Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by studsg

Well at least for those ppl who are saying that this virus only infects Asians... They can learn some truths about viruses [emoji6]

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Because some people are stupid. Just like virus in computer have no border infect if not careful.

The researcher for the testing of coronavirus here in AU has already advised that we should stock up on some non-perishables like pasta, cereal, muesli, etc. Worth getting some (leave some for others) and if we do get through relatively uninfected, the food won't go to waste.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-live-updates/

Its slowing down in China, but the rest of the world might get a lot worse now. Japan just shut its schools down til April. Korea and Italy getting A LOT of cases daily, lets hope it doesn't spread much further from there. We're lucky its not spreading much here, and I hate to say this but honestly I think we should probably start looking at restrictions for Koreans/Italians for a few weeks

Yeah attacking the stock market and the global economy.
Probably have to start working from home soon.

Best to move super into the safe zone, less volatile but also less returns.

I'm still seeing people walking around Chinatown.

I was there yesterday and it wasn't too bad, not as busy as usual but not empty as well.

There's so many pretty Thai girls working in pubs and VIP lounges.

So many rich young Chinese parking their Lamborghini near the Destiny Karaoke club.

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It’s not all doom and gloom though, the News graphics that I have been following just changed its profiles to also including the numbers on recovery and it’s quite promising:

The most important data: Australia 23 cases, 15 recovered , no death !

And New Zealand - Still all cleared ! good on them !!

Vietnam, 16 cases All recovered ! Same with India , 3 out of 3.

Then there are the more seriously affected countries/regions:

Hong Kong: 92 cases, 18 recovered, 2 deaths.

Singapore: 96 cases - 66 recovered

Japan: 207 cases - 32 recovered, 4 deaths - excluding the Diamond Princess.

South Korea: 1,766 cases, 24 recovered, 13 deaths

Just wondering why the Australian government has Not yet imposed a travel ban from Japan and S Korea ??


And finally, how trustworthy is this next set of figures ?

Hubei: 65,596 cases, 23,383 recovered, 2,641 deaths !


For the rest of the world, these are the two real and present danger areas:

Italy: 528 cases, 42 recovered, 14 deaths

Iran: 245 cases, 54 recovered, 26 deaths !!


Lord have mercy on us all.

Weren't there many Chinese tourists in Indonesia? This is one country where many Aussies travel to for a holiday. Any statistics for Indonesia?

Many of countries do not have enough resource or test kits, or simply not even bother to test. Their philosophy is no fever, no sympton, no problem. Include USA

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Originally Posted by cuteguy

Weren't there many Chinese tourists in Indonesia? This is one country where many Aussies travel to for a holiday. Any statistics for Indonesia?

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No infection. From what I know. Maybe their water are better. Maybe not tell/reporting but then many Australian still travel to Bali have not infection reported after coming back.

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Originally Posted by Tiankou

Many of countries do not have enough resource or test kits, or simply not even bother to test. Their philosophy is no fever, no sympton, no problem. Include USA

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Yeap, just heard the news the latest case in California, the woman was only just tested but has been having symptoms for a while ? The reason why she hasn’t been tested earlier was that she hadn’t recently travelled to China and hadn’t been in close contact with any high risk group .

But the more alarming side show of this news was that the hospital or the city ? Only have about 200 test kits for the virus !! They are Not equipped to deal with any level of out break if ever! Let’s hope they are lucky !

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Originally Posted by Effindahead

My superannuation went down $1k in couple of days..dammnnnn this virus also attacking your super.

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Only $1k!!! You either have bugger all super, most of your super in cash or you're the world's luckiest bastard. Mine's down $17k and counting

Yes - I doubt very much that claim is correct. There's been lots of cases in the media the virus has been contracted where contact wasn't direct with a known carrier. Think about the Princess Ship in Yokohama - for two weeks all passengers wore masks, the ship was cleaned (reasonably well!) and there was very little mixing of passengers - but still the virus spread to hundreds of passengers. This indicates that the virus stays alive out of the body for quite a while - so on a hand rail, table, elevator button, etc. until the next person touches that surface and then touches their mouth or nose... That's almost certainly how this particular virus is spreading so quickly...

I saw this theory come up today, any truth in this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLl...Kb2gNVYfZe7l-A

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Originally Posted by halfway

I saw this theory come up today, any truth in this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLl...Kb2gNVYfZe7l-A

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I would give her $50 for a BBBJ/CIM just to shut her fucking mouth.

