Hype over Ginza..Worth?

[Jeet]

Dear All,
Am a newbie here..just started my fun ride...had been to few shops like N5M,Sydney Baby Massage,Ginza empire,5 Star...Can someone share your views on Ginza Club?is the hype true..are the girls/ladies worth the 260-280 diamond price range?going thru some older reviews understood that it was a star shop...is it still?

[AHLUNGOR]

Dear All,
Am a newbie here..just started my fun ride...had been to few shops like N5M,Sydney Baby Massage,Ginza empire,5 Star...Can someone share your views on Ginza Club?is the hype true..are the girls/ladies worth the 260-280 diamond price range?going thru some older reviews understood that it was a star shop...is it still?

Hi Jeet,

Welcome to the forum, as you said you have been to quite a few shops recently, why not share some of your own punting experiences here? And give us your opinions, then we can agree or disagree?

Is Ginza worth it? Why don’t you tell us ?

Cheers

[Jeet]

Hi AHLUNGOR,
Thanks for the reply..Well my experience is as below.I will keep it short

N5M-->Della(Indo)-->Busty,Curvy-->1Hour Diamond-->Service Offered--DATY,DFK,BBBJ---Her service was good..very energetic--we clicked instantly.great fun.

5Star-->Haru(Jap)-->lean,athletic-->1Hour Diamond--->Service Offered--DATY,DFK,BBBJ---Very good service....a slow burner....very good with tongue..my first exp with a Jap...loved it

Ginza empire-->One Chinese girl-->small girl-->1Hour Diamond--->Service Offered--DATY,DFK,BBBJ---Ok service....we dint click....but she tried....But it was cold....not her problem...i couldnt get into the mood..as chemistry was not there...

Syd Baby Msg-->Bella(Taiwan)-->Busty,Curvy-->1Hour Massage-->Service Offered--HJ,sensual massage---Her service was good..very talkative--we clicked instantly.loved every moment..will surely return for her.


Well that was it.

And finally i've been to Ginza Empire..not Ginza club..So I would like to know about Ginza Club..which is the premium one...So please let me know on this.

[Labia Vortex]

Ginza is consistent in quality and service delivery
Fake photos are a little annoying
Decor cleanliness ease of booking all excellent
Discreet entrances also a bonus
Gladesville 42 and Marrickville 5 5 Star City are giving Ginza a nudge

[Meng]

Yep ginza is quite consistent in service. The fake photos are getting out of hand though so I’d try to see line up if I were in Ginza Empire (479) and check ARs for Ginza Club as the girls stay in their individual rooms. Worse thing would be to walk into a room and the girl does not look like her photo at all. You might as well hop on locanto and spin the wheel with any of the $200 per hour private’s.

[AHLUNGOR]

Thanks Jeet,

Now you are one of us.

Plenty of Ginza expert brothers will join in and share what you need to know.

Have fun and keep posting.

Cheers

[holi_day]

Evey shop has its time of high and low. I shift between a couple of shops in the last couple of years.

Ginza and Empire I found is the most consistent in a long run. Because my Asian background and the language I speak, I always have good chemistry with C girls, J and K are also amazing. No Thai though...no....

Been with Ginza for a couple of years until early 2017. I suddenly found G42 had bunch of ridiculously good quality C girls. Enjoy most of 2017 there then I followed the lead of BC, found some cheap and great quality young chicks in 19a, Euston 12 and club10. Had great time. When my last love Joey retired from 12 and happily married, I found the talent pool dried up in these western shops and I was again impressed by Ginza Empire's line up and services. Had been with GE mostly since early 2019.

When the lock down kicked in I found 5star was the best running incalls.

So what I want to say is, the industry constantly evolves and changes. If you find a shop satisfies you well, you can stay with it but don't hesitate to explore.

[Happyman2018]

Evey shop has its time of high and low. I shift between a couple of shops in the last couple of years.

