Speculation about opening timeline for shops

[qwertymanno1]

Just wondering if there's a word out when the govt would allow the shops to open? If not, what do you guys think they would do so? Would be nice to know the timeline. Tbh, really missing Ginza .. mostly cuz I can't afford the outcalls.

[johnny]

Can’t see FS shops opening any time soon. Massage I’m gonna guess..... 2-3 weeks?? 🤷*♂️

[itouch]

Good news is, beauty salons will be allowed to open from 1st June. That sheds some lights to the RnT even FS joints I guess.

[johndough]

I’m so surprised that more RNTs haven’t reopened under the remedial massage guise. I guess they’re too scared about getting raided and busted. Wouldn’t be easy to pick a cop from a punter. Fuck half the cops probably are lol

[aussiegaigin]

Just wondering if there's a word out when the govt would allow the shops to open? If not, what do you guys think they would do so? Would be nice to know the timeline. Tbh, really missing Ginza .. mostly cuz I can't afford the outcalls.

How many threads do we need to discuss this?

[rooter]

Here are the generous odds I published on another thread in early May for when brothels will re-open:

May 500/1
June 12/1
July 5/1
August 10/1
September 20/1
October 50/1
November 100/1
December 200/1
2021+ 100/1

August at 10/1 is bloody good odds. Get in quick and have a bet.

[asheton]

June 1st will see a proliferation of RNT based parlours with the doors open, mark my words.

[Raybo]

June 1st will see a proliferation of RNT based parlours with the doors open, mark my words.

Yeah, I am seeing shops starting to advertise it. I think this lobby group put together by brothels will also put pressure on the government to fast track their reopening sooner rather than later as well. The government is keen to get everything back up and running.

[cuteguy]

Here are the generous odds I published on another thread in early May for when brothels will re-open:

May 500/1
June 12/1
July 5/1
August 10/1
September 20/1
October 50/1
November 100/1
December 200/1
2021+ 100/1

August at 10/1 is bloody good odds. Get in quick and have a bet.

Place your bets. The fillies are about to run. Sounds like a bet on the horses. Lol

[krnboy]

Spoke to a ML shop owner and said she will open when stage 3 eases. Not because of law but she has to pay rent. Not enough customers will be coming in to cover rent. I would imagine most ML shops will be like that

[johnconnor69er]

Put me down for a $20 on September. Fund a punt for that month if she gets up. Problem is by then I will be so horny will be punting all month :)

[NC3]

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[NC3]

Just wondering if there's a word out when the govt would allow the shops to open? If not, what do you guys think they would do so? Would be nice to know the timeline. Tbh, really missing Ginza .. mostly cuz I can't afford the outcalls.

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Hi qwertymanno1 ... remedial massage from 1st of June.

[scanboy]

Hey I really can’t find any clarification that massage parlours are allowed to open or not in NSW from June 1
I have heard from a couple of my regular shops and they say they will be opening
Will they be breaking the rules or not?

[TheMaestro]

Yeah, I can't seem to find anything to suggest June 1 will make much of a difference.

[aussiegaigin]

Good news is, beauty salons will be allowed to open from 1st June. That sheds some lights to the RnT even FS joints I guess.

I can't see any connection at all. Nail/beauty salons are probably more aligned with hairdressers, which haven't been closed.

[johnny]

Remedial massage is allowed to open on June 1 so I guess many RnT joints will be calling themselves remedial. Who’s going to prove that what they’re doing isn’t ‘remedial’ ?!

[AHLUNGOR]

Remedial massage is allowed to open on June 1 so I guess many RnT joints will be calling themselves remedial. Who’s going to prove that what they’re doing isn’t ‘remedial’ ?!

Yeap, it’s worth a try :

Healthcare
Healthcare products and services
If you need health care, call ahead if you have any symptoms or are feeling unwell.
You can also access healthcare products and services from health care providers such as a
chemist
doctor
hospital or medical centre
physiotherapist
remedial or therapeutic massage service provider.

[Climax598]

Remedial massage is allowed to open on June 1 so I guess many RnT joints will be calling themselves remedial. Who’s going to prove that what they’re doing isn’t ‘remedial’ ?!
As long as the license or registering of business say is 'remedial'. Some have open for a few weeks. One at my area have open for 3 weeks but not as busy as before. My regular text me say she is working from tommorow as a 'remedial'.

[brotherjim]

You can bet it will be one of the last things to open seeing as it is one of the most riskiest activities in relation to social distancing.

