A failed punting adventure (story)

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Originally Posted by priapus1966

First. Big thumbs up to the Sampler for an excellent story. Disappointed yes, Frustrated yes, but still, not a bad deal.

Second. I would take issue a bit with Goldfishman about Chinese girls and language: you are right that if you know some language your mileage can improve quite markedly. Until 3 months ago I had lived overseas for more than 25 years, East Asia, Europe, and North America. You cannot put all Chinese girls in the same basket, Northerners tend to be a bit more outgoing, Southerners a tad quieter but they can even have trouble understanding each other, let alone the big noses like me! I spent a lot of time in Japan, Korea, and various parts of China and it pays big time for a punter to learn a few words in whatever is the local language/dialect. It breaks the ice, mistakes don't matter because they can cause a laugh - and a laughing gal is always more fun.

There is one exception: Shanghai; I'm fairly sure that even the other quite close by Chinese have trouble understanding that mob. And when you start to go west in China there is a myriad of different languages.

Japanese and Koreans are scared of making errors, I put that down to their education systems which tend to penalize error rather than reward success. But a bow, and meticulous good manners, with a word or two in greeting melts them quickly enough. Don't know much about Thais so will say nothing.

Finally as a refugee from Sydney punting 1995 style, I am learning a lot from you guys on this site, things have changed a lot, ahelluva lot, so thanks for all the tips and guidance

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Yes the Chinese have many many different dialects and even intonations of Mando in different parts of the country. However, that's why there's Mandarin. The language itself is called "pu tong hua", meaning "common language", the language that is understood by all Chinese no matter where they are from.

I stand by my comment about them being lazy and not as willing to take up English as other nationalities. This is exactly my experience with them in Australia, and it's all because of how big the Chinese diaspora in Sydney has become. A Chinese immigrant with zero English proficiency could very easily live his/her life here without needing to be able to speak any English. They can live in any of the heavily Chinese populated areas like Campsie, Wolli Creek, Chinatown and get everything they need simply by speaking Chinese.

On the other hand, Thai, Korean, Japanese immigrants are forced to learn at least some English because their diaspora are not as big as the Chinese here. At some point they would have to deal with people that don't speak their own languages, that's where they need English.

I have a lot of Chinese customers all here for most of their adult life and they all speak "passable" English. They had to learn as most suppliers in manufacturing are Australian companies.
I have noticed with WL/ML that the FIFO girls don't bother trying maybe because they're only here to make as much money as possible in the shortest period of time, and as GFM has pointed out they don't really need to learn. I've found with some older girls who are here to get a PR (as well as earn the $$$) they actually make an effort.

Also our governments make everything easy for new arrivals so they don't have to make an effort. I know my ex books interpreters every time she needs to talk to a government agency and it's a free service provided by the taxpayers. She even had a court appointed interpreter during the divorce proceedings because English was her second language.

A lot of Asian countries learn english in school for couple semesters such as korea, japan. But China doesn't offer it so most of them either learn it from media sources such as tv/movies or music or if they have tutors. So when a chinese fly in for "work" most of them won't have spoken english much. Even the students coming over would only be starting to learn english.

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Originally Posted by itoko

A lot of Asian countries learn english in school for couple semesters such as korea, japan. But China doesn't offer it so most of them either learn it from media sources such as tv/movies or music or if they have tutors. So when a chinese fly in for "work" most of them won't have spoken english much. Even the students coming over would only be starting to learn english.

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No mate, that's not true. English is offered as an elective secondary language subject in all levels of education in China starting from kindy through to high-school/uni. Just like French, Spanish, or Mandarin are elective subjects in the Aussie school system. The same applies to all the other Asian countries we're discussing here. This is because the culture and language use in those countries are extremely strong, to the point where if someone refused to learn English, they could carry on with their lives there and have a successful career without a problem.
This is different for other Asian countries like Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The culture and pervasiveness of the national languages there are not strong enough to ensure that someone learning only Malay, for example, could make it in life. So there are mandatory secondary language subjects in those countries, eg. English, Chinese, etc.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

No mate, that's not true. English is offered as an elective secondary language subject in all levels of education in China starting from kindy through to high-school/uni. Just like French, Spanish, or Mandarin are elective subjects in the Aussie school system. The same applies to all the other Asian countries we're discussing here. This is because the culture and language use in those countries are extremely strong, to the point where if someone refused to learn English, they could carry on with their lives there and have a successful career without a problem.
This is different for other Asian countries like Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The culture and pervasiveness of the national languages there are not strong enough to ensure that someone learning only Malay, for example, could make it in life. So there are mandatory secondary language subjects in those countries, eg. English, Chinese, etc.

