Ginza Empire REAL J Model MAI - totally wasted $400 would rather spend it on charity

As suggested as bro Meng, I created AR in a separate tread for ease of search of punters looking on specific review(s), as the Ginza/479 mega tread are getting too big to search...

Girl's name: J Model Mai (advertised as REAL J Model, 20 year old!! with MINIMUM 1hr booking and jacked up price of $460)
Location: Ginza Empire, 479 Elizabeth St, Surry Hills
Service Date and time: Tuesday 10th May 8:10pm
Rating of Service : 0 out of 5 (see explanation below)
Rating of Look : 0 out of 5 (see description below)
Overall Rating : -1 out of 5 (i rather spend the money on charity)

Got burnt totally wasted $400 on J Model Mai few weeks ago, advertised as 20 year old REAL Japanese model and min 1 hr $460 booking. They did later say just right before the session that her service is bad and they cut $60 upfront when I pay on the counter, but it is implied that i cannot cancel at that moment, so still $400 down the drain.... I should have spend the money on charity instead, at least i feel a little bit better about it.
Although her service was bad, it wasn't her service that was shockinng...it was the other facts that they didn't say....her face is very plasticky in a bad way, frizzy hair, and the most shocking is her boobs is drooping and wrinkly like dried prunes, no way she is a model...., servicewise she looks so tired/sleepy?/high? I actually pity her... , so i just let her sleep on my arm for and left feeling sad after bell rang.

I think that day Ginza just disappointed at least 8 of their best loyal best high spending customers that day..., and they didn't care

It reminded me little bit of my experience with MOC (myoutcall)... they was popular at start with a few amazing girls (perhaps 2-3?) e.g. Ruby (i still remember tall Chinese beautiful long legs girl), then they do the money grabbing things..., fake ads ($700-&900/hr for a village girl from China with bushy armpits advertised as model)... then sell the business... then i heard the new owner totally wasted their investment as the MOC name was not an asset but rather a liability as everybody hates the brand...lol

Ginza and Ginza empire are not like they used to be, they are untrustworthy now… photos are pointless as they are totally misleading (sometimes even is blatant fake), blatant lie description of the girl, and money-grabbing pricing. If you see min 45 hr or min 1 hr booking, jacked up price?...is a sign to run away! as the quality would be worse rather than better..., is an opportunistic mechanism for them to rip you off.
I have been loyal customers of Ginza and Ginza Empire since 2013... , till they become so God damn rich now... instead of treating their loyal regular customers well, this is what i got...LOL!! Not even a partial refund... greedy people!

i would recommend to only 30 min booking first at $160 price max and more prudent way is to read review first from people in the forum whom you know can trust from their historical postings.., if that still doesn't work, insist of seeing the line up first and refuse to pay any $15, $20 fee of bullshit things that they try to impose on you, or rather simply... don't give them business opportunity to earn your hard earned money!!

We all can travel to Japan now and get cheaper and better deal…, they are foreigner friendly brothels too nowadays…, see first before you pay, beside is time for holiday too! need new ambience after stuck in Sydney for 2 years...

cheers! happy punting!

These are the advertised photos on Ginza Empire which now already taken downAttachment 80844Attachment 80845

Attachment 80846 this is the body shot photo

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Originally Posted by negi

As suggested as bro Meng, I created AR in a separate tread for ease of search of punters looking on specific review(s), as the Ginza/479 mega tread are getting too big to search...

Girl's name: J Model Mai (advertised as REAL J Model, 20 year old!! with MINIMUM 1hr booking and jacked up price of $460)
Location: Ginza Empire, 479 Elizabeth St, Surry Hills
Service Date and time: Tuesday 10th May 8:10pm
Rating of Service : 0 out of 5 (see explanation below)
Rating of Look : 0 out of 5 (see description below)
Overall Rating : -1 out of 5 (i rather spend the money on charity)

Got burnt totally wasted $400 on J Model Mai few weeks ago, advertised as 20 year old REAL Japanese model and min 1 hr $460 booking. They did later say just right before the session that her service is bad and they cut $60 upfront when I pay on the counter, but it is implied that i cannot cancel at that moment, so still $400 down the drain.... I should have spend the money on charity instead, at least i feel a little bit better about it.
Although her service was bad, it wasn't her service that was shockinng...it was the other facts that they didn't say....her face is very plasticky in a bad way, frizzy hair, and the most shocking is her boobs is drooping and wrinkly like dried prunes, no way she is a model...., servicewise she looks so tired/sleepy?/high? I actually pity her... , so i just let her sleep on my arm for and left feeling sad after bell rang.