Ginza and Empire I found is the most consistent in a long run. Because my Asian background and the language I speak, I always have good chemistry with C girls, J and K are also amazing. No Thai though...no....

Been with Ginza for a couple of years until early 2017. I suddenly found G42 had bunch of ridiculously good quality C girls. Enjoy most of 2017 there then I followed the lead of BC, found some cheap and great quality young chicks in 19a, Euston 12 and club10. Had great time. When my last love Joey retired from 12 and happily married, I found the talent pool dried up in these western shops and I was again impressed by Ginza Empire's line up and services. Had been with GE mostly since early 2019.

When the lock down kicked in I found 5star was the best running incalls.

So what I want to say is, the industry constantly evolves and changes. If you find a shop satisfies you well, you can stay with it but don't hesitate to explore.

wat so good about 5star.
I know in early 2000 they r the top shop
But nowadays
G42 n ginza is pretty much run d show.
But since s lockdown
I saw quite a few review on 5star

[holi_day]

wat so good about 5star.

To me, they had J Kawaii during the lockdown.

[didaswiwaw]

What's good about Ginza is that they have standard for their service, meaning that DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and DATY is always on the menu. However, these doesn't guarantee a good experience as you may have to deal with bad attitude, fake photos, girls who rush you, etc.

At the end, what's important is to find a girl who you like and she want to make effort to please you, not to just make you cum.

[toysrus]

Personally I think n5m is the most underrated shop in Sydney. Discreet location, nice rooms that are not as dark as G42 and Ginza, always have had good experiences with reception and the roster of girls is up there with all the big name shops.

[GoldfishMan]

Great post, holi_day, really nailed it. I'm laughing at AHL trying to speak for all of us!
Welcome to the forum, jeet! May you have a long and pleasurable punting career!
From my exp, GC defo has the better selection of girls than GE. Plus the rooms are nicer than GE IMO.
Talking about 5-star brings back a lot of great memories. They are an institution. Yes, their heyday was back in the 2000's, but once in a while they manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat! I mean in terms of Top Girl quality over the last 2 decades, even after GC came onto the scene and sort of took their "top shop crown", the score is firmly on their side. No other shop has had more Top Girls (as in, most desirable WG in all of Sydney at the time) come and go!

[Jeet]

Thanks alot folks for all ur inputs..Thank u GoldfishMan..for the wishes...ha ha...

[cplurt2]

I have found on tiered brothels, always take the top tier...a few bucks extra for service thats exponentially better.

[Labia Vortex]

Ginza has also reinvested profits into the business
The Ginza Empire shop fit out would have been very expensive
Looks like an interior designer was employed
For decor nothing else comes close
Most other shops are spartan in comparison

[lonely heart]

What's good about Ginza is that they have standard for their service, meaning that DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and DATY is always on the menu.

So all the girls in 479 still include CIM as standard? Last intel suggest some girl do and some girl dont and you have to check with reception if you are after an all in services.

[yug]

So all the girls in 479 still include CIM as standard? Last intel suggest some girl do and some girl dont and you have to check with reception if you are after an all in services.

Yeah, that's the caveat. Because then, some girl will reject it to one customer. And that customer will blab.
And everyone will join the party saying: "But you said CIM is standard".
I have asked for CIM with some of their girls and never been rejected.

[goodbloke]

This is just my opinion and my insight as why Ginza is more successful than the other shops . Ginza is very efficient and they provide a very reliable serivce with a very reasonable price . Like out of all the rosters .Their roster is the most reliable you can rely on to make a booking . They provide the service as advertised consistantly not fooling around consistantly . This is where other shops failed . You'll get as what you pay for. They have alot of girls so much variety to choose from . They managed to keep all the top girls working for them . The weakness with Ginza is that you have to rely the photos to pick the girls and they don't have many new girls like 42 Gladsville and no line up . This is where No 5 and 42 shines .

