Coronavirus

[Climax598]

For people don't like American don't eat KFC/McDonald's. Don't see any Hollywood movies. Don't use apple/Microsoft/Android operating systems on computers/smartphone. See it both way. We are all fuckers and need each other's.

[quackm2002]

yawn - you can continue to live in your delusional world, Kowabunga. Legally responsible and claims could be in the trillions? Who is going to enforce that claim?

Btw, how many user names do you have?

[mkkid]

Setting the record straight.
Not the wonderful Chinese people or their products,
The Chinese government.

2020: CHINA IS LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR COVID-19 DAMAGE AND CLAIMS COULD BE IN THE TRILLIONS Quite a damning report against the Chinese government

… and one of many reporting similar:

Unfortunately, China’s evasions are part of the autocratic playbook, repeating its obstruction of information that worsened the SARS crisis 18 years earlier. In that case, China tried to cover up the SARS epidemic, which led WHO member states to adopt the new International Health Regulations in 2005. In both cases, China and the world would have been spared thousands of unnecessary deaths had China acted forthrightly and in accordance with its legal obligations. Although China’s public health system has been modernized, observed Jude Blanchette, head of China Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, its political system has regressed.



China did not intentionally create a global pandemic, but its malfeasance is certainly the cause of it.



https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/ch...the-trillions/


right...

and when will the US be legally responsible for the 500,000+ civilian deaths in Vietnam and the Japanese be legally responsible for 300,000+ deaths in Nanking?
and when will Australia be legally responsible for the unknown number of deaths of aboriginals during settlement?

you're opening a real can of worms here

[yug]

For those of you who have espoused such strong anti-Chinese views and you know who you are, you really need to take a long hard look at the products that you use. Most of you claim to be anti-Chinese government not anti-Chinese but the reality is that much of your ideology is dripping with racism.

Well, it’s their economy that keeps them strong and keeps them in the position they are so you should be doing everything you can to avoid supporting their economy seeing you despise that autocratic and despotic regime so much.

Start with your phone. Oh, do you have a Chinese phone? Tut-tut. Naughty. Oh, you don’t? You have an apple or a Google or a Korean phone? Sorry, I think you might have to put that under the sledgehammer. They are packed full of Chinese components.

Let’s go to your car. I suspect that’s gonna have to go under the crusher as well. Good luck finding a vehicle that does not have a single Chinese component in it.

Let’s go to your home. Dump most of your electronics and appliances immediately.

let’s go to your wardrobe. Oh, Wil has already covered that.

Your kitchen? Your garden? Your sports equipment? Hey - guess what - you’re a supporter of that autocratic and despotic regime. It’s like those pathetic Facebook posts about not buying Chinese goods - it’s not just hypocrisy. It’s actually ignorance that is at a laughable level.

You guys have a lot of similarities to those LQBTIQ clowns who espouse such woke and wonderfully sanctimonious views but continue to buy petrol to support Middle East governments who are the most brutal countries against homosexuals.

Finally, seeing you hate the Chinese so much, keep your hands off our pussy.

Those products you are telling people to dump are in fact owned by Western companies like Apple, BMW, etc.
So it may be Made in Shenzen but is still owned by Ford Motors in United States.
And even if the people were to burn those products, they would want their money back (minus the depreciation).
This was a mutually beneficial "corporate" relationship and what others and you are talking about is based on sentiments and emotions.
Doesn't work that way.

And of course, I can be critical of Chinese Government and still like Chinese people.
I have couple of Chinese friends who are good to me and I am good to them (regardless of political affiliation, opinions, etc.)
It would be unfair to treat entire population of a nation badly because of what their Government does. Just like it is unfair to label a person who is critical of a country's government action as a racist.



Finally, seeing you hate the Chinese so much, keep your hands off our pussy.


You can't say that either.
Only the one with the pussy can deny to provide the service.

Now, I am pretty sure after what I wrote you will hate me with all your might (Just an assumption).
And that's what is wrong with society today.
Everybody is quick to label one another racist, masochistic, sexist (though they have no idea who that person is).
I am pretty sure you don't give a shit but I will extend this courtesy to you and everyone else.
I will never call you or anyone racist/sexist or whatever (because clearly I do not know you as a person or ever want to know, not for any specific reason but because this is a sex forum). Unless they are being blatantly racist, which I don't think I or anyone was.

[Raybo]

For those of you who have espoused such strong anti-Chinese views and you know who you are, you really need to take a long hard look at the products that you use. Most of you claim to be anti-Chinese government not anti-Chinese but the reality is that much of your ideology is dripping with racism.

Well, it’s their economy that keeps them strong and keeps them in the position they are so you should be doing everything you can to avoid supporting their economy seeing you despise that autocratic and despotic regime so much.

Start with your phone. Oh, do you have a Chinese phone? Tut-tut. Naughty. Oh, you don’t? You have an apple or a Google or a Korean phone? Sorry, I think you might have to put that under the sledgehammer. They are packed full of Chinese components.

Let’s go to your car. I suspect that’s gonna have to go under the crusher as well. Good luck finding a vehicle that does not have a single Chinese component in it.

Let’s go to your home. Dump most of your electronics and appliances immediately.

let’s go to your wardrobe. Oh, Wil has already covered that.

Your kitchen? Your garden? Your sports equipment? Hey - guess what - you’re a supporter of that autocratic and despotic regime. It’s like those pathetic Facebook posts about not buying Chinese goods - it’s not just hypocrisy. It’s actually ignorance that is at a laughable level.

You guys have a lot of similarities to those LQBTIQ clowns who espouse such woke and wonderfully sanctimonious views but continue to buy petrol to support Middle East governments who are the most brutal countries against homosexuals.

Finally, seeing you hate the Chinese so much, keep your hands off our pussy.

Just admit it mate, your nations government want to rule the world and keep everyone under the communist hammer. Nothing wrong with the people that either put up with it or support the government.

[wilisno]

Just admit it mate, your nations government want to rule the world and keep everyone under the communist hammer. Nothing wrong with the people that either put up with it or support the government.

Every government wants to rule the world if they’re capable of ! And many have been trying if you don’t live under the rock.

That’s what we call 樹大招風 in Chinese.

BTW, I’m not Chinese and I’ve never been to China.

[moz]

The racism is crazy strong.

The reality is this diseases (like AIDS, MERS, SARS, CoVID-19) are pretty rare and no-one really knows the source.. and some (like AIDS and Polio) are very difficult to get rid of.

China made some mistakes early, but then they went hard on a solution and it seemingly worked.
Unfortunately Iran, Italy and subsequently the US (and even now Singapore) didn't see the clear lessons (go hard at lockdowns) and are now suffering.

Australia I give a mixed scrorecard too - my personal opinion is we didn't go hard enough.
Good on the early shutdown of China and Iran, and declaring it a pandemic. Bad on Italy US, and cruise ships (Ruby Princess) and mixed messages on lockdown.
Thankfully we seem to have got in early enough and are reducing the growth rate before major transmission occurs.

[tomjones]

The biggest problem I've found is that world-wide there seems to be a real deficit of quality information. This disease showed that most people just don't know what to believe and latch on the first opinion they make.

[halfway]

The racism is crazy strong.

The reality is this diseases (like AIDS, MERS, SARS, CoVID-19) are pretty rare and no-one really knows the source.. and some (like AIDS and Polio) are very difficult to get rid of.

China made some mistakes early, but then they went hard on a solution and it seemingly worked.
Unfortunately Iran, Italy and subsequently the US (and even now Singapore) didn't see the clear lessons (go hard at lockdowns) and are now suffering.

Australia I give a mixed scrorecard too - my personal opinion is we didn't go hard enough.
Good on the early shutdown of China and Iran, and declaring it a pandemic. Bad on Italy US, and cruise ships (Ruby Princess) and mixed messages on lockdown.
Thankfully we seem to have got in early enough and are reducing the growth rate before major transmission occurs.


Agree mostly with this Moz,

The rest of the world was let down from the "WHO" these fuckers were too busy kissing "CCP ass" and down playing the virus. These fuckers are the ones to blame and are a corrupt useless organisation under the wing of CCP.

[Climax598]

Agree mostly with this Moz,

The rest of the world was let down from the "WHO" these fuckers were too busy kissing "CCP ass" and down playing the virus. These fuckers are the ones to blame and are a corrupt useless organisation under the wing of CCP.
Why don't WHO fuckers kiss Donald Duck Ass? Who give over US400+ millions. How much is CCP giving to WHO rimming their Ass?

[AHLUNGOR]

Why don't WHO fuckers kiss Donald Duck Ass? Who give over US400+ millions. How much is CCP giving to WHO rimming their Ass?

The Director General of WHO Dr Tedros is from Ethiopia 🇪🇹! China paid for and built a high speed train line there worth $4 Billions a few years back !

[Climax598]

The Director General of WHO Dr Tedros is from Ethiopia 🇪🇹! China paid for and built a high speed train line there worth $4 Billions a few years back !
Like we give Indonesia a few $$$$billions What do we get? China will learn the lessons that the West have learn giving money to corrupt countries. Money don't grow on tree.

[dt333]

Well gents, came back from a week long hiatus with Corona. Probably caught it jogging along the board walk of Bondi. Symptoms wasn't too bad, just like a bad flu with fever, chills, loss of appetite, lethargic. Didn't experience shortness of breath but I'm in a low-risk age bracket without pre-existing medical conditions. Felt much better after my integrative doctor put me on an IV drip of Vitamin C, took some zinc, melatonin supplement and azithromycin tablets. Did another drive-thru swab and came out negative this time. Stay positive gents, all the best.

[kingqxxx]

Well gents, came back from a week long hiatus with Corona. Probably caught it jogging along the board walk of Bondi. Symptoms wasn't too bad, just like a bad flu with fever, chills, loss of appetite, lethargic. Didn't experience shortness of breath but I'm in a low-risk age bracket without pre-existing medical conditions. Felt much better after my integrative doctor put me on an IV drip of Vitamin C, took some zinc, melatonin supplement and azithromycin tablets. Did another drive-thru swab and came out negative this time. Stay positive gents, all the best.

Aero transmission through normal jogging. That's interesting. I thought the chance of that is extremely low. No disrespect, how can you be so sure it is not through personal contact with your favour girl?

[cuteguy]

Aero transmission through normal jogging. That's interesting. I thought the chance of that is extremely low. No disrespect, how can you be so sure it is not through personal contact with your favour girl?