I think that day Ginza just disappointed at least 8 of their best loyal best high spending customers that day..., and they didn't care

It reminded me little bit of my experience with MOC (myoutcall)... they was popular at start with a few amazing girls (perhaps 2-3?) e.g. Ruby (i still remember tall Chinese beautiful long legs girl), then they do the money grabbing things..., fake ads ($700-&900/hr for a village girl from China with bushy armpits advertised as model)... then sell the business... then i heard the new owner totally wasted their investment as the MOC name was not an asset but rather a liability as everybody hates the brand...lol

Ginza and Ginza empire are not like they used to be, they are untrustworthy now… photos are pointless as they are totally misleading (sometimes even is blatant fake), blatant lie description of the girl, and money-grabbing pricing. If you see min 45 hr or min 1 hr booking, jacked up price?...is a sign to run away! as the quality would be worse rather than better..., is an opportunistic mechanism for them to rip you off.
I have been loyal customers of Ginza and Ginza Empire since 2013... , till they become so God damn rich now... instead of treating their loyal regular customers well, this is what i got...LOL!! Not even a partial refund... greedy people!

i would recommend to only 30 min booking first at $160 price max and more prudent way is to read review first from people in the forum whom you know can trust from their historical postings.., if that still doesn't work, insist of seeing the line up first and refuse to pay any $15, $20 fee of bullshit things that they try to impose on you, or rather simply... don't give them business opportunity to earn your hard earned money!!

We all can travel to Japan now and get cheaper and better deal…, they are foreigner friendly brothels too nowadays…, see first before you pay, beside is time for holiday too! need new ambience after stuck in Sydney for 2 years...

cheers! happy punting!

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Love this mate, honest review that we needed to exposre the lies from these assclowns. Almost half a grand gone because these fuckers love to lie, deceive and pull bullshit fees on people who keep this industry going.

Fucking fees to see the girls? Absolutley ridiciulous!

Just scam after scam, the owners and the girls are all in on it. So many of these places wont even let you do $30 mins. They say the girls wont do a line up unless you pay for 1 hr or minimum 45 mins. They know once your in the shop, thats when the money starts flowin. And they can intimidate you if you try and even ask for the basics! They upsell on shit you dont want, they increase sneaky prices for only some girls. So these fucks use fake photos and photshop to get you.

Literally been having the same experienes with shit management, price rorts and misleading photos.

It's fucked, no wonder i havent been going recently with shit like this

What a sad state of affairs for Ginza. Really sad that they've come down to this level now, because I've had many great punts with them.
FMD don't tell me I have to travel all the way to Marrickville for a good reasonably priced punt now. If that's what it's going to be, I'll stick to RNT, privates/ agencies and my secret GF, lol!

Just wanted to add that the greed thing is so true. Time after time you go to these places and fork out $1000's over the years and all they give you is a middle finger. With places like thailand, japan etc opening back up hopefully we see these establishments haemorrhage a bit of money with punters taking their hard earned cash overseas where not only are you made to feel like a king but your dollar goes so much further, not to mention the awesome holiday.

I have actually been stopping punting last few times when i wanted to go because instead of wasting $150-$300 a pop, im saving, booking hotels, flights and reading into having a great time. I feel even with me spending upto $300 at some of these places i leave with a shitty sex experience and wanting something else. Literally i only ever go based on reccomendations and even then i dont trust a lot of punters on here because they take what they can get.

I remember going the brothel a week ago around in the city and i just kept walking out. All the time it was just some girl whos high as fuck, in her 30's who acts like shes doing you a favour. Honey, i dont give a fuck, im not handing you a quarter grand so i can get mediocre sex.

Thailand, japan, vietnam, here we come!

I hope management at Ginza listens to this and realised they are more worth to keep quality high n real n punters will pay.. no need to fake or drop standard where they need to do this to punters.. these girls might b ok at $200 per hr but not at $400 per hr..

prob making too much money to care lol
there's always horny sucker out there

I haven’t been to them as frequently as I have since they lost some of their best girls. It has come down to just 1 30min visit in the last 2 months I think… that girl that looked like the ramen lady in Tampopo. I’m just too lazy to make my way up there these days. Prefer to go with agency girls or RNTs.

So I’ve given the Ginza shops a good go over the last few months and I must say I’ve been left disillusioned and disappointed. I’m completely fed up not only with cat-fishing by the shops’ website but also some of the over-hyped reviews that are on this site. Sure we each have our own preferences but surely not everyone can be 9 or 10/10! Either these reviewers need glasses or they haven’t seen a proper 9-10/10 WL! Anyway I would rather go to a shop and meet the girls first rather than waste precious time trying to get a ridiculously hard-to-get blind booking and be disappointed. As for those who say you should only rate and pay for service rather than looks, call me superficial but I would rather get a CBJ from a girl that I find hot than CIM from a MILF that I would not look twice at in real life! As for Ginza shops being cheaper than other places that allow a lineup: it’s not cheap when it’s money wasted on a girl you wouldn’t have picked from a lineup in the first place!

That's the thing about GC, and to a lesser extent GE. Their "winning formula" was accurate descriptions and photos of the girls because they did not offer a line-up. It used to be, you look up the girl on their website, checkout some reviews here that gave a good rough idea what you were going to get (looking at you bro rooter), make a booking for the girl and then ... aha! The girl turns out to be very close to what you were expecting based on the above.
They knew that in order to make their "no line-up" model work, their website must portray what the girl is about as accurately as possible. They even have iPads on their front counter showing their website.

