Do the ladies comfortable handing out their number to regular clients?

Some WL’s give out their numbers and even take bookings directly i.e you message them and then they let the mamasan/papasan knows. That way they can also fill in their appointments for the day with their preferred customers. Had one occasion where there was confusion and the WL I had messaged beforehand was double-booked. She felt bad about the mix-up and asked me to meet her at the apt instead. Although I never asked directly, I can tell she sees other customers at her apt too, in addition to the shop.

As far as your question, it goes without saying that they’d have to trust you and so repeat visits and chemistry gives you better chance. I’ve had a rare one or two voluntarily gave theirs in the first visit but you’d have to assume she does it for a lot of guys.

[jk_268]

What bevis said.. not worth the risk

Well after saying this, have to say that I've now done it.

It was with an ML on her second day working, following a session on her first day which was on from the start. The first time just seemed to happen, we both got caught up in the moment. She only worked in the industry about 4 weeks, it's 8+ weeks on and all clear on the health front. We've hung out outside the shop but not necessarily for sex

Would I do it again though? Unlikely, and still a definite no for anyone with more experience than the above..

[random punter64]

Well after saying this, have to say that I've now done it.

Seeing 3 wl in shops I have partake in bb.Also done bb anal as well. So far no probs but bb feels good

[cuteguy]

I go BBFS with all of my regulars, currently 5 girls in 2 shops. Never asked for it, they all just decided I was OK and that was it.

4 of them I also see in their homes, 3 of them go BB anal as well, my main squeeze sometimes brings in another girl and whoever it is gets the same treatment.

None of this was instigated by me, I've actually resisted on occasion but I just cant say no.

Have you ever asked yourself whether the 5 girls have other regulars that do BBFS with them and if so, the potential risks?:surprise:

[TheMaestro]

I get offered it too often. It is scary.

[cuteguy]

Yeah, man. It’s scary. Never know, the girls are healthy or not.
And guess what, I was told by WL before that shops say, all the WL regularly check their health, but she said, no, never.
No health check at all and keep working.
Without a condom, it’s too risky.

Girls get regularly checked? Yeah right. In some shops, it's up to the girl to get tested with no request from the shops to confirm that they had the tests and were found negative. I recall some girls (in particular girls on visas) having no idea where to get tested or to have the appropriate injections (for Hepatitis or HPV cervical cancer) before working.

[Raybo]

Yeah, man.
Shop says, girls get regularly checked, but they don’t.

Rubbish. Girls on their own time get checked regularly.

[Yougottabe]

When I first started punting back around 2004 I would say a huge number of girls weren’t tested especially from Asian shops as many were here illegally. The owners didn’t care. Previous owners of shops still operating & a notorious place on Crown St Surry Hills (no longer operating) were regularly raided among others. You could tell on the girls faces in the introduction they didn’t want to be there & were here probably on false visas. They definitely weren’t getting tested.
Older punters will no doubt say it was worse in the 80’s & 90’s.

Caucasian shops have been having girls tested for years & I dare say it’s the same in Asian shops. Well at least I hope it is.

[quagmire]

All Chinese, I was seeing an Aussie girl a few years back but that got out of control and I reluctantly had to put an end to it.

[quagmire]

Have you ever asked yourself whether the 5 girls have other regulars that do BBFS with them and if so, the potential risks?:surprise:

Yep, all the time, but I just get fucked up and go for it.

[quagmire]

What nationality are the 4 you see at their homes? I heard Caucasian WL don’t tend to deal with client outside the shop and take less risk then Asian WL.

Do the ladies comfortable handing out their number to regular clients?

I have never asked any for their numbers, they always ask me 1st and then after they contact me I automatically have it. I don't pursue them, its always the girl who instigates the contact and then offers to see me privately at some point. for most of them its just another transaction I think, but the girl I see the most refuses to take my money when I'm at her place so I still book her occasionally in the shop.

[quagmire]

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. These women always take advantage of us and we are so helpless... if only we are not such irresistible to them that they threw themselves (and their friends) so willingly. Those fellas desperately looking for BBFS just don’t know how lucky they are.

Yeah good one smart arse, I don't look for it and have never asked. Maybe I have a kind face or something, or maybe its because I'm not a fat, hairy, sweaty, warthog? Maybe its because I actually know my way around a woman and it doesn't involve Pounding them or anything like that.

[Obo2192]

Thought I'd share my experience again as I've recalled several more encounters with some being from this year.

2018 - Burwood - Randomly added by an early 20s Vietnamese girl. Started chatting for a bit, then she asked me if I liked sex of course I replied yes. Hoping she was keen for a hookup, instead she then offered $150 for 2 hours FS and she only lived 10-minute walk from me. Sent me a few pictures which were her in photo, but slimmer. In person she was a little chubby, but she still looked cute. Short, about 5"4 but definitely her in photo. She was living in what seemed like a makeshift room beside the kitchen. As I walked inside, her Chinese roommates who were all guys were playing board games in the lounge room. We did not acknowledge each other, just walked in. Could still hear them quite clearly as they got on with their game. No doubt they knew what we were doing or could hear us. Room was quite simple, she had makeup on her desk and a couple toys. She took off her black night dress which revealed no underwear. Mostly shaved with a slight tuft of hair. To my disappointment she didn't do BJ. Didn't like the idea of going down on any guy. She preferred sex over DATY, which I did attempt but not for long as she had no interest. She did make up for it though. She liked it rough, so for the first round with doggy, missionary followed by 69 and there was quite a bit of hair pulling and choking. 2nd round was more of them same, she still was not keen of DATY or BJ.
She loved the choking and hair pulling though. We took a break and had a chat. She was doing this for a short time before she headed off to Dubai since her Visa was expiring soon. Round 3, I was still hard but having trouble finishing since I was losing any sensation. She was understanding saying it was ok if I couldn't finish a 3rd but suggested you can remove condom if it helps. I did not hesitate and ripped the dom right off. Pumped away for a couple more minutes, she was still very tight and came on her belly.

