C Cynthia - Catfished by fake pics for worst punt ever

[Ottam79]

Okay so initial disclaimer before I get into detail this is my first review so bare with me if it isn't the best or poorly formatted...


First time poster, long time lurker on this forum so I'll give you a bit of background info on myself I've been punting for 2 years now and seen 8 girls in that time, so my sample size is definitely much smaller then most people here for a "worst" experience but this experience was the first one bad enough I felt compelled to write a review warning others as there's no intel on her currently.



Having read many 1st time reviews of girls on sites like this who I've then in turn gone on to see and get great service myself has gave me the itch to try someone new myself, hopefully to give back to this community and maybe highlight a girl people wouldn't of tried otherwise...



I've been eyeing off Cynthia on the Ginza roster for a while but haven't pulled the trigger due to no reviews, however I was feeling a bit frisky this week so thought screw it I'll take the plunge, my reasoning being I've never had a bad punt at either Ginza shop and she looks drop dead gorgeous in her photos on the site, I couldn't take my eyes off her so even they're slightly retouched as most Ginza photos are she'll still be worth a visit, right? Wrong.



Book for an early afternoon timeslot, all goes well, rock up, get shown to the room and immediately when Cynthia opens the door I'm regretting it. This is a completely different woman to the photos. I couldn't see a resemblance whatsoever, she's quite a bit worse in looks across the board and would barely pass off as average to me, I wouldn't even give her a second glance on the street. Still, I thought I may as well give her the benefit of the doubt, I've handed over the money at this point and she may give me the mindblowing PSE service some of the Chinese girls are known for which would make up for her looks. Head on in, exchange greetings and a little bit of broken english flirting from her which involved her grabbing my hands to place on her boobs to "warm up". Okay, that's cool I guess and kinda cute, I can go along with it. She takes my shoes, pants and socks off for me which was also nice I guess before I take the rest off and we jump in the shower. We shower in complete silence despite me trying to strike up conversation with a few compliments and questions which may be due to her lack of English although she made no effort to communicate that either way. No intimate touching, BBBJ or kissing in the shower, just a clinical rub-down. At this point I am already anything but turned on as neither her appearance nor demeanour was attractive whatsoever. She motions for me to get on the bed face down and places a cloth for my dick to rest on. I think okay cool maybe some new catbath technique I haven't got which might be sexy? I lay on the bed face down and close my eyes waiting for it to start.... a minute goes by and I'm still waiting in silence. I look up from the bed and she is sitting down texting on her phone while I'm laying there naked and supremely turned off. She sees me staring at her and before I can ask her what she's doing she quickly types in google translate "Sorry I need to go to the toilet back in 5 minutes" and rushes out of the room.



At this point I think fuck this I'm done, there's no way I'm getting hard let alone busting a nut with such a cold, awkward and careless service. I get dressed and return to reception while she's on the toilet. After a quick discussion with the male receptionist on how unsatisfied I am with her terrible service he offers for me to see another girl. The girls that were available didn't interest me so I settled on a partial refund and walked out. As I was walking out another punter came in asking to see Cynthia for half an hour, I almost felt like warning him but I didn't want to push my luck considering I just got some of my money back and I do like coming to this shop.



I will be back to Ginza as the staff have always been warm, welcoming and helpful with me as well as every other girl ranging from good to 10/10 service, I'll simply chalk this one up to me not doing my due diligence going for a well reviewed girl like I usually do. The Chinese girls generally can be either hit or miss with no inbetween judging from this forum and my mates and this girl is most definitely a miss.

[AHLUNGOR]

Welcome to the forum and thanks for your first post.

Never occurred to you that perhaps sharing some of your other 8 earlier punts will be a better contribution and give back to the forum community?

Keep them coming buddy, and please don’t stop now.

Cheers

[smiling wide]

Great review and sorry to hear about the bad punt. It was good that you walked out. I had a similar experience at one of the advertised brothels many years back but I didn't have this community to rely on. Now I just skip all reviews about that premises.

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[MrSeven]

She looked pretty hot by the photos.
I was gonna try her today but got busy with work. So many more at ginza I want to try.

[poida]

thanks for your AR. photos were good and was about to try her out but in light of your review i will not.

thanks for heads up

[Bangetsu]

Yeah saw her in a line up, definitely fake photos and wouldn’t even look at her on the streets.

[holi_day]

Thanks for the AR. Very detailed and I do feel for you. Most of the sessions i had with Ginza have been great though occasionally dud punts here and there but overall, very good with Ginza.

