J RENEE avoid

This is one of the worst sessions I have had in Ginza.
I booked her this year based on the good reviews promoted by Ginza

She asked for extra money at the beginning of the session. I refused and she looked surprised.
After that, she suddenly lost her enthusiasm and started complaining in Japanese.
I left the room and went to the reception. I explained the situation and the receptionist at Ginza refunded me the full amount.
I guess these things explain why she left Ginza

Her price seems to have dropped by $10 at this store, but she's still not worth $320/hr

As always, the new Japanese girls at this store are hit and miss.
But this girl is one to avoid.

I haven't met this girl, but based on this review it seems you reviewing her based on your Ginza experience. If she changed shop then perhaps she is starting over, maybe keep the no5 reviews based on your sessions with her at no5?

hell have no fury like a punter burned of his hard earned, good heads up but yeah she should get a chance to redeem herself

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Originally Posted by tcrawford

I haven't met this girl, but based on this review it seems you reviewing her based on your Ginza experience. If she changed shop then perhaps she is starting over, maybe keep the no5 reviews based on your sessions with her at no5?

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Do you think the girls would be better after they change shop? That's very interesting.

Could have used this warning a few months ago, with the appropriate tags

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

Do you think the girls would be better after they change shop? That's very interesting.

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Maybe, some people learn from their mistakes. She obviously burnt bridges at Ginza.

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

Do you think the girls would be better after they change shop? That's very interesting.

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Some people will never change, some people will learn from their mistakes or take an opportunity to do things differently with a fresh start. What type of person is this girl? I have no idea, but I suspect neither do you, unless you've tried her again since she's started at this shop?

It sounds like your experience with her was pretty bad - unless there was some misunderstanding or some context we don't know, asking you for more money in the room in a full service shop like Ginza is definitely bad form. But you got a full refund, so no harm, no foul. To go out of your way to start a thread putting 'Avoid' in the title and posting a review about her at a previous shop seems vindictive.

Would be good to hear the perspective (positive or negative) of someone who's seen her at N5M.

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

Some people will never change, some people will learn from their mistakes or take an opportunity to do things differently with a fresh start. What type of person is this girl? I have no idea, but I suspect neither do you, unless you've tried her again since she's started at this shop?

It sounds like your experience with her was pretty bad - unless there was some misunderstanding or some context we don't know, asking you for more money in the room in a full service shop like Ginza is definitely bad form. But you got a full refund, so no harm, no foul. To go out of your way to start a thread putting 'Avoid' in the title and posting a review about her at a previous shop seems vindictive.

Would be good to hear the perspective (positive or negative) of someone who's seen her at N5M.

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Hahaha, of course. She showed me list like a cafe menu, treats customers like an ATM, and when i refuse, she curses me in Japanese. I don't think she'll ever be rehabilitated.
Just because the money was refunded doesn't mean there's no problem. And you should know that there was a big problem with Ginza refunding the full amount.

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

Hahaha, of course. She showed me list like a cafe menu, treats customers like an ATM, and when i refuse, she curses me in Japanese. I don't think she'll ever be rehabilitated.
Just because the money was refunded doesn't mean there's no problem. And you should know that there was a big problem with Ginza refunding the full amount.

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I reckon OP's got a point that's just plain fucking rude. We're dropping serious cash here, and that kinda treatment is totally unacceptable. We spend 3–5 times more in a brothel than you would at a high-end restaurant. Fuck I'd probably get better customer service than that at Maccas for a burger and chips

Everyone is different but I always carry extra money in case I want an extra hour and or extra women.

You go to the trouble of driving to a place 30-45mins, parking and walking 5-10mins and driving back to where you started out another 30-45mins. Effectively 1.5 hours of your time. So whilst there you should make the most of it and allocate two hours punting. It’s efficiency.

That being the case you should always carry more “folding”.

Sometimes the experience and the adventure is worth paying the extra and if you have a rep for paying then they do talk and maybe she was forthright in asking for something you’d payed previously to other women?

Every case is different and how forthright you are from the outset can determine what’s offered or what’s freely given.

If you’re eating at an Italian restaurant do you expect garlic bread to be free or something you pay for? Would you complain if it wasn’t free? Do you even ask at the outset if it’s free?

Who knows.

Did you get your money and immediately spend it on another woman at Ginza? No doubt your balls were fully loaded hence the visit. Why walk out unfulfilled?

I'm sure there's a few of us who had great times with her at the other shop. She was always so funny and cheeky and I'm lucky I got to see that. I for one would like to see her do well. I won't burn someone at the stake for one bad day when we've had many good ones from her.

