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I think you grossly underestimate the sophistication of law enforcement agencies
whether or not you include the working name of a ML in an after report once you identify the massage shop and hint of the provision of sexual services you increase the risk to both all the MLs who work there and the puntets who go there as they all will be on unlicensed premises if the massage shop is raided
What risk? Can you point to a single case where there was a successful prosecution for engaging in illegal prostitution from shop raid? The only ones I can think of was the girl at QJ that got deported, and the owner and her bf got busted communicating via text message to each other about what was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brissie.Punter
The only risk I see with regards to police activity is the possible embarrassment or marital complications of being caught on premises.
With regards to ML risk, the biggest issue is them becoming aware of what you post and not liking it. Or some dickhead member from here reading it and going to see her. There have been cases of blackmail and assault against MLs in the past 6 months and I am willing to bet those punters were readers of this forum.
I sent you a PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenLittlePunt
RLP:
2011: Massage parlours in Ashmore, Southport, Bundall and Broadbeach were raided with 17 people charged with various prostitution offences.
2012: QJ’s 3 shops were raided (by the Prostitution Enforcement Task Force, Australian Federal Police, Australian Tax Office, Dept of Immigration and Citizenship and the CMC) and 12 women and 1 male were charged with various offences. The out-come of only 3 people were reported in the media:
(1) owner – no conviction - Crown dropped the charges
(2) WL foreign national – pleaded guilty but no conviction recorded
(3) the punter 69 year old man – convicted of being on premises used for prostitution
2013: Exquisite Massage Underwood was raided after a complaint and sexual services were offered to an undercover police officer. The owner, manager and a pimp were convicted with the 2 convictions of the owner not being recorded on appeal.
2013/2014: over 50 Asian massage parlours on the Gold Coast were raided by police and Dept of Immigration. Police indicated concerns about links to organised crime and women working without appropriate visas
2015: After a complaint by a registered brother owner police undercover officers visited a number of massage parlours posing as customers and claim they were offered sex for cash. Police raided properties in Hamilton, Deagon, Lawnton, Morayfield, Chermside, Boondall and Stafford. Case adjourned until Feb 2016
2015: ????
I don't know the facts of the 2011 case to comment on it.
2012 case relied solely on her guilty plea
2013 cases relied solely on text message/emails between the owner and her bf
2014 raids only resulted in visa violations
2015 yet to be heard, but the evidence does sound fairly incriminating. I was however under the impression these were not massage shops but private WLs operating illegally.
But at this point in time, after 2011 not a single conviction for engaging in illegal prostitution as a result of MLs being caught in the act.
RLP:
2013: case against owner relied on texts, however the manager offered undercover officer a hj
2015: photo in media show a sandwich-style massage sign outside the property
I agree punting is a low risk activity, maybe a 1 in a million being caught on premises used for prostitution
Murphy's Law states that if something can go wrong it will go wrong
Littlewood's Law shows even a 1 in a million chance can happen given a high frequency of events occurring over time
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Originally Posted by Brissie.Punter
Seems like the solicitation was never used as evidence, as all convictions were for knowingly carrying on the business of unlawful prostitution.
The media always misuses photos to get headlines. I bet it wasn't even a photo of the actual location. They recently got sued for using the photo of a legit shop in a story about prostitution allegations.
How can a punter be convicted for just being on the premises? Surely they have to be found guilty of offering cash for sexual activities if you are just there having a massage there is no way they could prove you were aware the place offers sexual servicesQuote:
Originally Posted by Brissie.Punter
If u get a massage and a raid happens they come in room and ml tugging you or she naked or half naked u both fuckes!! Rarely happens but sometimes does
Qld laws if taken serious can harm customer and shop and girls
It's an objective test. If it is reasonable to suspect there is illegal prostitution occurring there, it is illegal to be on the premises.Quote:
Originally Posted by icanfly
dropped into this place yesterday after hearing good things about it from this thread. Walked through the front door and there were 3 girls sitting on the couch. They all seem to be in the mid 20's and I'd rate all of their looks just above average.
One of the girls got up and led me upstairs. The room I was in is massive and the quality is very nice! not what i expected at all. I didn't quiet catch the name of my ML, i think she said it started with a Q? she was very friendly throughout and we had a nice chat. she had a few very cheeky comments here and there. the massage itself was a bit average but at least she was actually trying. the hour went by very quickly and she started to wipe me down already, no flip at all!
i asked her about extras and straight away she perked up and rattled out a menu and its prices. i won't go into detail on what i negotiated but it was more than standard offerings and i gave her a pineapple for it. the bad part was that she did a very mediocre job at the extras, it may be because she is still a bit inexperienced in giving out extras? i haven't blown for a while so disappointingly i didn't last too long before finishing anyway.
all in all, its a pretty average shop, i wouldn't go out of my way to go back. the girl was fun though!
Sound like u met one of the new girls lol i went yesterday. Great time again. Great thai still massage beautiful girl in chilli .great girl very good English and sexy one the eye.ill have to book 2hours next time
my preferred ML is way to busy/popular. one time the ML had 6 back to back sessions all 1h or more before close.
Unfortunately D has left the shop/industry.
Guys…who was it?
Who was D?
Sad to see her go ive seen her a number of times and was one of the friendliest girls there . Have been punting for a long time and seen a lot of changes , not up with tech stuff only found this forum recently but will do best to contribute.favs at moment uniquethai.... very friendly not a stunner but good all round package and sunshine hope to see ...this wk havent tried yet but looks a stunner tall and glasses does it for me . All the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by randy84
Mate the thai girls there r very beautiful girls. Same with the Korean too all round best shop
Does anybody know what happened to the sth american girl naomi , was reading through some earlier posts and saw her name , missed out with her ,is she working anywhere else? ? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by randy84
Yeah mate i think shes on holidays. Oasis left same with jenny thai.some new girls have started but cant go passed lilly;)Quote:
Originally Posted by reddoor