Diary of a life dating a WL

[EQ_Boy]

This topic comes up every now and then. The wiser brothers around here have been through it. The more newbie punters are probably contemplating it. So I just wanted to share my story, to share my lessons, for those who are thinking of it, or for those who are just looking for a good read. I will try to update this thread by way of 'entries' every now and then, not sure how regular. Maybe when I just feel like it. Also, I have thrown some fiction into it, to avoid any possibility of identifying me, the girl or the shop.

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July
I had been chatting up this girl in my office for a few months. I thought she was kinda cute, though I was never sure how she saw me. We never went out alone together, but she did sometimes invite me out to drinks or dinner with her friend who also worked at the same place.

One day we got talking about a holiday, and I said in jest that we could go together. To my surprise, she said yes and began talking about where we could go. We decided to go to the Gold Coast for a week. What was more surprising was her willingness to share a room with me, but with two different beds. This was done under the, what I thought to be a pretense, of cost saving. But in the back of my mind, I was pretty sure I was gonna get some action...right?

A few days into our holiday, we had a fight. To this day I still do not really know what caused it, or what went wrong. All I know is she got extremely drunk, then mad angry at me. And that anger seemed to last. From then on it was just awkwardness - sharing a room with someone who didn't really want to be with you was just a waste of a holiday. I couldn't wait to go back home.

When the holiday was over, I found myself to be extremely horny. After all, I had been sharing a room with a girl I liked for a week, without getting anything close to even holding hands or a kiss. Talk about torture. So I needed some instant relief, and pretty much as soon as I got off the plane, I went to a shop. The receptionist told me all girls were busy except one. I thought she'd be ugly, because no one else had picked her, but I was surprised to see she was actually quite attractive.

Her English was bad. Very bad. But we had a lot of fun. She started teaching me how to speak in Chinese and we had lots of laughs. I left, not thinking twice about what had happened, still somewhat hung over on the girl from the office, and not knowing how I would deal with her in the office the next day.

[jimmyk]

Nice so far... great setup

[Cloudybay]

Interesting thread..The introduction is great , much interesting than those "SPINNING - one line comment" posts....

[Mr Crash and Burn]

just when I thought the cute office girl turned out to be the only girl left in the shop!!:haha::haha:

[the wizard]

This is good - A sinopsis for a movie

Your played by-Ryan Reynolds
Work collegue -Jessica Beal
W/L -Maggie Q
Mumasan -Li lin chin (sbs)

I want to know how it continues...........!

[jellyshots]

Good story so far, pass the popcorn ;)

[Souless]

Please Update. !!!

[altgourami]

Obviously your work colleague was angry because you never tapped her ass.

I agree. She got drunk and was pissed off with you because you were too slow to make a move and she thought you were a dud waste of time.

Dinner first night. Romantic walk. Then back to the room where flowers and champagne were waiting. That's what she was expecting on her first night.

[africanw]

Doh, how could you leave it there a bit like inception.

[rsalcedo]

waiting in anticipation for chapter 2 of this melodrama

[Revvedup]

You guys are hilarious, im pissing myself here at the commenary.

I too was thinking the office girl might have been the last chick standing.

[playerz]

Maybe you should change your name to "not-so-EQ_Boy"...lol

Good story bro. You miss out on some downright dirty office action.

[chandra_man1]

he's thrown a lot of fiction into it alright.
joined on 24/02 and its his first post.

[EQ_Boy]

I had never thought I'd be a punter. Growing up, I always thought people who visited prostitutes were dirty, desperate and just...wrong. I would never be like that, I told myself. I would never need that kind of stuff.

But one day my friend took me to a Korean shop. Although I didn't have sex that first time, and just chatted with the girl, curiosity got the better of me and I returned to the shop. That was how I awkwardly lost my virginity. I wanted a girlfriend, but I was getting rejected left, right and center. I just didn't deal with girls very well. Little did I know, this would become my outlet for dealing with girls. I became more comfortable dealing with girls and learning about them through regular punting. I realised there was no reason to put them on the pedestal I had put them on before.

