The Girls & The Industry

[Yougottabe]

I’ve been punting since 2004 & reading the forum since 2016. Only participating recently.
Many girls who work for places like some Asian shops & even Caucasian shops seem to enjoy the work. The girls are beautiful, friendly & the service is great. We have to remember though the girls are providing us a service & want the quick earn.
But what about the ones who are unhappy &
I’m sure a lot of experienced punters have seen it.
Here is the burning question. Has anything like the below happened with any other punter?
I remember back in 2008 I saw a girl in the line-up at a shop in Surry Hills. She became my regular Korean girl so I never asked for a line up again. However after awhile the girl who was always good with me got distant & then I saw the bruises she was clearly getting abused. I felt terrible for her I wanted to report it to the owner she told me not to. To this day I am not sure if I made the right decision,
I didn’t punt for 6 months.
I did stop going to places if I saw anything remotely ordinary altogether.
I bring this up cause we should really do everything we can to protect these girls.
I’m sure other punters have some ordinary stories

[AHLUNGOR]

Bruises on her body might have Nothing to do with her works ? She could have a jealous boyfriend or husband and it’s all domestic violence whether she was working or not ?

[wilisno]

If the boss knows, she might be suspended from working until it’s healed, that’s why she doesn’t want the boss know.

[kenlewis]

Thanks for concern of those WL so we punt in healthy environment. Sometimes helping will create another problem as WL have lots of concerns, such as working without visa, personal issue or as Ahlungor mentioned above domestic violence etc. Respect their decision. Hopefully didn’t offend anyone here.

[Climax598]

The Boss knows. The girls are almost nude most of the time in the waiting room. As long the boss is not abusing the girls.

[dotcumdotinyou]

I like your empathy, your concern for the girls is commendable.

But as others have said, they have too many issues in their working and private lives for us to get involved with, unless is serious abuse don't get involved.

[wilisno]

The Boss knows. The girls are almost nude most of the time in the waiting room. As long the boss is not abusing the girls.

Really ?

Which shops are you going to ? Is there a rule in that shop that the girls can’t put on a thin overcoat or something even when it’s cold ?

[Yougottabe]

Bruises on her body might have Nothing to do with her works ? She could have a jealous boyfriend or husband and it’s all domestic violence whether she was working or not ?
The girls were all living in the one accomodation. I think even you know this was common a decade & more ago. Especially with Korean shops. I asked one girl what does she think of Sydney & she said I haven’t seen any of it. I believed her & she didnt have a husband here she was on a visa & very young. I should have maybe explained it better.

[Yougottabe]

The Boss knows. The girls are almost nude most of the time in the waiting room. As long the boss is not abusing the girls.
This place did have the girls parade nude in the line-Up. Which we might’ve liked. But I’m sure the girls didn’t & I didn’t see any of them enjoying it.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Sounds like 359 riley back in the day.

[Yougottabe]

If the boss knows, she might be suspended from working until it’s healed, that’s why she doesn’t want the boss know.
Yes of course this could happen. As could also happen & not necessarily this girl but others hate the work & would gladly be sent home to Korea, China etc.

[wilisno]

Yes of course this could happen. As could also happen & not necessarily this girl but others hate the work & would gladly be sent home to Korea, China etc.

So, if she hates the work, then it’s not your worries !

If it’s some minor bruises, she might’ve bumped into something herself, no need to raise the alarm. If it’s multiple wounds, you should report it, even to to police regardless of who did it to her !

[Yougottabe]

Sounds like 359 riley back in the day. Yep. I must say I have no idea what it’s like now as many owners have been through that place in the last decade. I haven’t been in the shop for a decade. Like a famous one in Crown St it got raided on many occasions in the 00’s & early 10’s. It should be noted that the industry has cleaned itself up & raids are less common these days.

[Climax598]

This place did have the girls parade nude in the line-Up. Which we might’ve liked. But I’m sure the girls didn’t & I didn’t see any of them enjoying it.
Where is this place. Could be the girls are imported by agent. Could be not working free will.

[Riff888]

I've haven't seen abuse by a shop or agency, maybe just overworking the girls.

I have heard horrible stories of abuse and ill treatment from customers.

I knew one agency that didn't blacklist bad customers because the papasan didn't care for nothing else except the cash.

Times have changed and the agency/outcall scene is almost dead.

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[Pussyhands]

Sometimes rough sex can leave bruises?

I see some girls with bruises on knee for giving blow jobs

I dunno, there medical conditions for bruising?

I haven’t seen many like that

Sometimes it’s hard to figure out as some girls use their body in very PSE way to earn more

[dotcumdotinyou]

Don't forget that the girls themselves can be ruthless when it comes to $$$

I remember seeing a pretty young thing at 1 blackburn about 12 years ago who had some bruises on her bum and thighs, when I asked her about it she told me a few of the other girls had ganged up on her because they thought she was stealing their regulars from them. I forget the name of the place it was behind Elizabeth street (towards central) Tokyo girls??? I helped the mamasan break up a fight between her 3 girls, and they weren't holding back. I got kicked in the nuts and bitten while the mamasan copped a black eye and bruised shin.

