It's been great fun but time to call it a day

[Byron2001]

I was involved with Thailand for a single week every year when I went mad with drinking and fucking gogo girls and massage girls. Had amazing anal sex with two girls at once. Had girls hang out for several days at a time who would take me around the place for fun. Alas it petered out and the scene in Thailand just changed so much. The girls got more mercenary and the good times just seemed like a distant memory. I had fallen out of love with Thailand.

Then two years ago I suddenly discovered there was an amazing scene in Sydney under my nose. Japanese girls, Korean girls, Chinese girls, Viet girls. I was like a kid in a candy store. The good times were so good. Had a Jap girl that i took to Thailand with me on a holiday and we fucked like rabbits. Had two Viet girls who did anal sex and one who did ATM with swallow. OMG it was good. Tall Japanese girls who were horny, submissive and wet as fuck. Korean girls who were more beautiful than I ever thought they could be. Even an Indian girl who changed my ideas on what a beautiful girl could possibly be. Alas every good thing comes to an end. I always outstayed my welcome. The good girls are really good but they are far and few between so you want to see them more. You may not see a girl for a long while and they didn't do what you liked before, didn't look at you in the same way anymore. Always something to ruin the fun that makes punting so good. Alas today was a low point when I got told by a girl I had been seeing monthly for a year now that she no longer wanted to see me. I thought we had a connection but no. A young papasan from that place told me a long time ago never believe a working girl. Young, beautiful, fun, fickle, lazy, dumb all in the same package. It can really fuck your brain in the way these girls work but its best not waste your time trying to understand it.

Anyway I think its time take a break, save my time and money on more productive endeavours and use this as a reality check. I think there's enough memories for me to live on and I've had a wonderfull run. There is something in the rule of only seeing a girl once even if it lacks any soul. Thanks to the guys who did reviews and gave me leads on this forum.

[doubles]

Good luck Byron and thank you for your heartfelt post. Also a thank you to all our bros who contribute intel but also those who want out.

[AHLUNGOR]

And thanks to all your contributions too Byron !

Take care .

[Dettol]

I sense that the lack of willingness to do ass to mouths or double anal sex and other sex acts you described from the girls sort of ruin the fun ?

One can only wonder the reason why that lady won’t see you anymore. Enjoy your retirement.

[Climax598]

You will come back. A punter will not lay down his tools until his tools are 🥀.

[xboyx]

See you in a week time bro. I've quit quitting punting.

[harrycd]

Damn GL bro, going to miss all your Intel.

I do agree with the not getting to close to a WL as well :(

took a 12 month break that worked for me, half tempted to take another hiatus :/

[Byron2001]

Damn GL bro, going to miss all your Intel.

I do agree with the not getting to close to a WL as well :(

took a 12 month break that worked for me, half tempted to take another hiatus :/

Yeah I don't need anyone to love me or for me to rescue. It's just the fun factor of having a great root with someone you like that I was after. When you catch the glimpse of the smile disappearing just before you've left the room then you there's no illusion left is there? Plastic love.

[wilisno]

See you in a week time bro. I've quit quitting punting.
Haha, I like this phrase “ quit quitting ”. Once I told a friend to cut down on smoking, he told me to cut down on telling people to cut down on smoking ! ;) ;) ;)

[storry_teller]

Yeah I don't need anyone to love me or for me to rescue. It's just the fun factor of having a great root with someone you like that I was after. When you catch the glimpse of the smile disappearing just before you've left the room then you there's no illusion left is there? Plastic love.
Of course. What else apart of plastic love you expect? Laugh so hard.

[des888]

Been there done that and took a year off, probably the best thing for you at this point of time. All the best it is gruelling what we put ourselves through

[Sydlong]

Sorry to hear you got hurt Byron but sometimes it comes with the turf, I had heard stories from some ML and WL about guys falling in love

Call me cold but I leave the emotional side outside and just enjoy the girls for the physical pursuits they offer - simples!

[Byron2001]

Hurt & gruelling is too strong a word for just a (expensive!) recreational activity. I've just had enough of the antics & mind fucks. And yeah it's really funny until it stops being fun Yeah sure I'll fuck again at some point maybe next year but not next week that's for sure.

[moby]

Alas today was a low point when I got told by a girl I had been seeing monthly for a year now that she no longer wanted to see me. I thought we had a connection but no. A young papasan from that place told me a long time ago never believe a working girl. Young, beautiful, fun, fickle, lazy, dumb all in the same package. It can really fuck your brain in the way these girls work but its best not waste your time trying to understand it.