[Labia Vortex]

Ginza’s photo are suspect
Like many I rely on ARs In this forum to zero in on the best girls

[quackm2002]

They do not and there is a note on their roster page that states - And include DFK shower service bbbj. Plz ask first CIM

Having said that, I haven’t come upon one who doesn’t but note other punters have.

On photos, they are completely unreliable today. In the past, I think for the most part, the photos were still ok although were on I obviously very flattering. Now, so many bear no resemblance whatsoever to the girl.

The only shop that has reliable photos to me is Kyoto. 42 and M5 have improved too.,


So all the girls in 479 still include CIM as standard? Last intel suggest some girl do and some girl dont and you have to check with reception if you are after an all in services.

[GoldfishMan]

This is just my opinion and my insight as why Ginza is more successful than the other shops . Ginza is very efficient and they provide a very reliable serivce with a very reasonable price . Like out of all the rosters .Their roster is the most reliable you can rely on to make a booking . They provide the service as advertised consistantly not fooling around consistantly . This is where other shops failed . You'll get as what you pay for. They have alot of girls so much variety to choose from . They managed to keep all the top girls working for them . The weakness with Ginza is that you have to rely the photos to pick the girls and they don't have many new girls like 42 Gladsville and no line up . This is where No 5 and 42 shines .
Gotta give it to you, that's a very fair point.
For example, I've met girls who used to be at GC but were let go due to one reason or another (eg. Tardiness, mood swings, falling asleep during sex, etc), who then popped up again at 42G, for example. At 42G, the same girls continued the undesirable attitude that got them fired at GC and sure enough, some customers eventually got affected by all that (myself included).
Those girls are of course top notch quality so they can do what they do and get away with it with minimal damage to their careers, but it just goes to show how far GC will go to sustain their very high level of service and consistency. If they hadn't fired those girls, they could easily have kept them on as top girls and continued to milk the cash cow.

[Dettol]

If they hadn't fired those girls, they could easily have kept them on as top girls and continued to milk the cash cow.

Nope. Ginza plays the smart game. Customers are more important than girls and if you don’t fuck them around, you’ll be rewarded.

Their rival did what you mentioned above and let their girls do what they want and take Customers for granted. They watch from the sideline now.

[holi_day]

Many years ago, I messaged Ginza on a weekend enquired my two favorite girls' roster, told both got fired due to complaints. I was like WTF. That was before we had WeChat. I lost contact with my two favorites. They both have very nice body and boobs. Service to me was amazing.

Ginza has strict requirements. atm they have more rooms than girls I think. Feel like they won't compromise their standard just to fill the shops with girls. If you want to stick to a shop and keep trying different girls from there, Ginza is your choice.

G42 has wide range of selection that suits different needs. Just have to choose wisely. Though there is slightly higher chance of having dud punts but I also found a couple of surprises in the last couple of years. Because I am more into C&J, definitely avoid T, I normally frequent GinzaE.

I think we need both shops, or maybe more. I would be disappointed to see any of them goes downhill.

[goodbloke]

Gotta give it to you, that's a very fair point.
For example, I've met girls who used to be at GC but were let go due to one reason or another (eg. Tardiness, mood swings, falling asleep during sex, etc), who then popped up again at 42G, for example. At 42G, the same girls continued the undesirable attitude that got them fired at GC and sure enough, some customers eventually got affected by all that (myself included).
Those girls are of course top notch quality so they can do what they do and get away with it with minimal damage to their careers, but it just goes to show how far GC will go to sustain their very high level of service and consistency. If they hadn't fired those girls, they could easily have kept them on as top girls and continued to milk the cash cow.

Most Punters are only asking for basic level of service . Like if you say you provide DFK or CIM then provide it . Some girls don't provide these basic service when they said they provide it and charge a premium price . Another basic service is you pay for one hour then they should give you shoild get one hour of their time . Last week i paid for an hour ended only 40 Minutes as the girl was doing it like a massage shop . good massage for 20 minute and then BJ . I nealrly came have to tell her stop . Then I think she intentionally wanted me to come to avoid sex . No dfk , no hugging it was like a machine . These are basic stuffs . These basic services error rarely happens in Ginza.