If people are breathing as they jog, their air particles will stay behind for the jogger behind them to breath it in.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/coronavirus-queensland-exercise-safety/12115924

It has also been reported that being in supermarkets is risky because if someone sneezes or coughs and is not wearing a mask, the virus can remain in the air for several minutes thereby exposing unsuspecting shoppers.

https://7news.com.au/news/public-health/coronavirus-update-video-shows-how-covid-19-cough-can-spread-through-supermarket-c-967915

[quackm2002]

There have been a number of studies on this. Keep your distance from runners and even further from cyclists! Supermarkets are potentially dangerous from the perspective that the air-conditioning could keep particles hanging in the air

[Meow3000]

Interesting doco


https://youtu.be/Gdd7dtDaYmM

[rooter]

I like this video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-zotxlnz3s/?igshid=1m72b7qpl5uqb

[tomjones]

Keep safe everyone, we can do this together.

[Sanji2016]

Very funny...haha

[asheton]

Lots more cars on the roads compared with 2 weeks ago, likewise shopping centre crowds. Things are looking up.

[cuteguy]

No that could stuff things up as more people could catch it. Things will only start to change when the curve flattens for whatever the Government deems safe. This is the bad time as people will think things are getting better and go out more and take chances. That's when thing could ramp up again and really stuff things up

People should not be complacent and believe everything will be all down hill now. The virus can return as was seen in South Korea and Singapore in the form of a second wave. If it means giving up some of our freedom of movement for a short period in order to achieve a long term benefit of the virus not returning again then I'm all for it.

[rooter]

Cocaine Cassie has done well out of the Coronavirus.
She has been released early from the Colombian prison due to fears of Coronavirus outbreaks in overcrowded prisons.
She will be on parole for another 2 years or so and then I guess she can come back to Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0sId1Kct5Y

She will be able to charge top dollar if she gets back on the game.
Guys will pay big bucks to fuck the famous Cocaine Cassie, and try and get the inside full story from her.
Oh and apparently she has turned lesbian in prison and is gonna marry a Venezuelan woman.
She will get her own reality TV show. LOL!
She will be our very own Kim Kardashian

[warwick1]

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[woods23]

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Did u know this country( Denmark) asked China for help?
Like very desperately ....

[cuteguy]

Cocaine Cassie has done well out of the Coronavirus.
She has been released early from the Colombian prison due to fears of Coronavirus outbreaks in overcrowded prisons.
She will be on parole for another 2 years or so and then I guess she can come back to Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0sId1Kct5Y

She will be able to charge top dollar if she gets back on the game.
Guys will pay big bucks to fuck the famous Cocaine Cassie, and try and get the inside full story from her.
Oh and apparently she has turned lesbian in prison and is gonna marry a Venezuelan woman.
She will get her own reality TV show. LOL!
She will be our very own Kim Kardashian

She is fortunate that she has been released after serving her minimum 3 years of her sentence. Didn't she previously say that she knew nothing about the drugs but now has admitted she knew she had drugs but needed money?

Didn't she work in a brothel located in Penrith? I'm surprised she needed more money if she was working as a WL. Would guys really pay top dollar to see her? :surprise:

[rooter]

Sammy J and Mark Humphries are funny bastards.

Corona Yoga
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/sammy-j/series/3/video/LE1906V009S00

Armchair epidemiologest (it's a typo, I really can spell it!)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-09/armchair-epidemiologist-mark-humphries-gives-his/12139700

[cuteguy]

AFAIK she was 19 and worked in a MILF factory. She was paid 80$ per session.

Cassie was interviewed on 60 Minutes. She says she's become a new person now and has learnt not to trust anyone. She previously claimed she was a receptionist at a brothel called club 220. During the interview, she acknowledged working as a sex worker but didn't last long. She is engaged to a female inmate at the gaol. The 60 minutes reporter asked if she was gay but she didn't give a definite answer just to say she had previous experience with other women. It sounds like she won't be returning to her old job at the brothel.

[Raybo]

Cuteguy is my preferred internet search engine!

Haha, couldn't have said it better myself.

[BuryYourDead]

Cocaine Cassie worked at the shop around the corner from my jobsite.
It pretty rough tbh.... on the great western highway, across the road from Kingswood station.

She looks rough as guts lads.

I see Samantha X is back on the market... I would much rather goes balls deep in her infamy.

[warwick1]

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[cplurt2]

Some days it feels like the end and others are not so bad.

[Kowabunga]

Some days it feels like the end and others are not so bad.
Something worth considering.
I think I prefer Sweden's strategy.
Community regulated lock down but compulsory for at risk sectors.
Yes. A higher initial death rate.
But then it's all over ... and we can get on with p
our lives.

[Kowabunga]

Some days it feels like the end and others are not so bad.
Something worth considering.
I think I prefer Sweden's strategy.
Community regulated lock down but compulsory for at risk sectors.
Yes. A higher initial death rate.
But then it's all over ... and we can get on with our lives.

[moz]

A crapload higher death rate - both from Covid and from other things as the health system fails.

Plus there is no proof of herd immunity.
Many other coronaviruses (eg. Common cold and SARS) appear to at best give 6 months immunity

[cplurt2]

I guess orangeman wants us to inject cleaners. Smh

[Climax598]

I guess orangeman wants us to inject cleaners. Smh
Ask him to inject himself and his family first.

[Climax598]

Did you see the news today? Good grief.
Marcus Reubenstein
What news? Any link or YouTube.

[cuteguy]

AFAIK she was 19 and worked in a MILF factory. She was paid 80$ per session.

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to find some sperm and get pregnant than go through the whole process of IVF? Cassie and her Colombian lover who she met while in a Colombian prison are ready to have a baby together. She wants a family. This means no guys in her life at this stage.

[Kowabunga]

How NZ looks after sex workers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/28/dont-have-to-fight-for-pennies-new-zealand-safety-net-helps-sex-workers-in-lockdown

[Kowabunga]

An article from the Group of Eight (Go8).

These are the eight largest universities in Australia who collaborate together to provide recommendations to Dr Brendan Murphy, Australian Chief Medical Officer.

They recently provided a new set of recommendations in “A Roadmap to Recovery – A Report to the Nation”.

The recommendations came down to 2x proposed options and a 3rd rejected:

Eliminate the illness;
May stay in tight lockdown till near the end of June.
Suppress the illness to a low level and manage it;
Lifting of restrictions could start in mid May.

… and a rejected option:
Allow the epidemic to run through the population in a way that does not overwhelm the healthcare system. Some have called this approach “herd immunity.”

https://www.scribd.com/document/458781789/Group-of-Eight-s-Roadmap-to-Recovery-report

[quackm2002]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-all-the-mistakes-the-united-states-has-made-in-its-response-to-the-pandemic/news-story/8e1ac00f5074ed0a1cc6466a73e0e3cb

Author must be a Chinese plant, huh?

[Kowabunga]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-all-the-mistakes-the-united-states-has-made-in-its-response-to-the-pandemic/news-story/8e1ac00f5074ed0a1cc6466a73e0e3cb

Author must be a Chinese plant, huh?
I don't think so. USA response in all this has been calamitous. Considering it was regarded as the best country in the world to handle a pandemic prior to this.
There are significant numbers of commentators that are critical of the USA's handling of this pandemic. Before and during.
The pandemic has exposed a lot about what is wrong with their country.
Too many to list here ... but consider how stupid Trump has been. There's a very good Scottish word to describe him: a "cockwomble".

[Climax598]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-all-the-mistakes-the-united-states-has-made-in-its-response-to-the-pandemic/news-story/8e1ac00f5074ed0a1cc6466a73e0e3cb

Author must be a Chinese plant, huh?
The Chinese don't have to plant anything. The American fuck themselves up.

[quackm2002]

I think I was being facetious

[rooter]

Trade war!
"China, you have banned our barley exports. In retaliation we will ban your WL exports!"
Hang on a second that's a lose, lose for us. That's not good.
Ok, how about this "OK China you won't import our barley, so we won't import those Great Wall cars. Let's face it they are pretty shit cars anyway".
But please, please, please let us import your WLs.
The Japanese WLs are cuter and more genuine, and the Korean WLs are more pretty and glamorous, and the Thai WLs are more exotic looking and wild. But we still need the Chinese WLs.
They are the bread and butter of punting in Sydney, and sometimes the jam and honey too. And sometimes the caviar!.
"Oh and China to sweeten the deal and to show our good faith we will give you the following people (our best and brightest) to keep as hostages until this is resolved. Pauline Hanson, Jacqui Lamby, George Christenssen, Tony Abbott, Ray Hadley, Andrew Boult, Alan Jones, Sarah Hanson-Young, Adam Brandt, Eva Cox, David Marr, Joel Creasey, Josh Thomas, Anna Gatsby, Shannon Noll, 5 Seconds of Summer, David Littleproud, Vicky Xu, Iggy Azalea, John Farnham, Sonia Kruger, Ray Price, George Calombaris, Melissa Leong.
To all the China fans, relax, I am just having a laugh here. Please don't get upset.

[quackm2002]

You forgot that stupid cow, Concetta Fierravanti-Wells

[rooter]

Ah yes. Didn’t she win Eurovision? :)

[AHLUNGOR]

While most of us here are celebrating and counting down the arrival of 1 July........

Spare a thought for the rest of the world, it was only on the 8 June the worldwide Covid19 infections reached 7 million. Today it just went over 8 million! That’s one million extra cases in a week !

If it doesn’t slow down , by the time we reached 1 July, the total cases could be 10 million, far out !

Australia indeed has done so well , we bloody better not stuff this up.

[boater]

Australia indeed has done so well , we bloody better not stuff this up.

Yep, it would really suck to get this far and fall at the last hurdle.

[happyspider]

Yep, it would really suck to get this far and fall at the last hurdle.
Totally agree bros..we have done well!!! Will be interesting in 2 weeks to see whether the protest in town had any affect of spread...???? Hope not!!!!

[toilet33]

Reviving the thread. We are now seeing spikes in cases in VIC and some unknown community transmission in NSW. I'm still trying to decide to go back to punting (ML) or to keep isolating due to this period of cases popping up again, especially with the recent protests.

Brothers, are you all back in full force? Or still waiting to see how the infections numbers go (and wait for our fav MLs to come back to work)?

[birch]

I'm being pretty cautious. Mostly seeing my regular ML, who I know is meticulous and for the first time since COVID I tried a local shop on the weekend as I couldn't escape for long enough to see my regular. I was pleased to see my local check for temperatures, offered hand sanitiser to me as least 3 times and ML didn't tempt me too much! But I still managed to enjoy her services!

[birch]

Was doing some rough numbers after watching the news last night. The latest Vic outbreak currently involves ~120-odd cases / day. Each ~10 cases has just one host of COVID so this transmission rate is over double the normal community transmission. You definitely don't want to be hanging out in big or small groups of strangers. It seems the Victorian family gatherings have been sharing food / kisses/ hugs or something to double the risk of transmission.