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Originally Posted by Riff888

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Thanks Riff!

It’s always a good sign when no one is wearing a mask !

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

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Originally Posted by Basil22

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

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The mortality rate in Iran at the moment is 11%?

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Originally Posted by Climax598

No infection. From what I know. Maybe their water are better. Maybe not tell/reporting but then many Australian still travel to Bali have not infection reported after coming back.

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Their water is definitely not good. Can't drink from the tap without getting giardia! They are not testing, so they won't find confirmed cases. Their government is currently relying on prayers. Seriously.....

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Originally Posted by Basil22

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

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Mortality rate isn't the only factor in determining how dangerous a virus is. In fact a lower mortality rate with a higher rate of transmission can be more devastating to the general population than a virus with polar traits, say Ebola. With Ebola the sympoms onset quickly and the host dies too fast for the virus to be transmitted to large numbers.

COVID-19 is scary as at appears to be transmittable in gestation before the host shows symptoms. Most reports suggest 14 days, but some cases have suggested closer to a month. Think about how many people you would be in contact with for a good part of month. How many people would WL/ML be close to in that time!

While 70% of 1000 cases for something nasty like Ebola is bad. 2% potentially 100's million people is fucking horrendous!

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life is mundane, we need something to instill fear into soc. It makes us feel human/alive just like watching a horror movie. I feel very sorry for the chinese restaurants and business that have been forced to close out of our stupidity. On the plus, lobsters are cheaper.

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Originally Posted by retrospect

The flu does not kill hundreds of thousands of people in Australia each year. It kills 1 or 2 thousand. There are only about 150k deaths in Australia each year in total.

SARS is a scary disease but it doesn't spread as readily as COVID19. MERS is even worse at 45% fatality rate, bird flu is 80% or something. But we are very unlikely to have an outbreak of any of these diseases. We are unlikely to not have a COVID19 outbreak here.

The estimate for Australia in the event of a large COVID19 outbreak (with 50% of the population infected) is about 1.4-1.6 million requiring hospitalisation (I forget how many for ICU, but it was a lot) and over 200 thousand dead. We do not have 1.4-1.6 million hospital beds available and we do not have tens of thousands of ICU beds. I do not believe we will take actions similar to the Chinese to limit the spread. Hopefully we won't have a large outbreak. I don't see how we wont, but we can hope. The real issue is that 15% or so of cases have serious pneumonia. That would put an impossible strain on our health system and people will also die from other things because they can't get treatment.

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With 50% of the population being infected, how is the number only 1.4 - 1.5 million ? Surely our population is bigger than 3 million ?

Absolutely agree. Australia is not ready for the outbreak. We do not have enough hospital facilities nor medical staff to deal with the outbreak here.

And when the virus does land, they won't implement strong quarantine measures like China. Thus the spread will be "fast & furious" like Italy and Korea.

As of yesterday. Flights from Korea and Japan are still landing without restrictions.

is condom made in China? Might we run out of stock?

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Originally Posted by retrospect

Roughly speaking : Population 26 million, infected 12 million, serious 1.8 million, hospitalised 1.4-1.6 million, ICU several hundred thousand, dead over 200k.

The focus needs to be on slowing the spread once it gets here so these cases are spread out over a longer time frame. Even over a year we will be seriously challenged by those numbers. If it gets into the community just before winter that is not favourable.

Cancelling events like Mardi gras and the f1 have obviously huge costs. As does closing borders, etc. The estimates above are best guess with many unknowns and also involve huge costs. Not easy decisions.

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Yes agree that once it gets here, and it will, how do we limit the spread.

So far govt agencies here are still not doing near enough. As of yesterday's visit at the airport. There still aren't any temperature scanners deployed anywhere !! So many other countries have already implemented them as basic measure... But not here ??

Custom officers are also not wearing any face masks...

If we are still allowing flights in from countries with large increases of infected on a daily basis, in talking about Japan, Korea and Italy. At least have some level of checks for people who are entering our borders right ?

Similar to New Zealand. Fresh back from Iran beautician in Gold Coast has been tested positive for Covid-19 and has interacted with 40 customers on Thur alone...[emoji3525]

Maybe they shld be applying the same 14 day quarantine procedure to those coming in from those huge outbreak countries like Iran, Japan, Korea and Italy ?