But I still knew I was somehow different from 'other' punters. While they were after sex, I was after an emotional connection. For about two years, I saw a Korean WL every week. This is of course just a broad paint brush description - I didn't literally see her every week, as there would be times when she'd return to Korea for a few months and then come back. Believe it or not, I treated her as my girlfriend. I didn't go punting while she was away. And when I punted with her, it somehow turned me on more when I imagined that this was what sex would be like between boyfriend-girlfriend.

I was too scared to ask for her number, but when she told me she would be going to Korea, I asked her how I would know if she came back, and she gave me her number. When she returned, we continued our 'relationship'. I started fantasising about seeing her outside the shop, but I was too scared to ask her out. What if she said no? Then it would ruin what we already had.

Then one day, I asked her out. She gave me a flimsy excuse, and from then on, I began asking her in a joking way, but still being genuine. She always said no, and one day I just got upset. I asked her and she said no, then I got up, got dressed and walked out. I had no contact with her for a few weeks, but when I messaged her she ignored me.

It took me a long time to get over her.

[8inches]

Best advice I ever heard was:

''Treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady''

[mkko2]

Once upon a time I was like you, searching for a relationship through punting. It was a lot easier with outcall girls than shops.
I met up with several Chinese outcall girls outside punting, and we went for dinners, drinks etc.
But there's always something missing about these relationships.
They are not real relationships. For starters, everything is backwards about these relationships, you start with sex, and then go for dinner, movie, drinks, coffee...

And then it feels weird to have sex again, so we become friends. We go out for a drink and a smoke and I would listen to her miseries etc...
In many ways its depressing dating a WL/ML. Its interesting no doubt, even from a literary point of view, but its depressing.

Looking back I think its much wiser to keep relationships and punting as separate exercises.

[jellyshots]

Friends with benefits works pretty well with them for a time. I guess when they eventually try to settle down though, a former client probably isn't their best choice. For us, they're our "good time girls" and for them we're their "good time guy" so when that crosses over to more serious relationship stuff, it doesn't quite work.

[John_Matrix]

Nice story, it will be good to read more.

That office deal thing would be fucked, I couldn't imagine working in the same location afterwards.

[Clinton]

Best advice I ever heard was:

''Treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady''

Concise and could not be more true. Why didn't someone tell me this earlier ??? I would have avoided many mistakes.

[jellyshots]

Concise and could not be more true. Why didn't someone tell me this earlier ??? I would have avoided many mistakes.

Holy cow! You're back! Did you get out to Ginza? How do they compare to the 227 Broadway girls?

[black knight]

I wanted a girlfriend, but I was getting rejected left, right and center. I just didn't deal with girls very well. Little did I know, this would become my outlet for dealing with girls. I became more comfortable dealing with girls and learning about them through regular punting. I realised there was no reason to put them on the pedestal I had put them on before.
This could also be put in the "why we punt" thread as it is quite true.

[EQ_Boy]

Almost two weeks later, I was still depressed about what had happened with my co-worker. So depressed, in fact, that I went to see a psych. I guess I just needed to talk to someone about it, and it felt good to have a professional ear to listen. However, despite that, after work I still returned to my medication of choice - the casino. I took $1000 with me and played roulette. Almost immediately, I lost $400 and felt like shit. I had decided to call it quits. I called up the shop and asked if the girl I saw last time, Candy, was available. She was. I made a booking.

But just before I left the casino, I decided to have one more splurge. I recklessly threw $200 on the table and...won. I got about $800 out of it, so it looked like it'd be a free punt tonight.

When I got to the shop, I waited a bit before Candy came to get me. We went into a room, she sat down on the bed and watched me undress. She said I had a nice suit. We showered together and she seemed to laugh at a lot of the things I said, even though at times I didn't think it was funny. After the shower I laid down on the bed, and she went down on me briefly before getting on top of me. After a bit of that, I got on top of her and started sucking her nipples, but to my disappointment, I didn't provoke any reactions. When I entered her, I noticed she held my arms and started moaning. I lasted longer than last time, and afterwards she laid down next to me on her tummy and we talked.

She told me she'd be returning to China in about two months for a wedding. I asked if she'd be coming back and she said yes. We then began reading each other's palms, and we played this game where you held each other's hand and had to try to nail the other person's thumb down with your own thumb. She was very good at it. We showered together again, and after I left, I felt like I had emotionally distanced myself just a little bit further from my co-worker. If that was the result I was trying to achieve, it was money well spent.