No shower just dressed. She put on a long T-shirt with no underwear and walked me out. Couple weeks later she messaged me again asking if I wanted to come see her before she flew out the next day. Unfortunately, I had a cold and did not have the strength to make it over.

Early 2020 - Saw a Chinese milf in Ashfield at a private apartment which she shared with another working lady. Had to wait an hour in the carpark since she had to do some last-minute grocery shopping promising to give good service upon return. Upon entering, I realised that this is the exact same apartment I had been to in the past visiting another private WL in 2015. Seems it gets rented out and passed onto anyone else that might use it. Her body looked exactly like the picutures. Face was quite pleasant, only downside was a bit of a belly when the dress was off. Amazing tits, nice handful. Started off with average BBBJ and body licking. I closed my eyes embracing her foreplay as she kissed my neck and ears. This is where the surprise was, she started to grind my cock on her bare pussy. I didn't think much of it and let her continue, she then slipped me in. The sudden warmth of her and gentle touch excited me. Came twice insider of her, this was made more excited knowing her friend who is another WL was several meters over in the kitchen. The bedroom we had was only covered by curtains with no walls connecting to the kitchen. So, she heard everything. Finished up and showered with her. Haven't gone back to see her since she no longer works there.

Mid 2020, I tried contacting the same Chinese milf from Ashfield. However, was on "holiday" and referred me to her friend. Photos of her friend were ok. Again, one of those photos that are of them, but say 10-15 years ago. Rocked up to an older style flat in Burwood. This is early hours of the morning at 7AM, so I was keen to fuck. Now, she isn't much of a looker. More weight than the girl I saw at Ashfield. With a face that might remind you of the Chinese aunties at Tong Li or Chinese markets at the counter. Body was a bit stocky, but I was still keen. Lightly DATY and she smelt/tasted clean below then some BBBJ. This time around, I was the one who instigated the cock rubbing on her bare pussy, I did expect her to put a condom on me since there was on the side of the bed with some tissues.
I kept this on for about 10 minutes teasing her and pushing the tip of my cock ever so slightly in. She couldn't take it and said no condom ok. No hesitation and I slipped right in. Not as tight as her friend was. Came very easily, every time she would. She'd cover her mouth with one hand and the other grabbing my arse while locking me in with her legs. Came twice in her, showered and left.

I visited her once more, but that was the last time. Our last session was early in the morning as well. What changed was her fanny stank, I could barely put up with it, but trooped on to get my shot in. Doggy immediately, nothing else. Pumped away, she came twice, and I shot my load.

Couple months later, I tried to contact the first milf in Ashfield I saw earlier in the year. Again, still on holiday. So instead suggested I see another friend who was working early in the AM. She was better looking of the two previous milfs, but not skinny. Closer to late 30s, had long red dress on with no underwear. I was excited, quickly showered and onto the bed with BBBJ. She then started cock grinding, several times she asked me if I wanted to fuck. I said not yet and continued with the cocking grinding. She was getting wet which got me even more excited. She then asked me you want no condom fuck. I immediately said yes, she lubed up and inside I was. Tighter than her "friends" I had fucked so far, but it was my shortest session of the 3. Didn't take long and I popped. Both cleaned up and showered. Haven't seen her since.

I've been tested recently and all clear. Again, not recommendations. Just my experiences so far.

[punter185]

I’ve noticed the bareback experience stories are majority from non Caucasian WL. They might be illegal in the country or don’t have the education about sexual health while the easy money too tempting. Each to their own but the risk in catching STI is not worth it.

[Dettol]

I’ve noticed the bareback experience stories are majority from non Caucasian WL. They might be illegal in the country or don’t have the education about sexual health while the easy money too tempting. Each to their own but the risk in catching STI is not worth it.

Is it really though? Look at Cauc punters here like Brothelcreeper and others like him.

Does that say anything about the sex education here in Aus?

[local]

Is it really though? Look at Cauc punters here like Brothelcreeper and others like him.

Does that say anything about the sex education here in Aus?

Funny Brothelcreeper hasn't been seen her for a while... maybe he caught something (or he got caught). ??

[GoldfishMan]

Is it really though? Look at Cauc punters here like Brothelcreeper and others like him.

Does that say anything about the sex education here in Aus?
Maybe the problem here is not them lacking in sex ed, but us lacking in common sense / empathy.
A girl does BBBJ and even CIM, what do you think is HER risk of catching something compared to doing BBFS? It's arguable that BBBJ / CIM carries even more risk for the girl because she is more likely to have cuts and abrasions inside her mouth than pussy. She might put a deep fried prawn with shell into her mouth and get cuts in there, but not her pussy. Same applies to brushing teeth which can result in bleeding gums or even mouth; she don't brush her pussy does she?
Look around, almost all Asian WLs do at least BBBJ, that's the standard service here. If they don't do it, they are almost guaranteed to fail in this industry.
Now have a think about what is going through the WLs head. If she has enough common sense, she'll realise that what she is being forced to conform with (BBBJ minimum) is actually the same or higher risk to her as BBFS. So it'll boil down to this: if she can get more out of a customer by doing BBFS, the only reasons she will not do it is either she's not on contraceptives or she genuinely does not want to get her customer infected.
These girls know where they stand, they're not stupid.