Thanks for all your great info

No offence, but you still have some learning to do if you are feeling anything personal or sense any connection with a WL. You are never the only guy she is dealing with.
Many experts here have given this great advice countless times: you pay, you punt, then you leave, and leave your emotions at the door as you leave.
You can see a WL more than once but nothing is serious. Its a business transaction.
Just like a lady who serves as your waitress or Coles checkout, she is just there to earn a wage without being harassed

Not too hard once you learn

Not sure about your case, but generally if all the meaningful sex in a mans life has been with a WL, thats an issue

[CunningLinguist]

I think of seeing a WL as seeing a movie, you pay, you live for the moment, then you leave and saviour the memories, you can go back and watch it as many times as you like, but once you walk out the door you are back in the real world, not in the fantasy world of paying for sex. Sure you can see her outside the shop, but that is like watching a mini-series, same thing just a fantasy that extends outside the "cinema". You may click and think she really likes you, and yeah maybe she does for a while, but like a lion that has tasted human blood, or a junkie, the nature of the beast is such that the odds are you are gonna get shafted once a better opportunity comes along... Basically once someone becomes a WL their brain gets conditioned to seek money and use their looks for money you can forget about her as a RLGF. Sure there are exceptions but if you thought you could sing or act would you give up your day job to pursue that career ...

[moby]

You may click and think she really likes you, and yeah maybe she does for a while, but like a lion that has tasted human blood, or a junkie, the nature of the beast is such that the odds are you are gonna get shafted once a better opportunity comes along... Basically once someone becomes a WL their brain gets conditioned to seek money and use their looks for money you can forget about her as a RLGF

Nice analogy. A bit like the lion tamers at the circus that eventually get hurt.
Best not to think get to emotionally involved, enjoy the moment, the lion doesnt like you, when they look at you they see a head, two skinny legs, and a tasty steak in the middle
I will never criticise a WL, like the waitress she is there to make money not be your girlfriend. But it takes emotional balance and security to punt for a long time and keep that emotional distance

[Riff888]

Dated a few, fell in love with 3, Thai, Japanese and Chinese.

Still keep in contact with two, really good friends with one.

Found a Thai girl on Coffee meets Bagels dating app and have not punted since.

Dating a non WL is so refreshing, I totally forgot what it was like. She doesn't know anything about my punting past or that I still talk to other girls but I'm keeping it that way.

I feel like if I start punting again it will ruin the relationship. This is just my view since I can't hide things well.

Having WLs as friends/kik is great.

As a WL friend told me once, it takes a very strong and patient man do date and marry a WL/ex WL. I think there's probably a 10% success rate.

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[Raybo]

I don't think the op 'fell in love' or had too much of an emotional attachment, I think he felt like he was on a good thing and that is no longer available. Since everyone else is doing analogies, it's like going to your favourite resturant you quite like for the food, service, value and ambience every week for a year only to turn up the following week to find it is shut down. It's just disappointing that option is no longer available to you.

Are you supposed to simply forget about it and move on? I don't know about you, but my mind doesn't work like an internet browser where I can go in to the settings and delete browsing history, favourite websites and cache and just start again with default settings.

You spend any regular period of time with anyone, how are you supposed to just forget about them when you have so many good memories.......that's why you kept going back, right?

[Riff888]

You spend any regular period of time with anyone, how are you supposed to just forget about them when you have so many good memories.......that's why you kept going back, right?

I'm the same, how can you not have any sort of feelings develop over time. This is just normal human behaviour.

I think WLs need to feel loved as well, even if it's all a facade.

This girl used to come over my pace after her very long shifts. Not for sex, just to sleep next to me, cuddle and talk like a normal couple. We even had breakfast in the mornings. This is exactly what I needed at the time, the peak of my punting days between 2015/2016.

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[Raybo]

I'm the same, how can you not have any sort of feelings develop over time. This is just normal human behaviour.

I guess therein lies the problem, punting is perhaps not normal human behaviour, whether that be the actions of punters or service providers. Especially if you consider some of the responses on this thread.

[moby]

Dating a non WL is so refreshing, I totally forgot what it was like. She doesn't know anything about my punting past or that I still talk to other girls but I'm keeping it that way.

Dating non WL is healthy
Rarely hear guys say this on this forum but its true.
Punt for the sex
Date non WL for the sex and the companionship

When you date an ML/WL, one of the reasons they will lose interest is because they dont trust you.
How many brothels is this guy visiting? they ask themselves, and they think, he can leave me anytime and meet a new ML, WL

A ML asked me just that question: I like you but how do I know you dont come back to this place on days I dont work?