[jellyshots]

Keep going, bro!

[rooter]

Is this still going?
If the WL shaves her pussy this thread should be called "The Bald and the Beautiful"

[sei]

Is this still going?
If the WL shaves her pussy this thread should be called "The Bald and the Beautiful"

:miao: :miao: :miao:

[EQ_Boy]

A few weeks later, I returned to see her. I had made a booking this time.

Once we got into the room, she told me she hadn't been working for two weeks due to period pain. I saw that she had brought a book in. I sat with her and looked at it, realising it was some sort of dictionary, for common phrases such as "how are you?", "where can I get a taxi?" etc. We put the book away and then got down to business. But after the sex, the book returned and we started flicking through it again. We played and joked around with some of the phrases, and I kept seeing the phrase "would you like to go to dinner with me?". I began wondering whether that was the purpose she had brought the book in.

Nah, it couldn't be, I told myself.

But soon, I ran out of things to do with the book, and finally pointed to that phrase. She said she would like to have dinner with me. I asked her when, and she said she did not know.

Given, that, part of me thought perhaps she was just treating me as a customer still, giving me some false hope, so I did not take it too seriously

[mandt]

and then? If this was a book I would still be reading the preface.

Can you let me know when I can turn the page please.

Yes I am impatient

[EQ_Boy]

About a week later, I decided to go see her again. I was not too sure where this was going, or what I was after, but I was pretty sure this was limiting my chances with a 'normal' girl. For instance, as I was walking towards the shop, I noticed this girl on the street kept looking at me. We both stopped at the lights waiting for the little green man, and when we crossed, she came up to me to ask where this place was. I told her, and she asked me where I was going, and she walked along with me for a bit before I told her that the place she said she had wanted to go was in the opposite direction.

I actually wasn't really after sex this time, but I had had a hard week at work and just wanted to lie down on a bed with a girl. At the reception desk,I could hear some guys arguing with the receptionist. It got so bad at one stage that I thought a fight was going to break out, but nothing ended up happening.

Last time, I told her to bring the book again, but when I saw her this time, she didn't have it. So I figured she forgot what I said last time, and therefore didn't place much importance on me.

After the sex, she gave me a massage and we talked. I pulled out my phone and we played around with an app for a while. Then she exited the app, and started to look through my photos. I started panicking as I didn't know what I had in there, and wasn't sure I wanted her to see it. Not that I was married or had a girlfriend, but I did feel an invasion of privacy.

I asked her when she wanted to go for dinner. She thought long and hard about it, before saying she could go when she didn't have to work for a long time. I asked when that would be, and she said October. I remember she told me before that in October she would be going back to China, so maybe she was just fobbing me off. To me, it was kinda hard to believe that she couldn't take one day off to have dinner with me. Yes, she was definitely fobbing me off.

[jimmyk]

Its getting interesting... keep it going!

[Sextus]

About a week later, I decided to go see her again. I was not too sure where this was going, or what I was after, but I was pretty sure this was limiting my chances with a 'normal' girl. For instance, as I was walking towards the shop, I noticed this girl on the street kept looking at me. We both stopped at the lights waiting for the little green man, and when we crossed, she came up to me to ask where this place was. I told her, and she asked me where I was going, and she walked along with me for a bit before I told her that the place she said she had wanted to go was in the opposite direction.

I actually wasn't really after sex this time, but I had had a hard week at work and just wanted to lie down on a bed with a girl. At the reception desk,I could hear some guys arguing with the receptionist. It got so bad at one stage that I thought a fight was going to break out, but nothing ended up happening.

Last time, I told her to bring the book again, but when I saw her this time, she didn't have it. So I figured she forgot what I said last time, and therefore didn't place much importance on me.

After the sex, she gave me a massage and we talked. I pulled out my phone and we played around with an app for a while. Then she exited the app, and started to look through my photos. I started panicking as I didn't know what I had in there, and wasn't sure I wanted her to see it. Not that I was married or had a girlfriend, but I did feel an invasion of privacy.