[CunningLinguist]

Don't forget that the girls themselves can be ruthless when it comes to $$$

I remember seeing a pretty young thing at 1 blackburn about 12 years ago who had some bruises on her bum and thighs, when I asked her about it she told me a few of the other girls had ganged up on her because they thought she was stealing their regulars from them. I forget the name of the place it was behind Elizabeth street (towards central) Tokyo girls??? I helped the mamasan break up a fight between her 3 girls, and they weren't holding back. I got kicked in the nuts and bitten while the mamasan copped a black eye and bruised shin.

FMD!
Girl fights are nasty, WL fights sound really bad arse!

[God Member]

Yeah, Christmas was just writing about a fight between chinese and Vietnamese girls in the shop and one girl who pulled out a knife ! :startle::surprise:

But that donnybrook described above sounds pretty funny. :shout:

[cuteguy]

I've heard stories from some WLs of guys being rough with them. One WL told me that certain ethnic groups were more likely to do it than others since it was acceptable within their culture and because they were paying therefore they believed they could do whatever they liked with the WLs. That's really sad to hear.

[Peterpecker]

Haven't seen any bruises but I've had a few bruises inflicted I have to say.....

[PervySage]

Haven't seen bruises or visible signs the ML/WL has been hurt or abused but plenty of stories.

The reality is this industry attracts A lot of customers with bad behaviours.

[cuteguy]

Haven't seen bruises or visible signs the ML/WL has been hurt or abused but plenty of stories.

The reality is this industry attracts A lot of customers with bad behaviours.

Just saw a WL recently who briefly touched on the subject of how well she's been treated by customers. She mentioned having good and bad customers. The bad ones tended to be rough and very aggressive. An example she gave was pulling her hair.

[rooter]

The girls face all sorts of customers; sadists, psychos, druggies, Aussie yobbos/bogans, wogs from backwards cultures, peasants from 3rd World countries who are used to fucking goats.
The girls put up with a lot of shit
It's a tough job.
The good shops get feedback from the girls and ban lowlife scum who are rough, or mistreat or harm the girls. And that is great,
But the problem is these bastards just move on to other shops that are desperate for customers and will let anyone in, even lowlife scum.

[PervySage]

But the problem is these bastards just move on to other shops that are desperate for customers and will let anyone in, even lowlife scum.

I have a feeling the reality is in this industry a large percentage of customers are scum, of course fellow forumites excepted. I hope!

Let's just hope owners and reception staff at these establishments try and help the girls by weeding out the ones who treat girls badly, but I suspect even then money talks..

[wilisno]

The girls face all sorts of customers; sadists, psychos, fruggies, Aussie yobbos/bogans, wogs from backwards cultures, peasants from 3rd World countries who are used to fucking goats.
The girls put up with a lot of shit
It's a tough job.
The good shops get feedback from the girls and ban lowlife scum who are rough, or mistreat or harm the girls. And that is great,
But the problem is these bastards just move on to other shops that are desperate for customers and will let anyone in, even lowlife scum.

I doubt if any shops are desperate enough to welcome the bastards that would harm the girls, the girls are more valuable to them than any single customer !

Just that the scumbags don’t have a logo tattooed on their forehead, there’s no way to tell until he’s in the room with the girl, but if the girls yell out, I’m sure the session can be terminated.

[rooter]

I doubt if any shops are desperate enough to welcome the bastards that would harm the girls, the girls are more valuable to them than any single customer !

Just that the scumbags don’t have a logo tattooed on their forehead, there’s no way to tell until he’s in the room with the girl, but if the girls yell out, I’m sure the session can be terminated.

True.
We would hope that once the shop gets feedback from the girl about customers that hurt or mistreat them that they listen to the girls and ban the bastards.
But these bastards keep moving from shop to shop.

[CunningLinguist]

Once they find a bad one they should tattoo them on the forehead ...

[nostromo]

I've never heard a ML/WL in a shop complain about outright abusive customers but have heard plenty of complaints from girls in the CBD shops about customers that have been drinking and don't respect boundaries or become verbally aggressive.

I assume the shop has some process of dealing with physically aggressive customers. And in NSW at least they should have the full backing of the police.

[cuteguy]

I've never heard a ML/WL in a shop complain about outright abusive customers but have heard plenty of complaints from girls in the CBD shops about customers that have been drinking and don't respect boundaries or become verbally aggressive.

I assume the shop has some process of dealing with physically aggressive customers. And in NSW at least they should have the full backing of the police.

Many girls won't report it because they are here on visas and don't want to get involved with the law.