[AHLUNGOR]

I'm being pretty cautious. Mostly seeing my regular ML, who I know is meticulous and for the first time since COVID I tried a local shop on the weekend as I couldn't escape for long enough to see my regular. I was pleased to see my local check for temperatures, offered hand sanitiser to me as least 3 times and ML didn't tempt me too much! But I still managed to enjoy her services!


Anyone wearing masks during a RnT session ?

[birch]

no, not that I've seen, at least.

[tpol]

I wonder if any VIC W/L or M/L are coming to NSW to work soon.

[tpol]

Anyone wearing masks during a RnT session ?

Does Glad Wrap count?

[toilet33]

Was doing some rough numbers after watching the news last night. The latest Vic outbreak currently involves ~120-odd cases / day. Each ~10 cases has just one host of COVID so this transmission rate is over double the normal community transmission. You definitely don't want to be hanging out in big or small groups of strangers. It seems the Victorian family gatherings have been sharing food / kisses/ hugs or something to double the risk of transmission.

Yes, close proximity with anyone not living in your household poses the risk as not all of the population have been tested and so many don't have symptoms. All it takes is someone to infect an ML/WL, then it spreads very quickly. Hopefully we can protect our ML/WLs!

[boater]

Was doing some rough numbers after watching the news last night. The latest Vic outbreak currently involves ~120-odd cases / day. Each ~10 cases has just one host of COVID so this transmission rate is over double the normal community transmission. You definitely don't want to be hanging out in big or small groups of strangers. It seems the Victorian family gatherings have been sharing food / kisses/ hugs or something to double the risk of transmission.

120 cases a day in Vic?
Where did you get that from?

Australia wide it is abut 30 a day and most of which are in Victoria. Take out the hotel quarantine cases and we are below 20. The 'source unknown' sits at just 24 for the last week across the whole of Oz.

So where do you get 120 a day?

[tpol]

120 cases a day in Vic?
Where did you get that from?

Australia wide it is abut 30 a day and most of which are in Victoria. Take out the hotel quarantine cases and we are below 20. The 'source unknown' sits at just 24 for the last week across the whole of Oz.

So where do you get 120 a day?

It wasn't 120 a day. It was # active cases

"Victoria recorded 19 new cases of coronavirus on Sunday, bringing the number of active cases there to 121. It follows four days of double-digit growth."

[boater]

It wasn't 120 a day. It was # active cases

"Victoria recorded 19 new cases of coronavirus on Sunday, bringing the number of active cases there to 121. It follows four days of double-digit growth."

Ah, so why say "~120-odd cases / day"?

[Sir Puntalot]

Was doing some rough numbers after watching the news last night. The latest Vic outbreak currently involves ~120-odd cases / day. Each ~10 cases has just one host of COVID so this transmission rate is over double the normal community transmission. You definitely don't want to be hanging out in big or small groups of strangers. It seems the Victorian family gatherings have been sharing food / kisses/ hugs or something to double the risk of transmission.

This is why I'm not punting in Melbourne at the moment, too much of a risk and hate to explain how I potentially got infected to the boss at home!

[halfway]

How stupid are the people running this show ?

It took far too long for the 14 day Hotel quarantine to start and it has been very successful, however if you test positive during your 14 days in the hotel you are simply told to go home and self isolate ... WTF

That was the main reason for bringing in the Compulsery 14 day lock up. Those people who are flying into the country and testing positive should be kept in iso until they are clear.It's not rocket science.

[GoldfishMan]

Yes, close proximity with anyone not living in your household poses the risk as not all of the population have been tested and so many don't have symptoms. All it takes is someone to infect an ML/WL, then it spreads very quickly. Hopefully we can protect our ML/WLs!
Does "being tested" confer immunity to the virus?
I may sound like a wet blanket, but it has to be said. This whole message of "we've tested millions of people and that's how we beat the COVID", is just governments trying to bring calm to the general population. Australia are doing it, so were China, Korea, etc. It is dangerous and gives a false sense of security.
Just use common sense... Someone getting tested and being negative today could be infected tomorrow. I know it's all based on probability etc, but it just means that the whole idea of testing figures being a source of security is fake. That's the unfortunate truth!
Now we see the folly of this tactic showing in the "second waves" in China and Korea. Is it really a second wave, or did the first wave never finish?

[Budgyboy]

I think pleck the doomsayer is back as tpol

[AHLUNGOR]

I think pleck the doomsayer is back as tpol


Mate, Brother tpol is one of us foundation members !

[toilet33]

Does "being tested" confer immunity to the virus?
I may sound like a wet blanket, but it has to be said. This whole message of "we've tested millions of people and that's how we beat the COVID", is just governments trying to bring calm to the general population. Australia are doing it, so were China, Korea, etc. It is dangerous and gives a false sense of security.
Just use common sense... Someone getting tested and being negative today could be infected tomorrow. I know it's all based on probability etc, but it just means that the whole idea of testing figures being a source of security is fake. That's the unfortunate truth!
Now we see the folly of this tactic showing in the "second waves" in China and Korea. Is it really a second wave, or did the first wave never finish?

Yeah, it sounds like political speak, not what we need now. It makes the government look good compared to other countries, but gives a false sense of security to the public, causing them to flaunt distancing requirements and attend high risk events.

[moz]

Is it really a second wave, or did the first wave never finish?

But that's the definition of 2nd wave

This virus is difficult to totally eliminate given asymptomatic carriers and overseas returnees (per the Vic hotel security staff).

The 2nd wave is when you take your foot off the restrictions - allow family gatherings, protests, bars/ restaurants, but the virus is still there in the background, and then boom 10+ cases.

[tpol]

I think pleck the doomsayer is back as tpol

Nah, been around yonks as ALG mentioned.

I'm just a little worried that some Victorians may travel north and screw up NSW's progress with Covid and we need to go back to lockdown.

Although the last 3 months was an experience in self enlightment, I don't really want to go through it again.

I miss my friends, ml and wls !

Actually, I wouldn't mind if NSW closed it's borders to VIC.

[wilisno]

Yeah, tpol was here before Pleck was born ! ;) ;) ;)

[Raybo]

Yeah, it sounds like political speak, not what we need now. It makes the government look good compared to other countries, but gives a false sense of security to the public, causing them to flaunt distancing requirements and attend high risk events.

I really dislike how state and federal governments compare themselves to other states and countries, patting themselves on the back saying how good a job they have done to contain the virus.....it's not a competition.

[wilisno]

I really dislike how state and federal governments compare themselves to other states and countries, patting themselves on the back saying how good a job they have done to contain the virus.....it's not a competition.
If you ask them why they treat it as a competition, they’ll say “ Ask China “ ;) ;) ;)

[tpol]

Yeah, tpol was here before Pleck was born ! ;) ;) ;)Actually, I'm from the future. I was born I 2088

[tpol]

And if ahlungor ever met me, he'd go nuts

[AHLUNGOR]

108 cases in Victoria today, we have become the leper's of Australia.

Mate, yeah, 107 cases in one day is a big concern coming back from a near flat lined curve !

But put things into perspective, there were 188,831 new cases in the world yesterday! The top three countries were USA (44K), Brazil (35K) and India (24K) ! Respectively.

Yes, it’s 107 too many especially with cases coming out from those supposedly quarantine hotels which were quite unnecessarily and totally unacceptable. But let’s do what we know we can do best and push it back down, a bit of pain no doubt but we know it will pass if everyone work together.

Surely, aren’t we grateful that we have a more capable and reliable government as well as a much better health systems - and better people all round. Enough said ?

Let’s just be very careful out there, and enjoy the footy !

Cheers

[cuteguy]

The Brazilian president was denying the existence of covid-19 and stating it was just a minor flu symptom. He was demanding people not wear masks. Maybe he wanted many homeless and poor people to perish in the slums. He got it. Serves him right!

[cuteguy]

The WLs in Germany are having it tough during this covid-19 pandemic. They were protesting because they were not being allowed to work despite Germany being open for business. If the states in Australia didn't allow WLs and brothel owners to trade I wonder whether they would be protesting on the streets just like German WLs and brothel owners.

[quackm2002]

How long before the shops in Sydney are closed again?

[wilisno]

How long before the shops in Sydney are closed again?

When one case is traced back to a brothel...

[troubledsoul]

When one case is traced back to a brothel...

Maybe brothels should have safety barriers like Coles and Woolies in the form of glory holes to combat the spread?

[Sir Puntalot]

Maybe brothels should have safety barriers like Coles and Woolies in the form of glory holes to combat the spread?

There was a glory hole shop near Chadstone in Victoria, licensed brothel but never visited

[Climax598]

When one case is traced back to a brothel...
Only if you tell or covid-19 app tracing or the shop have it

[cuteguy]

When one case is traced back to a brothel...

A punter is not going to reveal to health authorities that he was at a brothel.

[Mill88]

Only a matter of time probably. Just read Melbourne is fining punters going to massage parlours.

[Strayer Mate]

and Tokyo has now just gone to Level 4 alert after covid hotspots have been detected amongst sex workers in the red light district ... cue Gladys and her puritan brigade...

[cuteguy]

and Tokyo has now just gone to Level 4 alert after covid hotspots have been detected amongst sex workers in the red light district ... cue Gladys and her puritan brigade...

Victoria is close to moving to Level 4 and the way it's going, it might need to if it is to eliminate the spread. New Zealand took this action and it was successful until some UK traveller brought the virus with him when he entered the country just a few days ago.

[altvmla]

New Zealand took this action and it was successful until some UK traveller brought the virus with him when he entered the country just a few days ago.

NZ have a similar system we have, forced 14 hotel quarantine upon arrival so that case would've been contained.

[Mill88]

Anyone deciding to take a break in Sydney at the moment?
Are any of the shops in Sydney taking register of visitors? I saw that pubs clubs etc now have to do that.

[frankyang]

Not going to be taking a break yet but keeping an eye on the situation - can go either way at this point.

[Mill88]

Not going to be taking a break yet but keeping an eye on the situation - can go either way at this point.

Yeah I guess thats what everybody is doing. Just watching.

[mulanbaby]

Is virus getting worse? More people getting the virus now :spook:
Maybe stop working soon ...

[quackm2002]

Maybe not a bad idea, mulanbaby. The risk is increasing daily. I think that the authorities will move to close shops again soon anyway.

[Awqjoq]

Enjoy every punt as if it's your last for a while

[Meng]

Enjoy every punt as if it's your last for a while

I certainly will Hahahaha.