[aussiegaigin]

As long as the license or registering of business say is 'remedial'. Some have open for a few weeks. One at my area have open for 3 weeks but not as busy as before. My regular text me say she is working from tommorow as a 'remedial'.

Many of the RnT shops I frequent advertise as being "remedial massage" so that is not a guide.

[TheMaestro]

Many of the RnT shops I frequent advertise as being "remedial massage" so that is not a guide.

I wonder if Li's Chinese Therapy Clinic Maroubra is open?

[aussiegaigin]

I wonder if Li's Chinese Therapy Clinic Maroubra is open?

You referring to "The dungeon"?

[Climax598]

Many of the RnT shops I frequent advertise as being "remedial massage" so that is not a guide.
Not advertised as remedial but license that why some can open.

[TheMaestro]

You referring to "The dungeon"?

That is the one!! An icon of Maroubra. One of Sydney's Seven Wonders!!

[Poonhound69]

Remedial and therapeutic massage places have been open for a few weeks already. I'm wondering when the legit oil massage places will open up, I'm hoping June 1st or near that time frame.

[aussiegaigin]

That is the one!! An icon of Maroubra. One of Sydney's Seven Wonders!!

Well, it does leave one wondering before and after a visit. And sister shop in Kensington would be the eighth!!

But Cici is so charming.

[Raybo]

It's close. 1st June, no reason for an RnT shop masquerading as a legit massage shop can't do trade. Guess it comes down to how tight and smart the operators play.

[aussiegaigin]

That is the one!! An icon of Maroubra. One of Sydney's Seven Wonders!!

Quite by coincidence I saw the boss today in the shopping centre and she said "open in two weeks".

[TheMaestro]

Quite by coincidence I saw the boss today in the shopping centre and she said "open in two weeks".

That is music to my ears bro aussiegaigin, let the fun begin! All sorts of naughtiness happens in that dungeon!!

[suka02]

Quite by coincidence I saw the boss today in the shopping centre and she said "open in two weeks".

are they doing any incall? you mean open in 1st june?

[TheMaestro]

are they doing any incall? you mean open in 1st june?

Assuming opening the shop as normal which would infer an incall type situation. Officially the are an establishment offering "Traditional Chinese Therapy" which is a loose term in this geo-sexual environment.

[Awqjoq]

Don't think I'll risk going to any asian massage joints that open on Monday straight away - give it a week or 2 and see if any get busted first

[aussiegaigin]

That is music to my ears bro aussiegaigin, let the fun begin! All sorts of naughtiness happens in that dungeon!!

I walked past today, the two front doors were partly opened, and I caught some activity inside. Perhaps cleaning up. I'll check again on Weds, but she did
say next week.

[suka02]

I walked past today, the two front doors were partly opened, and I caught some activity inside. Perhaps cleaning up. I'll check again on Weds, but she did
say next week.

yup, i went pass there too today. front door open, back closed. I ring up no one picking up.
I believe they not open yet, maybe they were planning floor plan procedure or doing cleaning method when it opens.

[NC3]

Remedial massage is allowed to open on June 1 so I guess many RnT joints will be calling themselves remedial. Who’s going to prove that what they’re doing isn’t ‘remedial’ ?!

johnny ... not only calling themselves remedial ... their license is for remedial massage.

[Climax598]

johnny ... not only calling themselves remedial ... their license is for remedial massage.
Yep correct, today I visited one and have part 2 from a young milf. All good. I look at the licence and massage training on display at the reception wall.

[rooter]

When you see that anatomical chart with all the acupressure points hanging on the wall then that's your guarantee that it's a legit remedial, therapeutic massage establishment. No funny business going on at all.

[aussiegaigin]

And all the signs saying "do not ask for sexual services..we will report you to the police", etc also indicate a legit shop??

[cuteguy]

Massage shops can open from June 13 as announced by the NSW Deputy Premier just a few moments ago. However only 10 people can be at one time in the shop.

[birch]

Here's the current gazettal:
https://gazette.legislation.nsw.gov.au/so/download.w3p?id=Gazette_2020_2020-113.pdf

Can't say that I found a specific mention for massage shops... but it could be inferred...

[birch]

An extract:

26. Sex service premises Premises must not be open to members of
the public
27. Spas, tattoo parlours and
massage parlours
No more than the total number
of persons calculated by
allowing 4 square metres of
space for each person
(including staff members) on
the premises
Open only for retail sale of goods and gift
vouchers
28. Strip clubs Premises must not be open to members of
the public

[TheMaestro]

June 13 is the day in NSW. Good news!!