[manjuice333]

Thought I should share my recent experience. I’ve always been a fairly safe guy only rarely have I even engaged in BBBJ.

I went to a massage shop that I know offers FS as well.

Selected Jap girl and she starts pussy sliding on pt2. Told me I had a good body (I do go gym regularly). She then flipped over to 69 position but with her ass over my cock instead of mouth and was allowing me to rub it all over and almost penetrate. Changed to me standing on side of table and I’m sliding my cock up and down her pussy and she doesn’t mention condom at all, she is quite wet and is inviting me inside, so I penetrate no condom. I fucked her bareback until I came, pulling out as she asked me to not cum inside.

After this I’m like fuck what have I done? I start quizzing her if she does this with others, she says no. She gets tested, last was a month ago and all clear so I’m a bit more relieved.

Anyway, kept thinking about it as the shop is close to my work and I went back for seconds. I know I shouldn’t but the temptation is too much.

Though she did say to me as I was planning to see her again next time we should use a condom. Now I’ve opened a Pandora’s box. I’m tempted to go back and see her and try my luck again but also I do have a mild level of anxiety about the risks.

For the record, I would never even go to see a lady who was advertising bareback services or those Chinese ones in the lineup who offer it out of desperation. I wouldn’t even bang them with a rubber.

I guess why I did it this time is that I thought this girl was being honest that she doesn’t do this with others and that she was genuinely into me enough to do it.

Also I quizzed her about where she gets tested and it’s the same clinic I go to so I know she’s getting regular checkups. Anyway, I know none of this guarantees my safety but it at least raises the probability right? At least that’s how I console myself.

And sorry, not giving up the name of the girl or shop even in a PM as I’d feel bad other guys rocking up trying to get it out of her.

[GoldfishMan]

Thought I should share my recent experience. I’ve always been a fairly safe guy only rarely have I even engaged in BBBJ.

I went to a massage shop that I know offers FS as well.

Selected Jap girl and she starts pussy sliding on pt2. Told me I had a good body (I do go gym regularly). She then flipped over to 69 position but with her ass over my cock instead of mouth and was allowing me to rub it all over and almost penetrate. Changed to me standing on side of table and I’m sliding my cock up and down her pussy and she doesn’t mention condom at all, she is quite wet and is inviting me inside, so I penetrate no condom. I fucked her bareback until I came, pulling out as she asked me to not cum inside.

After this I’m like fuck what have I done? I start quizzing her if she does this with others, she says no. She gets tested, last was a month ago and all clear so I’m a bit more relieved.

Anyway, kept thinking about it as the shop is close to my work and I went back for seconds. I know I shouldn’t but the temptation is too much.

Though she did say to me as I was planning to see her again next time we should use a condom. Now I’ve opened a Pandora’s box. I’m tempted to go back and see her and try my luck again but also I do have a mild level of anxiety about the risks.

For the record, I would never even go to see a lady who was advertising bareback services or those Chinese ones in the lineup who offer it out of desperation. I wouldn’t even bang them with a rubber.

I guess why I did it this time is that I thought this girl was being honest that she doesn’t do this with others and that she was genuinely into me enough to do it.

Also I quizzed her about where she gets tested and it’s the same clinic I go to so I know she’s getting regular checkups. Anyway, I know none of this guarantees my safety but it at least raises the probability right? At least that’s how I console myself.

And sorry, not giving up the name of the girl or shop even in a PM as I’d feel bad other guys rocking up trying to get it out of her.
69 with her pussy at your dick... That's called reverse cowgirl, mate.
You don't need to try to justify why you did it... We all know how hard it is to resist this temptation.

[manjuice333]

69 with her pussy at your dick... That's called reverse cowgirl, mate.
You don't need to try to justify why you did it... We all know how hard it is to resist this temptation.

lol, yes right you are I should have known that one!

I think I’m trying to rationalise it to myself.. tomorrow is going to be a massive temptation for me but maybe she doesn’t want to bareback with me anymore as she said.

She told me she’s also got a boyfriend who doesn’t know what she does for work, poor guy..

[Riff888]

"She told me she’s also got a boyfriend who doesn’t know what she does for work, poor guy.."

This is very common it seems.

I know a few couples in this situation and the guy has no clue or thinks she just does massage with HJ.

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[bigfatkilo]

Justcy because they do pussy slide doesn't mean bbfs is on the table.

[Vader]

"She told me she’s also got a boyfriend who doesn’t know what she does for work, poor guy.."

This is very common it seems.

I know a few couples in this situation and the guy has no clue or thinks she just does massage with HJ.

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But anyone with wife or girlfriend has no idea what they get up to as well

[Riff888]

But anyone with wife or girlfriend has no idea what they get up to as wellTrue but I would be so paranoid if my wife was a ML.

Just more opportunities to meet meet men plus being intimate.

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[aussiegaigin]

.

Also I quizzed her about where she gets tested and it’s the same clinic I go to so I know she’s getting regular checkups. Anyway, I know none of this guarantees my safety but it at least raises the probability right? At least that’s how I console myself.