[Peterpecker]

Brisbane punt a few days ago. Name and address or email and mobile number have to be recorded. Yes I gave a false email and mobile number. Hand sanitiser everywhere, no chair in room, spa shut. Everything else was as per usual. More expensive than Sydney but at least it's happening and hopefully will continue to happen. Emma at Skyangel if you are wondering. Listed as Chinese said was Korean but I suspect Chinese because the service was good! Very enthusiastic and nice C/D falsies done under the armpits. CBJ was superb.

[brotherjim]

NZ have a similar system we have, forced 14 hotel quarantine upon arrival so that case would've been contained.

They were given an exemption to go a funeral in Wellington. Luckily they didn’t infect anyone.

[rooter]

NZ have a similar system we have, forced 14 hotel quarantine upon arrival so that case would've been contained.

Our system here in Australia was working really well and we were down to pretty much eradication (if you define eradication as no local transmission) . But then the Victorian government put a bunch of Third World peasants in charge of hotel quarantine Security, and that's when the whole thing went downhill. If they had the Police, Army, Border Security in charge we would not be in this situation we are now in.

[Meng]

Our system here in Australia was working really well and we were down to pretty much eradication (if you define eradication as no local transmission) . But then the Victorian government put a bunch of Third World peasants in charge of hotel quarantine Security, and that's when the whole thing went downhill. If they had the Police, Army, Border Security in charge we would not be in this situation we are now in.

Do you have a specific nationality in mind in terms of “third world peasants”? Interesting to see what your classification is in terms of race.

[moz]

If they had the Police, Army, Border Security in charge we would not be in this situation we are now in.

Your local (10 wks at the academy) cop would have little more training in PPE than these security guards.

The big difference in Vic is they allowed 'guests' to have accompanied fresh air and cigarette breaks.
In the other states you were to remain in the room for 14-days, even if no balcony or openable window

[God Member]

They caught it off the hotel inmates and then carried it back to the large family gatherings at the end of ramadan.

[Niceguy11]

I'm just watching the news and looks like cases are popping up everywhere in Western Sydney. Hopefully the shops don't close again.

[chemistry84]

We are probably going to have another lockdown and I would be very hesitant to go to a shop right now, especially when the same girls are working day in and day out.

[Meng]

They caught it off the hotel inmates and then carried it back to the large family gatherings at the end of ramadan.

Isn’t fornication a sin lol?

[Climax598]

Isn’t fornication a sin lol?
What sin? Is nature calling. What a man have to do man have to do. The woman must be very horny during the lockup.

[Meng]

What sin? Is nature calling. What a man have to do man have to do. The woman must be very horny during the lockup.
Bro I’m all for fornicating. God member mentioned that the guards all go home to their family for Ramadan. In Islam, I’m fairly certain fornication or extramarital sex is a sin.

[cuteguy]

They caught it off the hotel inmates and then carried it back to the large family gatherings at the end of ramadan.

I wonder what their wives said after they contracted the virus off their husbands. Divorce time?

[Poonhound69]

They caught it off the hotel inmates and then carried it back to the large family gatherings at the end of ramadan.

Seriously, is that how it all started? Security guards resident in those low income apartment blocks that were working as security guards at hotels, fucked/ interacted with infected travellers, went back to those crowded apartment blocks after work and infected the folks there, who in turn spread it in the city during work etc, and voila.

[God Member]

Yes, that is right. Everyone already knows. The genome of the new viral spread has been analysed and it comes from those overseas quarantine hotels. The only reason they are having a judicial enquiry not due to end until September is to decide exactly whose heads will roll. And also to conveniently put off the press interrogating Dan Andrews.

[God Member]

I'll tell you something else funny, in a literally sick kind of way. The security firm that got the contract to guard the hotels took the government money, then sub-contracted work to cheaper, even dodgier firms and pocketed the difference. It started dodgy, and then got more dodgy. Fuck me.

[sydpunt]

That is right. The “proper” firm put up a good company front with all the proper insurance, training, etc. that tick all of the boxes under government procurement rules. But will insert their right to subcontract if they dont have enough capacity; and subcontract to dodgy firm with no insurance and underpay staff. Pocket the difference without having to do any work.

[birch]

They may not have to do any work but they can’t absolve themselves from their liabilities. They have blood on their hands now and a judicial enquiry will provide little wriggle room to escape that liability.

[Meng]

They may not have to do any work but they can’t absolve themselves from their liabilities. They have blood on their hands now and a judicial enquiry will provide little wriggle room to escape that liability.

Knowing our judicial system they will give them a slap on the hand and a little fine and they’ll be free to walk.

[cuteguy]

I'm just watching the news and looks like cases are popping up everywhere in Western Sydney. Hopefully the shops don't close again.

It would be difficult to see the shops closing in NSW unless everyone starts coming down with the virus. The governments are using the suppression rather than the elimination method since the latter would require complete lockdown while suppression would still allow the economy to be running despite cases popping up. That is, it's business as usual but everyone would need to abide by social distancing guidelines.

[Poonhound69]

It would be difficult to see the shops closing in NSW unless everyone starts coming down with the virus. The governments are using the suppression rather than the elimination method since the latter would require complete lockdown while suppression would still allow the economy to be running despite cases popping up. That is, it's business as usual but everyone would need to abide by social distancing guidelines.

And that is the best and most realistic approach until there is a vaccine.

[studsg]

Everyday we are seeing new cases pop-up around NSW in new suburbs. Started south spreading north. I wonder if every suburb gets cases of infection. Do they close suburbs or the whole NSW ? [emoji848]

[Dm231]

At least nsw is better than vic ... bit worried about my ski trip booked in august though

[kaos]

not looking good for victoria at the moment.... might take a few months for that situation to come under control....fingers crossed all goes well in Vic, and NSW too

[rooter]

Looks like NSW has dodged the covid bullet again.
Figures have been in the teens for over a week now.
NSW will definitely not be another Victoria.
There is no big spike happening in NSW.

[cuteguy]

At least nsw is better than vic ... bit worried about my ski trip booked in august though

As long as you don't go to any parties you should be fine. Last Friday, police busted a party involving up to 100 people in a national park near Jindabyne in the Snowy Mountains, with many receiving fines for breaching coronavirus restrictions. It appears the message about social distancing is not getting through to some people!:anger:

[Riff888]

Serious question; does anyone on this forum know anyone that has Covid 19?

I don't know anyone in Australia that has it and I have heaps of family in Melbourne.

I have only heard of 2 people who are friends of family members over in Canada.

I've done the Covid test but am getting a sore throat so might do it again.

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[rooter]

Serious question; does anyone on this forum know anyone that has Covid 19?

I don't know anyone in Australia that has it and I have heaps of family in Melbourne.

I have only heard of 2 people who are friends of family members over in Canada.

I've done the Covid test but am getting a sore throat so might do it again.

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Chances are no.
Australia has a population of 25,000,000 people and there are a few thousand people that have caught it.

[Ozzy83]

I had a friend that had it in nsw. Was supposedly really bad too and took a very long time to get over it completely.

[cuteguy]

I had a friend that had it in nsw. Was supposedly really bad too and took a very long time to get over it completely.

Was your friend in ICU?

[Ozzy83]

Didnt go into hospital but told me it was far far worse then any cold.

[cuteguy]

Didnt go into hospital but told me it was far far worse then any cold.

It affects people in different ways. Some can get over quickly while others take longer to recover. People with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems are at greater risk of more serious illness if they are infected with the virus.

Just out of interest, international studies suggest those with blood type A are more at risk, but experts say further evidence is needed. Findings from Chinese researchers indicated that people with type A blood might be more susceptible to contracting the virus, while those with type O blood may be more protected.

[Ozzy83]

Yeah have heard about the type a and type o blood aswell. Will be interesting to see when more research is done on the subject. Most people seem to get over it pretty quickly tho and only mild symptoms.
Ive been hesitant the last couple of weeks to go punting because of the latest new cases in nsw.

[Bose0412]

Can someone explain this to me,
You go to a pub or a restaurant and gathers 50plus new cases. Not one case from a massage shop or brothel.. would you tell authorities you got it from a happy shop? Or deny deny deny ?

[Climax598]

I would deny I being to happy shop. Have anyone know if any girl got covid or the shop is hiding it? It just doesn't make sense you can get infected at Cafe,/pub/restaurant but not happy shops??????

[kaos]

Can someone explain this to me,
You go to a pub or a restaurant and gathers 50plus new cases. Not one case from a massage shop or brothel.. would you tell authorities you got it from a happy shop? Or deny deny deny ?

i had been wondering about this as well - the ethical thing to do is to say you'd been to a shop and identify the girl you were with, but the part of me that doesn't want this part of my lifestyle exposed would be tempted to deny everything.

It does feel that it's been out of sheer luck that no punter or WL/ML has been officially diagnosed. Can you imagine the immediate set of contacts that would be exposed - 1 WL/ML or punter, their clients (X per day for up to 14 days?), WL/ML/client colleagues and family.....yeesh!

[boater]

Can someone explain this to me,
You go to a pub or a restaurant and gathers 50plus new cases. Not one case from a massage shop or brothel.. would you tell authorities you got it from a happy shop? Or deny deny deny ?

The difference is the numbers involved.
The amount of people vising brothels is a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people going to church / pubs / restaurants.
You can be 10 or even 100 times more likely to catch it from an infected person in a commercial sexual setting than a social one, but when looked at from the "whole of society" level churches / funerals / pubs / clubs / restaurant will still dominate.

As to telling a contact tracer if I had been to a sex-on-premises establishment, yes of course I would.
If a brothel or massage parlor has an infected worker (it is unlikely given the numbers, but in this scenario that ship has sailed) then we are all at high risk of the cases exploding.

When I went to 42 they wanted my number and I gave it to them without an issue.

If clients are unwilling to do that honestly, then that is a good reason to shut the industry down again.
We are utterly dependent on the contact tracers to stay safe.
Victoria is an illustration of what can go terribly wrong when someone who is infected gets out into the community without knowing it.

[wilisno]

The difference is the numbers involved.
The amount of people vising brothels is a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people going to church / pubs / restaurants.
You can be 10 or even 100 times more likely to catch it from an infected person in a commercial sexual setting than a social one, but when looked at from the "whole of society" level churches / funerals / pubs / clubs / restaurant will still dominate.

As to telling a contact tracer if I had been to a sex-on-premises establishment, yes of course I would.
If a brothel or massage parlor has an infected worker (it is unlikely given the numbers, but in this scenario that ship has sailed) then we are all at high risk of the cases exploding.

When I went to 42 they wanted my number and I gave it to them without an issue.