[wilisno]

Most Punters are only asking for basic level of service . Like if you say you provide DFK or CIM then provide it . Some girls don't provide these basic service when they said they provide it and charge a premium price . Another basic service is you pay for one hour then they should give you shoild get one hour of their time . Last week i paid for an hour ended only 40 Minutes as the girl was doing it like a massage shop . good massage for 20 minute and then BJ . I nealrly came have to tell her stop . Then I think she intentionally wanted me to come to avoid sex . No dfk , no hugging it was like a machine . These are basic stuffs . These basic services error rarely happens in Ginza.
Sounds far-fetched this would happen at Ginza !

[goodbloke]

This only from experience only. You're experience might be different. These kind of experience never happened to me yet at Ginza so far . I think ginza will fire consistently under performing girls or will train them to an acceptable level .

[micoh123]

For a first timer, would you recommend Ginza club or empire?

[toysrus]

There is some questionable tactics at Ginza, for example the new C-Hanna used to work at Ginza as Kitty about a year ago. So firstly she isn't new, secondly I can understand not reusing the name if it is already taken, but as far as I know there isn't a Kitty on the current roster. So why not give the girl the same name so customers familiar with her can make an informed decision if they want to see a girl they have already seen in the past.

I feel Ginza does hold the girls to a certain service offering if they are a diamond girl. On the flip side I have met many good looking girls at other shops who won't work at Ginza for this reason, it is too strict. So if your punting priority is to have sex with the prettiest girls around, you won't necessarily find them all at Ginza, its pretty evenly spread out. If your priority is receiving the most amount of services then you can't go wrong with Ginza as your primary venue.

[Yougottabe]

I’m really surprised you people haven’t worked it out. A certain person doesn’t get involved in these posts. Shrill.

[Jeet]

Wow..well now there’s a lot of tips and info...thanks a lot guys...am gonna hit Ginza club soon...n will let you all know bout my experience...

[goodbloke]

The best way to find out is to go and experience it yourself.

[goodbloke]

which other shops have more prettier girls than Ginza. I think Ginza grade their girls with a price range. At the end they'll go where the money is. Ginza is doing well right now .

[toysrus]

which other shops have more prettier girls than Ginza. I think Ginza grade their girls with a price range.

The graded price range is a general indication of the quality of the girl compared to her peers working at GC/GE, but don't confuse Ginza $260 as being better looking than girls at typical industry diamond rates at other shops. You could see that same $260-$280 girl at a competing shop for $230-$240. I could write a long list of names of girls that moved from n5m, G42, etc to Ginza and are being charged out at $20+ more. Girls don't magically become prettier when they walk into Ginza. They may have to offer more services, which is why I say if you want services go to Ginza, if looks are your priority, you are missing out by not scouting the other shops.

[yug]

There is some questionable tactics at Ginza, for example the new C-Hanna used to work at Ginza as Kitty about a year ago. So firstly she isn't new, secondly I can understand not reusing the name if it is already taken, but as far as I know there isn't a Kitty on the current roster. So why not give the girl the same name so customers familiar with her can make an informed decision if they want to see a girl they have already seen in the past.

I feel Ginza does hold the girls to a certain service offering if they are a diamond girl. On the flip side I have met many good looking girls at other shops who won't work at Ginza for this reason, it is too strict. So if your punting priority is to have sex with the prettiest girls around, you won't necessarily find them all at Ginza, its pretty evenly spread out. If your priority is receiving the most amount of services then you can't go wrong with Ginza as your primary venue.

Your idea of pretty might be different from other punters.
So you just can't say that pretty girls are all evenly spread out. Unless you have some statistical evidence to prove it, it just your own opinion and idea of what's pretty or not. Plus, while one shop might have pretty girls right now, they will be gone by summer.