I asked her when she wanted to go for dinner. She thought long and hard about it, before saying she could go when she didn't have to work for a long time. I asked when that would be, and she said October. I remember she told me before that in October she would be going back to China, so maybe she was just fobbing me off. To me, it was kinda hard to believe that she couldn't take one day off to have dinner with me. Yes, she was definitely fobbing me off.

I normally don't quote whole pieces, but I've done this here because I couldn't edit it down. This is really very good writing. The simple, plain sentences put you right there. They plod along the same way our day to day lives do, and so it is a very honest style. Alexander Solzenitzen used this in his One Day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch, and so did - not so incidentally - Ernest Hemingway in his Pulitzer prize winning The Old Man and the Sea.

This is good stuff, even if it finished now. The timing of the diary entries is good too. He knows just how long it takes for the (admittedly pitifully short) attention span of the forum to forget all about this, and then - "Hmm - another entry, that's right, I'd forgotten about this." That is good timing, he is sitting back and having a good little game with us.

[AHLUNGOR]

Ernest Hemingway!!

That's some comparison!!

Cheers

[Sextus]

Well much more Solzentizen's style than Hemingway's I admit.

[AHLUNGOR]

Well much more Solzentizen's style than Hemingway's I admit.

Obviously !!

While we are on this complimentary and comparison mode:

Could some Chinese Brothers please rate my writing alongside Sex & Zen (traditional Chinese: 玉蒲團)

or better still:

Jin Ping Mei, or The Plum in the Golden Vase (Chinese: 金瓶梅)

That would really make me a very happy man...............haha

Cheers

:cool2:

[whoareyoumate]

Should go Moc or Bluemoon to get your dream girl instead of unattractive girls from cheaper shops...

[jellyshots]

It's hard to stay engaged in the story when so many punters are doing this already (dating ex-ML or ex-WL).

[able]

Good story, lets hope it has a happy ending

[Sextus]

It's hard to stay engaged in the story when so many punters are doing this already (dating ex-ML or ex-WL).

Well your diary on this subject is fun to read too, you only lack EQ_boy's plodding, world weary, gulag archipeligo style!

[CunningLinguist]

Should go Moc or Bluemoon to get your dream girl instead of unattractive girls from cheaper shops...

It is not a given, you still need to check photos and reviews.

[AHLUNGOR]

It is not a given, you still need to check photos and reviews..

The only vital statistics I need is the Cup size ........lol

Cheers

[Sextus]

This comment is incredibly unfair considering you started an entire thread dedicated to your relationship with the prostitute 'poptart'

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag116/waveflow/poptart1_zps65c404c5.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/waveflow/media/poptart1_zps65c404c5.jpg.html)

Guys this is all making me laugh. Chuckling particularly over the moniker "Poptart."

In fact I went googling to see if I could find an image of a white asiatic looking Ukranian / Russki / Caucasus that might resemble her - no luck.

What it did lead me to though was a site with pictures of Russian women who are seeking western husbands.

And I was amazed! The commie women were making big contributions to their motherland before we western nations ever did, a lot of tertiary educated women I mean, and that culture is still very much in place.

So there were good looking lawyers, civil engineers, medical doctors, all desperate to get out of Russia via a western husband.

Man, I could become a kept man! One of my great dreams! Hey, I'd still make some contribution, but I'd sure like to ride on their university educated coat tails too. :grimace2::black_heart:

[rooter]

Sextus, those Russian, Ukranian etc women are looking for a husband that will maintain them in a luxurious or at least middle class lifestyle in a Western country.
Once the romantic phase of the correspondence is over they will start asking you vital questions about your occupation, income, property etc.
They are not going to come all the way over here to live in poverty.
The older unnattractive ones will settle for less but not the young pretty ones.

[Sextus]

Damme! A medical doctor or civil engineer on maybe 200 large and my contribution would be pretty good! The professions are well underpaid over there, hence their desire to get out.

[rooter]

Don't be naive Sextus. They probably don't have these degrees or they won't be recognized in Australia or their English won't be good enough to practice their profession in Australia.
And the pic is from 10 years ago or of another woman.
Or worse still the whole thing is a scam to make you send money over there to "pay for her mothers sugery", "pay a government official to do the paperwork to get her over here" etc.