[Climax598]

Dating non WL is healthy
Rarely hear guys say this on this forum but its true.
Punt for the sex
Date non WL for the sex and the companionship

When you date an ML/WL, one of the reasons they will lose interest is because they dont trust you.
How many brothels is this guy visiting? they ask themselves, and they think, he can leave me anytime and meet a new ML, WL
They ask who did you see in her working shop. They feel jealous. I guess is only human nature to get jealous. She did say to me is hard to trust men now or getting married. I say is also men hard to trust wl.

[wilisno]

What if 2 persons know each other in their social circle, become good friends and fall in love with each other outside of work. And the girl happens to be a WL, would she have the same distrust against the guy ? Or when the guy realised his girlfriend is or was a WL but he didn’t mind, but would he continue to trust her ?

[Climax598]

What if 2 persons know each other in their social circle, become good friends and fall in love with each other outside of work. And the girl happens to be a WL, would she have the same distrust against the guy ? Or when the guy realised his girlfriend is or was a WL but he didn’t mind, but would he continue to trust her ?
Each individual would have to answer this question.

[Riff888]

What if 2 persons know each other in their social circle, become good friends and fall in love with each other outside of work. And the girl happens to be a WL, would she have the same distrust against the guy ? Or when the guy realised his girlfriend is or was a WL but he didn’t mind, but would he continue to trust her ?Good question.

There's not much worse your girlfriend can do if she sleeps with guys daily as a job. If a guy can except this totally, it'll probably be the most trustworthy relationship, since you are willing to except it as a job inside the shop and nothing more.

I think a WL may prefer a man who doesn't punt but that's another can of worms.

This happened to a WL friend. She had a boyfriend that didn't punt and didn't know she was a WL. She decided to tell him. Apparently he ran to the bathroom and threw up. He then packed up and moved back to his mum's place. They still saw each other sporadically but things got worse when he was diagnosed with clinical depression and needed medication. I don't know what happened next, I had to cut ties, she was being hysterical and demanding. Like wanting me to drive her around Chatswood to find her BF who's switched off his phone.

My point; maybe a punter would be more accepting of a WLs situation.

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[moby]

Newspaper today described how a Chinese dad responded when Kylie Kwong famous chef told him she was guy. She was living at home with her parents.
Father said she had to move out by Friday.
Chinese can be very traditional.
Woman who is WL if news gets out then can be trouble. Booby trap in the past life

[harrycd]

Newspaper today described how a Chinese dad responded when Kylie Kwong famous chef told him she was guy. She was living at home with her parents.
Father said she had to move out by Friday.
Chinese can be very traditional.
Woman who is WL if news gets out then can be trouble. Booby trap in the past life


Wait shes gay right not a guy? She does look pretty masculine lol

[moby]

Wait shes gay right not a guy? She does look pretty masculine lol

Yes apparently she is gay, not that it matters at all. Just retelling her experience with traditional family

[Amos33]

Yes apparently she is gay, not that it natters at all. Just retelling her experience with traditional family
She told her story on Ahn’s Brush With Fame that aired on Wednesday on the ABC. She was 19 at the time and her father ended up changing his mind and didn’t want her to move out.

[ninjatuna]

This girl used to come over my pace after her very long shifts. Not for sex, just to sleep next to me, cuddle and talk like a normal couple. We even had breakfast in the mornings. This is exactly what I needed at the time, the peak of my punting days between 2015/2016.

Can't get any better. I rly do fantasise about this.

[SillyK2]

I was involved with Thailand for a single week every year when I went mad with drinking and fucking gogo girls and massage girls. Had amazing anal sex with two girls at once. Had girls hang out for several days at a time who would take me around the place for fun. Alas it petered out and the scene in Thailand just changed so much. The girls got more mercenary and the good times just seemed like a distant memory. I had fallen out of love with Thailand.

Then two years ago I suddenly discovered there was an amazing scene in Sydney under my nose. Japanese girls, Korean girls, Chinese girls, Viet girls. I was like a kid in a candy store. The good times were so good. Had a Jap girl that i took to Thailand with me on a holiday and we fucked like rabbits. Had two Viet girls who did anal sex and one who did ATM with swallow. OMG it was good. Tall Japanese girls who were horny, submissive and wet as fuck. Korean girls who were more beautiful than I ever thought they could be. Even an Indian girl who changed my ideas on what a beautiful girl could possibly be. Alas every good thing comes to an end. I always outstayed my welcome. The good girls are really good but they are far and few between so you want to see them more. You may not see a girl for a long while and they didn't do what you liked before, didn't look at you in the same way anymore. Always something to ruin the fun that makes punting so good. Alas today was a low point when I got told by a girl I had been seeing monthly for a year now that she no longer wanted to see me. I thought we had a connection but no. A young papasan from that place told me a long time ago never believe a working girl. Young, beautiful, fun, fickle, lazy, dumb all in the same package. It can really fuck your brain in the way these girls work but its best not waste your time trying to understand it.