And about the name change, I have seen many girls change their name. They do it for specific reasons. From your standpoint, you think it's a tactic but the reason could be different. I used to see one girl at Ginza who changed her name because accidentally one of her classmates popped up as a customer. Some have even done it because they don't want clingy customers or ex-boyfriend to show up. Sometimes the girls request to change the name themselves because they don't like it. Example, Sophia. She changed her names at least 3 to 4 times.

Now who knows what the real reason is. But there is always another side to the story.

[quackm2002]

Bad example - she has had multiple name changes. She was Fay at 5 Star then Snowy at G then Wendy at M5 then Fei at G

[yug]

Bad example - she has had multiple name changes. She was Fay at 5 Star then Snowy at G then Wendy at M5 then Fei at G

OK, Let me cross that out then!

[toysrus]

The fact that girls move from shop to shop means that looks are spread out, otherwise they would only ever work at Ginza.
I'm good friends with Sophia, she said she changed her name for more customers, including new photoshoot.
More often than not these girls have very little ties to Australia, that's why they come here to work.
Most of these girls don't have boyfriends as it interferes with making money.

[dundersyd1]

Ginza is the safe and convenient option. Easy location, nice rooms and booking is generally straight forward. You know that most of the time if a girl isn't good she won't be there long.

The two problems I have now are untrustworthy photos and the hours/amount the girls work. Feel like there used to be less girls working every day or all day in previous years.

I prefer booking girls who haven't worked days in a row, especially if they're doing 11am-1am or something. It must be draining and tough for them

[yug]

The fact that girls move from shop to shop means that looks are spread out, otherwise they would only ever work at Ginza.
I'm good friends with Sophia, she said she changed her name for more customers, including new photoshoot.
More often than not these girls have very little ties to Australia, that's why they come here to work.
Most of these girls don't have boyfriends as it interferes with making money.

Again, nobody is saying it's not spread out but not "pretty evenly" as you said.

Yeah, and about Sophia, like I said, some girls like to change name on their own accord; as in, it's their own choice.
Regarding them not having boyfriend, you will be surprised. There are few that are actually married but nobody knows about (well, may be some do).
How do I know?...In 10 years of punting, you know stuffs. I have even met a girl who was married to a policeman.

All I wanted to say is: Things are not always black and white as you think. But I am not here to change anybody's mind.

[toysrus]

Again, nobody is saying it's not spread out but not "pretty evenly" as you said.


Among the top shops I would say it's pretty evenly spread out, I'll stand by my statement. Of course you are not going to find top girls at low-mid tier shops, unless they are starting out and don't know any better, I didn't think that needed to be elaborated on.



Yeah, and about Sophia, like I said, some girls like to change name on their own accord; as in, it's their own choice.

And I think this is bad practice by the shop to allow a girl to change her name for the hell of it, this is literally deception to get more bookings.



Regarding them not having boyfriend, you will be surprised. There are few that are actually married but nobody knows about (well, may be some do).
How do I know?...In 10 years of punting, you know stuffs.

I said most don't, that implies some (a small minority) do. The vast majority of girls remain single because this job is easier to do if you are not emotionally tied to someone.

I have all the contacts you do, Sydney is not that big, none of this info is really secret as they openly tell their regulars.

[CharlieM]

Want to go give Ginza Club a try as my first WL punt in 20 odd years. From the web site it gives me a feeling that it caters more for Asian clientele. Im European background, Mediterranean looking. Can anyone recommend that i will be looked after?

[walsta]

To be fair I didn't even know there was a difference between GE and GC. I thought it was just two separate branches, not that one was more exclusive than the other :question:

[CharlieM]

You'll be looked after fine. I'm not of Asian background either, and my experiences there has been great. Try there and share your experience to us too! 20 years is a long time, you have been missing out!

Thanks for the reply. Have only been going to MLs for the past year or so. The service has been out of this world compared to the early RnT places. Will def put up a report when I go.

[fook1]

Think Ginza quality has gone downhill since early this year.

Maybe because of the lockdowns? Can't bring in fresh girls.