[Idurian]

Hurrah for normal pricing

[Itskens112]

Nth Strathfield 227 is open for business!

[Tiankou]

13th june, is it for massage palour? or brothel is also included?

[TheMaestro]

13th june, is it for massage palour? or brothel is also included?

Just massage parlour bro Tiankou

[Raybo]

How are you guys reading massage parlours are open? All it says is 10ppl with 4 sq metres just like most small retail stores.
Open only for sale of goods and gift vouchers. Doesn't state goods and services.

I thought they could do that already? It sounds to me like they can conduct business as usual with limits on how many people can be in the shop.

[TheMaestro]

The current link above is the Gazette relevant for June 1. From June 13, MPs can open for services they have been able to open to sell products/vouchers since June 1.

[Budgyboy]

Massage parlours are open for usual business from june 13 with nore more than 10 customers on the premises at once, simple as that, that is the only restriction. Brothels not yet, massage parlours have been able to open but only to sell products or if they had a remedial massage certificate.

[suka02]

let’s say if they are open like next week before 13 june or july then we go. who would get in trouble? we or the shop?

[birch]

The gazettal is effectively the law - it's what is referred to if there is a dispute in a fine or court hearing. A media stop by a politician doesn't make a new regulation or law.

If you really want to play it safe, wait until you see the updates gazetted in parliament.

Having said that, it must be really hard for all the enforcement officers (police and council and health inspectors) to keep up with the changing regulatory environment, so there's a good change mistakes will be made and they are probably aware of this, so are probably being very careful and allowing plenty of lee-way in enforcement. But if it's flagrant or likely to draw attention they will almost certainly act.

This is why the risk in a massage shop is low - mostly just a handful of workers and customers who don't hang around - nothing to be worried about from a mass infection perspective... - even if that massage shop strictly shouldn't be operating right now. There's enough confusion about what is allowed to be open and what isn't, why would anyone even bother with the potential hassle of getting an enforcement action wrong? - when the risk of harm is so low.

A ML who I know well returned to work this week, hasn't had it so good for years - 7+ jobs / day, plenty of tips and she's the only girl in the shop!

[MrSeven]

Massage parlours can reopen June 13
Next Saturday.

[MDPorto]

Good news RE: Massage parlours opening back up on 13th June. I notice that some of my favourite places have started to advertise. The ladies must certainly be very excited.

I'm now interested to see what the fine print will be though. Will we have to leave full contact details? Will we have to have COVIDSafe installed? I guess we will find out in the coming days.

[aussiegaigin]

13th june, is it for massage palour? or brothel is also included?

Seeing that many MPs offer extra "sexual services" and will be able to open, I wonder if any brothels will rebrand themselves?

[Adam8989]

Good news RE: Massage parlours opening back up on 13th June. I notice that some of my favourite places have started to advertise. The ladies must certainly be very excited.

I'm now interested to see what the fine print will be though. Will we have to leave full contact details? Will we have to have COVIDSafe installed? I guess we will find out in the coming days.

I saw restaurants asking for name and mobile number, so maybe the same will apply.

[birch]

Good news RE: Massage parlours opening back up on 13th June. I notice that some of my favourite places have started to advertise. The ladies must certainly be very excited.

I'm now interested to see what the fine print will be though. Will we have to leave full contact details? Will we have to have COVIDSafe installed? I guess we will find out in the coming days.

There's not much point in having COVIDsafe installed unless the WL/ ML brings her phone into the room with you... you'd probably have much greater chance of the app linking up with your neighbouring punter than the girls themselves... so there's some benefits without the same risks... at least your contact tracing will match another bloke not a girl! - much easier to explain if necessary!

[brotherjim]

There's not much point in having COVIDsafe installed unless the WL/ ML brings her phone into the room with you... you'd probably have much greater chance of the app linking up with your neighbouring punter than the girls themselves... so there's some benefits without the same risks... at least your contact tracing will match another bloke not a girl! - much easier to explain if necessary!

You wouldn’t know who the other person was or where you came into contact with them. All you would know is you came in contact.

Obviously if case numbers are low and details about that person was made public then there might be an issue.

[spir55]

Good news RE: Massage parlours opening back up on 13th June. I notice that some of my favourite places have started to advertise. The ladies must certainly be very excited.

I'm now interested to see what the fine print will be though. Will we have to leave full contact details? Will we have to have COVIDSafe installed? I guess we will find out in the coming days.

If we have to provide full contact details and have covid crap, then i won't be going. someone else will.