Anyway I think its time take a break, save my time and money on more productive endeavours and use this as a reality check. I think there's enough memories for me to live on and I've had a wonderfull run. There is something in the rule of only seeing a girl once even if it lacks any soul. Thanks to the guys who did reviews and gave me leads on this forum.


I think you took this game too seriously and forgot that these girls are in the industry for the money and not the lifestyle. I've always believed that a public toilet is there for the convenience, and not to take ownership of..

[moby]

I think you took this game too seriously and forgot that these girls are in the industry for the money and not the lifestyle.
I've always believed that a public toilet is there for the convenience, and not to take ownership of..

Great quotes. But maybe a better analogy is a WL/ ML is like the flowers you see in botannic garden, enjoy but walk away afterwards, they arent yours

Yes a pretty young girl can have a million boyfriends on the outside
Unlike most men, most women are happy to settle down with one man, their reproduction relies on stability
They'd have to be desperate to hook up long term with a punter
Money is the only reason they are in the game

[dodgybastard2]

Good luck brother. Enjoy your life outside punting

[rooter]

Pay. Fuck. Leave
Simples.

66861

The meerkat shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 5:5

[CunningLinguist]

Yep, don't confuse a fantasy with a WL with real life, of course some people can never be told and will never learn, and so the tragedies will play out ...

I picked up what I thought was a normal chick once, was texting her for a while then got a list of prices, WTF!
What happened was she was texting for a while then her boyfriend/pimp picked up the phone and sent me the prices! So the game was up. I did her anyhow for the thrill of it.

[PervySage]

I was involved with Thailand for a single week every year when I went mad with drinking and fucking gogo girls and massage girls. Had amazing anal sex with two girls at once. Had girls hang out for several days at a time who would take me around the place for fun. Alas it petered out and the scene in Thailand just changed so much. The girls got more mercenary and the good times just seemed like a distant memory. I had fallen out of love with Thailand.

Then two years ago I suddenly discovered there was an amazing scene in Sydney under my nose. Japanese girls, Korean girls, Chinese girls, Viet girls. I was like a kid in a candy store. The good times were so good. Had a Jap girl that i took to Thailand with me on a holiday and we fucked like rabbits. Had two Viet girls who did anal sex and one who did ATM with swallow. OMG it was good. Tall Japanese girls who were horny, submissive and wet as fuck. Korean girls who were more beautiful than I ever thought they could be. Even an Indian girl who changed my ideas on what a beautiful girl could possibly be. Alas every good thing comes to an end. I always outstayed my welcome. The good girls are really good but they are far and few between so you want to see them more. You may not see a girl for a long while and they didn't do what you liked before, didn't look at you in the same way anymore. Always something to ruin the fun that makes punting so good. Alas today was a low point when I got told by a girl I had been seeing monthly for a year now that she no longer wanted to see me. I thought we had a connection but no. A young papasan from that place told me a long time ago never believe a working girl. Young, beautiful, fun, fickle, lazy, dumb all in the same package. It can really fuck your brain in the way these girls work but its best not waste your time trying to understand it.

Anyway I think its time take a break, save my time and money on more productive endeavours and use this as a reality check. I think there's enough memories for me to live on and I've had a wonderfull run. There is something in the rule of only seeing a girl once even if it lacks any soul. Thanks to the guys who did reviews and gave me leads on this forum.

Best of luck, you had a great run.

Everyone knows you should not get close to ML / WL but reality is its sometimes hard to do.

Some time to pause and reflect is probably no bad thing!

[liminal]

Nothing is new . We will all decide to make a mistake or make a positive choice

We all may endlessly recycle our prejudice our opinion our bias our delusion our fantasy our experience around the WL/ml.

I’ve had many variations on the theme including one cute young Thai woman who happened to be a WL. Who would take me to her room at end of a shift and we would just cuddle and sleep. I’ve had one young cute Thai woman, who would and still will meet me and we would
Just cuddle and sleep. All pleasant. All difficult all complicated. Cause I’m the central figure in the hookup.

Like many are saying or claiming not ... we are after all only human

GL sir Bryon . See you on the other side

[hornedone]

Only prob is when you date nin-WLs, the immaculate grooming standards and bald (shawn/smooth) pussy is not always evident