If clients are unwilling to do that honestly, then that is a good reason to shut the industry down again.
We are utterly dependent on the contact tracers to stay safe.
Victoria is an illustration of what can go terribly wrong when someone who is infected gets out into the community without knowing it.

Haha ! cuteguy said punters won’t reveal the shops ! ;) ;) ;)



A punter is not going to reveal to health authorities that he was at a brothel.

[AHLUNGOR]

Don’t under estimate the effects of any out break clusters! Just look at the Cross Road Hotel and Thai Rock restaurant ! BTW, the Thai Rock at Potts Point (same owner!) also had a staff tested positive last night so the spreading is real and dangerous!

So if there is any MLs or WLs or Punters who is unwell or has come into contact with any positive cases or high risks areas , you really should stay away, for everyone’s sake !!

Let’s be very careful out there !

[Niceguy11]

The difference is the numbers involved.
The amount of people vising brothels is a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people going to church / pubs / restaurants.
You can be 10 or even 100 times more likely to catch it from an infected person in a commercial sexual setting than a social one, but when looked at from the "whole of society" level churches / funerals / pubs / clubs / restaurant will still dominate.

As to telling a contact tracer if I had been to a sex-on-premises establishment, yes of course I would.
If a brothel or massage parlor has an infected worker (it is unlikely given the numbers, but in this scenario that ship has sailed) then we are all at high risk of the cases exploding.

When I went to 42 they wanted my number and I gave it to them without an issue.

If clients are unwilling to do that honestly, then that is a good reason to shut the industry down again.
We are utterly dependent on the contact tracers to stay safe.
Victoria is an illustration of what can go terribly wrong when someone who is infected gets out into the community without knowing it.

That's what I was thinking as well, more chance of getting it at pubs, clubs and restaurants. When I did my shopping last week, it was packed full of people.

[Climax598]

All you need is a punter infected to visit a Ml/Wl to infect the girls working in the shop and punters visiting the shop.

[quackm2002]

Hope I am wrong but in my view, shops are going to be closed again. It’s only a matter of time.

[boater]

Hope I am wrong but in my view, shops are going to be closed again. It’s only a matter of time.

If, as cuteguy says, punters won't reveal they have been to a brothel, then yes sex-on-premises shops will need to be closed down.
If we won't follow the rules then we don't get to play.

[AHLUNGOR]

ABC news just announced there were 723 new cases overnight in Victoria.

I think there is no other option but go for a complete lock down to stop the spreading !

[mulanbaby]

ABC news just announced there were 723 new cases overnight in Victoria.

I think there is no other option but go for a complete lock down to stop the spreading !

我的天！
感觉要悲剧了 :cry:

[avnyyy]

Yea after the huge increase in Vic today.... restrictions in syd are bound to stricken. Not takin any risks.... just gotta suck up the blue balls for now!


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[God Member]

Here are the the 19 year olds who have caused the virus breakout in Qld.

https://i.postimg.cc/mrwjjDMh/Covid-girl-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/yxwyxSqp/covid-girl-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
I prefer the natural looking one, but both look like they could suck a mean cock - mine! :shout:

[Travelmate]

ABC news just announced there were 723 new cases overnight in Victoria.

I think there is no other option but go for a complete lock down to stop the spreading !

13 dead toll as well

[CountryPunter]

Here are the the 19 year olds who have caused the virus breakout in Qld.

https://i.postimg.cc/mrwjjDMh/Covid-girl-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/yxwyxSqp/covid-girl-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
I prefer the natural looking one, but both look like they could suck a mean cock - mine! :shout:

Which one is the natural one? Lol

[studsg]

Here are the the 19 year olds who have caused the virus breakout in Qld.

https://i.postimg.cc/mrwjjDMh/Covid-girl-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/yxwyxSqp/covid-girl-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
I prefer the natural looking one, but both look like they could suck a mean cock - mine! :shout:Both faces look like they have undergone cosmetic surgery ???

Surely they will be famous after this. Maybe even replace the Kardashians ? Who will be their Kanye ? [emoji13]

[walsta]

With the current situation n in Sydney, it does seem a bit sketchy to continue punting.

I've been to a few places since the lockdown eased and it seems that most of these places don'y do a proper clean after session. Most they would do is pack the tissues and change the sheet of paper cover.
Considering how busy they've been, I don't really see them wasting 10mins after each sess for a proper wipedown

[walsta]

With the current situation in Sydney, it does seem a bit sketchy to continue punting.

I've been to a few places since the lockdown eased and it seems that most of these places don't do a proper clean after session. Most they would do is pack the tissues and change the sheet of paper cover.
Considering how busy they've been, I don't really see them wasting 10mins after each sess for a proper wipedown

[God Member]

Here's the third girl from the virus trio - she didn't catch it.

https://i.postimg.cc/gcqytPDh/217430f1573bf3809b7f3ed69c8bdd12.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
They are all pretty good looking. That's all that matters in today's world doesn't it? :miao:

Another picture of the original covid girl.

https://i.postimg.cc/bJ0n5QQP/ef2f6d278b55d05faf0e151b64134416.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Man, there's definitely be a market for her on E and B. Then she'd have no need to pinch expensive handbags - she'd be able to buy them! :miao:

[wilisno]

Haha ! I wouldn’t say she’s got a market on syd99 punters ! ;) ;) ;)

[Truthteller]

Dun mind people doxxing those guilty of covid breakers but this could backfire someday on posters lol

[Raybo]

Old mate Chopper chiming in on the Karen/Bunnings saga.

https://youtu.be/rzRzL8T03Ao

[wilisno]

*CONTEMPORARY KIDDING*

����*♂- Not even in my wildest dreams did I imagine myself entering a Bank, wearing a mask and asking for money.

✋������- Never thought my hands will one day consume more alcohol than my liver...ever!

��- Quarantine seems like a Netflix series...just when you think it is over, they release the next season.

��- I’m starting to like this mask thing...went to the supermarket and two people that I owe money to didn’t recognize me.

��- Who was complaining that 2020 didn’t have enough holidays...now what?

��- I need to social distance myself from my fridge; I tested positive in excess weight!

��*��*��*��- Can someone tell me if the 2nd quarantine will be with the same family...
or we can change?

��- In just two weeks we will hear if there still two more weeks to let us know that two more weeks of quarantine are needed...

⏳- I’m not planning adding this 2020 to my age...I didn’t even use it!

��- We want to publicly apologize to the year 2019 for all the bad things we said about it.

����*♀- To all the ladies that were praying for their husbands to spend more time with them... how are you doing?

��- My washing machine only accepts pajamas...I put a pair of jeans and a message came “stay home”!����

��- If I see anyone on December 31 crying for this year ending, I will use a bottle on their head!

��- After all that we have been through, the only thing missing is that the vaccine will be available only in suppository form.

��*������*��- I feel like a teenager... no money in my wallet, hair long and out of control, thinking what to do with my life, and grounded home.

Smile, release stress, and be safe! ������
❤❤❤

[altvmla]

With the current situation n in Sydney, it does seem a bit sketchy to continue punting.



I feel that, I'm super pent up but we seem to be at a knife edge. Really don't want to risk it considering the long term effects appear to be lung scarring and brain damage, not to mention the potential to pass it onto others...

[cuteguy]

Melbourne is finally in complete lockdown (stage 4) with a nightly curfew in place from 8pm to 5am due to increased community to community transmission. Many cases of unexplained transmission where health officials were unable to track down the original source for many infected cases. The lockdown means people are not allowed to travel more than 5 kms from their homes. I guess brothels and massage shops will have to close in Melbourne.

[Climax598]

Melbourne is finally in complete lockdown (stage 4) with a nightly curfew in place from 8pm to 5am due to increased community to community transmission. Many cases of unexplained transmission where health officials were unable to track down the original source for many infected cases. The lockdown means people are not allowed to travel more than 5 kms from their homes. I guess brothels and massage shops will have to close in Melbourne.
Maybe the unable to track down the original source come from Happy shops?

[cuteguy]

Anything is possible. Some people might dismiss it but seriously, would a punter reveal he went to a brothel after being asked to report his whereabouts to health officials? I know where I would be placing my bet.

[studsg]

Melbourne is finally in complete lockdown (stage 4) with a nightly curfew in place from 8pm to 5am due to increased community to community transmission. Many cases of unexplained transmission where health officials were unable to track down the original source for many infected cases. The lockdown means people are not allowed to travel more than 5 kms from their homes. I guess brothels and massage shops will have to close in Melbourne.It's interesting that the CovidSafe App found a few ppl in NSW infected through its contact tracing abilities. But found none in Victoria at all even with the high number of infected.

Maybe a good business venture to sell aluminium cone hats in Victoria, seems ppl are against any form of measures, even if it's to save lives [emoji848]

[Tiankou]

Maybe the unable to track down the original source come from Happy shops?

I don't think happy shops in VIC have been reopen since lock down.😁

[mulanbaby]

The bat changed the world!!!

[studsg]

The bat did indeed change the world... Now the world is trying to find the bat.

British scientist believe Covid19 original granddaddy was circulating around Sep 2019

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-outbreak-september-not-wuhan-1498566?amp=1

France finds Covid19 was there in Nov 2019

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/new-evidence-in-race-to-find-frances-covid-19-patient-zero-c-1041604.amp

Italy finds Covid19 in their sewer since Dec 2019

https://amp.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid19-was-there-in-december-2019/news-story/2fd865f7b12a33698f3e9ab2f15a35e3

But because China was the very first country that didn't choose like the other countries to just classify the cases as pneumonia and instead investigated and correctly identify a new strain of SARS virus has been found. They are the bad guys...

[warwick1]

The bat did indeed change the world... Now the world is trying to find the bat.

British scientist believe Covid19 original granddaddy was circulating around Sep 2019

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-outbreak-september-not-wuhan-1498566?amp=1

France finds Covid19 was there in Nov 2019

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/new-evidence-in-race-to-find-frances-covid-19-patient-zero-c-1041604.amp

Italy finds Covid19 in their sewer since Dec 2019

https://amp.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid19-was-there-in-december-2019/news-story/2fd865f7b12a33698f3e9ab2f15a35e3

But because China was the very first country that didn't choose like the other countries to just classify the cases as pneumonia and instead investigated and correctly identify a new strain of SARS virus has been found. They are the bad guys...

You really are a card holding member of the CCP, I suppose you think the moon landing did not happen or 9 11 was caused by the Jews or the CIA.......

[AHLUNGOR]

The Hong Kong people will All be tested for Covid in a join operation with the support health team from China, so that’s a 7 million people mass testing.

