Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by wilisno

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._138758836.htm

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Hope it works

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I was wondering a bit about all this myself. I don't think there's really too many concerns. The passport scanning seems insane.

I have noticed some shops posting notices about how they aren't letting any girls who have been to China in for the next couple of weeks to put punters minds at ease.

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.

It’s the end of the world as we know it

And I feel fine

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Use common sense and think about it. Number of deaths divided by number of people having it.... Do you really believe that's the correct way to calculate mortality rate?
The real rate is actually number of deaths vs number of recoveries...

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WTF are you talking about? The mortality rate is the percentage of people dying who have/had the Coronavirus. So it's simple maths. Total number of deaths divided by total confirmed cases. Around 2%.

Going by your formula: Total deaths divided by total recoveries you end up with a figure around 40%.

Live stats from:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...41f3eed5ca67fb

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Originally Posted by snapjaw

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.

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So he did die then. Had heard that was false and he was just really sick and so now he has died.

A pity too he was investigated for spreading rumours when he tried to warn people...

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Originally Posted by muni7ad

So he did die then. Had heard that was false and he was just really sick and so now he has died.

A pity too he was investigated for spreading rumours when he tried to warn people...

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Too true but what do you expect

On a more positive note, brothels are now providing punters with face masks to stop the spread of Coronavirus.

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Originally Posted by retrospect

I think he is referring to the fact that some of those who are classed are infected and currently alive will end up dying. So dead over total infected will underestimate the death rate because you are assuming they will all recover. You could instead apportion those that are alive infected according to the ratio of dead to recovered.

But that wouldn't be accurate either ss it probably takes longer to recover than it did to die. So I couldn't be bothered calculating it as it's too early to get an accurate death rate anyway. 2% isn't accurate, it's just an early indication. 2%of those infected have died *so far *.

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Yes that is what I meant.

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Originally Posted by LoveGlove

On a more positive note, brothels are now providing punters with face masks to stop the spread of Coronavirus.

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LOOL!!

As for the rates, it should be 2 different calculations right?

A mortality and recovery?

If you have it and you pass away from it = part of mortality stat

If you have it and recover = part of recovery stat.

I cant be bothered to crunch the numbers but anyone got those? This will tell us essentially how "Strong" the virus. I.e high recovery and low mortality means its weak and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by snapjaw

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.

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Correct spelling is cytokine storm.... Causes your own immune system to attack your own body, which is why healthier, stronger people die from it more often than weaker ones. The Spanish Flu from 1918 - 1919 caused the same condition, killed mostly otherwise young and healthy people.
I didn't hear this rumour but Geez if this new virus really causes cytokine storm, we are seriously fucked. That shit is really really hard to recover from!

Thanks for the correction Goldfish, I told you I wasn't an expert [emoji23]

Right now the official recovery rate looks better than mortalities but given the rumours of mass cremations by the Chinese authorities, I'm wondering what the real numbers are like.

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Originally Posted by Pleck

Too true but what do you expect

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I know but can dream. Would have been dealt with by now if responded earlier maybe.. Flashbacks of that Chernobyl series with playing things down until they no longer could.

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Originally Posted by F0x

LOOL!!

As for the rates, it should be 2 different calculations right?

A mortality and recovery?

If you have it and you pass away from it = part of mortality stat

If you have it and recover = part of recovery stat.

I cant be bothered to crunch the numbers but anyone got those? This will tell us essentially how "Strong" the virus. I.e high recovery and low mortality means its weak and vice versa.

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Wouldn't recovery just be 100 minus mortality? Or counting those still infected in some way.

Another break down could be serious problems. While mortality may be low I saw something saying that a large percent need mechanically assisted breathing while sick..

Surprising stats coming out of Singapore this morning with 33 confirmed cases, which is a lot considering Hong Kong only has 26 ?

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

Surprising stats coming out of Singapore this morning with 33 confirmed cases, which is a lot considering Hong Kong only has 26 ?

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Not much transmission with the HK protests so people not travelling much? Singapore being more honest or more recent count?

Maybe just luck.

The virus is spreading to many countries. Any plans to travel to countries in Asia would not be advisable and going on cruises now is a no no.

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Originally Posted by cuteguy

The virus is spreading to many countries. Any plans to travel to countries in Asia would not be advisable and going on cruises now is a no no.

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A cruise ship got stopped out Japan or Australia recently and people are stuck there. Was thinking a cruise for this year but maybe not...

Cruise ships have tightened up controls now, no more guests recently arrived from China allowed, and you have to bring additional documentation to the ship, such as proof of address, recent bill showing your name & address here, passport etc (acquaintance is going on a cruise today). Hopefully should be enough to prevent any outbreaks on board.

Cruise ships are the worst place to catch something, lots of people in a confined area, always sharing contacts indirectly by touching taps, door knobs, railings etc.

One of the worst symptom of the Coronavirus is the inability to breathe properly. Probably wise to invest in an oxygen tank and mask.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/wor...cb45f6d58e9418
Imagine being trapped in a small room as the virus spreads just outside your door and you can't disembark, absolutely terrifying.
On a positive note, the virus hasn't spread much here in NSW, its been stuck at 4 infected for some time now.

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Originally Posted by snapjaw

Cruise ships have tightened up controls now, no more guests recently arrived from China allowed, and you have to bring additional documentation to the ship, such as proof of address, recent bill showing your name & address here, passport etc (acquaintance is going on a cruise today). Hopefully should be enough to prevent any outbreaks on board.

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That's really good to hear. Makes sense with how awful cruise ships are for sickness anyway. Might just end up with the healthiest cruises for a while with everyone being paranoid.

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Originally Posted by dt333

Cruise ships are the worst place to catch something, lots of people in a confined area, always sharing contacts indirectly by touching taps, door knobs, railings etc.

One of the worst symptom of the Coronavirus is the inability to breathe properly. Probably wise to invest in an oxygen tank and mask.

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The main advice I've read is that washing your hands all the time is the best. After touching other people or surfaces for good sanitary practices..

The breathing part of the virus is scary with so many infected needing to be put in mechanical assist breathing

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Originally Posted by Clownfiesta

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/wor...cb45f6d58e9418
Imagine being trapped in a small room as the virus spreads just outside your door and you can't disembark, absolutely terrifying.
On a positive note, the virus hasn't spread much here in NSW, its been stuck at 4 infected for some time now.

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Meanwhile QLD got its fifth confirm yesterday or the day before.

Royal Carribean banning all those with chinese passports on their cruises now - xenophobia escalating!