I got to experience both ends from her - first time was cold after turning down those extras, as mentioned from other peoples experiences as well.

However, on succeeding visits, even without accepting extras, she was cheeky, quirky and fun. Must be on her good days when I saw her, even on her last day.

As I’ve mentioned in Jack Jack’s original looooong ass thread, maybe her shifts here in n5m will be good for her and keep her sane. I’m going with brother Ed above and hope your experience with her from hereon out be fruitful and nice.

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Originally Posted by justincase

Everyone is different but I always carry extra money in case I want an extra hour and or extra women.

You go to the trouble of driving to a place 30-45mins, parking and walking 5-10mins and driving back to where you started out another 30-45mins. Effectively 1.5 hours of your time. So whilst there you should make the most of it and allocate two hours punting. It’s efficiency.

That being the case you should always carry more “folding”.

Sometimes the experience and the adventure is worth paying the extra and if you have a rep for paying then they do talk and maybe she was forthright in asking for something you’d payed previously to other women?

Every case is different and how forthright you are from the outset can determine what’s offered or what’s freely given.

If you’re eating at an Italian restaurant do you expect garlic bread to be free or something you pay for? Would you complain if it wasn’t free? Do you even ask at the outset if it’s free?

Who knows.

Did you get your money and immediately spend it on another woman at Ginza? No doubt your balls were fully loaded hence the visit. Why walk out unfulfilled?

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I don't understand what you saying. We pay for the services listed on the website. You know what's free and what's paid, right? What else do you need to pay? Are you saying you pay extra for suck up to girls?

After that, receptionist recommended other girls, but they weren't my type, so I left. What's wrong with that?

Well said. Don't ever feel pressured or made to feel shit by not accepting

I think regardless of whether others had good or bad service from her, or her work hours being long, or if she's had a quiet/bad day, having a shitty attitude after someone turns down any extra offered services or if she was asking for a tip right at the start of a session is just rude and bad service.

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Originally Posted by secret0

I think regardless of whether others had good or bad service from her, or her work hours being long, or if she's had a quiet/bad day, having a shitty attitude after someone turns down any extra offered services or if she was asking for a tip right at the start of a session is just rude and bad service.

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Yes, I agree with you. It's not right for someone who had a good experience with a girls to argue that it was just a bad day for them.

It's like buying a new car and the salesman tries to sell you tint, floor mats and a detail, and you refuse, and they get mad and pout. Yeah no, don't do that.

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

I don't understand what you saying. We pay for the services listed on the website. You know what's free and what's paid, right? What else do you need to pay? Are you saying you pay extra for suck up to girls?

After that, receptionist recommended other girls, but they weren't my type, so I left. What's wrong with that?

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You go to the trouble of being there. Driving, walking, whatever, that takes time to get there and back. 1.5 hour approx yes? Why pull the pin and leave? Don’t you allocate a block of time for fun and stick to it? Maybe your life isn’t that busy?

I always pay a few hundred extra at the end of the session to each WL afterwards as a bonus. The regulars all know it and everything runs very smoothly. It’s the motivation to perform above and beyond. You do as you please and I do as I please, no need to call it “sucking up”, if it makes me happy to do it then I do it. It’s not about making them happy, I’m there to please myself only and not them. It’s all about me and the experience I get. I’m there to blow my load and that’s it, they’re attractive milking machines, nothing more.

Even if I walk in unannounced and there’s no regular WL available I’ll still take any random that’s suggested to me. I’m in the shop, I’ve made the effort to get there, made the decision to punt and I’m going through with it.

I’ve never walked out of a place without punting.

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Originally Posted by justincase

I always pay a few hundred extra at the end of the session to each WL afterwards as a bonus. The regulars all know it and everything runs very smoothly. It’s the motivation to perform above and beyond.

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Seems more like that spoils them and makes them feel entitled, especially if they don't even provide basic level of service if bonuses aren't paid.

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Originally Posted by crhaayn

It's like buying a new car and the salesman tries to sell you tint, floor mats and a detail, and you refuse, and they get mad and pout. Yeah no, don't do that.

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Kinda more like a waiter who asks for a tip or if you want extra food (which you still have to pay for), and if you decline, they give you the food you already paid for but with a shitty attitude (and maybe even spat in it before serving).

booked for 1 hr at Ginza, and in the middle of the session,
She said, could we just end it here 30 minutes ?
i dont think i can do 2nd round
its more like pump and dump session nothing special

maybe that time was her bad day,
but as far as i know she is approved by jack and ED69
so she should be special