Nowadays they seem to have strayed away from this basic strategy. The website design is crap: no search function, randomising the profile sequence, etc. It was OK when they had fewer girls, but now with so many profiles I CBF'ed to endlessly browse profiles just to find the girl I was interested in.

There are also heaps of "stale" profiles there. Girls that have stopped working at GC for months still have their profiles there. That just adds to the pain of using the already bad website design!

So you go through the pain of doing research with this crappy website only to find most of them have inaccurate photos and descriptions. The end result is No line-up and no accurate descriptions, it's as good as a blind punt using yellow pages!

Hey Bro, totally feel you. all the booking done last 3 months pretty much all disappointed. To me the Girl J YOKO just so Fxxking bad

I think we are going through a period of excitement with the borders opening and all these new girls coming in. It doesn't look like there's any quality control as to which girls they are taking and it is reflecting on the poor customer experience. At least for me these days, if I see any inkling of something that doesn't look/sound right I pass or wait for a review. When I saw Mai on the roster there were immediate red flags.

I'm glad someone else brought this up as this thread was long due. I haven't visited as many years as other bros here but I've visited around 5 to 8 times, everytime a different girl.

Each time, I'm left slightly dissappointed because the girl doesn't look at all like the pictures advertised and the service generally is so so. The last time this happened, I said to myself I won't visit again and will probably check out other places.

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Originally Posted by GlamourPhoto

theres plenty of caucasians joint where you can cbj and a list of dos and donts

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And that’s where I usually go and happily. For me, I’ll rather pay $250 and receive CBJ from a young hottie who I’ve picked from a lineup because I find her attractive than pay $200 and receive CIM from someone I don’t find attractive and wouldn’t pick if they were in a lineup. Each to their own, but I punt to fuck girls I normally wouldn’t be able to score with: otherwise I can just go on Tinder and get it for free!

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

What a sad state of affairs for Ginza. Really sad that they've come down to this level now, because I've had many great punts with them.
FMD don't tell me I have to travel all the way to Marrickville for a good reasonably priced punt now. If that's what it's going to be, I'll stick to RNT, privates/ agencies and my secret GF, lol!

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so that's why you don't do as many review now lol!

thanks for the heads up, i've been getting bored and was looking into visiting. I'll give it a miss now

0 out of 5, shit what a waste of money.

In my limited experience at Ginza, I find that they cater for cashed-up Chinese punters who dont care about dropping $400

Ginza is advertising Jap porn star Mona Kasuga as 22yo in the other thread when a simple Google search will show she's 32. So you got to add another 10 years to their advertised age as a rule of thumb.

If a shop is providing misleading information about their girls and charging higher prices than what you could get somewhere else then don't go there. Take your money somewhere else. You don't need to be an Einstein to figure it out. Shops increase prices because they see increased demand and maybe it's best to support other shops where there is good talent but the prices are more reasonable.

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Originally Posted by dt333

Ginza is advertising Jap porn star Mona Kasuga as 22yo in the other thread when a simple Google search will show she's 32. So you got to add another 10 years to their advertised age as a rule of thumb.

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Yes add 7 to 10 years for new girls. For some long term girls add 15 years to their advertise age.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

That's the thing about GC, and to a lesser extent GE. Their "winning formula" was accurate descriptions and photos of the girls because they did not offer a line-up. It used to be, you look up the girl on their website, checkout some reviews here that gave a good rough idea what you were going to get (looking at you bro rooter), make a booking for the girl and then ... aha! The girl turns out to be very close to what you were expecting based on the above.
They knew that in order to make their "no line-up" model work, their website must portray what the girl is about as accurately as possible. They even have iPads on their front counter showing their website.

Nowadays they seem to have strayed away from this basic strategy. The website design is crap: no search function, randomising the profile sequence, etc. It was OK when they had fewer girls, but now with so many profiles I CBF'ed to endlessly browse profiles just to find the girl I was interested in.

There are also heaps of "stale" profiles there. Girls that have stopped working at GC for months still have their profiles there. That just adds to the pain of using the already bad website design!

So you go through the pain of doing research with this crappy website only to find most of them have inaccurate photos and descriptions. The end result is No line-up and no accurate descriptions, it's as good as a blind punt using yellow pages!

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speaking of bad website, the https site for GC is completely borked

...honestly can't remember when it was last working, just seems a really basic issue they should sort out

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Originally Posted by Climax598

Yes add 7 to 10 years for new girls. For some long term girls add 15 years to their advertise age.

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also for newcomers just going off the site, remember some girls working for 3-5 years and still listed as 19 (J Sally and T Alin come to mind) haven't really been looking at the roster recently though if they're still working

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Originally Posted by Nebuzu

also for newcomers just going off the site, remember some girls working for 3-5 years and still listed as 19 (J Sally and T Alin come to mind) haven't really been looking at the roster recently though if they're still working

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Great points here. Interestingly enough it seems good reviews reverberate. One the popular places like no5 and 200 Stanmore all have good support and backup from senior members, good websites and accurate descriptions.

There is another one right, now actress. 430