Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

In the year 2018, there were 1.445 millions of Chinese visitors to Australia, say each person only spent $2,000 here, you do the sums !

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That's about AUD 3 billion, I guess it would be less this year...

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Originally Posted by Climax598

So Ginza have the chip scanner. So they can read my passport.

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It that real? Can't be that easy to get that kind of reader, right?

The Macao government has just announced as from midnight tonight. All casinos and entertainment venues in Macao will be closed for 15 days to avoid mass gathering of people and therefore eliminating most risks of spreading the virus ! Staff will be paid their usual wages to stay home .

Ps. Yes, that will include all sauna massage, nightclubs and Karaoke bars . So ALL punting activities will be stopped !

"Chinese sex workers in New Zealand
are claiming to be Korean, Japanese, or simply “Asian” in their online advertisements as clients give them a wide berth amid fears over the coronavirus outbreak"

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...and-suffer-dip

Soooo. Anyone want to share their experience with the whole passport checking thing?

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

The Macao government has just announced as from midnight tonight. All casinos and entertainment venues in Macao will be closed for 15 days to avoid mass gathering of people and therefore eliminating most risks of spreading the virus ! Staff will be paid their usual wages to stay home .

Ps. Yes, that will include all sauna massage, nightclubs and Karaoke bars . So ALL punting activities will be stopped !

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Wow imagine the amount of coin they will be loosing ?

Many business's are going to go broke due to this.

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Originally Posted by Meng

Soooo. Anyone want to share their experience with the whole passport checking thing?

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This passport checking is hard to swallow, gonna hurt their business a lot. Not many people want to show their papers at a brothel!
An easier way is to just use your phone "timeline" page to show where you've been recently. Tough luck if you switched off this feature because you're a privacy freak, though.
On Android, just go to your Google Maps app and open the "Your Timeline" page and it'll show where you've been historically. Even better, this info cannot be edited as far as I know.
Not an iPhone user so don't know how to get this info there, but it is definitely there as well.

NZ WL/ML giving discount because of the virus https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...box=1580791583

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

This passport checking is hard to swallow, gonna hurt their business a lot. Not many people want to show their papers at a brothel!
An easier way is to just use your phone "timeline" page to show where you've been recently. Tough luck if you switched off this feature because you're a privacy freak, though.
On Android, just go to your Google Maps app and open the "Your Timeline" page and it'll show where you've been historically. Even better, this info cannot be edited as far as I know.
Not an iPhone user so don't know how to get this info there, but it is definitely there as well.

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Yea I was thinking the same thing in terms of less business but was wondering if anyone has done it already? What’s the process in terms of reception? What do they check and how to they check it? Do they (and I hope not) take a photo or a scan of your passport?

"Of the 12 previously reported cases, 3 have recovered. The others are in a stable condition"

Good news folks! quoted from health gov au.

patients around the world are being released as well.

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Originally Posted by eveeveeve

"Chinese sex workers in New Zealand
are claiming to be Korean, Japanese, or simply “Asian” in their online advertisements as clients give them a wide berth amid fears over the coronavirus outbreak"

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...and-suffer-dip

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Yep.

I called it in another thread (Ginza / 479).

As much as I might have a go at my own race for stuff they do which pisses me off, its not fair to lump everyone together. You can imagine how much bullshit is going on atm especially in schools.

Show some confidence in C girls and punt. You might get the service of your lifetime right now lol.

I might give SV a visit this Thurs if I have time.

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !

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Looks like the mortality rate is coming down.

That's 2.01%, I think it was 2.07% before.

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !

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Chill out dude. You’re playing into the media’s hands in trying to convince people it’s the end of the world. Have a look at the below URL on the CDC website estimating flu related deaths in 2018 and 2019.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Flu related deaths estimated at around 30-60 thousand. Compared to the mortality rate of the novel Coronavirus which is still in the 3 digit number and only causes death to those who are either elderly or in some way immune compromised (e.g infants, cancer patients, HIV patients etc.) there is really nothing to panic over. Heck I reckon if I got it and with proper quarantine and care I’d get over it just like the common flu.

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Originally Posted by retrospect

*If you switched off this feature because you are a normal person who doesn't feel comfortable with strangers watching everything they do.

There, fixed that for you.

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I am surprised not many people are doing this. Easy just switch off for a while before going punting. So no traces whatsoever.

I have deleted location history from google before. Heck you can delete your entire data from google if you wish. Hard to keep up though, coz alot of things are set to on as default

Auckland punter scene is going to take off! Will be good news for everyone once this coronavirus phase is over... Hopefully it's sooner rather than later

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Originally Posted by retrospect

This is not like the flu. Your information is wrong. Viral pnumonia requiring oxygen is a common feature of this disease. This is the case for healthy adults also. Secondary infection is also common. The Coronavirus produces a very large amount of virus in the blood and seems to suppress white cell production - nothing like the flu.

It is also very infectious and while it does kill more elderly it still makes adults gravely ill sometimes leading to death.

If you want to compare to the flu, take your flu deaths and multiply by 20 as it is about 20 times as deadly. The flu infects 15 to 30% of the population in a bad year. This virus is about twice as infectious, maybe more so. So take the number you got above and double it. Then assume that the number hospitalised for treatment and recover is is about ten times that. It takes up to a month to recover for a serious case.