I would have walked like you did in this situation.
Other things I have learned through these years I have stopped looking at photos. Line up/ say hello helps tremendously. Recommendations from trusted receptionist also great. Pics... forget it...

[dt333]

pro tip: add a reverse image search extension on your Chrome browser.

[Shonkybasted]

What I find surprising is that Ginza has been around for ages, and I didn’t expect them to be posting fake photos. Surely they would have a good reputation to withhold.


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[Yageez88]

My tip is to look at the eyes, the eyes are a dead give away plus the blur/smoothing effect of the skin in the photos. From that you can tell its been heavily doctored. I made a similar mistake like you before learning about this, saw a few girls and they didn't look like their photos at all.

There are apps that automatically make them look whiter, cleaner skin (less blemishes), bigger eyes, younger, pointier chin etc.

Sometimes the chin is massively pointy and you can tell that even if it was done through surgery, there's no way it looks like that in person.

IMO you tend to see it a lot on the Chinese girl pics because they show their face etc. But other girls don't show their face or its partially blocked by something.

[Meng]

Thanks for the warning bro. Did she at least have silver hair like in the photos?

[the big Z]

Welcome to the forum and thanks for your first post.

Never occurred to you that perhaps sharing some of your other 8 earlier punts will be a better contribution and give back to the forum community?

Keep them coming buddy, and please don’t stop now.

Cheers

I don't see a problem with this. Saves time and effort, especially if the girls have been reviewed dozens of time already.
This is a helpful warning.

[chickbreaker]

If you reverse-search one of the photos, this is what comes up:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%E5%B0%A4+%E6%9E%9C+%E7%BD%91+2020+%E6%96 %B0&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESpQIJOWslyHksXAMamQILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSK IkF6RzlEIMa3BCEHPAfqhqfGuEasjKBPJwyyjy3MpkxsTLMI7Y y2yUaMKmY4NseplfPO1gzR5NVvYBbrrwMV5q3bSbcvsF-dzuQGa8ftBc8XECE1K0YOlK-TSAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEgtvAUgwLEJ3twQkakQEKFwoEZ2lybNqliPYDCw oJL20vMDVyNjU1Ch8KC3Bob3RvIHNob2902qWI9gMMCgovbS8w MnFibDFtChgKBWJsb25k2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMjk0amIKHwoMZ3 JhdnVyZSBpZG9s2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wM3dtMjIKGgoHc2l0dGlu Z9qliPYDCwoJL20vMDE1YzR6DA&fir=OrdcNb7Mf0mmBM%252CeQMBq8idQcnw_M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSXofXvHPmZS4ll6vk5eBdBbXSsPw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ1q7q_LzqAhUEU30KHfpDDR0Q9QEwAXoECAcQB A&biw=1897&bih=909#imgrc=OrdcNb7Mf0mmBM

Not that I understand any of what it says, but if Ginza have posted a fake pic, that is pretty bad!

[keddy]

Sorry about your experience bro. Such a shame because Ginza's always been pretty reliable with the pictures for me albeit heavily touched up.

[hc2030]

thanks for the review. I did consider her and she was in my list because the pics are way too hot. But I will take her off from the list now.

[rwong8688]

Ginza/479 is still my favourite shop but they do still have WLs like this with fake or totally different photos. More so at 479 then Ginza but its still happened once there

[Meng]

This is why lineups are so important. See the girls as they actually are instead of photoshopped or completely fake photos.

[9mixtress]

I can understand if this was some quick money grab by a fly by night hotel, but if I was a new punter, and got that as my first punt at Ginza, I would never return.

Surely the people that run the business are aware of this, is business really so tough out there right now that they are resorting to this kind of behaviour?

[walsta]

Thanks for the review,

I was also thinking about booking her in the beginning of the week when I saw the photos. Must be the coloured hair that got me.

[Meng]

Yea the hair colour got me. Hope the OP at least got a girl with silver hair lol?!

[Ottam79]

Welcome to the forum and thanks for your first post.

Never occurred to you that perhaps sharing some of your other 8 earlier punts will be a better contribution and give back to the forum community?

Keep them coming buddy, and please don’t stop now.

Cheers

Nope, because the other 8 have all been reviewed already and were praised by everyone. I didn't have a dissenting view to contribute that would of been useful as I enjoyed all of them enough to have sex with them. This girl I was too disgusted to even have sex with. I didn't even want to kiss this girl. So I had to leave a review.

[Ottam79]

For everyone asking if she at least had silver hair, which was part of the reason I was attracted in the first place, nope she didn't even have silver hair, it was her natural colour, black. Total fake all around.