全民測試！

They are using a mixed testing method like grouping 10 people’s samples at a time and do the 1 test, if negative , move on, if positive then retrieving the details of the 10 people and test them again individually. Save a lot of time and resources. That’s how they used to test the entire population in Wuhan and most recently Beijing. So testing 7 millions is like testing 700K.

That’s how you can find out all the virus carriers and infected people with no symptoms and preventing them from keep spreading it into the community. May be something the Victorian Government should consider ?

[zucon]

The Hong Kong people will All be tested for Covid in a join operation with the support health team from China, so that’s a 7 million people mass testing.

全民測試！

They are using a mixed testing method like grouping 10 people’s samples at a time and do the 1 test, if negative , move on, if positive then retrieving the details of the 10 people and test them again individually. Save a lot of time and resources. That’s how they used to test the entire population in Wuhan and most recently Beijing. So testing 7 millions is like testing 700K.

That’s how you can find out all the virus carriers and infected people with no symptoms and preventing them from keep spreading it into the community. May be something the Victorian Government should consider ?

Must say that’s very smart. Learning for others

[God Member]

Grouping ten samples and only testing one and if that one is negative move on to the next batch of ten? What if one of the other nine not tested are positive? I don't get how that works.

[AHLUNGOR]

Grouping ten samples and only testing one and if that one is negative move on to the next batch of ten? What if one of the other nine not tested are positive? I don't get how that works.

When they mixed the 10 samples together, they will all be inter transmitted (meaning 1 positive sample will basically infected all the rest instantly!) so if any one of the 10 samples is positive, the whole batch will be positive !

Unless they are ALL negative, then they move on ! Still, this process is 10 times faster than testing individually .

[God Member]

When they mixed the 10 samples together, they will all be inter transmitted (meaning 1 positive sample will basically infected all the rest instantly!) so if any one of the 10 samples is positive, the whole batch will be positive !

Unless they are ALL negative, then they move on ! Still, this process is 10 times faster than testing individually .

Thanks Ah Lungor I get it now. They put ALL the spit and snot together from all ten into one beaker and test that disgusting mixture. If negative, no worries. If positive, contact the group of ten from the revolting infected beaker. I wonder who the smartie who thought that up is.

Even upping the numbers to groups of one hundred would work compared to the contact tracing they have to do now involving many thousands.

I'm so sick of reading bad news out of Hong Kong, this at least is a bit of good news.

[God Member]

That brings up another point. Last time I read, the serum labs here were charging $200 per test. This was their amount to test for this or that before the pandemic.

Despite the huge uplift in testing scale the ****'s have kept it at this price. They are making super profits from the pandemic at the expense of the taxpayer when so many are suffering financially and the nation is sinking in debt. It is absolutely unconscionable and the government needs to put pressure on them to reduce the price. Kick the greedy ****'s up the arse.

Who doesn't reduce the unit price if someone who usually buys 10 is now buying 1000?

What dope buying them doesn't ask for a reduction?

31,000 tests conducted in NSW x $200ea = $6,200,000 just in the past 24 hours.

And this has been going on for months, with months still to go.

It is just a lab and a machine. Once they are bought, and a few crumbs in tehnician wages, the rest is pure profit. It is just a service fee, no capital outlay to produce it.

We should be doing the Hong Kong method and mixing the samples into batches of ten and testing only once. Even then they'd still be making a bomb out of us.

[studsg]

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12283202

Australia, specifically Health authorities in Vic already know about this approach.

My guess is that what works in China may not here. Wuhan to test 11million ppl setup popup test centre in every neighbourhood, every factory and go door to door to test the elderly and ppl who are unable to travel down to the test centres. Results are sent to the person's smart phone. Their objective was to identify any asymptomatic carrier so they can be quarantined and stop the spread.

That may not work here. As many ppl dun wanna be tested. As we can see from the news many asymptomatic carriers in Vic are still going around, hence why stage 4 was necessary. Highly doubtful stage 4 will work. It may bring numbers down temporarily.

China is aiming for eradication when they find ppl or areas infected, those infected would be whisked away to separate quarantine sites until they are clear of the virus, not even home isolation. AU strategy is different. Just trying to keep the number low. And allow a slow spread across the community, which is like embers, anytime another large fire will happen again and again.

I feel the pain of AU healthcare frontline members and understand why the AMA wants to push for a change in strategy to eradication instead. Just look at the number of frontline members getting infected by the constant flow of infected ppl and the lack of N95 or full ppe gear for the frontline health members.

[God Member]

I'm not saying to test whole populations. Keep the same number of tests but mix ten samples together and test that. We'd save 90% on testing fees and stop being ripped off during a pandemic.

[studsg]

I'm not saying to test whole populations. Keep the same number of tests but mix ten samples together and test that. We'd save 90% on testing fees and stop being ripped off during a pandemic.I believe in the old saying. "When there is a will, there is a way."

Our authorities are not lack of info in terms of methods and approaches out there. But if there is no "will" to drive towards that goal, they not gonna get there.

[toilet33]

Just a quick revival. I wanted to find out from the senior brothers if they have resumed punting in today's lower coronavirus infection numbers in NSW. I want to get back in after a 8 month break, but not sure how the situation is like now.

[trampslikeus55]

Just a quick revival. I wanted to find out from the senior brothers if they have resumed punting in today's lower coronavirus infection numbers in NSW. I want to get back in after a 8 month break, but not sure how the situation is like now.
The stats say you have more chance being killed in a motor vehicle accident. Be cautious, yes. But enjoy your life. You will be a long time gone soon enough😎

[boater]

Just a quick revival. I wanted to find out from the senior brothers if they have resumed punting in today's lower coronavirus infection numbers in NSW. I want to get back in after a 8 month break, but not sure how the situation is like now.

I started again when it was legal, and always leave my name and contact number in case contacts need to be traced.

[Starved]

I would worry about what happens with my contact details and I start getting annoying spam texts & emails

[God Member]

Trump should have got onto one of the phase three vaccine trails as a sensible precaution. By phase three stage (30,000+ people) any adverse risk possibility is extremely low. Eg. there haven't been any attributed to the vaccine in all of the phase three trials. Whereas the risk of him getting it in the huge campaign circles he moves in was very high.

[wilisno]

Trump should have got onto one of the phase three vaccine trails as a sensible precaution. By phase three stage (30,000+ people) any adverse risk possibility is extremely low. Eg. there haven't been any attributed to the vaccine in all of the phase three trials. Whereas the risk of him getting it in the huge campaign circles he moves in was very high.

He better tries it now, he’s just been tested positive !

[Raybo]

He better tries it now, he’s just been tested positive !

Vaccine too late for him now!!!

[Climax598]

Vaccine too late for him now!!!
He should try the Chinaaa! Vaccine see if it work.

[cuteguy]

Trump should have got onto one of the phase three vaccine trails as a sensible precaution. By phase three stage (30,000+ people) any adverse risk possibility is extremely low. Eg. there haven't been any attributed to the vaccine in all of the phase three trials. Whereas the risk of him getting it in the huge campaign circles he moves in was very high.

He thought he was immune to the virus and downplayed it as just being flu when the virus appeared. Well, he has it now and so does his wife. I wonder what his supporters are thinking now.

[sporty32]

Nobody really knows when this nightmare will end!!!

[wilisno]

He might just want to postpone the election...

[drunk-as-a-punk]

He might just want to postpone the election...


I reckon he will win because of it. He'll be able to say that the doc's cured him and brag about how strong he is. Dominate the news without having to be in the public eye.
If he doesn't speak, he can't say anything stupid that will cost him the election.

[irvingyoung]

U saw dad retard got COVID?hahaha

[Dettol]

I reckon he will win because of it. He'll be able to say that the doc's cured him and brag about how strong he is. Dominate the news without having to be in the public eye.
If he doesn't speak, he can't say anything stupid that will cost him the election.

That’s absurd. The entire country is looking at yet another blunder and he is now basically the symbol of the failure of his administration to get this virus under control.

Yet for some reason I don’t believe he has the mental capacity nor maturity to accept this and goes back to being himself and deny facts as soon as he recovered

[AHLUNGOR]

He might just want to postpone the election...

The US Constitution won’t allow any delay on a Presidential election : not even during the times of Civil War. It will proceed as planned.

[doctorspock]

Its a stunt guys, its a delay tactic, the war in the South China sea is imminent. Be prepared guys😷

[Vader]

The US Constitution won’t allow any delay on a Presidential election : not even during the times of Civil War. It will proceed as planned.

Congress has the power to change the election date.

[wilisno]

The HongKong government is giving out a $5000 prize to anyone tested positive to coronavirus to encourage more people to go for testing ! ;) ;) ;)

[AHLUNGOR]

The HongKong government is giving out a $5000 prize to anyone tested positive to coronavirus to encourage more people to go for testing ! ;) ;) ;)

More like a wages compensation? As once you are tested positive you will need to be quarantined for 14 days therefore can’t work and no income. I think it’s a good and responsible policy.

[wilisno]

More like a wages compensation? As once you are tested positive you will need to be quarantined for 14 days therefore can’t work and no income. I think it’s a good and responsible policy.

They said the purpose is to flush out the invisible virus carriers. Instead of issuing fines for not getting tested when I’ll, they reward them ! ;) ;) ;)

While in Adelaide one worker like that brought the state into lockdown and caused the employer a lot of troubles.

[rooter]

The HongKong government is giving out a $5000 prize to anyone tested positive to coronavirus to encourage more people to go for testing ! ;) ;) ;)

This could backfire really badly.
Some poor desperate people could just go out there doing all the wrong things to deliberately get infected.
Especially if they are young and healthy.

[Starved]

Could still help anyway as they would have a lead with contact tracing

[AHLUNGOR]

This could backfire really badly.
Some poor desperate people could just go out there doing all the wrong things to deliberately get infected.
Especially if they are young and healthy.

While this subsidy is not mean tested, there are some qualifications you have to meet: you will be tested positive after 22/11, admitted into a government hospital, do not get paid sick leaves from your employer and actually can show loss of income due to your sickness. So if you are currently unemployed, hence no loss of income and you won’t get the money.

Cheers

[Jamie187254]

With 3 vaccines now reporting the results from successful phase 3 trials and showing high efficacy, it is getting more likely that the worst effects of this pandemic will be over by the middle of next year. Some countries including the UK are rolling out vaccines during December and January at least to priority groups. And they are preparing for vaccine rollout here in Australia during 1st quarter of 2021.