[Sextus]

Once the romantic phase of the correspondence is over

Yes, romance should last us at least one or two weeks, then we can put that to bed.

We could even save some time and some flowery phrases and get down to business straight way. :shout:

[rooter]

Actually we shouldn't derail this thread any further. Apologies to the OP.
Start a thread on mail order brides. It will be interesting ...

[Licker]

Don't be naive Sextus. They probably don't have these degrees or they won't be recognized in Australia or their English won't be good enough to practice their profession in Australia.
And the pic is from 10 years ago or of another woman.
Or worse still the whole thing is a scam to make you send money over there to "pay for her mothers sugery", "pay a government official to do the paperwork to get her over here" etc.

You seem to know how these things work Rooter, and good on you to enlighten bro's on the dangers of the world of internet scams.

Let me just add couple of things:
- as an estimate about half of these "women' are in reality a scam artist (which gender, you will never find)
- of the rest, as you stated, some will paint a much more pretty picture than the reality as far as education and looks go
- there are some honest ones of course, but that's probably no more than 10 %

From personal experience (or rather through people I know) I can vouch for the difficulty of said doctor's or engineers to work in the western society.
Surely, there are some brilliant scientific minds that have migrated to West and made a contribution in research, but for the basic doctors who need to communicate with patients and engineers the transition (while not impossible) is hard due language and their degrees not being recognised.

When I was still living in Europe (Western), I knew some migrants from Russia as I worked with one, and he introduced others.
Some had PhD some Masters. Two of those that I knew were actually working in the profession they were trained to, and it had taken them a lot of effort to get their degrees validated. Especially for doctors to learn the language to be able to work with patients can take some time.

I knew however, about ten who while they were smart and had a uni degree, were working in restaurants or as cleaners.
All of the above were hard working people, who had immigrated with their families, not through marriage.

Having said that, rest assured that the people on dating sites are most likely NOT in the group for whom the transition is easy. Otherwise they would have already immigrated.

Just notice the same thing as Rooter... this has nothing to do with the OP. So sorry.

[Sextus]

Don't worry too much. EQ_boy only updates this every six weeks or so, and doesn't add anything in the responses, so at least we are keeping it at the top of the page. Maybe this is too big a topic not to have started a thread on it, or maybe it is talked out now.

What is OP? The opening passage?

[rooter]

Original Poster.

[hikhik]

This is so much better than TV... Keep up the updates EQ_Boy.

[jellyshots]

This comment is incredibly unfair considering you started an entire thread dedicated to your relationship with the prostitute 'poptart'

No I didn't - it was on Pick Up Artists and I'm dating Kova, not PopTart. But, I don't see how this is unfair if I'm just tying to push the story along.

[adjiao]

Obviously !!

While we are on this complimentary and comparison mode:

Could some Chinese Brothers please rate my writing alongside Sex & Zen (traditional Chinese: 玉蒲團)

or better still:

Jin Ping Mei, or The Plum in the Golden Vase (Chinese: 金瓶梅)

That would really make me a very happy man...............haha

Cheers

:cool2:

ahh... ahlungor, if u r not legend on forum at least ur vanity is legendary

[Mozilla]

It's hard to stay engaged in the story when so many punters are doing this already (dating ex-ML or ex-WL).

dont be a doosh bro! haha let the fun continue and hes doing a good job!

[jellyshots]

Yes, sorry and all that. Let the fun continue...

[World citizen]

* douche

Jellyshots is a douche


dont be a doosh bro! haha let the fun continue and hes doing a good job!

[jellyshots]

* douche

Jellyshots is a douche

Yes, I am used for vaginal irrigation.

[EQ_Boy]

I booked 45 minutes ahead of time. When I saw her, I asked if she missed me, and she didn't answer - maybe she didn't understand me.

This time, I didn't come. I couldn't come. Maybe it was because I was tired, or had too much on my mind. We tried different positions, and she even tried jerking me off. But I finally asked her to give up, and she showered. Afterwards she laid down on the bed next to me, and asked where I had been in the last two weeks. To make things easier, I grabbed my phone and opened the calendar. She pointed to 22 October and said she'd be going to China until December or January. She then brought up the agenda of dinner. She said she could do it the week before, and typed her number into my phone.