[hornedone]

did you raise concerns directly with their management?

[Ottam79]

did you raise concerns directly with their management?

No, just reception which is how I got my refund. It seems like complaints fall on deaf ears here now anyway as my friend was actually laughed at by reception when they asked him how his last session was after he left and he told them the girl was terrible. I'm just lucky to get along well with the receptionist. Plenty of bad reviews coming out on here and other websites of Ginza now if they care enough to read them and try to improve.

[Shonkybasted]

I’m surprised management hasn’t chimed in on this thread.
At least defend yourself!


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[chickbreaker]

I don't really think they care anymore. I know I will be voting with my feet until the service improves.

[Meng]

Wow hair not even silver. Feel bad for you bro. It’s a real shame too as I had an amazing punt with coco at ginza

[toysrus]

When it comes to questionable pics at Ginza, I'll be the first to jump on that bandwagon, after all I've made more than one thread on it myself. But one thing you can't call out a shop for is girls hair colour or style not matching pics. I mean girls change their hair like they change their clothes. Of all things, you can't expect the girls hair to be true to the photo.

Anyway I've been in Sydney for 2 years and I have given Ginza many tries (more tries than they deserve) and I must say its more miss than hit at this shop, it blows my mind how this shop can have such a cult following. They must have been really great in the past and people just can't let go.

[geekstyle]

I must say its more miss than hit at this shop, it blows my mind how this shop can have such a cult following. They must have been really great in the past and people just can't let go.

That's probably it, I'm the opposite with it being more hit than miss, but that's over the years. I also think with the splitting into two shops the quality control has gradually declined over time, but I still think overall quality is still above the average in the Sydney marketplace. Although I guess there is a limit to what customers can take before they start exploring other options where before there was only the one.

[chickbreaker]

The way Ginza was around 2014 for me was unmatchable. It had everything I could hope for, and then some. I suppose it still holds a very special place in the hearts of many punters, but they ain't what they used to be, it seems. What exactly has brought about the change - I do not know!

[AlinaLis2]

Long time lurker... I had been going periodically since 2013. This was one of the best shops I would go to have fun.

My experience with them prior to 2018 had been mostly amazing up until they started getting more and more Chinese girls (from China) and opened up the sister shop. In my opinion, I think the experience feels different when you go to the other shop and I personally think the girls there are usually less attractive (I have been with 4 different girls there). This makes sense to differentiate the experience with Ginza where I would return to see the same girl; rather the sister shops vibe is more of like a one night stand.

The service level of Ginza has been relatively the same level though I feel like the experience Ginza has provided over the years does not exist now with most of the new girls and I genuinely haven't had amazing experiences with their Chinese line ups they have to offer. There would be only 3 girls that still work at Ginza from the earlier days that I would return to see. Its not that I dislike Chinese girls in particular but I would not even look at the girls coming from China in their line ups as they just haven't provided me with amazing experiences with the exception of Cassie, Bella (from China) and for a short time Sunny (ABC) were probably the best Chinese girls they had. I think they also had a NZ born Chinese called Jamie which was really good but I believe she was not even Chinese at all.

[adsl777d]

I like the NZ born Jamie as well!! I still rmb she told me she lives in Toongabbie. Omg. Best ever bbbj and nobody have ever able to beat it yet. Very lovely girl.

[toysrus]

So most of their photos dont resemble the real ladies at all? Maybe they use the beautifying filter app or photoshop or whatever they use these days to edit faces, those can remove 10 years of age and make faces become pretty. But lets be fair, most shops dont use real photos too right. Even photoshopped, at least its not completely different person, right. Or is it?

Ginza have been one of my favorite shops. They used to be really really good many years ago, one of the best. Just like how 5star was the best 10-20 years ago. It's sad to hear their quality is like this now. Maybe just forget about looking online photos, just come for line up, that way you dont have high expectations before seeing the real thing.

What about service though? Do their service drop also? They used to be good

In my experience the photos can be anywhere between completely fake to 100% accurate, there is no consistency.

Service wise I don't have any complaints.

[MrSeven]

Ginza is still great value i reckon compared to the rest of the market. Some incredible girls and service.
These days I try to be a bit more strategic in my punts due to financial restrictions, some recommendations haven’t always been spot on.

[hornedone]

I like the NZ born Jamie as well!! I still rmb she told me she lives in Toongabbie. Omg. Best ever bbbj and nobody have ever able to beat it yet. Very lovely girl.

Did she have her tongue on your cock like a Maori doing the Haka?