So how do you know she is getting regular check ups? How often?

She might have been tested yesterday, but picked up something from this morning's trick.

The risk is always there.

[Vader]

So how do you know she is getting regular check ups? How often?

She might have been tested yesterday, but picked up something from this morning's trick.

The risk is always there.

Totally correct. Everyone is only clean at the time they are tested. Could even be infection between sample and result

[manjuice333]

So how do you know she is getting regular check ups? How often?

She might have been tested yesterday, but picked up something from this morning's trick.

The risk is always there.

She told me she got tested a month ago and was going to go again soon.

I really don't think she is doing bareback with other dudes on the regular, and I have 3 lines of evidence to support me:

- this is usually not that common, especially for young good looking girls who are not desperate and don't need to resort to this.

- I've seen at least 7 reviews of this girl on a couple of forums, and no mention of such thing, whilst many mentions of condom use.

- She told me she doesn't do this and she seemed sincere, I have no reason to disbelieve this. Also she wanted to use a condom next time we meet, which might be tomorrow..!

I'm still not saying there is no risk in spite of all this.

[bigfatkilo]

Had to laugh at reason 2. Only a complete moron with implicate a wl , when it's in their interest to keep it quiet for themselves. In other words, that's a pretty self serving reason.

Generally speaking, bbfs can happen. Usually it's for a green coloured tip, but sometimes it's for other reasons. They might actually like it themselves, are completely rebellious, aren't completely informed or aware of the risks, actually are attracted to the guy, have serious underlying issues, and/or think it will get them repeat customers and differentiate them from the market.

Punters might get away with it. You might not. Reportable stds are still relatively low in Aus.

What I've observed and heard however, if you're doing bbfs and occasionally this includes cip, and u have a GF or wife, shit me, if you give her something and it causes her infertility or something serious, then that's on you. Similarly, sitting at a clinic waiting for results, can be pretty nerve racking. It's all fun and games until reality hits and something actually happens. And shit does happen. Stastics require someone to be affected at some point.

Each to their own, but I also would suggest, no matter the reasons a punter has, if she's doing it with you, she has, is or will do it with another guy. And a guy who is prepared to do it with one, does it with others. That's how shit spreads.

Good luck and touch wood and remember, play with fire, good chance at some point you'll get burnt.



She told me she got tested a month ago and was going to go again soon.

I really don't think she is doing bareback with other dudes on the regular, and I have 3 lines of evidence to support me:

- this is usually not that common, especially for young good looking girls who are not desperate and don't need to resort to this.

- I've seen at least 7 reviews of this girl on a couple of forums, and no mention of such thing, whilst many mentions of condom use.

- She told me she doesn't do this and she seemed sincere, I have no reason to disbelieve this. Also she wanted to use a condom next time we meet, which might be tomorrow..!

I'm still not saying there is no risk in spite of all this.

[local]

Generally speaking, bbfs can happen. Usually it's for a green coloured tip

It really all comes down to money !!

For a lot, it just so that they can get fake $2000 handbag, to show off.

I always laugh at the chinese spelling of PRADA (RPADA)

[quagmire]

She told me she got tested a month ago and was going to go again soon.

I really don't think she is doing bareback with other dudes on the regular, and I have 3 lines of evidence to support me:

- this is usually not that common, especially for young good looking girls who are not desperate and don't need to resort to this.

- I've seen at least 7 reviews of this girl on a couple of forums, and no mention of such thing, whilst many mentions of condom use.

- She told me she doesn't do this and she seemed sincere, I have no reason to disbelieve this. Also she wanted to use a condom next time we meet, which might be tomorrow..!

I'm still not saying there is no risk in spite of all this.

Brother I am feeling you here, I have barebacked so many now its fucking ridiculous. I have no doubt that at some point I'm going to catch something nasty but I've been doing it for too long now and am totally addicted.
You must remember that even though she says its not a regular thing it probably happens more often than you would be comfortable with.

I know the regulars I do BB with don't do it for everyone, but I'm not naive enough to think I'm the only one.

Don't be ni

[manjuice333]

Had to laugh at reason 2. Only a complete moron with implicate a wl , when it's in their interest to keep it quiet for themselves. In other words, that's a pretty self serving reason.

Generally speaking, bbfs can happen. Usually it's for a green coloured tip, but sometimes it's for other reasons. They might actually like it themselves, are completely rebellious, aren't completely informed or aware of the risks, actually are attracted to the guy, have serious underlying issues, and/or think it will get them repeat customers and differentiate them from the market.

Punters might get away with it. You might not. Reportable stds are still relatively low in Aus.

What I've observed and heard however, if you're doing bbfs and occasionally this includes cip, and u have a GF or wife, shit me, if you give her something and it causes her infertility or something serious, then that's on you. Similarly, sitting at a clinic waiting for results, can be pretty nerve racking. It's all fun and games until reality hits and something actually happens. And shit does happen. Stastics require someone to be affected at some point.

Each to their own, but I also would suggest, no matter the reasons a punter has, if she's doing it with you, she has, is or will do it with another guy. And a guy who is prepared to do it with one, does it with others. That's how shit spreads.

Good luck and touch wood and remember, play with fire, good chance at some point you'll get burnt.

Thanks mate.

Fair points, let’s call reason 2 ‘weak’ evidence shall we? lol. I’ve also never seen anyone discuss bbfs at this shop either.

I’m a fairly experienced punter been doing this for over 10 years and I’ve never been offered bareback apart from desperate old Chinese ladies in the lineups at seedy shops.

