suggestion for Ginza regarding Indians.

Just had a look at the page and realised that it's almost 99% no Indians.

As an Indian guy born in AU. This kinda sucks that a bunch of immigrants ruined such a good thing.

In any case, I have an idea.
Allow indians that get VIP Ginza cards to build 'up' to qualify for women.

IE. There is a small subset of Ginza girls that don't have non-indian.

If you are indian you HAVE to go with them. If the punt goes well, with no complaints, you build 'reputation'..

This then unlocks other women.

I think this is a fair system that both protects women from a race of horrifyingly bad people, while also maximizing profits and 'letting the good ones through', and building customer loyalty.

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Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti

Just had a look at the page and realised that it's almost 99% no Indians.

As an Indian guy born in AU. This kinda sucks that a bunch of immigrants ruined such a good thing.

In any case, I have an idea.
Allow indians that get VIP Ginza cards to build 'up' to qualify for women.

IE. There is a small subset of Ginza girls that don't have non-indian.

If you are indian you HAVE to go with them. If the punt goes well, with no complaints, you build 'reputation'..

This then unlocks other women.

I think this is a fair system that both protects women from a race of horrifyingly bad people, while also maximizing profits and 'letting the good ones through', and building customer loyalty.

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Good approach to get what you want. Fingers crossed some allowances improvements from the establishment.
While waiting maybe you can try 45George at Clyde 80% are Japanese girls age 22-25 as I have visited Sakura and Miwako. Haven’t visited the rest but on my visiting list

What you describe is a customer rating system, it's a nice idea in theory and doesn't necessarily have to only be for Indians, it could apply to everyone. It won't work since that's too much administration overhead for the shop unless they build a good computer system which we all know they can't do, since their website is still garbage. Plus they still will have to convince some FOB asian girl to erase their preconceived ideas of Indian men. It's not Ginza management you are trying to convince, its the girl, if it was up to Ginza management they wouldn't have any restrictions on customers.

If I was Indian I would just do RNT and try to get upgrade extras through this way. The reason being is RNT girls don't have such a strict "no indian" clause since its YMMV. Once you meet the girl you can work on your reputation with her.

Well the logic being It would simply create two tiers of indian customers.

One a set of well paying, hygienic, Indians many of whom are born here.

And the second a bunch do fresh unshowered immigrant uber drivers that are trying to get discounts on a root before the next drive.

And that lets the girls themselves distinguish between these two groups.

If Ginza wants to expand at some point they probably will run into a cap of customer base and so this seems like a no brainer way to unblock that.

Nice proposal, but at the end of the day it should be the women's choice,

Like girls not wanting to see guys from their own race, regardless of 'reputation'.

Too much overhead work for too little gain.

And who's to say pressure, financial inducement, whatever would be used by some to skew the system.

Solution: Hope the Buddhists are correct and you reincarnate into a more acceptable, hate to say it, but skin. The world is not fair, and whoever told you it was was lying. Sad but true. Get used to it and be happy with what you have. If you've ever traveled, you'll be glad you were born/live in OZ. Even if you haven't, ask yourself why so many girls are working, and for quite a number, it's NOT to buy some flash item, but to better her life in the way she can.

Travel: when you're young, it broadens your horizons. When you're old, it confirms your prejudices.

Hmmmm... Well if anyone from Ginza is reading this.

Id be happy to build a system like this on the cheap or even perhaps for free.

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Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti

Hmmmm... Well if anyone from Ginza is reading this.

Id be happy to build a system like this on the cheap or even perhaps for free.

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This is actually a really bad idea but dressed up as a good idea. Nothing personal against the OP I think he is trying to solve the problem with a constructive approach BUT when building a business case you have to ask what is in it for the customer, in this case Ops customer is Ginza and the Girl. I think Ginza will see the benefits... More eligible customers equals more revenue for them. But they won't want the administration head ache this brings. I don't think they are negetively impacted at all by the restrictions because there are enough customers of other races. So Ginza will say no thanks... And your solution actually does nothing to solve the problem for the girls. They have no reason to try out this system when they don't want to see Indian customers lol. They will just flat out say this is stupid. No thanks.

