Yet the mainstream media played it constantly, not even fact checking, telling everyone it was footage from China and people were collapsing in the streets from covid..Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
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Yet the mainstream media played it constantly, not even fact checking, telling everyone it was footage from China and people were collapsing in the streets from covid..Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
Dosent matter what you get just get one, these vaccines are absolutely safe, you wont see anyone in Indonesia, brazil or any of those emerging nations deciding they will pick or choose. Had astra im 57 , 28 more times of dying in a car accident than getting a jab with a vaccine, to f#cken and privelged and happy to sit in lockdown, bloody madness.
Stop telling other people what to do, mind your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budgyboy
Ok dickyboy sorry oh dannyboy just putting the truth out there. Not telling peoole what to do but giving scientific sound advice thats opening opening up the world you wanker.
And dont tell people to mind their own businesses on a public discusion forum you idiot. Thats what this place is about if putting the actual truth out there offends then fuck off go somewhere else and talk your shit. I like a good majority of guys on this forum take what you say as nothing but crap. Youve been told that on numerous occasisions you idiot.
Triggered much.. HahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Budgyboy
I had my first shot of AZ five and a half weeks ago, and one shot according to the experts means I'm hardly protected at all. It offers only "minimal" protection against delta. But two doses provide "substantial" protection to delta. Those with only one dose (like me) are like a whore with legs spread wide inviting delta to fuck us.
Here are the figures:
Two shots 12 weeks apart = 81% efficacy against catching it (delta and the other strains.) The other 19% catches it but the symptoms are mild and there are no hospitalisations.
Two shots between 4 weeks and 8 weeks apart = 60% efficacy against catching it.
Two shots between 9 and 11 weeks apart = 63.7% protection.
Second shot given at 12 weeks = 81.3% protection.
So just one week more delay between 11 weeks and 12 weeks gives you 27.6% more protection against catching it at all!
The Prime Minister and politicians generally should refrain from offering medical advice. In an effort to up the "fully vaccinated" numbers we've got Scott Morrison putting out the idea of getting your second shot of AZ sooner than the 12 week recommended. It is better just to take care not to catch covid and follow the 12 weeks recommended by medical experts, and, incidentally, the black and white data above.
Bro, you are like on bbfs at the moment the risk of getting darling DELTA is high so you have to use mask like condom for protection. Why didn't you get AZ early? I got my second Pfizer dose yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggurat
Also totally funny when they pushing people to get vac.nated when they actually don’t have the stock lol then blame some people don’t want vac. well, the majority are wating for it even some of my colleagues been waiting and still unable to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggurat
There is no wait on AZ
There is no wait at a number of clinics for first dose of AZ, but to get the second dose is up to 12 Weeks waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
Look if you compare with Pfizer you need a minimum of 3 weeks for your second dose from 1st dose (booking the Pfizer Vaccination has waiting list at most clinics)
Hope that clarifies what has been discussed earlier for you @Vader
There are people also discussing to have AZ second dose at 8 weeks as well
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I was commenting on the previous comment scoopQuote:
Originally Posted by scummonk
Sorry @Vader Definitely makes sense its easier to get AZ, from previous comment where they cannot get vaccinationQuote:
Originally Posted by Vader
Look the scoop and friends might be trying to get Pfizer Vaccination appointment.
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Agree with most of what you say, but this is incorrect and a common misunderstanding of what vaccine efficacy means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggurat
The percentage is a measure of how many fewer cases of infection are seen in a group of people who have taken the vaccine versus cases seen in a similar sized “control” group of people who haven’t had the vaccine (or been given a placebo instead).
So if a vaccine’s efficacy is given as 81%, the test group would see an 81% decrease in the number of infections as compared to the control group.
This is NOT the same as saying 81% of the test group are protected and the “other 19% catches it”, but it seems to be what most people automatically assume it to mean.
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/201/11/1607/850248
There is plenty of reading out there on vaccines . One thing common to a lot is the way they are handled & transported .
Especially if being stored at extremely cold temperatures .This means if Pfizer is mishandled might not be totally effective.
Manufactured in US, shipped to airport ,flown to OZ .transported all around OZ. Finally into your arm.
Bit like punting !!!!!!She is made O/S ,China ,Japan etc .Flies to OZ .You walk into shop .Pay your dos & just hope she's NOT A DUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had both Pfizer around a month apart. The first one gave me a bit of pain where it went in, similar to any normal vax. The second one was no issues at all but I developed very slight symptoms the next day. Must have been doing it's job and gives me a bit of peace of mind now
Got the astra shot on Tuesday, had slight mild tiredness and headache for 2 days but seems too go away . Having the 2nd shot in six weeks time
I had two shots of pfizer now. Second one was few days ago no side effects at all I did took a day off to prepare for it..abit of a sored arm again that it.
Hope everyone is getting it done soon. Our hobby is high risk ;).
Stay safe guys and girls !!
Yeah hopefully the girls can get vaccinated as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods23
Sent a few girls the link but I think it's a very long waiting period now.
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yeah i got mine booked next week pfizer - its been a 2mth wait for me.
My only gripe with the vaccines is that why they haven't given any concessions for people who have had their shots.
From what know wl/ml most have done it if they want to get the vax though an arrangement with sexual health clinics when they go an get the pussy check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
Basically if you want the Pfizer then you will have to wait and put up with some inconvenience.
You have to book online for one of the super vax centres and probably have to wait several weeks or maybe months for an appointment.
And on the day of your appointment you have to join a queue of hundreds of people and waste half a day.
A limited number of GPs have a very limited number of Pfizer vax, but again it will be difficult to get these.
If you feel OK about getting the Astra Zeneca then it is very simple.
Just book an appointment at any GP and you will get it done within a couple of days. In and out, very quick.
Very good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Or you can do what I have done and not have to wait at all to be protected. Have the AZ now, as rooter says. You get the best of both worlds, no waiting now, and then top up your battle ready immune system with the pfizer or moderna when it is plentiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
There's even a long wait for the AZ vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
I was at my GP and saw an elderly man, could hardly walk, probably closer to 90.
He asked about the vaccine and the earliest they could find him was due to a cancellation on 17th September.
He walked off saying he'll try somewhere else.
Not 100% sure if it was AZ, just assuming based on his age.
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