[chickbreaker]

Long time lurker... I had been going periodically since 2013. This was one of the best shops I would go to have fun.

My experience with them prior to 2018 had been mostly amazing up until they started getting more and more Chinese girls (from China) and opened up the sister shop. In my opinion, I think the experience feels different when you go to the other shop and I personally think the girls there are usually less attractive (I have been with 4 different girls there). This makes sense to differentiate the experience with Ginza where I would return to see the same girl; rather the sister shops vibe is more of like a one night stand.

The service level of Ginza has been relatively the same level though I feel like the experience Ginza has provided over the years does not exist now with most of the new girls and I genuinely haven't had amazing experiences with their Chinese line ups they have to offer. There would be only 3 girls that still work at Ginza from the earlier days that I would return to see. Its not that I dislike Chinese girls in particular but I would not even look at the girls coming from China in their line ups as they just haven't provided me with amazing experiences with the exception of Cassie, Bella (from China) and for a short time Sunny (ABC) were probably the best Chinese girls they had. I think they also had a NZ born Chinese called Jamie which was really good but I believe she was not even Chinese at all.

My thoughts exactly on the switch in quality. I also don't especially find their Chinese offerings enticing. The K and J girls I've had at Ginza/479 since 2014/2015 have been juuuuuuuust passable looks-wise (barely at or slightly below my attractiveness threshold). The C girls I frankly haven't even bothered with.

[AlinaLis2]

I like the NZ born Jamie as well!! I still rmb she told me she lives in Toongabbie. Omg. Best ever bbbj and nobody have ever able to beat it yet. Very lovely girl.

Yes one of the best and the reason why I saw her a few times. She had a personality and seemed down to earth at and it showed in her services. She is at least 7/10 in looks. 2017 was one of the best period.

And I think at Ginza the girls usually are at least a 6 or above in overall looks. There have been only one time I didn’t find the girl attractive and well below that and it seemed like OP took another one for the many brothers here.

Again Ginza services hasn’t changed if you’re after great services at a good price that’s the place to go. Having been to some other shops, there are usually less attractive girls there around similar prices. But I really do wish they could return to their better days once again.

[rwong8688]

Cynthia's now listed at Ginza and her rate's gone up to $260/hour...?

[Yougottabe]

The silence again is deafening from Ginza Club’s No 1 fan again! Criticise Ginza & the big fans disappear.

[yug]

The silence again is deafening from Ginza Club’s No 1 fan again! Criticise Ginza & the big fans disappear.

Why?...What's the point of bickering?
It is what it is.
OP (including few others) weren't satisfied.
It's between them and Ginza.

You want some additional drama in your life or something.

[chickbreaker]

What's even more puzzling is the deafening silence from Ginza/479 itself...

[f6tornado]

Ginza management is just sitting back, counting the shitloads of $$$$s each day and enjoying all the free publicity. They don't care about these comments and are not obligated to respond. I've already voted with my feet but hold no grudges. I've had so many great experiences there when it was a really good shop. Now?.........nah.

[Meng]

Ginza management is just sitting back, counting the shitloads of $$$$s each day and enjoying all the free publicity. They don't care about these comments and are not obligated to respond. I've already voted with my feet but hold no grudges. I've had so many great experiences there when it was a really good shop. Now?.........nah.

One thing that sums it all up was when I popped into 310. I saw a Lamborghini parked inside the back yard area.

[rwong8688]

Lol loyalty is a funny thing in this situation, in this case though i like ginza for its reliabilty with new girls. If thats gone, just vote with your feet as has been said.
Usually though once i found a good regular i would want to try and see her privately as it can work out better for the WL and cost less for me depending. So obviously we all look out for ourselves in the end

[chickbreaker]

One thing that sums it all up was when I popped into 310. I saw a Lamborghini parked inside the back yard area.

Well, you know, it is the very customer service that used to make them stand out that has brought about this success. How do they not understand this??

[MrSeven]

It’s like any business that becomes a franchise. Once the owner steps back... the quality control suffers. Wilson knew his punters tastes and likes... and could give tailored recommendations. Well done to him. I’m guessing it’s harder to do these days Because of its size or the way it’s run. Tony at 278 is usually very helpful with his recommendations.

[poida]

i guess once ya get famous and popular, you end up being complacent, customer service takes a slide. Things can change when punters vote with their feet and wallets.

[chickbreaker]

i guess once ya get famous and popular, you end up being complacent, customer service takes a slide. Things can change when punters vote with their feet and wallets.

Personally, I have. At least until such time as their customer (!) service improves - and this includes receptionists.