We talked for the rest of the session, our legs kicking each other as we laid side by side. Despite the language barrier, we seemed to be on the same wavelength. When the buzzer went, a sense of sadness overwhelmed me.

I left, wondering if she treated all her clients like this.

[Revvedup]

You down with OPP !!!

(Other Peoples Pussy)

[jellyshots]

You down with OPP !!!

(Other Peoples Pussy)

Isn't everyone?

[EQ_Boy]

Roughly two weeks later, I had decided to see her. I never contacted her on the phone, because I didn't see a need to, and also wasn't sure if she was just playing with me or if she was serious.

I called the shop, readying myself to book for a session in an hours time. I had even bought a small plush toy as a gift for her. I was looking forward to this.

A girl answered the phone, and I asked if she was working tonight. She said "no, go back to China, holiday, two months" and hung up on me. I thought "what the?" and sat down, shocked. I felt like I had just seen a meteorite - something completely unexpected. I also felt a huge sense of disappointment. Then my mind began running wild:

Had she really gone back to China?

Why didn't she tell me about this before?

Or was the shop lying?

Why would the shop lie to me? About this?

Had she told the shop she never wanted to see me again? If so, why? And how could the shop recognise my voice?

These were the questions I ran over in my mind over and over again, as I made my disappointed way home.

[joelll]

I think she just lie on u...
u take so long time on her in the shop..
u should asked her earllier,I guess she brought the ticket and decide to go back for long time, therefore she don't want to change her plan when u ask her go out

[CunningLinguist]

I forget how this started now, we need faster updates EQ_Boy :)

[Mozilla]

I forget how this started now, we need faster updates EQ_Boy :)

it means he has to lie about the story...(even though we wont know for sure if this is real or not)

perhaps we can document this into a documentary... id watch it. but ill have wait until the full season and watch it all in one hit... LIKE I DO WITH Game of THRONES!!!!!

[HengDai]

Anyone heard from EQ_Boy? Hope he's okay

[Travelmate]

Roughly two weeks later, I had decided to see her. I never contacted her on the phone, because I didn't see a need to, and also wasn't sure if she was just playing with me or if she was serious.

I called the shop, readying myself to book for a session in an hours time. I had even bought a small plush toy as a gift for her. I was looking forward to this.

A girl answered the phone, and I asked if she was working tonight. She said "no, go back to China, holiday, two months" and hung up on me. I thought "what the?" and sat down, shocked. I felt like I had just seen a meteorite - something completely unexpected. I also felt a huge sense of disappointment. Then my mind began running wild:

Had she really gone back to China?

Why didn't she tell me about this before?

Or was the shop lying?

Why would the shop lie to me? About this?

Had she told the shop she never wanted to see me again? If so, why? And how could the shop recognise my voice?

These were the questions I ran over in my mind over and over again, as I made my disappointed way home.

This is nothing strange.
No surprise.
Just another story

[AHLUNGOR]

Roughly two weeks later, I had decided to see her. I never contacted her on the phone, because I didn't see a need to, and also wasn't sure if she was just playing with me or if she was serious.

I called the shop, readying myself to book for a session in an hours time. I had even bought a small plush toy as a gift for her. I was looking forward to this.

A girl answered the phone, and I asked if she was working tonight. She said "no, go back to China, holiday, two months" and hung up on me. I thought "what the?" and sat down, shocked. I felt like I had just seen a meteorite - something completely unexpected. I also felt a huge sense of disappointment. Then my mind began running wild:

Had she really gone back to China?

Why didn't she tell me about this before?

Or was the shop lying?

Why would the shop lie to me? About this?

Had she told the shop she never wanted to see me again? If so, why? And how could the shop recognise my voice?

These were the questions I ran over in my mind over and over again, as I made my disappointed way home.

Hey Brother,

You have her number right ?

Why don't you give her a call, if ever you should, this is the time, why get upset or disappointed, just talk to the girl directly, there may be some genuine emergency like family matters that she has to return, or she was simply not interested, find out and move on or move forward.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

[puntbook]

No updates since back in May.
Maybe the bro got bored of making up the story and the updates stopped?