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I mean I had to learn Japanese and Indonesian in highschool here but am I confident that I can go to Indonesia and Japan and just speak the language. Hell no. I don't think I could even understand basics. All I can say in Indonesian is Bagus and apa kabar lol.

I will just add to the story that it was really only Yvonne that had the language barrier. The other ladies were pretty good at their English. Enough to ask me cash or card, if the pressure was okay and how much to pay lol

And then I rock up to a place I think is legit, not noticing that they do not take health rebate. I get a Hekla massage and then the oldish bird is like. You want hanjob? I'm like hell's Yea.. too bad it was only the handy she's a fit old bird

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Originally Posted by Meng

I mean I had to learn Japanese and Indonesian in highschool here but am I confident that I can go to Indonesia and Japan and just speak the language. Hell no. I don't think I could even understand basics. All I can say in Indonesian is Bagus and apa kabar lol.

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Learning a new language takes years. I studied a few at school and would struggle to be fluent now but I think I’d pick it up pretty quick if I had to.

This reminds me of many, many years ago a place I used to frequent in Chatswood.
I always went there for legit massages. There were three older Chinese birds. 2 not much to look at and 1 was a bit cute. The 2 were all business and gave decent massages. The cutey gave by far the best massage and also gave a lottle tease from time to time.
This was well before I was a member here, I had punted FS but not really RnT.
Anyway, I started to get excited by my visits to see her, not just because I knew I was getting a top massage, but also her teasing increased little by little each time. One day I was already quite horny and went to work out some kinks. She pulled my underwear down further than usual, and on the downstrokes on my back woukd trail a finger down my butt crack. She slapped my butt cheek and offered "You have perfect bum". I had no idea what to say or do. When it came time to flip there was no hiding I was so stiff a cat couldn't scratch it. And my face was probably bright red. She looked at it, smiled at me, and gently ran a finger all along my shaft through my jocks. "Would you like to take these off?"
"Ummm, yes, please..."
She peeled them off slowly, oiled me up, whispered in my ear it's a secret and how much would I pay. I offered up $50, she took her clothes off and gave me the most exquisite hand job, I was in convulsions by the end.
Little did I know the girl in question was quite well known to give RnT but the lead up to that session, must have been 3 months or so, had me hooked.
Looking back at the shop and experience, these days I would have sussed it out in the first few minutes. Oh to be young and innocent again...

Similar thing happened to me. I went to this legit massage place recommended to me by my sister. A few months later the shop had changed hands but I didn’t know. So there I was having the perfect hard massage including walking on my back whilst I was in my undies. On the flip, this cute PRC continued getting out all my knots. Then she accidentally brushed my jocks. At first I thought it was unintentional until she kept doing it. I think she was confused at my
non-reaction so she then openly said ‘ok to massage here?’ She said it would ‘be good for relaxation’ whilst removing my undies. Definitely felt relaxed after that plus She’d only take $20 (clothed). Those were the days!

I went to my regular legit massage today. A Thai one with very good Google reviews from both men and women. It was a 90 minutes session. I asked her to concentrate on quads with couple of other places. While massaging my thighs, she accidentally touched my penis once. Then, she continued touching it for at least 5 more times. I went from soft to semi hard to full hard. I'm pretty sure that no extra was on, but who knows!

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Originally Posted by The Sampler

Been working up the courage to go to sample blossom massage and some of the other shops on that side of the train tracks. I don't like the amount of public foot and vehicle traffic that passes through those areas because im one of those stealth ninja massage types lol. But thanks for the info and recommendations on ladies!

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Be sure to let us know when you get there. I tried it for the first time a couple of weeks ago and had a real dud time. Got a girl who wasn't on the roster and apparently was just helping out for the day. Not too sure if that's normal and there's no one even close to the fake pictures.

