It sounds like you need a nice poem to help you reflect, think and relax...I'll see what I can do for you PP/JSQuote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
It sounds like you need a nice poem to help you reflect, think and relax...I'll see what I can do for you PP/JSQuote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
Agree with you. That's the easy way out, it is easy to keep borrowing and spending to create economic growth, and let the next governments to worry about bigger debt. It is also very easy to cut the budget from people who will never vote for you. But much harder to address the real problems, such as discouraging people to keep borrowing and spending more and more on unproductive housing, and encouraging more business investments to create new jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
Ezra Pound was the editor and mentor to TS Elliot, Ernest Hemmingway, James Joyce, W.B Yeats and Eustace Mullins.
Ezra had one the best minds and intellects of the 20th century. The american govt put him in an insane asylum for
apparently objecting to WW2, and America's involvement in WW2. There were no real criminal charges against him,
but when he said he would defend himself in any court, the govt got scared and put him in a funny farm without trial.
It took about 8 years to get Ezra out. It was Eustace Mullins who managed it in the 50s. Eustace was the last surviving
member of the group mentored by Ezra Pound, and Eustace died only a few years ago. If you're ever interested in knowing
what makes the world go round, you can checkout Eustace Mullins' earlier public speeches or rare interviews on youtube.
Eustace Mullins was the last great independent scholar of the 20th century - and a courageous man.
Eustace Mullins 1 - http://youtu.be/2h_V-ARe_nE
Eustace Mullins 2 - http://youtu.be/-YVaThDVIm8
the fuck you say? ezra pound was a fascist. He worked for fascist italy during ww2 producing anti-american fascist / nazi propoganda. after the war was over he was arrested by the americans for treason (tortured just a little) and incacerated
I am no politician nor economist, but I am a pretty good business manager who lived and works hard for my salary in the real work, and I am held accountable for the profit and loss of my employer and the company.
Sometimes , the government just have to run the country like a business:
The people of the country are the customers and all the incomes ,taxes, levies, GST etc are the incomes.
All the social welfare, infra structures, educations, health cares etc. are expenditures. In business, you can not spent more than you earn, but may be you can borrow money to sustain growth or invest in infra structure (building plants and purchases of equippments) but all these investments must make a positive returns within a reasonable time frame for the company to survive .
If the expenses far exceed the income and you can't increase the income stream, then the only way out is not to borrow more money but to cut expenses.
I personally went through a few corporate restructuring and also worked for company under receivership, it ain't pretty and the words cut, cut, cut are almost daily rituals !!
If you are the head of you department which had 30 staff, you could br told to cut 10 people in the next 7 days and take everything into considerations , the remaining people must raise their productivity dramatically so that they can keep the department functioning with 2/3 of the man power. Talking about tough decisions!
I don't think our country is in that bad shape yet, may be if we accept some pains now , there will be less pain in the future or for our children.
Remember that movie where George Cooney and another hot chick was doing exactly that to a lot companies to fix their "problems" hopefully we never have to call upon outside assistance to do the dirty works for us !!
The age of entitlements are gone !!
Just my two cents!
Cheers
Ezra was against the war, he knew it shouldn't have to occur. He was incarcerated for 8 uears without trial, then released.Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
He was not a traitor, that's why he was released. And he was put in an insane asylum brcause the US didn't want to got to
trial with Ezra defending himself at court. They would lose any court battle against Ezra, so they said he was insane and
needed to be put in the insane asylum. Eustace Mullins managed to get him out after about eight years.
Ezra was right about WW2; more than 60 million people died for no good reason. Can you justify the deaths of over 60 million during WW2.
Thankfully Eustace Mullins, the last living mentor of Ezra Pound and a very great scholar, was courageous enough to tell us what makes the world spin round.
Eustace Mullins 1 - http://youtu.be/2h_V-ARe_nE
Eustace Mullins 2 - http://youtu.be/-YVaThDVIm8
The ANZ-Roy Morgan Consumer Confidence survey charted a fall of 3.2 per cent since the budget, taking its index to 100.4 - a significant 14 points lower in a month and the fastest rate of descent since October 2008.
October 2008, of course, was a significant time: the month after Lehman Brothers collapsed and the global economy began to go down the tube. Well done Abbott.
Against the war? America joined the war after it was attacked by Japan (pearl habour) Also, nazi germany and fascist italy declared war against the usa way back in 1941. Isnt america entitled to act in self defence?
anyway, if ezra pound was such a pacifist why was he prepared to work for the mussolini regime?? fascist italy invaded albania and greece (and other countries) for no reason other than to steal their lands
n'ah, ezra was a hypocrite, traitor, racist, fascist apologist. by the way, the reason he went crazy is because the americans tortured him so badly after they captured him (LOL!)
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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe
Ezra Pound, tortured and incarcerated without charge for eight years for opposing WW2, and then more than 60million deaths during WW2.Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
It appears you think it was all worth while......the forces behind the creation of WW2, and more deaths since, don't take kindly to opposition.
Do you think think the deaths of more than 60million people during WW2 were justified?
