Sensational Transformational Budget from Joe Hockey, well done Joe........

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Originally Posted by SirLaughsAlot

He does a lot of good work with indigenous people, and he is introducing a visionary policy with the paid parental leave scheme.

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I see you had a new account all ready to go. I shall place you on my ignore list after I correct your crap, which you seem to have just cut and pasted from the Liberal propaganda book with no fact checking at all.

1) Tony Abbott does NOT do a lot of good work with indigenous people, although he does do SOME. Over the past 10 years he has spent about 8 weeks in indigenous communities carrying out various menial tasks. While this is to be commended and almost certainly one of the better records of any minister, it is still a laughably small amount of time compared to other people who do far more, on far less money and for more altruistic reasons than to get in the press. In any case, his policies do FAR more damage to the indigenous community than any minor brick laying he may carry out does good.

2) The PPL has been widely condemned by almost everyone from business leaders to those that do real work with people in low socio-economic backgrounds. Very few people approve of it, it is divisive and reeks of class warfare (i.e robbing the rich to pay the poor).

3) Any other point you have made is also full of shit and has no basis in reality.

**ignored**

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Originally Posted by uglyphil

I see you had a new account all ready to go. I shall place you on my ignore list after I correct your crap, which you seem to have just cut and pasted from the Liberal propaganda book with no fact checking at all.

1) Tony Abbott does NOT do a lot of good work with indigenous people, although he does do SOME. Over the past 10 years he has spent about 8 weeks in indigenous communities carrying out various menial tasks. While this is to commended and almost certainly one of the better records of any minister, it is still a laughably small amount of time compared to other people who do far more, on far less money and for more altruistic reasons than to get in the press. In any case, his policies do FAR more damage to the indigenous community than any minor brick laying he may carry out does good.

2) The PPL has been widely condemned by almost everyone from business leaders to those that do real work with people in low socio-economic backgrounds. Very few people approve of it, it is divisive and reeks of class warfare (i.e robbing the rich to pay the poor).

3) Any other point you have made is also full of shit and has no basis in reality.

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For someone who continually says they ignore me, you do tend to make quite as few comments.
As I said once before, the truth is like granite, it's never a good idea to argue against it. Abbott's in for a good reason,
and the Liberals will stay in for good reason, that's just the way it is sugar.

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Originally Posted by SirLaughsAlot

For someone who continually says they ignore me, you do tend to make quite as few comments.
As I said once before, the truth is like granite, it's never a good idea to argue against it. Abbott's in for a good reason,
and the Liberals will stay in for good reason, that's just the way it is sugar.

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Typical troll you know what he said but you are being ingenious. To spell it out for you just in case you really are that stupid:
- you were just banned and now have a new user name
- uglyphil has just seen you posting as a new user
- he responded to your far right liberal baiting crap
- now he is going to ignore you
Do you get it ?

Oh, is that what he said to me. Thanks for spelling it out for the feeble minded one CL :)

(Actually, I think I may have suggested his new user name with that last sentence)

As for "truth", the troll is right in that you cannot argue against it. I notice he didn't say anything I had pointed out to him was wrong, for example, mainly 'cause it isn't. However almost everything he says is wrong, so any argument will stack up nicely. As to Abbott being in for a good reason, well, he isn't. He is in for a bad reason - i.e. the last Labor Govt. However people are finally realising that, unfortunately for us, in this case it was better the devil we already knew :(

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Originally Posted by uglyphil

As for "truth", the troll is right in that you cannot argue against it.(

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So, we are in some kind of sacred core agreement, at least on a certain level.
I suppose the question is, "what is the truth?" I suspect you think science is truth,
until it gets revised and then becomes a new truth. Scientific knowledge necessarily
evolves over time, with the "scientific truth" evolving too. Sacred truth never changes.

Indigenous Australians have an extremely high rate of welfare dependence. Reducing government debt and narrowing the budget deficit means that the Australian welfare system is viable in the longer term.

Stop thinking so narrowly. A healthy economy is in everyone's interest. Welfare recipients benefit. Indigenous Australians benefit. We all benefit.

Hello proximo ;)

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Originally Posted by diamondeyez

Stop thinking so narrowly. A healthy economy is in everyone's interest. Welfare recipients benefit. Indigenous Australians benefit. We all benefit.

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True ! A healthy economy is in everyone's interest only if the cut ! cut ! cut ! is leading to a healthy economy, stop thinking so narrowly !

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Originally Posted by uglyphil

Hello proximo ;)

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You might be right too ! :miao:

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Originally Posted by wilisno

You might be right too ! :miao:

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I proudly take ownership of every name in the "banned table" except for Proximo.
That is why I wrote the fairwell poem for Proximo.

I don't want to be credited or discredited with something that is not of my doing.
Similarly, I don't want anyone to be credited or discredited with my moves.
Like I said, amongst many other things, I'm proud.

I'm currently fine tuning a fabulous erotic poem for posting this coming Saturday,
you'll be reaching for the tissues when you read it.....I'll keep you updated.

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Originally Posted by wilisno

You might be right too ! :miao:

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Easier to spot than balls on a cow ;)

If you cut the head off a snake, it grows another...Hmmm

How about; You can't circumcise him because there is no end to the prick.

WayneK.