You need to solve the problem for the girl and in no universe will she agree. This is a bad idea, please don't invest any time or money into this. For those reasons I'm not going to invest today and say that I'm out. I wish you all the best.

A better system for the Indians would be to make friends with a punter here and go for 3 ways, it's less likely they will turn you down since they have to turn away 2 customer and upset the non Indian...this idea has more merit. You both get to fuck the girl, we improve Indian vs other race relations and Ginza makes more money. You're welcome

Regards Mr Wonderful

Its up to the girl.

At end of the day, its not about the money. Even if they are getting paid for it, alot of these girls are probably just disgusted at the thought of being kissed & groped by an Indian man. Plus the potential rude, abusive disrespectful behaviour.

And doesnt matter if its a newly migrated smelly Indian with bad manners or a well educated Indian Billionaire, Businessman, lawyer, doctor, engineer etc.

To the girls, Indian is Indian & its just not worth the money for them

I suppose that's my misunderstanding of the situation.

Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.

Imagine an Indian trying to create a caste system?

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Well the logic being It would simply create two tiers of indian customers.

One a set of well paying, hygienic, Indians many of whom are born here.

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Hmm interesting concept. We can create a caste system. We'll call the lowest level Indians Dalit and maybe the Australian born Indians Brahims.

Legit advice:

Try brothels that might be located in areas with more Indians. Chances are the girls working there would be less likely to reject Indian customers given the demographic. No way Ginza would adopt this system given the cost to benefit ratio even if you offer to build the system for free.

Given a high percentage of their customers are Asians anyways. Adopting this system is not worth their time.

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Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

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I'd say one, or the other, or both, depending on the individual girl.

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If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.

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You're talking about a human problem. Not all human problems can be solved by technology. Attitude, tradition, culture - works against a solution on BOTH sides.

I don't believe girls should be forced to see certain men who she doesnt want to get intimate with.

This would be un-democratic & goes against everything that Australia, the UK & the United States of America stands for.

Ginza & No5, 42 + the other shops still has to take care of their girls at end of the day. Otherwise they wont work well, go home early as they had a rough customer, or next customers will suffer as the girl will be in a bad mood.

Otherwise you gotta tell your people to stop acting like fools here, in Thailand & other parts of Asia where the girls also dont want to see Indians.

Well, perhaps a simply higher rate for Indians would make sense then.

Afterall the girls wouldn't see ANY customers if they weren't paying.
The idea that women have the right not to have sex with a certain customer sounds noble and it is..

But let's face it the entire industry is based around paying women money so they will sleep with men that they don't want to sleep with. It makes perfect sense to just have an 'indian' tier pricing of like +$50 or something

In that respect were all indian... Just some more so lol.

In all life situations there will be response of yes and no. Girls in this industry have every right to make their choice. No means no. Move on

Just say you identify as asian.

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Well, perhaps a simply higher rate for Indians would make sense then.

Afterall the girls wouldn't see ANY customers if they weren't paying.
The idea that women have the right not to have sex with a certain customer sounds noble and it is..

But let's face it the entire industry is based around paying women money so they will sleep with men that they don't want to sleep with. It makes perfect sense to just have an 'indian' tier pricing of like +$50 or something

In that respect were all indian... Just some more so lol.

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It could work. Thats pretty much what some of the Thai girls in Pattaya, Thailand are doing now anyway

Young handsome guy - Free

Old bald fat Farang -2000-3000 baht Short Time

Indian guy - 8000 baht Short Time (if she's happy to see an Indian man)

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I suppose that's my misunderstanding of the situation.

Are they against indian customers as they are normally rude, smelly, unhygienic, and pushy/cheap/looking for discounts...

Or are they against indian customers because of deep Asian conditioning that darker skin = dirty/lowclass/probablyHasDiseases?

Or all of the above.

If it's the second, then your right, it can't really be helped.

But if it's the first then I'm sure we can create a technical solution to alleviate this problem.

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No2 then no1. Similar parallels could be drawn about Caucasian women dating/going for Asian dudes. Similar being the prejudice.