**RETURN FACTOR** GINZA / 278 / 479 CLUB ** MULTI SHORT REVIEW ONLY

broke my ginza virginity today. I exclusively went to G42 before so I can make some comparisons.

- Lots of girls that have good ARs so doing a walk-in wasn't too bad of a bet. But more busy and basically a brothel split into two locations means that you can't exactly see the line-up in person (Maybe if it wasn't Friday night). Whereas 42G you can always however the lineup is a bit more limited.
- Decor is fancy and definitely feels more upscale. Front-Desk receptionist were good! Had banter and tried to make recommendations. Very catering. Also I liked that they really try to take feedback in.
- Walking from Empire to Club because they had no rooms after making a booking in person is interesting.
- Bit cheaper for the newer girls than 42G (where most are straight up $300). I liked the price ranges better.
- Girl was great and would definitely see her again :).
- I really did not like the receptionist at Club - he looked like he wanted to kill himself, had a stank face. Didn't say Hi or anything. This was whatever.
- My main qualm - after finishing the session - which we overran about 10-20 mins because both of us were enjoying our time. The receptionist said to me that I was over time and that I should've stopped the session if the girl doesn't answer the phone. I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. Then he proceeded to ask me about the session for feedback with his dead face lol.

Anyway I'm not sure I'd come here again due to inconvenience but the WL is tempting me for a return.

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Originally Posted by dwaggon

broke my ginza virginity today. I exclusively went to G42 before so I can make some comparisons.

- Lots of girls that have good ARs so doing a walk-in wasn't too bad of a bet. But more busy and basically a brothel split into two locations means that you can't exactly see the line-up in person (Maybe if it wasn't Friday night). Whereas 42G you can always however the lineup is a bit more limited.
- Decor is fancy and definitely feels more upscale. Front-Desk receptionist were good! Had banter and tried to make recommendations. Very catering. Also I liked that they really try to take feedback in.
- Walking from Empire to Club because they had no rooms after making a booking in person is interesting.
- Bit cheaper for the newer girls than 42G (where most are straight up $300). I liked the price ranges better.
- Girl was great and would definitely see her again :).
- I really did not like the receptionist at Club - he looked like he wanted to kill himself, had a stank face. Didn't say Hi or anything. This was whatever.
- My main qualm - after finishing the session - which we overran about 10-20 mins because both of us were enjoying our time. The receptionist said to me that I was over time and that I should've stopped the session if the girl doesn't answer the phone. I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. Then he proceeded to ask me about the session for feedback with his dead face lol.

Anyway I'm not sure I'd come here again due to inconvenience but the WL is tempting me for a return.

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Lol I am not quite sure if this is meant to be a review or comparison of No42 Glades and the Ginza shops OR just bagging out reception and throwing shade haha

if the girl is genuinely good and you had a good time regardless of the shop, why not post AR and details of the girl and session? As is the purpose of this thread

So you started off with "Front desk reception were good and friendly and then walk from empire to club" and then from reception friendly going a complete 180 degree flip saying how bad and rude they are with the stank face and not say hi after your session?

Could this be because u went like 10-20mins over mate?

I've been going Ginza few years now and rarely ever have i seen them not say hello to customers... yes they sometimes annoyed or busy as we have shit days but i've never seen them take this out on customers or be rude to them
Unless that customer was in the wrong or tried something shifty with the girl

Also your story doesnt quite add up... so you booked a girl at empire and was told to go Club? i've never seen that happen unless you mean told to go to 278?

so dont understand why booking and seeing a girl from empire led you to giving feedback to Club reception

sounds like perhaps you get VIP treatment at No42 Glades shop where they happily let you go over and was expecting the same at Ginza? hahaha

maybe perhaps next time, stick to your booking time that you paid for and not go over by so much (10-20mins is a big big range thats almost shortchanging the shop 15mins of the girls rate)?

Shops aside think about other customers and some common courtesy - those customers complaining about their booking times getting pushed back and also customers complain why they are in waiting room so long.... looks like we found one of the reasons

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

Lol I am not quite sure if this is meant to be a review or comparison of No42 Glades and the Ginza shops OR just bagging out reception and throwing shade haha

if the girl is genuinely good and you had a good time regardless of the shop, why not post AR and details of the girl and session? As is the purpose of this thread

So you started off with "Front desk reception were good and friendly and then walk from empire to club" and then from reception friendly going a complete 180 degree flip saying how bad and rude they are with the stank face and not say hi after your session?