Younger, hotter girls don’t have the pressure to resort to this as they tend to get customers just on their looks.

I will say in my situation I had only verbally agreed to b2b tip and hadn’t coughed up any cash yet before I did the deed.

I asked her why she did it and she said she was horny.

[niva321]

You guys are insane to do BBFS with a ML/WL

[manjuice333]

You guys are insane to do BBFS with a ML/WL

Update gents:

Went back today to see her again, this time she wanted to use condom so looks like it was a once off. I think she even enjoyed the sex a bit more.

I enjoyed that she enjoyed it, but sure did feel nice without the rubber lulz.

Okay I swear I’ll never do this again! At least till I meet the next hot Jap that seems willing 😉

[Bangetsu]

Got offered bbfs at ginza, anyone else experienced this?

[niva321]

Got offered bbfs at ginza, anyone else experienced this?

Many people lol

[Kiryu0]

Got offered bbfs at ginza, anyone else experienced this?

I personally still find it hard to believe that GINZA GIRLS especially would offer BBFS. Coz isn't Ginza pretty much cream of the crop and they have pretty big market share, so those girls doing BBFS is hard to believe personally.

[tpol]

I've been offered many times from young ml. Never did it. Not even bbbj.

It just takes one time.

They mean they haven't bb from the point you asked.

Catch something that stays with you for life and you should explain it to your future partners.

Get tested

[Climax598]

Got offered bbfs at ginza, anyone else experienced this?
How much extra do you have to pay?

[Kiryu0]

How much extra do you have to pay?

I'ma assume they don't need to pay. Probably just want returning customers. Otherwise they probs don't get paid.

[Dettol]

There have been some girls at Ginza but at the same time they’ve also got some idiots who try to BBFS girls without their consent.

These asshats have their photos stuck on the wall.

[Climax598]

Man don't think with their head only think with their dick especially sex.

[Joe1956]

Been offered BBFS many times. So bloody tempting!!! And yup, I dipped the wick and instantly regretted it.
Luckily no repercussions. Not worth the high blood pressure while waiting for results.
Learn my lesson. Just doesn’t happen anymore. BBBJ hell yeh. Every time but that’s it

[tpol]

Been offered BBFS many times. So bloody tempting!!! And yup, I dipped the wick and instantly regretted it.
Luckily no repercussions. Not worth the high blood pressure while waiting for results.
Learn my lesson. Just doesn’t happen anymore. BBBJ hell yeh. Every time but that’s it

Go bb and then get some tingling or itchiness you then get a bit paranoid. Like covid, u should then abstain and get tested

[manjuice333]

An honest assessment of the bareback risks:

I think the biggest worry is herpes, especially if it’s obviously symptomatic.

HIV is extremely unlikely, and most others can be treated with antibiotics or other treatments.

You can get gono and chlamydia from BBBJ as well, just FYI.

[gannicus]

An honest assessment of the bareback risks:

I think the biggest worry is herpes, especially if it’s obviously symptomatic.

HIV is extremely unlikely, and most others can be treated with antibiotics or other treatments.

You can get gono and chlamydia from BBBJ as well, just FYI.

You can also get herpes with bbbj, actual most herpe cases are catched by mouth to genitle, and theoretically HIV aswell (I think there was only 1 confirmed case for HIV through bbbj)

[cuteguy]

You can also get herpes with bbbj, actual most herpe cases are catched by mouth to genitle, and theoretically HIV aswell (I think there was only 1 confirmed case for HIV through bbbj)

There are risks with all unsafe sex practices. Some guys believe having oral sex without a condom won't expose them to STIs. WRONG! Many fail to realise that having sex with a person who has many sexual partners can expose them to other STIs, serious illnesses such as HIV and even herpes which only requires skin to skin contact. Once you catch herpes, it's for life. Remember it guys. Play safe.

[bigfatkilo]

Pretty much all viruses aren't treatable with antibiotics..... They're viruses. Just highlighting your statement with these two things in the one sentence.

An observation, plenty of nadty diseases around, and you still don't want HIV.. it's not a death sentence, but it's like dialysis.. it has a big impact on your life.


An honest assessment of the bareback risks:

I think the biggest worry is herpes, especially if it’s obviously symptomatic.

HIV is extremely unlikely, and most others can be treated with antibiotics or other treatments.

You can get gono and chlamydia from BBBJ as well, just FYI.

[Joe1956]

Well you guys are probably right
But I have had probably 200-300+ bbbj worldwide and so far no problem
I’ve bbfs a few times and again escaped drama
Not saying it isn’t out there
But just saying that end of the day it’s a judgement call

[manjuice333]

Pretty much all viruses aren't treatable with antibiotics..... They're viruses. Just highlighting your statement with these two things in the one sentence.

An observation, plenty of nadty diseases around, and you still don't want HIV.. it's not a death sentence, but it's like dialysis.. it has a big impact on your life.

I was talking about syphilis, gono and chlamydia. These are treatable with antibiotics, some warts and others can be frozen off.

But yes, I wouldn't be too thrilled to catch HIV either! Just saying it's quite rare in hetero community.

[manjuice333]

You can also get herpes with bbbj, actual most herpe cases are catched by mouth to genitle, and theoretically HIV aswell (I think there was only 1 confirmed case for HIV through bbbj)

I read the sexual health doctors from medhelp.org quite heavily, great resource.

