I assume this is a fun and safe question to ask here since we are almost just anonymous here. What are you going to vote for this referendum about the First Peoples of Australia?
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I assume this is a fun and safe question to ask here since we are almost just anonymous here. What are you going to vote for this referendum about the First Peoples of Australia?
After doing a bit of research, it’s a no for me
I don’t like people telling me what to do. TV Ad say vote “yes”, people on the street giving flyers telling me to vote “yes”, politicians the same. Why not explain to the people what is the referendum and let them f**** decide.
No way I trust Albo
It's about land rights and the government is just using the Aboriginal people
They could just us legislation to get this done but want more
They should have put all the information on the table then let people question it and have debates over the year then vote
It's all on the Hush Hush and hiding things
And Albo said he did not need to read the 28 pages of information that was recommended for him to read what a bad con man
Imagine this. You conquer a land its people. Now after some centuries, you gonna put a person to represent the people you conquered, to participate int he government you took away from them. For me, it sounds stupid and just a lip service. Indigenous People are already represented so I don’t really see the point of the Voice.
If we do not vote will it count as a yes or no?
The general rhetoric is firm on stating that the representatives or the committee won't have veto rights on bills. If it stays within these boundaries which means it's for consultation purposes then all its all good. However, I am not sure what's between the lines, or if there is any.
Voice or no Voice, close the gap would be nice
Referendums in Australia are a way for the people to have a direct say on proposed changes to the Constitution.
Decisions regarding referendums are a matter for the Australian public and are determined through the democratic process.
I'm out
Absolutely Not. This is a trojan horse for unelected & unfettered constitutional power. Vote No.
Personally hate being told what to do. And I care so little about it that patronising white pricks giving the “wrong side of history” lecture is enough to make me vote No out of spite. I really wish not-voting was an option
I just don't trust why we need to vote for something that has no details. Now whats first they want Australia day changed, next more land grabs, next what else they want the harbor bridge??? They can voice all this without a vote. If we voted yes that would be like giving a green light for them to change what ever the fuck they want. I think there has to be something in this for Albo to. Its a big fat no from me. Don't like being forced to vote on this kind of political BS.
Happy for the Voice to happen or not happen
As Warren Mundine, prominent indigenous No campaigner,
said at the Press Club today:
Most countries have had a difficult past. Many countries were invaded and wars fought
England also was invaded a few times including by the Germans. Invaded to the extent that the English language contains foreign influences
Why dont the English dwell and blame past invaders, and dwell on their past invasions? Because dwelling on the past solves nothing
I’ll vote for any party that can subsidise the high cost of punting and opens the gateway to our shores for fresh Asian new talent.
It'll just be one less vote count in either way. That's actually one way to hold onto your principles, if you can stomach the fine that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_Diaz
This is a Real Estate agents take on it that I received by email the other day
Well, I had a very interesting conversation with Elbow Easy this afternoon.
I rang him and asked him if he would like to buy some ground in the Kilcoy Paradise area.
This is how the convo went:-
ELBOW: Hello Elbow speaking
Me: Hello, it's Harold from Kilcoy Paradise here.
ELBOW: What can I do for you Harold.
Me: I have some land I thought you might be interested in but if you buy it there is no cooling off period. Once you sign the contract there is no going back or changing your mind.
ELBOW: how much land do you have ?
Me: I can't tell you that until you sign the contract.
Elbow: well how much do you want for it ?
Me: no, can't tell you that until you sign the contract.
ELBOW: Well how do I know what I'm getting or how much it's costing me ?
Me:Well you sign the contract and then I will tell you.
ELBOW: surely you don't expect me to sign something that I don't know what I am getting or how much it's going to cost me.
Your call!
It's funny how most blokes don't like being told what to do, but when a ML says "ok darling, please turn over", then everything goes out the window.
It’s a NO from me. Voting Yes will cost us more money in taxes for reparations no doubt. And with the cost of living these days it’s taxes we don’t need. Why should people not involved in the “invasion” be paying money to people that were also not involved in the “invasion” ?
This has been covered before and is a totally inaccurate representation, please stop spreading bullshit. Does it concern you that the details governing defence, currency and more are lacking, and are gilled in later through legislation? This is how it works, constitution provides the framework only, legislation fills in the details. If we worked as this moronic example above suggests by having all details first, we'd have no air force because flight wasn't invented when the constitution was written.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onehunglo
There will be no land grabs, the voice will have no power of its own, legislation will STILL work as it has previously, it is there to ensure that indigenous population can advise govt on matters that affect them. It's advice is non-binding BUT it ensures that it can't be disbanded like ATSIC was. It also ensures that the races power is s51 (I forget the subsection) can't be interpreted by the federal court to discriminate against indigenous people as it can currently.
If you don't know, donkey vote, simply voting no because you don't know what a yes means is stupid.
We have prominent Indigenous people voicing their dissatisfaction about this referendum. The surprisingly lack of information provided to the voters is also a joke . And some much tax payers money is going into organising this ?
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Originally Posted by frisson