Could this be because u went like 10-20mins over mate?

I've been going Ginza few years now and rarely ever have i seen them not say hello to customers... yes they sometimes annoyed or busy as we have shit days but i've never seen them take this out on customers or be rude to them
Unless that customer was in the wrong or tried something shifty with the girl

Also your story doesnt quite add up... so you booked a girl at empire and was told to go Club? i've never seen that happen unless you mean told to go to 278?

so dont understand why booking and seeing a girl from empire led you to giving feedback to Club reception

sounds like perhaps you get VIP treatment at No42 Glades shop where they happily let you go over and was expecting the same at Ginza? hahaha

maybe perhaps next time, stick to your booking time that you paid for and not go over by so much (10-20mins is a big big range thats almost shortchanging the shop 15mins of the girls rate)?

Shops aside think about other customers and some common courtesy - those customers complaining about their booking times getting pushed back and also customers complain why they are in waiting room so long.... looks like we found one of the reasons

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To be fair, for some people - the service at reception is a factor. For example, the mamasan at Kyoto206 is a real nutcase, so all other things being equal I rather Sakura57 where the Papasan is more reasonable - whenever I tire of Ginza's over red lighting.

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Originally Posted by Abracadabra

Really ? 40s ?
You can't tell from Ginza photos but those that have seen her would have a take on her approx age surely..
Nothing wrong with 40s if they are in shape..

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Originally Posted by wcukewa

Those photos are few years old at least. Last saw Daisy before covid when she is still at Ginza. About 80% of how she looked compare to those photos. Maybe more cosmetic surgery after she left ginza.

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Zenxxx was replying to Domino pizza, and they were referring to another WL working in Zetland who was not from Ginza. Daisy is defo not in her 40s, lol...

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Originally Posted by dwaggon

broke my ginza virginity today. I exclusively went to G42 before so I can make some comparisons.

- Lots of girls that have good ARs so doing a walk-in wasn't too bad of a bet. But more busy and basically a brothel split into two locations means that you can't exactly see the line-up in person (Maybe if it wasn't Friday night). Whereas 42G you can always however the lineup is a bit more limited.
- Decor is fancy and definitely feels more upscale. Front-Desk receptionist were good! Had banter and tried to make recommendations. Very catering. Also I liked that they really try to take feedback in.
- Walking from Empire to Club because they had no rooms after making a booking in person is interesting.
- Bit cheaper for the newer girls than 42G (where most are straight up $300). I liked the price ranges better.
- Girl was great and would definitely see her again :).
- I really did not like the receptionist at Club - he looked like he wanted to kill himself, had a stank face. Didn't say Hi or anything. This was whatever.
- My main qualm - after finishing the session - which we overran about 10-20 mins because both of us were enjoying our time. The receptionist said to me that I was over time and that I should've stopped the session if the girl doesn't answer the phone. I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. Then he proceeded to ask me about the session for feedback with his dead face lol.

Anyway I'm not sure I'd come here again due to inconvenience but the WL is tempting me for a return.

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You're right, better stay away from the Ginzas. In fact, I think the only good shop in Sydney is 42G so you ought to stick to that, don't go anywhere else. Mmm-kay?

FMD, overtime by 20 fucking minutes. Thank fuck I rarely go to 42G.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

You're right, better stay away from the Ginzas. In fact, I think the only good shop in Sydney is 42G so you ought to stick to that, don't go anywhere else. Mmm-kay?

FMD, overtime by 20 fucking minutes. Thank fuck I rarely go to 42G.

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What a goose, goes overtime and still complains about it.

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

Lol I am not quite sure if this is meant to be a review or comparison of No42 Glades and the Ginza shops OR just bagging out reception and throwing shade haha

if the girl is genuinely good and you had a good time regardless of the shop, why not post AR and details of the girl and session? As is the purpose of this thread

So you started off with "Front desk reception were good and friendly and then walk from empire to club" and then from reception friendly going a complete 180 degree flip saying how bad and rude they are with the stank face and not say hi after your session?

Could this be because u went like 10-20mins over mate?

