Sensational Transformational Budget from Joe Hockey, well done Joe........

Disregarding political persuasion, whether right-wing or left-wing, the quality of media reporting has declined significantly in
the last few years, because of the 24hr media cycle and social media. The mainstream media are like Orcas, hunting for a
"gotchya moment" from someone. When they get one, they put it on social media to get a response. Social media brings
all the dubious feigned outrage, or bleeding heart support, that mainstream media needs, and they report on the outrage/support.

In other words, the media is literally creating so-called news, simply because they desperately need something to say 24/7.
The insatiable rush for "news" has resulted in an almost total loss of inquisitive, investigative reporting or incisive commentary.
This is a very bad sign for any country with aspirations to legitimate democratic status.

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Seems to me Abott is used to getting off light from the press as the libs were not put under any scrutiny before he election, now he has a fools confidence with the budget and thoughthe could still get away with what he used to ...

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Yep ... but like Howard before him, he will learn that this is not the case. He is too arrogant to learn from past mistakes.

Tony Abbott's government came to power with a large majority and he spoke ad naseum about the need to reverse the budget deficit during the election campaign. So its not true to say he didn't have a mandate to take drastic action. Where he crossed the line, in my opinion, is the breaking of several very clear election promises. i won't vote for a party I can't trust.

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Originally Posted by greybeard_

Tony Abbott's government came to power with a large majority and he spoke ad naseum about the need to reverse the budget deficit during the election campaign. So its not true to say he didn't have a mandate to take drastic action. Where he crossed the line, in my opinion, is the breaking of several very clear election promises. i won't vote for a party I can't trust.

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Maybe the election promises were made in "the heat of discussion".

http://www.smh.com.au/national/abbot...0517-v9dc.html

Australia is in trouble on various levels; including economic, cultural and security. These issues won't go away by having a
workshop and a committee and an inquiry. Or by "impartial" ABC reporting and whinging from the disenfranchised entitlement seekers.
Swift and decisive action is required to arrest Australia's decline, and to put in place the policies and structures that will protect the country
from the abyss that has been steadily creeping up in recent years. This government knows exactly what it's doing, and they also know that
the strong medicine will have a bitter taste for the whinging lefty vocalisers who have, both directly and indirectly, helped to bring Australia down.

Excellent link M3. Very enlightening

Maybe the election promises were made in "the heat of discussion".
http://www.smh.com.au/national/abbot...0517-v9dc.html

You might find this link "Very enlightening" too??

http://www.scribd.com/doc/133134121/Tony-Abbott-Gaffes

WayneK.

Australia needs leadership, not low-brow media-driven political discourse. I'm as right-wing as they come,
but I still regard both Keating and Hawke, especially Keating, as fine national leaders. The Labour left currently
has no one with true leadership quality. Shorten & "the Pleb" are the weakest leadership team in Labour's history.
When the thunderbolt strikes, many people run around with twisted knick knacks for a while, then things settle down
and the changes introduced take their necessary place. What is now happening in Australia, i.e the real leadership from
the current government, has been a long time coming in recent political life, and badly needs to happen.

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Australia needs leadership, not low-brow media-driven political discourse. I'm as right-wing as they come,
but I still regard both Keating and Hawke, especially Keating, as fine national leaders. The Labour left currently
has no one with true leadership quality. Shorten & "the Pleb" are the weakest leadership team in Labour's history.
When the thunderbolt strikes, many people run around with twisted knick knacks for a while, then things settle down
and the changes introduced take their necessary place. What is now happening in Australia, i.e the real leadership from
the current government, has been a long time coming in recent political life, and badly needs to happen.

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Agreed that there's no outstanding leaders in the Labour camp recently, that's why they lost the election ! Liberal didn't win it, Labour just lost it !

But if you say Tony Abbott who broke all promises with a wink of his eye is your role model of a good leader, that says very much about yourself, and Australia is really in trouble !

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Originally Posted by wilisno

Agreed that there's no outstanding leaders in the Labour camp recently, that's why they lost the election ! Liberal didn't win it, Labour just lost it !

But if you say Tony Abbott who broke all promises with a wink of his eye is your role model of a good leader, that says very much about yourself, and Australia is really in trouble !