They all agree zero risk of HIV from bbbj and herpes from bbbj is a theoretical risk but very unlikely. Most mouth herpes is hsv1 and if you already have that very unlikely to get it again elsewhere. Genital herpes is usually hsv2.

Where did you hear most herpes cases are mouth to genital?

[quagmire]

There's no extra, it only happens when there is a connection with the girl and I never ask or try.
I was talking to one of them about it a couple of days ago, (just after we had been fucking and I CIP) and she told me that if a customer asks she always says no.
She reckons she only does it with a few people and I am the only one she allows to CIP. I know you all probably think I'm a fool but it sounded true and I'm a skeptical bastard.

[cuteguy]

There's no extra, it only happens when there is a connection with the girl and I never ask or try.
I was talking to one of them about it a couple of days ago, (just after we had been fucking and I CIP) and she told me that if a customer asks she always says no.
She reckons she only does it with a few people and I am the only one she allows to CIP. I know you all probably think I'm a fool but it sounded true and I'm a skeptical bastard.

These days not everyone tells the truth. Girls will say what may make you feel happy and special but they are in this industry to flirt, satisfy and please you for money. If you want to play Russian roulette that's your choice. However, if you find out later that it was not all the truth then you only have yourself to blame for believing it. The best thing is to go in, have your fun, don't be rough or rude towards a girl and play safe. :cool2:

[kingmike]

Too risky bro don't do it. Just date and find a girl to do that with. But if you must i hear bareback is petty common in Japan, they have Skin On and Skiff Off shops. Also yeah Thai land and China but probably riskier.

Just don't do it yeah.

[gunboundray]

I've done it before and CIP- literally she told me she didnt take the pill and the panic wasnt worth it until she said 'dont worry about it, i'll sort it out'.

Then somehow along the time of punting my mate confessed he goes and tells me that he doesn't use condoms- I asked where and it just so happens to be that same place with the same girl (she was the only Korean that works there).

After that I never saw her again. not sure what i was more disappointed about though- my mate doing the same (he aint very good looking) or the girl lying

[local]

I've done it before and CIP- literally she told me she didnt take the pill and the panic wasnt worth it until she said 'dont worry about it, i'll sort it out'.

Then somehow along the time of punting my mate confessed he goes and tells me that he doesn't use condoms- I asked where and it just so happens to be that same place with the same girl (she was the only Korean that works there).

After that I never saw her again. not sure what i was more disappointed about though- my mate doing the same (he aint very good looking) or the girl lying

Girl claims not taking pill (or having any contraception) ..... and letting you CIP ??

And you believe her ?

As I said earlier, its all about $$'s and getting you back to spend more...

[somtum]

Done this multiple times when I was young. fucking loved it to be honest. Paid the price with Chlamydia after one encounter with a Chinese cutie working massage on Oxford street. The Green Door shop. Think they have closed now. Anyway, we did bareback twice letting me cum inside her.

[Amberdesk1]

Just reading this thread and the comments on condoms not protecting against herpes. Does that mean everyone on this site has herpes?

[tommy1982]

Done two at moc(aka) and sweetgirls early days. Midas with violet and kristine few times. Thats about it. This was when i was foolish. Never again.

[somtum]

I swear I posted here this morning??? My post not good? Didn't mention the girls names…

[somtum]

I'll try again with a different story lol.

The hottest instance was with a mix Japanese/Aussie girl at P***'s in Enmore. Loooooong time ago. I was going down on her and she pulled me up from my arms. At first I thought I was hesitant as I was enjoying licking her pussy. She said something to get me to stop, can't remember that. But, I do remember placing her hand between my legs and guiding my one-eyed snake with no protection into her. God I loved it.

[gunboundray]

Girl claims not taking pill (or having any contraception) ..... and letting you CIP ??

And you believe her ?

As I said earlier, its all about $$'s and getting you back to spend more...

Nah, I didnt but my dick did. And knowing full its about the $$ too.

Its really a stupid move and its so understandable when its at the heat of the moment.

Yea. Thinking back, STD is definitely on a rise- I heard from my mate that he just caught something too (yes same mate), so keep your eyes open boys.

[H2O]

I’ve done it twice and yeah it was a silly thing. One thing led to another, we just clicked. It’s not always about $$$, I wouldn’t have done it otherwise. But still I was taking a big risk thinking she only did it with me. Will never do it again!

[drifter]

Back in the 80’s it was all bareback to me. Even in the Phillipines all bareback.

I never caught a STI.

So lucky

I would never bareback now.

Very true indeed. Always did bareback in Caucs brothels until AIDS became a problem. They also check your dick for other stuff. Never caught anything.

[Archer]

Heard a horror story recently about punter barebacking without WLs consent. Is that a criminal offences?

[Raphael]

Heard a horror story recently about punter barebacking without WLs consent. Is that a criminal offences?

Having non-consensual BB sex is rape. So yes there will be jail time.

[Funland]

Engaged in BBFS with Annie at Castle Hill once. She used to do this mad pussy slide and I saw her many times but one day she was grinding her pussy hard on my cock in cowgirl position when her very wet pussy just slipped onto me and next thing you know we are fucking. She didn't miss a beat and just kept going until I said I was going to blow and she raised up and pulled me out before I blew all over my stomach as she was pussy sliding her wet box along my cock. This was an epic session with an absolutely amazing ML.