I've been going Ginza few years now and rarely ever have i seen them not say hello to customers... yes they sometimes annoyed or busy as we have shit days but i've never seen them take this out on customers or be rude to them
Unless that customer was in the wrong or tried something shifty with the girl

Also your story doesnt quite add up... so you booked a girl at empire and was told to go Club? i've never seen that happen unless you mean told to go to 278?

so dont understand why booking and seeing a girl from empire led you to giving feedback to Club reception

sounds like perhaps you get VIP treatment at No42 Glades shop where they happily let you go over and was expecting the same at Ginza? hahaha

maybe perhaps next time, stick to your booking time that you paid for and not go over by so much (10-20mins is a big big range thats almost shortchanging the shop 15mins of the girls rate)?

Shops aside think about other customers and some common courtesy - those customers complaining about their booking times getting pushed back and also customers complain why they are in waiting room so long.... looks like we found one of the reasons

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Yes I went to Empire 479 Elizabeth at first for a walk-in then they booked me and told me to do the 5min walk to Club 278 Cleveland as they had no rooms left at Empire. When I was waiting in line to talk to reception another punter was also told to do the same thing. I didn't care too much about this.

Reception at Empire is good, Club was not. Two different things. I don't mind the complaint about going over time as its fair, its the way he dealt with it. I recall now that the complaint were the first things coming out of his mouth that I was overtime by 12 mins. He wasn't respectful before or after me going over time.

At 42G they ring and talk on the telecom, then they come knock on the door if theres no response, ask me if I had a good time and thank you on the way out - this is the correct approach for customer retention, rather than trying to roast the customer and blame him that it went over time. If a girl has another booking then of course we'll get out on time. I am not glazing 42G but comparing the practices with examples.

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Originally Posted by dwaggon

Yes I went to Empire 479 Elizabeth at first for a walk-in then they booked me and told me to do the 5min walk to Club 278 Cleveland as they had no rooms left at Empire. When I was waiting in line to talk to reception another punter was also told to do the same thing. I didn't care too much about this.

Reception at Empire is good, Club was not. Two different things. I don't mind the complaint about going over time as its fair, its the way he dealt with it. I recall now that the complaint were the first things coming out of his mouth that I was overtime by 12 mins. He wasn't respectful before or after me going over time.

At 42G they ring and talk on the telecom, then they come knock on the door if theres no response, ask me if I had a good time and thank you on the way out - this is the correct approach for customer retention, rather than trying to roast the customer and blame him that it went over time. If a girl has another booking then of course we'll get out on time. I am not glazing 42G but comparing the practices with examples.

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At 42G they knock on the door, this is something you have experienced there? Detecting a bit of a pattern.

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Originally Posted by Johny77

At 42G they knock on the door, this is something you have experienced there? Detecting a bit of a pattern.

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Yeah it's happened exactly once. I'm impressed for you to think that I'm able to get extra minutes in a session everytime.

Jesus it's like I'm talking to a brick wall.
All good mate, if that's all can be absorbed and discussed then yes it was all my fault. I'm visiting Ginza again this week so I guess good luck that you're not after me.

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Originally Posted by dwaggon

Yeah it's happened exactly once. I'm impressed for you to think that I'm able to get extra minutes in a session everytime.

Jesus it's like I'm talking to a brick wall.
All good mate, if that's all can be absorbed and discussed then yes it was all my fault. I'm visiting Ginza again this week so I guess good luck that you're not after me.

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It was just an observation given what you said about 42G knocking on doors etc. That was all.

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Originally Posted by Endo123

To be fair, for some people - the service at reception is a factor. For example, the mamasan at Kyoto206 is a real nutcase, so all other things being equal I rather Sakura57 where the Papasan is more reasonable - whenever I tire of Ginza's over red lighting.

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Yeaaa hundred percent! There’s an older Asian bloke and younger Asian girl at Kyoto that are pretty good but the older milf seems to be on pms every other day just like a lady by Ms S at no5 lol … no42 have a top blood who knew by on first name basis when I used to go a lot

CBD receptions are very hit and miss esp when they’re busy

I’m saying overall all else being equal Ginza for me are up there in terms of reception service the fact they respond so quick to bookings and take feedback after each punt and actually note it down is respect

Other places note down the feedback mentally and go ok bye can tell they clearly don’t mean it

So the fact reception was rude to that person probs something triggered it Lol

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

You're right, better stay away from the Ginzas. In fact, I think the only good shop in Sydney is 42G so you ought to stick to that, don't go anywhere else. Mmm-kay?