[rooter]

Just because you pay for a girls time doesn't mean you can do what you want with her.
There are basic rules of human decency and also Laws on Sexual Assault that must be respected.
There are lots of ways a girl can be abused or mistreated.
Any customer who does any of the following things is a lowlife scum:
Physical abuse
Verbal abuse
Threats
Continuing to fuck a girl even she says she is in pain
Continuing to fuck a girl even after she tells you to stop
Insisting on another round even if the girl says she is in pain or too tired
Trying to get BBFS by insisting or by deception.
Insisting on CIM even if a girl says she won't do it
Insisting on anal even if a girl says she won't do it
Forcing your cock down a girls throat even if she is choking or gagging
Face fucking a girl even if she protests she doesn't want that.
Grabbing a girls head or hair and forcing it down hard against your cock while getting a blowjob even if its very clear she is not willing.
Insisting on getting the girls personal details, phone number etc
Stalking the girl
Basically doing anything to the girl without her consent or persisting in doing something even if she says no.

Anyone who does any of the above is a lowlife scum vermin dog and in many cases also a rapist.
These scum deserve to thrown out of the shop and banned for life, and in some cases the cops called in and charged with sexual assault and imprisoned.
There is no place for this scum in a civilised society.

[sr71]

Rooter writes particularly well. His words are correct and they should be heeded. Every punter must read Rooter's most recent posts before visiting any more brothels or happy ending shops and conduct themselves accordingly.
Shop managers are also culpable if they don't take effective measures to keep their girls safe from violent abuse and remove,ban and shame these rotten turds.

[Niceguy11]

I think majority of punters are scum. Not all but the vast majority are. This one time I was at a shop and walked past a group of young men from a certain demographic. I heard them talking about "bro I'm going to fuck her pussy hard and cum all over her face" type of guys. You know the ones that to clubbing asking girls "do you root, I want to fuck you". Well yeah, those sorts of cunts. Anyway as I was walking past I was cringing on the inside thinking how sorry I feel for the poor WL that has to fuck these guys. And to make things worse, all the girls were Chinese and couldn't speak a word of English so just imagine what these guys were saying to the girls (derogatory comments of course) because they wouldn't understand. But apart from bad punters, the industry is hard and difficult. The girls are trying to live a better life and in most cases support family back home.

[Kawaiionnanoko]

Just because you pay for a girls time doesn't mean you can do what you want with her.
There are basic rules of human decency and also Laws on Sexual Assault that must be respected.
There are lots of ways a girl can be abused or mistreated.
Any customer who does any of the following things is a lowlife scum:
Physical abuse
Verbal abuse
Threats
Continuing to fuck a girl even she says she is in pain
Continuing to fuck a girl even after she tells you to stop
Insisting on another round even if the girl says she is in pain or too tired
Trying to get BBFS by insisting or by deception.
Insisting on CIM even if a girl says she won't do it
Insisting on anal even if a girl says she won't do it
Forcing your cock down a girls throat even if she is choking or gagging
Face fucking a girl even if she protests she doesn't want that.
Grabbing a girls head or hair and forcing it down hard against your cock while getting a blowjob even if its very clear she is not willing.
Insisting on getting the girls personal details, phone number etc
Stalking the girl
Basically doing anything to the girl without her consent or persisting in doing something even if she says no.

Anyone who does any of the above is a lowlife scum vermin dog and in many cases also a rapist.
These scum deserve to thrown out of the shop and banned for life, and in some cases the cops called in and charged with sexual assault and imprisoned.
There is no place for this scum in a civilised society.
This information is beneficial those service girls and punter’s privilege knowing where to stop. Respect our partners. Thanks for educated us.

[cuteguy]

I think majority of punters are scum. Not all but the vast majority are. This one time I was at a shop and walked past a group of young men from a certain demographic. I heard them talking about "bro I'm going to fuck her pussy hard and cum all over her face" type of guys. You know the ones that to clubbing asking girls "do you root, I want to fuck you". Well yeah, those sorts of cunts. Anyway as I was walking past I was cringing on the inside thinking how sorry I feel for the poor WL that has to fuck these guys. And to make things worse, all the girls were Chinese and couldn't speak a word of English so just imagine what these guys were saying to the girls (derogatory comments of course) because they wouldn't understand. But apart from bad punters, the industry is hard and difficult. The girls are trying to live a better life and in most cases support family back home.

Well, there are many guys out there who have no respect for girls with an intent to inflict pain and treat them badly. I'm sure many guys have heard many WLs reveal stories about their bad encounters with some customers. Not all girls will but some feel that they have to let it out and tell their stories to some guys who are willing to listen to them because it hurts inside of them knowing what some guys have done to them. Some girls have stated that they had to change shops because they couldn't bear to work under certain working conditions and high demands from customers expecting them to do everything since they were paying for it and she had to do it. It sure is a tough industry for the girls but then no one is forcing them to work in these shops or to see 6 to 10 guys per day in some shops. The lure of good money makes the work in this industry for long periods of time.

On the point of customers speaking their own language and possibly making derogatory comments about the girls, how about girls speaking in their own language in front of you? Sometimes, you have a double girl session and the girls are both speaking their own language. How do you know they are not making derogatory comments about you? If you ask them to translate they will just laugh at you.