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zucon
21-09-2020, 10:18 AM
Guys, thought I’ll ask some experts here. Planning to setup a massage shop primarily RNT, anyone know what kind of DA approval is needed as it’s not the conventional massage with health rebates rather a rnt. Any leads will help. Thanks
local
21-09-2020, 10:38 AM
Guys, thought I’ll ask some experts here. Planning to setup a massage shop primarily RNT, anyone know what kind of DA approval is needed as it’s not the conventional massage with health rebates rather a rnt. Any leads will help. Thanks
If you have to ask here, you should forget it...
zucon
21-09-2020, 10:47 AM
😅 there needs to be a start somewhere, it doesn’t run in my genes running a rnt
aussiegaigin
21-09-2020, 11:04 AM
You don't start up an RnT shop, unless you intend getting a brothel licence. There is plenty of info on the net about requirements and restrictions for this.
You get approval from your local council for a legit massage shop, then see if you can get away with adding in extras.
Usually, you will need evidence of qualifications applicable to genuine massage.
zucon
21-09-2020, 11:10 AM
Thanks mate, not going to go that path with a brothels license not my thing, I had a interest in a massage shop for sale in inner west more as a side business but looks like it’s not a easy to run side business. Maybe legit shop is a better option but yes qualification maybe a hurdle there as well.
Raybo
21-09-2020, 12:29 PM
Wouldn't have thought it is the ideal time to venture into this business. Maybe do some more research and wait for the Covid-19 clouds to lift.
Carissawhore
21-09-2020, 12:58 PM
My uni colleague from China was a receptionist and co-owner of a RnT joint, she intially was a receptionist and later the owner could not manage the shop and wanted somone who was trust worthy hence she took that opportunity and became partner in that business, she told me she made $700-1000 per day just pimping. Even though it was RnT joint there were no restrictions on girls and everything was available on table for right cost. She did not have license for brothel and everything was run illegally.
TangoEcho
21-09-2020, 03:56 PM
Risk vs reward. Some councils are more than willing to crack down and they're liable for fines, but on the other hand cold hard cash.
It's all about the girls though. If the girls are good you're going to have people coming back.
AHLUNGOR
21-09-2020, 05:17 PM
My uni colleague from China was a receptionist and co-owner of a RnT joint, she intially was a receptionist and later the owner could not manage the shop and wanted somone who was trust worthy hence she took that opportunity and became partner in that business, she told me she made $700-1000 per day just pimping. Even though it was RnT joint there were no restrictions on girls and everything was available on table for right cost. She did not have license for brothel and everything was run illegally.
Can you please explain where are those $700-$1,000 come from ?
Total massage fees income for the shop ?
B J Hunter
21-09-2020, 05:26 PM
I think the receptionist would’ve been pulling a few jobs herself to make $700-$1000 a day. If it were that easy everyone of us on here would be shop owners don’t you think. AHL - I can definitely see you dressed as a bullfighter papasan in your shop ‘Spanish Dreams’
B J Hunter
21-09-2020, 05:32 PM
And not to forget Mr 7’s shop. ‘Tickle my Tonsils Remedial Massage’. As the neon sign flashes open open, cum inside and ask about today’s black book special. No health fund rebate- No Sex - posted on the wall next to Ikea mirror.
aussiegaigin
21-09-2020, 05:34 PM
Thanks mate, not going to go that path with a brothels license not my thing, I had a interest in a massage shop for sale in inner west more as a side business but looks like it’s not a easy to run side business. Maybe legit shop is a better option but yes qualification maybe a hurdle there as well.
Buying an existing shop might be much less stressful than starting from scratch.
No red-tape hurdles to jump over, ready made fitout, and perhaps existing customers. And any "sins" of the previous owners will be expunged, and the council might give up hope of trying to catch you out.
B J Hunter
21-09-2020, 05:36 PM
And what about the Bukkake Boys and their shop. ‘Whiter Shade of Pale Remedial Massage’ which becomes ‘White Christmas Massage’ every December.