So, hopefully some of the restrictions that COVID has placed on us all will start to recede :-)

[Ragefrog]

So, hopefully some of the restrictions that COVID has placed on us all will start to recede :-)

https://theconversation.com/vaccines-alone-wont-keep-australia-safe-in-2021-heres-what-else-we-need-to-do-152078

Although I am still being optimistic that the vaccines would reduce the death rate, however I suspect that it will be like the common cold and flu which need regular/ annual jab to keep away from different strains of COVID-19 mutations.

[boater]

One of the places visited by at least 1 of the people diagnosed with COVID in on the Sydney Northern Beaches visited



6
Avalon
Barramee Thai Massage and Spa
Monday, 14 December, 2-3.30pm



Anyone who has attended is considered a close contact and should get tested and isolate for 14 days even if they receive a negative result

see: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/two-new-covid-19-cases-found-on-sydney-s-northern-beaches-20201216-p56o40.html

[manjuice333]

Over-hyped pandemic.

We should never have let the government assumed this much power and control over our daily lives.

[warwick1]

Over-hyped pandemic.

We should never have let the government assumed this much power and control over our daily lives.

Over hyped, really, you sir should plant your empty head back up your arse................

[azza1234]

Hmmmm, lets hope this gets under control quickly

[moz]

You only need to look at the US to see what could have happened had our governments not reacted

[Joe1956]

Had plans to visit a Brookvale establishment but think that is one for the New Year now!!!
Well done NSW btw. We’ve been very lucky so far

[bobbi-stretch]

Lets hope this cluster in contained quick!

[spaniel77]

One of the places visited by at least 1 of the people diagnosed with COVID in on the Sydney Northern Beaches visited



6
Avalon
Barramee Thai Massage and Spa
Monday, 14 December, 2-3.30pm



Anyone who has attended is considered a close contact and should get tested and isolate for 14 days even if they receive a negative result

see: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/two-new-covid-19-cases-found-on-sydney-s-northern-beaches-20201216-p56o40.html

I wonder if that spa is now closed or ... I don't even want to start thinking.

[Yougottabe]

Over-hyped pandemic.

We should never have let the government assumed this much power and control over our daily lives.
Ok tell us how the USA are going then?

[Climax598]

Over-hyped pandemic.

We should never have let the government assumed this much power and control over our daily lives.
Go to Trumpland have fun with covid 19 or go to UK have fun with mad dog Boris.

[DanThePuntingMan]

NSW premier just announced another 30 confirmed cases of Covid-19. Bringing the current total to 69 from yesterday 39 confirmed cases.

[Assandlegs]

Dragged from another thread:

I predict that we will be in a fairly solid lockdown because the Northern Beaches cluster is now at 38 and will become exponentially higher in a short time ...
Social distancing had become a joke and everyone is trying to starburst for the holidays.
I think we'll be lucky to be able to stick our head out of a window, let alone go for a punt. I used to be a glass half full guy but people keep doing stupid shit without thought or care for others.
Anyway, enjoy your punt while you can, keep safe, think with your big head - not your little head and try and get through Christmas before we think about the fires/floods/storms that will happen in the new year.

Merry fucking Syphilis... err..Christmas......

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[rooter]

We are in an excellent position in Australia compared to the rest of the world.
A combination of being lucky we are remote island and also the early action of authorities closing down the borders in February/March.
Coronavirus in the community has been pretty much zero in all of Australia for months now.
The only way a pandemic could start again is from overseas arrivals.
So you would think the strategy would be pretty simple.
Control overseas arrivals. Limit entry to specific categories and have a very strict quarantine system in place.
But the authorities have fucked up again.
They didn't post security or cops to stop flight crew leaving their hotel rooms, they just relied on them staying in the hotel.
Anyone who knows the culture of flight crew male and female knows that these people are party people.
There was no way they were gonna stay in their hotel room, have a beer and packet of chips from the mini bar and watch the cricket on TV. Of course they were gonna take advantage of being in Sydney, a city with few limitations compared to where they have come from and go out and party, shopping, bars, cafes etc.
So here we are again with another outbreak.
Hopefully we will be able to contain it quickly.

[quackm2002]

Looks like we have a disciple of Qanon in our midst! Don’t bother trying to reason with him. He probably believes that a secret race of lizard people rule this earth

[Albwick]

I wonder if that spa is now closed or ... I don't even want to start thinking.

Legit shop or rnt? I wonder if the girls work at other locations, that would see it pop up very quickly...or maybe not since people might not get tested. Would be hard to explain how you got covid if your outside the NB

[Raybo]

One of the places visited by at least 1 of the people diagnosed with COVID in on the Sydney Northern Beaches visited



6
Avalon
Barramee Thai Massage and Spa
Monday, 14 December, 2-3.30pm



Anyone who has attended is considered a close contact and should get tested and isolate for 14 days even if they receive a negative result

see: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/two-new-covid-19-cases-found-on-sydney-s-northern-beaches-20201216-p56o40.html

They traced someone back to 14th December between 2pm and 3.30pm.

For those who want to check the many venues, times and what you should do, go here.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/latest-news-and-updates

I am confident the government is on top of the breakout through contract tracing and local council lockdown, even though they haven't quite located where the breakout came from.

[cuteguy]

This virus is too smart to outsmart. It will be in our community for a long time. If people become too complacent then it will come back to bite us. If we drop our guard and let in international arrivals without having them quarantine then it will reappear. In Thailand, there was a recent outbreak near Bangkok which was traced back to Myanmar migrant workers. The problem for most low risk countries is dealing with international arrivals or where there is no proper screening for covid19.

[God Member]

The dominant strain in London now is a mutation that is 70% more infectious and transmissable. It has a 70% advantage over the original strain in exploiting the food source - us. At a 70% competitive advantage it is inevitable that this strain will take over.

[lonely heart]

Legit shop or rnt? I wonder if the girls work at other locations, that would see it pop up very quickly...or maybe not since people might not get tested. Would be hard to explain how you got covid if your outside the NB

To make it worse many girls simply don't care. I know this ML who work two days in North Shore. She is not close to me but I see her many times so we know each other well. Just out of good heart and remind her better go get a test as she get so many north customers. Got scream back and call me crazy. Well I know I wouldn't be seeing her for a while!!


They didn't post security or cops to stop flight crew leaving their hotel rooms, they just relied on them staying in the hotel.
Anyone who knows the culture of flight crew male and female knows that these people are party people.
There was no way they were gonna stay in their hotel room, have a beer and packet of chips from the mini bar and watch the cricket on TV. Of course they were gonna take advantage of being in Sydney, a city with few limitations compared to where they have come from and go out and party, shopping, bars, cafes etc.
So here we are again with another outbreak.
Hopefully we will be able to contain it quickly.

This is the few occasions that I can reply and agree with you.

[Raybo]

To make it worse many girls simply don't care. I know this ML who work two days in North Shore. She is not close to me but I see her many times so we know each other well. Just out of good heart and remind her better go get a test as she get so many north customers. Got scream back and call me crazy. Well I know I wouldn't be seeing her for a while!!



This is the few occasions that I can reply and agree with you.

North Shore ain't Northern beaches dickhead. Geography 101

[Climax598]

North Shore ain't Northern beaches dickhead. Geography 101
Next Door from NB. Too close. so interchange.

[lonely heart]

North Shore ain't Northern beaches dickhead. Geography 101

30 mins drive and the area she work is the first suburb with multiple establishment. Where you think all the horny dicks in northern beach go when all they can access locally is overpriced in/out. I bet you don't even know the demographic of customer in north shore.

[AHLUNGOR]

With only 4 sleeps to Xmas, you can’t blame the rest of the country all closing the border to NSW, no State government can afford to take the risk for ruining its own festive seasons . If NSW has new cases, shut it down so that the rest of the country could have a decent Xmas, so be it, right ?

The next couple of days would be critical, a bloody total lockdown and cancel Xmas like motherland England or retaining some sort of festivity, it’s in the hands of the All Mighty !

Good luck to us all .

Go Sydney !!

[wilisno]

With only 4 sleeps to Xmas, you can’t blame the rest of the country all closing the border to NSW, no State government can afford to take the risk for ruining its own festive seasons . If NSW has new cases, shut it down so that the rest of the country could have a decent Xmas, so be it, right ?

The next couple of days would be critical, a bloody total lockdown and cancel Xmas like motherland England or retaining some sort of festivity, it’s in the hands of the All Mighty !

Good luck to us all .

Go Sydney !!

It’s really sad. Imagine how the small businesses will suffer, thousands of bookings cancelled, it could have poured billions into the Queensland economy !

[cuteguy]

30 mins drive and the area she work is the first suburb with multiple establishment. Where you think all the horny dicks in northern beach go when all they can access locally is overpriced in/out. I bet you don't even know the demographic of customer in north shore.

Many MLs work not at one establishment but many. For instance, a ML may work in the Northern Beaches area and then she may work in the west or City CBD. She can spread the virus without knowing it and probably won't get tested because she will fear being asked which areas she visited in case she has been working more than 20 hours per week on a student visa.

[DirtyLurker]

Many MLs work not at one establishment but many. For instance, a ML may work in the Northern Beaches area and then she may work in the west or City CBD. She can spread the virus without knowing it and probably won't get tested because she will fear being asked which areas she visited in case she has been working more than 20 hours per week on a student visa.

100% agree but it’s not just an issue now, existed previous to this outbreak as well

[Raybo]

30 mins drive and the area she work is the first suburb with multiple establishment. Where you think all the horny dicks in northern beach go when all they can access locally is overpriced in/out. I bet you don't even know the demographic of customer in north shore.

I said you don't know the difference between the North Shore and the Northern Beaches. I bet you are a cheap arse cunt that women loathe to see. In fact, I know. Yet, you walk away, claiming victory......I despise you cunt. You are everything about punters that I hate.

[annintofu]

Over-hyped pandemic.

We should never have let the government assumed this much power and control over our daily lives.

is manjuice333 one of those restless mindless backpackers crowding Bronte Beach?

[spaniel77]

Oh freak. They're going around perhaps cross contaminating. And the new strain that we have atm shows no symptoms til about the 4th or 5th day so they could have it and pass it on without knowing.

Good luck boys.

[cuteguy]

Oh freak. They're going around perhaps cross contaminating. And the new strain that we have atm shows no symptoms til about the 4th or 5th day so they could have it and pass it on without knowing.

Good luck boys.

Didn't they find the English strain in Adelaide and the South African one in Queensland from returned Aussies living overseas? Both strains are very contagious. If we don't keep our borders closed and have everyone who arrives here go into hotel quarantine that is managed by the police, we will never defeat this virus and it will keep affecting our lives and our economy for a long time. As for those backpackers who attended Bronte Beach to celebrate Xmas despite restrictions, just reckless idiots who don't care about anyone else besides themselves. If the Australian government decides to cancel their visas and be deported then they deserve it.