[itouch]

I wonder If I gave false name and ph number to the massage parlours, would they really care and check my ID etc before letting me in?

[lamb]

Even if name and contact numbers are asked for, all shops need to do is write what you tell them. They’re not obliged to verify it.

[sporty32]

I won't give my name and real data (phone number or whatever), never!

[boater]

The government website that covers (in almost plain english) what is and is not allowed in NSW is here: https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what-you-can-and-cant-do-under-rules
and indeed it confirms that all massage shops will be able to re-open from the 13th of June

[rooter]

It is looking more and more like the prevalence of the virus in the community is getting close to zero.
It's stating the obvious but can't you catch a virus from someone if they don't actually have it.
You can both lick each other from head to toe and you will be fine.
The early implementation of the ban on tourists/students etc entering Australia stopped the virus from entering the country on a large scale.
And the small amount of carriers that did enter Australia didn't get a chance to spread it because of the lockdown, social distancing etc.
So now we are at a stage where the amount of people in the community with the virus is close to zero.
Given this reality it is hard to justify keeping businesses closed, destroying peoples livelihoods, and plunging the country into recession for much longer.
That's why we have seen an acceleration in lots of bans being lifted on various businesses in the last couple of weeks.
Brothels will be one of the last bans to be lifted but even so it looks more and more like bans will be lifted in the next month.
So I reckon before the end of July brothels will be back.
As long as bans on people entering the country remain or at least there is a compulsory police enforced 14 day quarantine on anyone entering the country we can pretty much get on with our lives.
The virus just simply is not out there in significant numbers, and it is getting less and less every day.

[boater]

Brothels will be one of the last bans to be lifted but even so it looks more and more like bans will be lifted in the next month.
So I reckon before the end of July brothels will be back.


I suspect you may well be right Rooter as to the time frame.
Of course it is critical to them staying open that we make sure this virus is dead-as-a-dodo in Oz.

[Raybo]

almost all recent NSW new cases were people coming in from overseas ( also 1 interstate, 2 unknown as yet). there hasn't been a single known case of local transmission for 6 days in a state with population 7.5 million. i support the government being somewhat cautious but the risk of infection for an individual at this point is negligible.

source: https://www.covid19data.com.au/

I concur JimJam. I am going to a funeral next week and only 50 people going truly sucks in this case. It will sort of work

Had a friend in Brisbane lose her father last month, only 10 people allowed to the funeral. I cried with her......

[Dm231]

The shop near me is back open ... seems they are BAU ... a ML txt me to see her at her 'friend's' home ... not sure which one to go to ...

[rooter]

What a much better place society has been with all the casinos (cathedrals of false hope), gyms (monuments of narcissism), brothels (shrines of sexual immaturity), places of worship (ignorance and narrowmindedness in bricks and mortar), bars and cafes (temples of pretentiousness) etc closed.
So much more civilised.
These have been the best 2 months in the history of Australia.
Beautiful, so much beauty out there.
But yeah I will punt, eat, drink, and gamble again when they are back, Fuck yeah! Why not! LOL!
Enjoy!

[aussiegaigin]

The shop near me is back open ... seems they are BAU ... a ML txt me to see her at her 'friend's' home ... not sure which one to go to ...

Go to both, then send in reports.

[Budgyboy]

Go the rooter, exactly the way it is and exactly how we should be undertaking the easing of restrictions im on your bus old mate

[sweetpariswong]

Restaurant open now? Then everything open soon.

[f6tornado]

Massage parlours can reopen June 13
Next Saturday.

Massage parlours opening from Saturday 13th? Does this mean shops like 227 Broadway, 190 Top Ryde and 265 Sussex St?

[aussiegaigin]

Massage parlours opening from Saturday 13th? Does this mean shops like 227 Broadway, 190 Top Ryde and 265 Sussex St?

You'll have to wait and see. Watch the rosters.

[rlarla311]

guess opening shops might start post things from friday evening

[bjl0v3s]

well, my regular massage place has updated their rosters for today, not sure since when but when i phoned them, they said just normal massage, nothing else. but i decided to go ahead and have a session at their place anw. picked the girl, massage happens as usual but when i showed $50 to the girl. she smiled, i smiled we both know whats going down. came out a happy man. anw not gonna name the shop but im pretty sure some of the places that you know might have been doing this too.

[boater]

In the SMH today

"From July 1, all businesses, including cinemas, theatres, performance halls, theme parks, show grounds, strip clubs and brothels can reopen."

Only nightclubs will remain closed