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In a perfect world, I like to have Malcolm Turnbull as Prime Minister and Peter Costello as Treasurer and deputy !! But this is not gonna to happen though.

How about Julia Bishop as PM, and Malcolm as deputy and Treasurer ??

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

In a perfect world, I like to have Malcolm Turnbull as Prime Minister and Peter Costello as Treasurer and deputy !! But this is not gonna to happen though.

How about Julia Bishop as PM, and Malcolm as deputy and Treasurer ??

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No one in the Liberal camp is remarkable either, Julia Bishop will put the nails on the coffin !

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Australia needs leadership, not low-brow media-driven political discourse. I'm as right-wing as they come,
but I still regard both Keating and Hawke, especially Keating, as fine national leaders. The Labour left currently
has no one with true leadership quality. Shorten & "the Pleb" are the weakest leadership team in Labour's history.
When the thunderbolt strikes, many people run around with twisted knick knacks for a while, then things settle down
and the changes introduced take their necessary place. What is now happening in Australia, i.e the real leadership from
the current government, has been a long time coming in recent political life, and badly needs to happen.

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I would probably agree with you here but go a little further in saying that neither the red or the blue team have a leader of any substance.

As previously indicated governments loose elections and the last election was no exception.

In a tight battle I see Abbott as a liability as women in general don't seem to like him plus his foot is never far away from his mouth..

I also see the blue team as economic lightweights driven more by ideology than a workable plan to grow the economy.

One of the red team's major problems was their inability to execute any of their programs..In short they fudked everything they touched but unfortunately I see the blue team heading down the same path.

It almost seems the blue team is getting it's strategy from a Sydney radio shock jock rather than sensible economic rational.

The blue teams idea of a infrastructure lead recovery is the way to go but that will not happen as they are so fixated on the deficit it is clouding their thinking.

Setting up the states as the fall guy in forcing them into introducing new taxes to maintain services has already been seen by the electorate for what it is thus one of the reasons for the budget backlash.

The stupidity of the blue teams budget is that it will deliver very little short term while driving down consumer confidence in the mean time.

Because of the Senate the blue team's budget will be watered down to the extent one would wonder why they put this budget up in the first place.

My advice to the blue team would be to get their infrastructure program going ASAP and start building the economy..

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Tony Abbott who broke all promises with a wink of his eye

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He's a character, I'll give him that! :shout:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5...psea96e8af.gif

Astute analysis.

Although I disagree with the infrastructure investment led recovery thing. Sure if a lack of certain infrastructure is holding back growth, build it. But assess each project on its merits. Stimulus spending is usually wasteful and often gobbled up by the various vested interests

But yeh, agree with your broad description of things

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Originally Posted by M3

I would probably agree with you here but go a little further in saying that neither the red or the blue team have a leader of any substance.

As previously indicated governments loose elections and the last election was no exception.

In a tight battle I see Abbott as a liability as women in general don't seem to like him plus his foot is never far away from his mouth..

I also see the blue team as economic lightweights driven more by ideology than a workable plan to grow the economy.

One of the red team's major problems was their inability to execute any of their programs..In short they fudked everything they touched but unfortunately I see the blue team heading down the same path.

It almost seems the blue team is getting it's strategy from a Sydney radio shock jock rather than sensible economic rational.

The blue teams idea of a infrastructure lead recovery is the way to go but that will not happen as they are so fixated on the deficit it is clouding their thinking.

Setting up the states as the fall guy in forcing them into introducing new taxes to maintain services has already been seen by the electorate for what it is thus one of the reasons for the budget backlash.

The stupidity of the blue teams budget is that it will deliver very little short term while driving down consumer confidence in the mean time.

Because of the Senate the blue team's budget will be watered down to the extent one would wonder why they put this budget up in the first place.

My advice to the blue team would be to get their infrastructure program going ASAP and start building the economy..

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Australia is in trouble on various levels; including economic, cultural and security. These issues won't go away by having a
workshop and a committee and an inquiry. Or by impartial ABC reporting and whinging from the disenfranchised entitlement seekers.
Swift and decisive action is required to arrest Australia's decline, and to put in place the policies and structures that will protect the country
from the abyss that has been steadily creeping up in recent years. This government knows exactly what it's doing, and they also know that
the strong medicine will have a bitter taste for the whinging lefty vocalisers who have, both directly and indirectly, helped to bring Australia down.