FMD, overtime by 20 fucking minutes. Thank fuck I rarely go to 42G.

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Bahahahaha

I do agree that no42 is more chill and laid back with the privacy curtain and not as being as frantic busy like no5 and the Ginzas

I don’t think the girls watch time as much maybe they are not as busy? One time I went in summer and the girl after shower and during catbath was like omg it’s so hot we couldn’t change the aircon so she just grabbed our stuff and we went to another empty room was kinda hot running across the hall naked l
Lmaooo

Another time we changed rooms cos the shower tap was like broken… I think overall the laid back vibe cos they aren’t as crazy busy? Some of the Ginza girls literally got no break for 5-6 hrs straight…

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Originally Posted by dwaggon

broke my ginza virginity today. I exclusively went to G42 before so I can make some comparisons.

- Lots of girls that have good ARs so doing a walk-in wasn't too bad of a bet. But more busy and basically a brothel split into two locations means that you can't exactly see the line-up in person (Maybe if it wasn't Friday night). Whereas 42G you can always however the lineup is a bit more limited.
- Decor is fancy and definitely feels more upscale. Front-Desk receptionist were good! Had banter and tried to make recommendations. Very catering. Also I liked that they really try to take feedback in.
- Walking from Empire to Club because they had no rooms after making a booking in person is interesting.
- Bit cheaper for the newer girls than 42G (where most are straight up $300). I liked the price ranges better.
- Girl was great and would definitely see her again :).
- I really did not like the receptionist at Club - he looked like he wanted to kill himself, had a stank face. Didn't say Hi or anything. This was whatever.
- My main qualm - after finishing the session - which we overran about 10-20 mins because both of us were enjoying our time. The receptionist said to me that I was over time and that I should've stopped the session if the girl doesn't answer the phone. I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. Then he proceeded to ask me about the session for feedback with his dead face lol.

Anyway I'm not sure I'd come here again due to inconvenience but the WL is tempting me for a return.

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Originally Posted by Johny77

It was just an observation given what you said about 42G knocking on doors etc. That was all.

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Lmaooo just observation and going off the last few sentences in your AR … “ I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. ”

Unless we’re all reading it wrong?

This is just me but girls come and go no matter how beautiful they’ll eventually age or quit… always pays to be nice and respectful to reception and not get on their bad books esp if you want better chances with their top tier girls like IU Rebecca Jessie Len and Ice…. But hey that’s just my take

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

This is just me but girls come and go no matter how beautiful they’ll eventually age or quit… always pays to be nice and respectful to reception and not get on their bad books esp if you want better chances with their top tier girls like IU Rebecca Jessie Len and Ice…. But hey that’s just my take

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Yet to visit Ginza. It’s on my list. You make a fair point. It would definitely pay to be respectful toward the girl and reception/owners.

I wish shops would post real age

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

Lmaooo just observation and going off the last few sentences in your AR … “ I was not happy and basically told him that it wasn't my responsibility just because it's busy, and he was 10 steps away from the room and could've done something himself. I've never had this at 42G where I also ran overtime with many other WLs. ”

Unless we’re all reading it wrong?

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Knocking on the door has only happened once IIRC - otherwise it is just telecoms and there's a speaker through the room. Anyway I've never had a session where the receptionist has been like that before or after so it was a key thing for me. I wouldn't go to an establishment if the papasan or mamasan was not accommodating. We're paying pretty good money I'd expect respect and good service as a customer. Two-way street.

Either way it's whatever and I don't expect it to happen again going off whatever others are saying that the staff is generally respectful here. Before the session the kid looked like he was death staring me so it gave me bad vibes and it was a bit awkward as I walked in I thought I was going to get murdered. I'll see how it goes when I see him again this week if he's working :sweat:

Had a very enjoyable session with the new V Jennie at Ginza empire, definitely a gfe expert as her profile description says

42 G is on the my way between home and work, I have not been there over half year, fake pictures of WLS who are different from real ones not heavy retouched after booking. The receptionists look like guards who ready to throw you out at any time except Japanese guy.