[GoldfishMan]

Having non-consensual BB sex is rape. So yes there will be jail time.
I do not condone doing it but to be frank, it is not so black and white. He might be in trouble for other types of offense like sexual assault, but maybe not for rape. For one thing, the consent for sex was already established. Surely that throws out the rape charge.

[local]

Having non-consensual BB sex is rape. So yes there will be jail time.

Unless your have heard all the evidence and are the presiding judge, how can you comment ??

I suggest you put a condom on it and blow yourself !!

Please dont change the topic on this thread, start anew or pick up on one of the many old.

[BigDickAsian]

Been having BBFS with a WL several times now. Have built up trust. So far so good. I told her the first time it’s fine that I’m clean and I asked if she wanted me to wear a dom and she said “no”. So we continue to fuck BB. Feels so good.

But it gets a bit old hat after a while. On to look for my next target.

[virgileco]

I do not condone doing it but to be frank, it is not so black and white. He might be in trouble for other types of offense like sexual assault, but maybe not for rape. For one thing, the consent for sex was already established. Surely that throws out the rape charge.

Just though I would throw this article out there, which basically supports your position.

https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/stealthing-and-the-law/8489348

[TheMaestro]

Been having BBFS with a WL several times now. Have built up trust. So far so good. I told her the first time it’s fine that I’m clean and I asked if she wanted me to wear a dom and she said “no”. So we continue to fuck BB. Feels so good.

But it gets a bit old hat after a while. On to look for my next target.

Next will it be BB Anal?

[BigDickAsian]

Next will it be BB Anal?
To be honest anal kinda grosses me out. It's poo in there.

[TheMaestro]

You don't want to get a choc top!

[Yageez88]

What's people's thoughts on doing it with one that seems to have a bf/guy she seeing?

[BigDickAsian]

You don't want to get a choc top!
Speaking from personal experience?

[krnboy]

You don't want to get a choc top!

An old mate of mine had bits of undigested corn when he pulled out once

[juscruisin58]

What's people's thoughts on doing it with one that seems to have a bf/guy she seeing?

I have been bbfs for about 18 mnths now.
Cauc, met her in a R&T shop, then she started seeing me privately for FS
Told me about her BF, and suggested MMF meets.
It was them that introduced me to 3somes, DP and anal on a girl

[azza1234]

Only ever did it once with a new girl that started. Funny story but ended being the "hero"to her which involved getting rid of some cockroaches. Not sure I would do it again but that was one crazy punt.....

[manjuice333]

An old mate of mine had bits of undigested corn when he pulled out once

A mate of yours had this happen, but your username is krnboy?

It’s okay mate, you’re in the circle of trust here, you can tell us about the corn on your dick..

[Kevsbrah]

A mate of yours had this happen, but your username is krnboy?

It’s okay mate, you’re in the circle of trust here, you can tell us about the corn on your dick..

Just tell her you were saving the corn for when she comes back and does some ass to mouth action

[carmen farquis]

https://youtu.be/POM_98oi0oo

[TheMaestro]

Just tell her you were saving the corn for when she comes back and does some ass to mouth action

A bit of extra proteins!!

[didaswiwaw]

DNA test come back positive...
Having a child with a Icehead WL
Nothing but regret

Just wondering what's the story behind this, because its so hard to believe to be honest.

How did the WL certain that it was you? How did the WL know your contact?

Did she ask for child support? If she did, isn't she the one who probably have to pay. WL can have nett income of $1k+ a day, unless you have higher income than her. You should be able to see your child if you are paying child support, right?

Did she go through abortion?

[lonely heart]

Just wondering what's the story behind this, because its so hard to believe to be honest.

Its really not that hard to believe. Regular customer don'r not smart enough and CIP or WL/ML deliberate setup customer for PR that cost more than 100K now (fake marriage) and 18 years of child support)


How did the WL certain that it was you? How did the WL know your contact?

Did she ask for child support? If she did, isn't she the one who probably have to pay. WL can have nett income of $1k+ a day, unless you have higher income than her. You should be able to see your child if you are paying child support, right?

Did she go through abortion?

Are you serious? (I admire your naïve thinking)

Obviously the family court ordered a DNA test to confirm the parentage of the child. All she need is a phone number then family court has the right to have the carrier hand over the registration detail. As for the income support, the girls will always have the upper hand not to mention there is no prove of her income. Everything is stack against the guy.

[Niceguy11]

Its really not that hard to believe. Regular customer don'r not smart enough and CIP or WL/ML deliberate setup customer for PR that cost more than 100K now (fake marriage) and 18 years of child support)



Are you serious? (I admire your naïve thinking)

Obviously the family court ordered a DNA test to confirm the parentage of the child. All she need is a phone number then family court has the right to have the carrier hand over the registration detail. As for the income support, the girls will always have the upper hand not to mention there is no prove of her income. Everything is stack against the guy.

That is crazy man. I suppose it makes sense because if the WL gets pregnant, then her chances of getting PR are better. I never thought of it that way where the WL would want to do bareback in order to get PR.

[lonely heart]

That is crazy man. I suppose it makes sense because if the WL gets pregnant, then her chances of getting PR are better. I never thought of it that way where the WL would want to do bareback in order to get PR.

You tell me:

Case 1, Fake marriage, will cost the girl 100K plus. She will also have to pay for the rental during the approval period (2-3 years). Then if she is reasonably good looking chance she will have to sleep with the guy too. After all this you are still not guarantee a PR. The process are likely to drag on for a few more year or worse case the whole thing goes south. VS

Case 2, Find the right customer lure him into giving you his number, flood him with GFE....you know the drill. Oh obviously patiently observe if he is wealthy enough to pay child support too. Then leave the work to nature or a few needle through the dom will get the job done. Once the child is born, you have your ticket to PR, also time to call family lawyer to say hi to your beloved customer....