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First the ABC was biased and treasonous and now it's impartial? Make up your mind!

Or get a dictionary.

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Originally Posted by M3

I would probably agree with you here but go a little further in saying that neither the red or the blue team have a leader of any substance.

women in general don't seem to like him plus his foot is never far away from his mouth..

My advice to the blue team would be to get their infrastructure program going ASAP and start building the economy..

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Abbott is a visionary - the paid parental leave scheme is a monument to the social & economic well-being of women, familes and society.
This country has declined so much over the last fifteen years, that public discourse now nearly always revolves around the cost of this or that.
Visionary policy must, by definition, transcend the grubby mentality of the penny pinching, point scoring ideologues. Abbott and Hockey are
on their way transforming Australia from a complacent, selfish and declining society, to a focused, opportunity oriented, growing society.

By the way, media women & lefty women might dislike Abbott, but many others like him. He's a fit, active, family oriented, strong man with
sound moral and democratic values. Many non-media oriented women like this very much.

(nb. Gillard was an overweight, unmarried, childless individual of obvious imited life experience, who had to resort to playing the sexism/victim woman card
in a vain attempt to win favour, but she was preaching only to the lefty twats who already "liked" her for simply being a woman - so everyone else was
turned off and she had to be sacked by her own party).

As the Abbott/Hockey policies take hold, more and more people will grudgingly realise how successful they are, and Australia will be a lot better for it.

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Originally Posted by cleetusvandamme

First the ABC was biased and treasonous and now it's impartial? Make up your mind!

Or get a dictionary.

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cleetus...

fuckwits cannot make up their mind, nor do I doubt this moron has the ability to use a dictionary. Besides, it doesn't believe anything it is posting. It is a troll, pure and simple, thinking it gets some form of power by getting a rise out of people by posting anything racist, sexist, misogynist or just plain stupid. Making it feel bigger than the miserable little powerless worm it is.

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cleetus...

fuckwits cannot make up their mind, nor do I doubt this moron has the ability to use a dictionary. Besides, it doesn't believe anything it is posting. It is a troll, pure and simple, thinking it gets some form of power by getting a rise out of people by posting anything racist, sexist, misogynist or just plain stupid. Making it feel bigger than the miserable little powerless worm it is.

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Ugly by name, and ugly by nature.....and quite the ignorant one too - you're indeed the perfect storm, neither of use nor ornament.

Can I ask a favour of everyone?

Please never quote the long-necked fuckwit again. I have just added it to my ignore list and it is awesome! No more self grandiosing monologues, no more uneducated fuckspeak, no more listening to the poor hard done by loser blaming all his woes on anyone who isn't white, male or who actually has friends. No more skipping over (and never ever reading) the attempt at putting words together in a paragraph it calls "poetry".

The ignore list is a great invention, and will work wonders until it gets inevitably banned and comes back as some other limp-dicked loser. I suggest you all give it a go :)

The only problem is if you quote him, well, I can still see your posts - hence my request :D

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Abbott is a visionary - the paid parental leave scheme is a monument to the social & economic well-being of women, familes and society.
This country has declined so much over the last fifteen years, that public discourse now nearly always revolves around the cost of this or that.
Visionary policy must, by definition, transcend the grubby mentality of the penny pinching, point scoring ideologues. Abbott and Hockey are
on their way transforming Australia from a complacent, selfish and declining society, to a focused, opportunity oriented, growing society.

By the way, media women & lefty women might dislike Abbott, but many others like him. He's a fit, active, family oriented, strong man with
sound moral and democratic values. Many non-media oriented women like this very much.

(nb. Gillard was an overweight, unmarried, childless individual of obvious imited life experience, who had to resort to playing the sexism/victim woman card
in a vain attempt to win favour, but she was preaching only to the lefty twats who already "liked" her for simply being a woman - so everyone else was
turned off and she had to be sacked by her own party).

As the Abbott/Hockey policies take hold, more and more people will grudgingly realise how successful they are, and Australia will be a lot better for it.

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This is so true, it deserves one or two replays at least.