So 40k flu deaths x20x2 = 160k deaths in the USA. And 1.6 million hospitalised. I'm sure they have enough beds and oxygen masks.

Of course no one knows how things will go but the situation is serious. We do not have the capacity to treat hundreds of thousands of cases. The world will not end. But your suggestion that is is no worse than the flu is wrong and a foolish way to think. Just because it is in China affecting Chinese doesn't mean it isn't real. Hyundai has just shut down all of its factories in Korea. Vw, Toyota, gm, and Apple have shut down their Chinese factories. Even if some miracle stops it spreading today, it will affect you.

Good news is punting doesn't put you at any greater risk than shopping or eating out or using a public toilet or going to the cinema...

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Ok so check out flu symptoms from the CDC (a reputable source of information)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

One of the excerpts mentions that some complications may occur such as pneumonia. This is for the common flu.

Now also the excerpt for Coronavirus.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019.../symptoms.html

Now I’m not saying the novel Coronavirus won’t cause pneumonia. I’m just saying so does the flu which again kills 30-60 thousand people on average per year in the US. In fact a specific strain of the Coronavirus (not the novel Coronavirus) is one of the viruses that causes the common flu.

As I said people should check on reputable sources of information like the department of health, CDC etc and not pander to media hype.

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Originally Posted by Meng

Ok so check out flu symptoms from the CDC (a reputable source of information)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

One of the excerpts mentions that some complications may occur such as pneumonia. This is for the common flu.

Now also the excerpt for Coronavirus.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019.../symptoms.html

Now I’m not saying the novel Coronavirus won’t cause pneumonia. I’m just saying so does the flu which again kills 30-60 thousand people on average per year in the US. In fact a specific strain of the Coronavirus (not the novel Coronavirus) is one of the viruses that causes the common flu.

As I said people should check on reputable sources of information like the department of health, CDC etc and not pander to media hype.

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Reading this comment, there is no hope for humanity!
If Coronavirus won't kill human, I think their giant ego which yells out "I am smarter than everyone else" will surely be the doom of us all.

You should definitely go to Wuhan yourself and let us know whether it is media hype or for real. After all, like you said, even if you get the virus, it's just common cold; you will get over it.

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Originally Posted by yug

Reading this comment, there is no hope for humanity!
If Coronavirus won't kill human, I think their giant ego which yells out "I am smarter than everyone else" will surely be the doom of us all.

You should definitely go to Wuhan yourself and let us know whether it is media hype or for real. After all, like you said, even if you get the virus, it's just common cold; you will get over it.

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All I’m saying is be well informed and get your information from reputable sources. Do you disagree with this statement?

Can I ask where you get your sources of information from? I hope it’s not news.com.au lol

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Originally Posted by sydpunt

I am surprised not many people are doing this. Easy just switch off for a while before going punting. So no traces whatsoever.

I have deleted location history from google before. Heck you can delete your entire data from google if you wish. Hard to keep up though, coz alot of things are set to on as default

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Yeah, sometimes it gets locations wildly wrong as well. I was using it to help my memory while filling out a time sheet and it placed me at a company in Silverwater that was in direct competition with my current employer at that time. The nearest I'd been was a train from epping to city via strathfield.

Deleted that shit asap before anyone saw it over my shoulder, and stopped using the "feature".

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Originally Posted by Riff888

Looks like the mortality rate is coming down.

That's 2.01%, I think it was 2.07% before.

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Use common sense and think about it. Number of deaths divided by number of people having it.... Do you really believe that's the correct way to calculate mortality rate?
The real rate is actually number of deaths vs number of recoveries... People who have got it and then recovered from it. That number is not yet being published widely simply because it is such a new virus.
Therefore, I personally rubbish any claims at mortality rates at this point. Up to you what you want to do

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Originally Posted by retrospect

I look at more than one source. The main sources for my previous comment were the who and johns Hopkins for numbers, and a couple of case reports, particularly one in the new England journal of med from the first case in the USA. We do not have a lot of good information at this stage.

The flu can be a serious disease too. Seasonal flu is not. If we had a flu strain in China with similar characteristics to this Coronavirus, it would also be a serious situation. If bird flu started human to human transmission, I would seriously consider heading for the hills.

There is more to assessing the danger of an outbreak than just the mortality rate. We could have 200 cases of Ebola in Sydney and I probably would not be very concerned.

It is almost inevitable now that this outbreak will establish in Australia at some point. It is hard to say how it will go when it does. Hopefully we will cope better than the Chinese but that will come down mostly to chance. If we can keep it out this winter it would help a lot. I expect europe to be affected over their coming winter and there will be a lot of lessons from that.

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WHO and JH is a reputable source. Can you link me to some of the articles. I’m genuinely interested in reading about it.

Latest figures:

Confirmed Coronavirus cases in China now over 30,000

Deads 630 (618 were from the WuBei province)

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Originally Posted by Meng

Chill out dude. You’re playing into the media’s hands in trying to convince people it’s the end of the world. .

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Sorry Meng,

If that's made you felt this way.

Just trying to keep an eye on the progress of the crisis. and looking forward to seeing the figures started slowing down or dropping and people getting well and can be released to go home !

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._138758836.htm