[aussiegaigin]

I see the government is starting to mandate the use of the Service NSW QR code for check in at "entertainment venues" and hairdressers, in lieu of the private systems. Wonder if this will extend to our shops?

[cuteguy]

Oh freak. They're going around perhaps cross contaminating. And the new strain that we have atm shows no symptoms til about the 4th or 5th day so they could have it and pass it on without knowing.

Good luck boys.

Didn't they find the English strain in Adelaide and the South African one in Queensland from returned Aussies living overseas? Both strains are very contagious. If we don't keep our borders closed and have everyone who arrives here go into hotel quarantine that is managed by the police, we will never defeat this virus and it will keep affecting our lives and our economy for a long time. As for those backpackers who attended Bronte Beach to celebrate Xmas despite restrictions, just reckless idiots who don't care about anyone else besides themselves. If the Australian government decides to cancel their visas and have them deported then they deserve it.

[Kwinko]

Gonna have to QR code for a massage soon enough

[Ragefrog]

Gonna have to QR code for a massage soon enough

I guess, hospitality businesses are progressively made to implement NSW Service app for contact tracing.

[spaniel77]

I guess, hospitality businesses are progressively made to implement NSW Service app for contact tracing.

Even so. Men always evolve. They'll find a way to hide their identity somehow. Not sure how yet. But people get creative.

[warwick1]

I see the government is starting to mandate the use of the Service NSW QR code for check in at "entertainment venues" and hairdressers, in lieu of the private systems. Wonder if this will extend to our shops?

It should do, its the "ideal" place for spreading bugs.........

[Albwick]

It should do, its the "ideal" place for spreading bugs.........

Also punters do travel far and wide to see their fav's.
Then you have the girls who live outside of the suburbs they work, so you that aspect to deal with.

However, either its been pretty clean, or no punter has actually gone to get tested and if positive mentioned oh i was at this place on friday.....or we have a lot of contact tracing trying to find mickey mouse and Donald duck that is now infected.

[AHLUNGOR]

We finally got a mandate for mask wearing in public transport, shopping centres and all hospitality venues - it’s about bloody time, I couldn’t understand why it took so long for Gladys and Dr Chant to action.

[Ragefrog]

We finally got a mandate for mask wearing in public transport, shopping centres and all hospitality venues - it’s about bloody time, I couldn’t understand why it took so long for Gladys and Dr Chant to action.

My understanding and observations, so far:

Australia, like many other Western countries, wasn’t prepared for COVID-19. Unlike Singapore, Japan, Hong Kong , and Taiwan where they have law in place to self produced mask in large quantities in virus outbreak; this is from previous lessons learnt from SARS.

When the outbreak happened, everyone noted that almost the world supply of medical PPEs are made in China; to make the situation worst, all overseas (Mainland) Chinese and Chinese affiliated companies are buying up medical PPEs are mailed / shipped back to China. i.e. even Bunnings and other hardware stores that sell N95 dusk mask are also out of stock. This left extremely limited stocks medical PPEs for hospitals use, almost none for the general public.

Public Health official’s initial recommendation was: “ “Don’t put masks on, because we’re going to be taking them away from health care workers.” The strategy was to reduce people-to-people contact by limiting general public movement, stay home unless essential travel is necessary. Unfortunately, that understandably got interpreted as: “we didn’t think masks were of any benefit.”

This COVID-19 is not going away anytime soon, there will be waves after waves of transmission. Public Health officials also noted that ‘locking’ people up for long periods will increase mental health problems due to lack of human socializing and/or leads to complacent which makes lock-down no longer an effective strategy to control COVID-19 transmission. With the stock of medical PPEs ( including surgical masks) return to normal supply as well as abundant more available to general public which can be purchased from supermarkets, pharmacies, and of cos Bunnings; the Public Health official message is then changed to request for general public to wear mask. It is up to the local government to manage their recommendation, i.e to mandate or not.

Local government also has to consider the impact to the economy, as lock-down is not sustainable; sooner or later people have to interact, going on with their daily life, conduct businesses, etc. Therefore, not a surprise to make everyone to wear masks when out in public place.

[rooter]

We finally got a mandate for mask wearing in public transport, shopping centres and all hospitality venues - it’s about bloody time, I couldn’t understand why it took so long for Gladys and Dr Chant to action.

If you haven't already, then buy a box of masks today, before all the shortages and price rises, and profiteering starts.

[GoldfishMan]

If you haven't already, then buy a box of masks today, before all the shortages and price rises, and profiteering starts.
I don't think that's going to happen, bro rooter. Masks will not sell out more than they already were before the mandate. The reason is, just having a mandate in place will not suddenly make people be afraid of the virus and start using masks properly. Those who did not care about wearing masks will simply do it "just for show". They will likely buy ONE mask, and continuously reuse the same one.

[fud]

Was at Cotton-On today, their reusable masks have already sold out. Uniqlo still have them on the racks

[cuteguy]

Also punters do travel far and wide to see their fav's.
Then you have the girls who live outside of the suburbs they work, so you that aspect to deal with.

However, either its been pretty clean, or no punter has actually gone to get tested and if positive mentioned oh i was at this place on friday.....or we have a lot of contact tracing trying to find mickey mouse and Donald duck that is now infected.

I'm surprised too that there has been no mention of any shops during this whole pandemic of restrictions and lockdowns. Would any punters reveal to health officials that they were at a particular shop if they were told they were infected? Probably not.

We all know that both punters and girls move around. Both MLs and WLs can see many customers in a day not knowing that one of them may be infected with covid19 without knowing it. Many MLs work at various shops and at various locations. Some WLs work in locations that are away from their homes in order not to be recognised by friends or other college students. They need to travel and use the public transport system or take UBER or cabs. It's no wonder that trying to track the actual source of any infections will be a difficult task if you consider the above.

[drifter]

I know someone (Team Leader) in the contact tracing team. Would be awkward trying to explain my whereabouts. Lol.

[spaniel77]

I know someone in the Contact Tracing team too...

[Joe1956]

Going to be a quiet couple of weeks at the shops. That QR code is a killer.
Some ongoing intell would be appreciated

[tpol]

I thought a Thai massage shop had a case so they must've contact traced the ppl who visited that establishment

[rooter]

I thought a Thai massage shop had a case so they must've contact traced the ppl who visited that establishment

They will be trying to find Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Bugs Bunny. Lol!

[GallBall2203]

I don't think that's going to happen, bro rooter. Masks will not sell out more than they already were before the mandate. The reason is, just having a mandate in place will not suddenly make people be afraid of the virus and start using masks properly. Those who did not care about wearing masks will simply do it "just for show". They will likely buy ONE mask, and continuously reuse the same one.

I don’t think we will have a shortages of mask this time around, but I do think that disposable surgical masks will increase in price. The Uniqlo masks are a good option for reusable masks as they actually have a filter unlike regular cloth masks, and they are machine washable. I work at Uniqlo and masks were flying off the shelves. We sold over 1000 packs of 3s by 3pm yesterday which was 80% of our stock. But there shouldn’t be a shortage because we are receiving more stock tomorrow. Stay safe out there brothers.

[Albwick]

I wonder if we could do a poll, have people vote

1. Still go, use app.
2. Put a hold on punting
3. Go private
4. Circumvent the process and still go (aka Mr Bugs Bunny)

One thing, the app does not work on older phones (Androids running older OS), so you can then circumvent it by giving a burner mobile as they need to fill in your details via paper/sign you up and later you get an SMS.
Might be time to use the old Nokia 3210e again!

[GallBall2203]

I wonder if we could do a poll, have people vote

1. Still go, use app.
2. Put a hold on punting
3. Go private
4. Circumvent the process and still go (aka Mr Bugs Bunny)

One thing, the app does not work on older phones (Androids running older OS), so you can then circumvent it by giving a burner mobile as they need to fill in your details via paper/sign you up and later you get an SMS.
Might be time to use the old Nokia 3210e again!

I actually wouldn’t mind using the app. I assume everything should be confidential so in the case where they contact for contact tracing, it should be alright?

[Dark_nanon]

I actually wouldn’t mind using the app. I assume everything should be confidential so in the case where they contact for contact tracing, it should be alright?

It *should* be alright but there is always that small chance something could get hacked/leaked. That being said, I am using the app every where I can so this would not change much for me.

[God Member]

I read that the mutated strain is 50% to 70% more infectious. In simple terms that means for every ten people infected by the original strain, 15 or 17 will catch the new one. In other words, it is a mathematical certainty that the new one will take over

It reminds me of the scene in Titanic where the designer of the ship had its blueprints out and was calcualting the amount of water being taken in by the breaches in the hull and announced it was a mathematical certainty that the ship would sink. (btw, he was one that made it off the ship.)

Because the original strain is so infectious it gave it that much more opportunity to improve its efficiency. Every new human was one more opportunity to experiment in improvement. So the 70% more infectious one gives it 70% opportunities to become even more infectious. The vaccine is the only thing that will reduce the virus's opportunties to improve itself.

[cuteguy]

I read that the mutated strain is 50% to 70% more infectious. In simple terms that means for every ten people infected by the original strain, 15 or 17 will catch the new one. In other words, it is a mathematical certainty that the new one will take over

It reminds me of the scene in Titanic where the designer of the ship had its blueprints out and was calcualting the amount of water being taken in by the breaches in the hull and announced it was a mathematical certainty that the ship would sink. (btw, he was one that made it off the ship.)

Because the original strain is so infectious it gave it that much more opportunity to improve its efficiency. Every new human was one more opportunity to experiment in improvement. So the 70% more infectious one gives it 70% opportunities to become even more infectious. The vaccine is the only thing that will reduce the virus's opportunties to improve itself.

Given the new mutated strains from UK and South Africa, the Australian government is considering closing borders to all travellers from these countries. If it has to be done then there is no choice. As long as we keep the borders closed then we won't have virus clusters popping up. Western Australia is doing well because their borders are closed while NSW is allowing people to arrive given that Sydney is the gateway to the rest of Australia. The only way the virus will set foot here is from returning travellers or airline crew once there is no local transmission in the community.

[tpol]

I don't think an Australian citizen should be denied entry back into Australia.

Maybe they should create a bubble whereby all ppl providing services to turned travellers are also in the bubble.

But like fly in fly out workers

Cleaners, healthcare workers, police, adf who are rostered works abd isolates in the bubble for say 3 weeks. Then they have 2 weeks off in the bubble and tested. Then they have how many weeks off outside the bubble before coming back in.

They should get paid well as well.