Easy choice isn't it....

[Riff888]

You tell me:

Case 1, Fake marriage, will cost the girl 100K plus. She will also have to pay for the rental during the approval period (2-3 years). Then if she is reasonably good looking chance she will have to sleep with the guy too. After all this you are still not guarantee a PR. The process are likely to drag on for a few more year or worse case the whole thing goes south. VS

Case 2, Find the right customer lure him into giving you his number, flood him with GFE....you know the drill. Oh obviously patiently observe if he is wealthy enough to pay child support too. Then leave the work to nature or a few needle through the dom will get the job done. Once the child is born, you have your ticket to PR, also time to call family lawyer to say hi to your beloved customer....

Easy choice isn't it....Having a child is no longer a ticket to PR.

Domestic violence is still a stronger ticket to PR.

So if she claims DV, the man has to clear his name which could take time. By that stage she'll already have PR.

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[holi_day]

I remember reading a news a wealthy man stayed in a hotel (he was a regular there). One of the hotel cleaners obviously been observing this man for a while. She found his condom in the bin and used the sperm to get herself pregnant and gave birth to a child.

The case was settled at like 2.5m US dollars? Just found this story quite inspiring.

I am nowhere near wealthy enough to worry. Some of you may concern where your biological substances go.

[wilisno]

I remember reading a news a wealthy man stayed in a hotel (he was a regular there). One of the hotel cleaners obviously been observing this man for a while. She found his condom in the bin and used the sperm to get herself pregnant and gave birth to a child.

The case was settled at like 2.5m US dollars? Just found this story quite inspiring.

I am nowhere near wealthy enough to worry. Some of you may concern where your biological substances go.
Not an easy task, sperm doesn’t survive that long outside the body.

[didaswiwaw]

Its really not that hard to believe. Regular customer don'r not smart enough and CIP or WL/ML deliberate setup customer for PR that cost more than 100K now (fake marriage) and 18 years of child support)



Are you serious? (I admire your naïve thinking)

Obviously the family court ordered a DNA test to confirm the parentage of the child. All she need is a phone number then family court has the right to have the carrier hand over the registration detail. As for the income support, the girls will always have the upper hand not to mention there is no prove of her income. Everything is stack against the guy.

I see, I guess having to prove the father is easy, but how do the WL know if the guy even have PR or have decent income. I mean most of the brothel in the CBD mainly have asian customers, or do you mean this kind of thing happen to caucasian customers?

What if the guy that the WL got pregnant with only have $50k income? Or worst what if the guy is just an overseas student?

[Yageez88]

Engaged in BBFS with Annie at Castle Hill once. She used to do this mad pussy slide and I saw her many times but one day she was grinding her pussy hard on my cock in cowgirl position when her very wet pussy just slipped onto me and next thing you know we are fucking. She didn't miss a beat and just kept going until I said I was going to blow and she raised up and pulled me out before I blew all over my stomach as she was pussy sliding her wet box along my cock. This was an epic session with an absolutely amazing ML.

Similar exp with a reg. Had her do the sliding while I came the next few times I saw her. Awesome feeling hey

[Bobbybareback]

I've got in excess of 500GB of WL that I've barebacked. I'm a true barebacker. I call up, visit and or aquire intel on WL who provide BBFS.
It's "raw all not at all" that's my motto.

[Kiryu0]

I've got in excess of 500GB of WL that I've barebacked. I'm a true barebacker. I call up, visit and or aquire intel on WL who provide BBFS.
It's "raw all not at all" that's my motto.

Wot? 500GB of WL?

[Climax598]

I've got in excess of 500GB of WL that I've barebacked. I'm a true barebacker. I call up, visit and or aquire intel on WL who provide BBFS.
It's "raw all not at all" that's my motto.
Are you stealing the Crown from BC.

[warwick1]

Are you stealing the Crown from BC.

Not so much a Crown but an old bucket......................

[vitrium]

I've got in excess of 500GB of WL that I've barebacked. I'm a true barebacker. I call up, visit and or aquire intel on WL who provide BBFS.
It's "raw all not at all" that's my motto.

Wow are we talking CIP? That's hectic mate.

I've had BBFS offered to me a couple of times but never taken it. I'm too chicken shit for it.

I did have a RnT girl who progressed to FS want me to fuck her bareback. Worried about diseases and getting a bitch pregnant though.

[cuteguy]

That is crazy man. I suppose it makes sense because if the WL gets pregnant, then her chances of getting PR are better. I never thought of it that way where the WL would want to do bareback in order to get PR.

A WL revealed how her Thai friend (WL) wanted to stay in Australia because she saw more potential to make money here rather than in Thailand. She found a wealthy handsome Chinese guy who visited her in the shop. She was very cunning and let him bareback her a few times until she became pregnant. She kept it a secret from him at first. When he found out that he was going to be the father of her child, he demanded that she have an abortion but she refused and gave birth in Australia. She then sought PR and went into a woman's refuge claiming that he was harassing her. He went to court to have her removed from Australia. In the end, I heard she was successful in remaining in Australia. He has to pay her child maintenance and wants nothing to do with the child. The biggest mistake for him was doing bareback and CIP with a WL.