I did try the place after reading OPs post. Something about the prospect of wandering into the relative unknown is fun. Sorta like being seduced via a massage? Idk.

They close at 7ish so it was relatively late when I called em up (5ish) on a Friday. Went in, older lady greeted me and pointed to the massage area. There was this old bloke just chilling on a chair watching TV. Awkward. The massage area was SUPER dark and divided by those asian fordable walls. Literally can't see shit and also hot af. Person massaging me was the middle aged lady that greeted me 😭😭 lots of chatter from the other customers. I think the girl in the next section sounded younger at least. It was a pretty decent massage tbh.

Notes; a younger sounding girl said she was heading off but my masseuse (May, the owner?) was asking her to stay for the party upstairs after. May(?) then let me know that they have regular karaoke parties or something and asked if I was interested. Being a social dumbass I didn't say yay or nay to it. Added her on wechat and the day after she apologised for all the noise and rush and offered a detox tea kit next time I was in haha

Walked past this place today and don’t know what to make of it. Has the look of a RnT but yet to hear of anyone getting part 2
Interest may get the better of me

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Originally Posted by The Sampler

I will just add to the story that it was really only Yvonne that had the language barrier. The other ladies were pretty good at their English. Enough to ask me cash or card, if the pressure was okay and how much to pay lol

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I just noticed that the first time Yvonne had no panties and let you observe the fact. The second time she had slacks and knocked you back - there's just a chance that the slacks were an indication that the red flag was flying second time around?

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Originally Posted by priapus1966

I just noticed that the first time Yvonne had no panties and let you observe the fact. The second time she had slacks and knocked you back - there's just a chance that the slacks were an indication that the red flag was flying second time around?

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Those slacks came off pretty quick mid session though and the poses she put me in were very suggestive lol.

I'm glad for throwashx's experience, part of the puzzle of things lining up with my experience as well. Now I know May is the owner lol. The young girl heard in your post was probably Yvonne.

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Originally Posted by Meng

I mean I had to learn Japanese and Indonesian in highschool here but am I confident that I can go to Indonesia and Japan and just speak the language. Hell no. I don't think I could even understand basics. All I can say in Indonesian is Bagus and apa kabar lol.

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So it is a good reason to spent more time with indo or jap WL,
For Academic Purpose

I visited this place on Friday. Went a few days earlier though but was told to wait half an hour, and instead made a booking for the Friday. Was promised a "beautiful face", which was Yvonne.

Showed up a little early and had to wait. Idk if I made the mistake of asking whether or not to leave my undies on. May said to leave them on. She returned and was going to begin but I asked for Yvonne. So she left and called her. Waited for 10 minutes for Yvonne to arrive. She turns up wearing pants and a mask so can't see much of this 'beautiful face'. I did get the elbow treatment but that's about it. The massage was fine but I think get better massages and feel much more teased at my usual legit massage parlour. There at the end of it all there's a fair bit of precum going on. Price at $70/hour isn't bad though for this place. Not sure if I should return to have one more go with my undies off. YMMV I guess.

Visited this place today with a booking for Yvonne.

I was told to wait a bit at the front and then was called to the back room. They had a shower and a toilet next to this room.

I came in and saw "Yvonne" washing her hands in the sink of the back room. It was a bit odd, there were hanging handles for standing massages but also lights which hung from the ceiling as well. The wall had books on the shelf. Kind of looked like a pop-up room as it was divided from another room with a standing partition. "Yvonne" was older than what I expected and she was wearing a blue tracksuit outfit. Nothing promiscuous here but I feel like the real Yvonne was in the other room given there was a voice that sounded much like a younger lady.

The massage was decent, but have had better. At times it was too hard and I let her know. I opted for the hot stone as well which was a nice touch, but it was an extra $10. I had been charged $70 but I asked for a cheaper price given I gave a call earlier and was told it would be $59. Left feeling a bit better but not much to say from that. It was odd that the lady was in the room as I got changed down to my undies and also stayed while I dressed up - no mention of keeping undies on. Might try coming in randomly asking for a young girl next time.

Would be keen to hear anyone else's experience.

I get the vibe from this thread that this 'Yvonne' is a mysterious ML that everyone is trying to get a piece of... Quite amusing.