Climax598
21-09-2020, 05:43 PM
Mate, first advice do business you know the rope first. Go and work as an receptionist/manager for at least 6 months see if you can deal with the girls and customers and authorities. How to get good quality girls to work for you. Long hours do you like it. Trust is also important as most transactions are cash.
asiafever
21-09-2020, 08:29 PM
Mate, first advice do business you know the rope first. Go and work as an receptionist/manager for at least 6 months see if you can deal with the girls and customers and authorities. How to get good quality girls to work for you. Long hours do you like it. Trust is also important as most transactions are cash.
Agree 1000%. Particularly the trust element. If you aren't running it hands on you must trust your managers implicitly and they in turn must be totally trustworthy. There's a reason a lot of shops are run by retired ml's. They've been around the game a while, probably done some work on reception, have seen how the shops are run and mistakes owners have made and so on. Even then there's no guarantee of success obviously.
Do extensive research, crunch your numbers, maybe reach out to some shop owners who are friendly (and not in the area you're looking at setting up) and get their take also.
zucon
22-09-2020, 12:13 AM
Thanks guys, valid points and definitely helps. It’s an already running legit shop accepting health funds, I was a bit excited but for certain it’s COVID that’s actually caused the fit out to go cheap but then there is a risk element too with outgoings vs profit in this times, I will give it a good thought before making any decision. Plus As some of you suggested do what we know the best and tbh I’ve never run such a business although I do run a small dentistry but dealing with dentist and ml for sure isn’t the same thing
Carissawhore
22-09-2020, 08:11 AM
Can you please explain where are those $700-$1,000 come from ?
Total massage fees income for the shop ?
I am not sure if that was her earnings or for the whole shop, all she said was making 700-1000.
Carissawhore
22-09-2020, 08:14 AM
I think the receptionist would’ve been pulling a few jobs herself to make $700-$1000 a day. If it were that easy everyone of us on here would be shop owners don’t you think. AHL - I can definitely see you dressed as a bullfighter papasan in your shop ‘Spanish Dreams’
She did have BF who knew what she did for living, not sure if she indulged to make some extra cash
Bunty4
22-09-2020, 08:23 AM
It's easy....a couple of shops I go to have 35-40 customers on average... Say 30 to round it off.....each person pays 60, 30 for shop , 30 for girl.... Girls gets extra 50 to 70 depending on what's on offer...as for shop owner 900 $ tax free is made on daily basis.....of course there are over heads say 250$ a day....see easy tax free money for owner while girls put up with horny rascals like me😁...
nihongo
22-09-2020, 09:02 AM
probably the hardest business to succeed in unless you know where to get your staff from, the legalities (most are illegal) and potential jail time and/or huge fines when you get caught. raids by immigration, non paying customers, problems dealing with the girls, etc etc
plus you still gotta pay the rent of 1500+ dollars a week even if something like COVID happens and no one can come through the doors
Bunty4
22-09-2020, 02:14 PM
Where do you get such high rent numbers from....and getting a full licence is not difficult or expensive.... Lease for a place is around 30-50$ annually depending on where shop is located. As for councils and immigration they are just for show...they are lousy....there are 100's if not 1000's of RnT shops without licence who have been operating for decades.... It is most lucrative business. Finding a reliable crew is only challenge....but that is easiest to manage.
Over and out from me on this topic....
asgard
15-11-2020, 01:26 PM
if you want to start a new shop you will need between 30K to 50K. Although you do not need any qualifications for "relaxation massage" and council regulations reflect this. Normally just fill out the DA or CDC and process. But before you decide pick a location where the council has relaxed regulations. Example The Hills district in Sydney are very strict in the fit outs and are always vigilant on rnt shops and when there is a complaint they will follow through with the complaint. In other councils they pretty much ignore complaints and never follow through.
The industry is extremely lucrative. I know a number of shop owners and their average daily takings is between $500 to $1500 per day and if the owner works they can get even more. I know one owner in the Bankstown city area made enough money to pay cash, 800k, for a house in 4 years. The girls themselves make similar.
If you can do it give it a try.
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