100% agree. Especially on the point that Rudd is a wanker!Quote:
Originally Posted by henry
We should start the Syd99 Party. Better than that rubbish Sex Party, which are just a left wing communist party. Royal Flush can be Treasurer. Ah Lungor will be Leader!Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalFlush
haha ezra pound worked with the fascist mussolini regime to SUPPORT their war effort!!! He spread hate and sewed discord at every opportunity (a little like yourself!)
Anyway, my favorite ezra pound quote from one of his radio propoganda broadcasts: "You let in the Jew and the Jew rotted your empire, and you yourselves out-jewed the Jew ... And the big Jew has rotted EVERY nation he has wormed into"
Yeh the americans tortured him pretty bad when they captured him. They locked him up in a small wire cage for a month and when he emerged he was a wild animal LOL!!!!
America Govt against a lonely Ezra Pound, do you think the government covered itself with glory in their action,Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
only to let him free after eight years without ever being charged. Thankfully, Eustace Mullins got him out.
Ezra was right, that's why he was treated so harshly, as a lesson to all.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
My question is for the brothel and RnT shop owners. Does any of the budget changes mean a price rise for the services that you offer???
I took your question to a couple of very good friends of mine, and they said..."no,no..we do very good price for customer now...two, three dollar down.."Quote:
Originally Posted by Raybo
You see, they know their customers will be a few dollars worse off after the budget. Accordingly, they will bend like....willows to accommodate them.
Therefore, it's probably a no-impact budget as far as RnT punters are concerned. But you'll still need to ask for the three dollar discount, they're not stupid.
I doubt Bernie Banton's family would share your view.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Psst BTW it's Julie.
WayneK.
ezra was right? about what - the jews being the root of all evil???
so when you refered to the 'global media conspiracy' before who you claim are trying to destroy our culture and freedoms, do you think international jewry is behind this? the rothchild family?
You simple foolish fellow. You uneducated gullible idiot.
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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe
Unfortunately I must agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne
It is a shame that some people's beliefs are held with such conviction that they refuse to listen to
evidence to the contrary.
Maybe I should take George Carlin's advice:
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
WayneK.
As Mel Gibson once said to a very ignorant interviewer....."I think you have a dog in this fight, right."Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
I'm a well read, post-grad educated, truth-seeking, creative, spiritual, wise man. That's what I am....and a poet - have you voted yet for my poetry?
I reckon his Alfoil headwear is little tight and cutting off circulation to what passes for his brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by greybeard_
He seems to get all his info and "ideas" from the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. He is just proudly displaying his racist tendencies again.
Renders everything he says moot. **shrugs**
Yep, people need to remember that this "budget" has nothing... as in ZERO to do with any budget emergency (which doesn't exist) or need to get our affairs in order.Quote:
Originally Posted by waynekerr
It is about ideology, pure and simple.
That ideology being that if you are rich then you deserve everything, people should be grateful to you for any rotten scraps you throw at them and you shouldn't have to help anyone, whereas if you are poor, sick or disabled, you have no one to blame but yourself and you should hang your head in shame.
This is shown most clearly in the new Higher Education plans, where people who are intelligent, but poor, will miss out University places, while if you are a rich dumbass you can simply buy your degree :(
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This is shown most clearly in the new Higher Education plans, where people who are intelligent, but poor, will miss out University places, while if you are a rich dumbass you can simply buy your degree :([/QUOTE]
I don't think this is true !
People can still get HECs , in fact more young people can get higher educations in TAFE and other institutes by getting HECs there too, and more scholarships will be on offer. So if the kids have good grades , they can certainly get into Uni .
Directly from Joe the other night !
Gee if Joe said it then it must be true!Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
The government wants to let unis charge whatever they want, saying that this will lead to increased competition and therefore a better deal for students (aways the justification for privatization and deregulation but rarely actually benefits the consumer).
At the same time they want to cut uni funding. How do you think unis will make up this funding shortfall? The vice chancellor of UTS yesterday said most courses will go up by 30-40%.
Add new interest charges to HECs debt plus a lower income threshold to start paying it off and it adds up to a serious amount. Many students from poorer and even middle class backgrounds will think twice about going to uni and be stuck on lower incomes. We already have science and engineering graduate shortages and it'll only get worse for these and other disciplines.
Despite Joe saying he's doing these cuts for the kids, I don't see a bright future at all for the younger generation in this budget.
Btw, Joe Hockey went to uni for free and as a student protested the introduction of fees.
I accept its a cut in higher education funding and lead to higher Uni fees, interest rate will kick in and the lower threshold for repayment so the graduates will start paying back earlier !Quote:
Originally Posted by cleetusvandamme
Yes, it's getting tougher, but please don't blame Joe and Tony!
This is what I don't understand at all, people should be angry and point their fingers on the government who put the country in this situation in the first place !!
When Kevin Rudd took over government in 2007, we were in a comfortable surplus position, who put us in this shit hole today where we have to cut, cut, cut ???
And if we don't cut from somewhere, we have to continue to borrow money to keep up with the expenditures , how long can we keep running the country in the RED !!
Joe is trying to fix the big mess left by Labour, lets not sugar coat this !!