As per title, anyone have any info?
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...eb84330b9989a4
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As per title, anyone have any info?
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...eb84330b9989a4
It was raided at 11.30am yesterday. All girls and customers in the place were taken away for questioning. 2 girls were arrested I hear. You can probably guess the reason for the arrests if you are a regular up there.
Just for the general scenario of a cops bust of a massage place, do customers have anything to fear? Arrested for lewd behavior if carrying condoms on them? I always have a condom in my wallet for example
If done nothing illegal, do you have to disclose your details, name and so on, if you arent carrying ID?
I tried clicking on the link but it didn't work. What happened ? Was it a immigration raid or other illegal activity type raid ?
Would imagine it was an immigration raid
Unless you get caught fucking a worker who is under 18 then no.Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy
The link is paywalled, but being in The Telegraph there is a good chance there is more sensational than fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by des888
The worst that could happen is that they could ask you to make a statement about what you were doing there, and with the girl. "Employing" an illegal worker is an offence, but if you paid the shop, they would cop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy
If you are caught in a brothel raid
I have
What can happen to a punter Depends on what the specifics of the bust is
Police can request and will access your phone and all social media and other
They will ask questions about why you are there , who do you know are you associated with the shop owners or other
They will take all your contact details including email, then unless they are charging you or deem you warrant further focus
You are on your way
Not Much they can do really
It must still scare the shit out of you, it would me:startle:Quote:
Originally Posted by liminal
The above sounds pretty bad, I wouldn't like dat!
For me - no it didn’tQuote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
However for the women , and those without valid visas - yes
I feel sorry for the girls if it was a immigration raid
They are working illegally, they know the risks involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbi-stretch
They will get deported, and banned from re-entry for a few years. Not all that traumatic, really.
For any legal punter we can from comfort and privilege make all manner of assertions
However while I agree they may know the risk they take, like everyone , we never think it will happen to us
When it does, it is for some traumatic and for some very and shaming, ; as sensitive or not as law enforcement agencies can be in these scenarios.
Having guns in your vicinity held by men women in balaclavas predawn ain’t fun.
Then there’s the sometimes lengthy detention period ,to return home with no tangible benefit from the exercise .
As for returning .. I’d suggest any woman man other caught illegally in a raid is highly unlikely to get a returning visa after the min mandatory 3 year exclusion period is up
If the woman is pregnant to an Australian citizen and or married to .. then that changes things ... but altogether a different conversation.
Regular cops don't do immigration raids, just saying......
Sounds risky to bring your phone in to a massage place then. All sorts of texts and forum messages on phones
Not sure if I want to be disclosing my name or address, if I am just paying money for a massage which is legal. Can I ring my lawyer please?
That does depend and can be coordinated between state and federal policing and border farce and or others .Quote:
Originally Posted by Raybo
local council and policing of licences a different issue
Another lefty in the midst:grimace:Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiegaigin
More reason to go to a brothel than a massage shop. If the police barge in and Im undressed and busy, I can rightly insist I am doing absolutely nothing illegalQuote:
Originally Posted by liminal
Happy to assist with enquiries but I wont have ID with me, and may give a different name
Unless I am being charged I wont give my details
Trust me ... if they decide you are a person of interest , you are. if they want your ID they will insistQuote:
Originally Posted by murphy
However hapless punters are rarely the focus
As for massage versus brothel , all depends on preference however either can be a target.
Others maybe enlighten here, I’m unaware of by laws that prohibit nudity in a business where massage and other treatments occur.
however caught with a Condom another matter
How many known Rnt haunts are been regularly inspected of late and to the point they are shut down.?
As a customer you have nothing to worry about.
You have committed no crime (unless the girls are under 18 which is very highly unlikely).
If the shop is unlicensed (and we all know that 90% of R&T shops are) then that's the shops problem, not yours, you have done nothing wrong.
Actually even the shop has committed no crime, just a breach of Council By Laws, which is just like getting a parking ticket.
If you fucked a girl who doesn't have a valid visa that is not a crime.
You can look forward to a very generous compensation payout if an overzealous cop falsely arrests you.
See a lawyer and sue the arse off them.
A nice $10,00 compo payout will be nice funds for future punting.
Just for the record I am not a lefty and I am not anti-cop.
Cops are great, and I am all for law and order and arresting violent scum, and if some psycho axe murderer was trying to break into my house the cops would be the first people I would call.
I just have an issue with politicians, mayors, councilors etc using the cops to do things they were never meant to be doing.
And just for the record I only go to licensed brothels so I have no motivation for defending unlicensed shops.
Naked and ballsdeep at a massage parlour:Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
Do the police knock first or barge in?
Can you be arrested?
You cannot be arrested.
You have committed no crime.
If they do arrest you then you can sue them for false arrest and get a big compo payout.
Makes sense. Its just a reminder if I do visit a massage place, to not bring ID and keep everything I bring in to a minimum or not obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by rooter