Why do you prefer RNT over FS?

I wouldn't say this is why I go to RNT over FS, but one of the advantages of RNT is that I don't actually have to fuck the girl that I book if I didn't feel like it during the session.

As crazy as it sounds, sometimes I take a punt on a new girl and something about her just puts me off completely. Then I'm stuck there not actually wanting to have sex with her. If it was an FS place, it becomes a real chore. I'd be forcing myself to go through with it because I've paid for sex. The worst punts, I couldn't even finish... Just zero attraction there.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

I wouldn't say this is why I go to RNT over FS, but one of the advantages of RNT is that I don't actually have to fuck the girl that I book if I didn't feel like it during the session.

As crazy as it sounds, sometimes I take a punt on a new girl and something about her just puts me off completely. Then I'm stuck there not actually wanting to have sex with her. If it was an FS place, it becomes a real chore. I'd be forcing myself to go through with it because I've paid for sex. The worst punts, I couldn't even finish... Just zero attraction there.

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Exactly this, spot on.

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Originally Posted by Rogeryou

It’s rare these days to go the a massage shop and not get FS

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Not only this but many MLs are offering CBJ which was not offered years ago. Just NHJ and maybe body slide.

Pros of RNT:

1. more relaxing and erotic experience (if you start with part 1 that is)
2. you have more selection (more rnt shops and more selection of girls)
3. a bit more discreet (massage shop vs brothel)

Cons of RNT:

1. uncertainty of FS, not sure if the ML will offer part 3 (although most do these days, it's still up to the girl)
2. need to talk/haggle extra etc
3. most places have no bed, gotta fuck on a massage table


Pros of FS:

1. guaranteed sex, none of the extra BS, you go in and expect FS
2. may workout to be cheaper if all you want is sex, depends on where you go
3. all FS shops have bed and most of them have shower

cons of FS:

1. less discreet, i.e. brothel
2. less relaxing/erotic compared to RNT, also this depends on the girl, but in general yes
3. more tiring, you gotta put in the work and fuck, it's a different kind of release compared to RNT (if you follow the part 1/2 sequence)


It used to be the case that if I wanted a fuck I'd go for a FS, otherwise RNT for relaxation and de-stress, but nowadays most RNT offer part 3, so it mostly comes down to selection of girls and the pro vs con I listed.

I want to get into RnT because it is potentially cheaper for what I want to get but so far prefer FS

1. In RnT I feel like I have to starfish and end up unsatisfied, not know what boundaries I can't cross. In FS I feel like I can do whatever I want. My last RnT session was better though when I discussed upfront what I wanted.
2. Related to 1, awkward having to pay a separate tip. How much should I pay? Am I getting ripped off?
3. Much more info on the girls in the FS places, more reviews and clearer pictures.
4. FS places have better facilities.

Would appreciate some tips from the RnT lovers.

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Originally Posted by paranoidpunter

I want to get into RnT because it is potentially cheaper for what I want to get but so far prefer FS

1. In RnT I feel like I have to starfish and end up unsatisfied, not know what boundaries I can't cross. In FS I feel like I can do whatever I want. My last RnT session was better though when I discussed upfront what I wanted.
2. Related to 1, awkward having to pay a separate tip. How much should I pay? Am I getting ripped off?
3. Much more info on the girls in the FS places, more reviews and clearer pictures.
4. FS places have better facilities.

Would appreciate some tips from the RnT lovers.

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Haha, bro, for saving money, here's how it's gonna work in your head.

You're going to be flipping and flopping between HJ or FS release. You'll tally up the pros and cons of both.
Then you might end up choosing RNT HJ release for cost effectiveness, but you might go there feeling real salty about yourself thinking "fark me, I need to fuck a girl, why am I here getting a HJ? What's this second rate service shit...".

So you go through with it all salty like. Then you NUT. Guess what happens after you nut, bro?

Suddenly the heavens open up, a chorus of sweet voices sing in unison, a glowing light shines from behind the ML like she's some kind of saint, a thousand doves fly up to the heavens... And that's when you have CLARITY. All you needed was to NUT, bro.

Do not listen to your little head. He's like the biggest diva out there. Always needs to have the best of the best, but just let him jizz and he'll be fine!

Oh man that's exactly how I felt in the dud RnT session, an expensive wank, could have done it myself.

I've never done FS at RnT, and I'm gonna stick to that rule if I want a 'cheaper' session. Main thing I don't want is that mechanical HJ with no body contact, which is what I'm really paying for.

Sometimes actually want a massage, part 2 just a bonus.

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Originally Posted by paranoidpunter

Main thing I don't want is that mechanical HJ with no body contact, which is what I'm really paying for.

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Nothing worse. Worst HE I've had is from an Aussie girl who used to work at Bodytone, completely mechanical HJ and when j finished she put a box of tissues next to me and was off washing her hands before I'd even finished cumming. Never went back

I rarely go for HJ only at RnT shops these days, what's the point? I can just jerk off at home to my favorite porn...for free, most of them give a mechanical HJ anyway, I prefer my own hand, I know the tempo and speed to achieve maximum orgasm...If I see a hot girl I prefer to fuck her, not asking her to give me a mechanical HJ, I don't care for erotism these days, I prefer action, I know some people are wired differently, these days if I want a massage to relax I visit a legit massage shop, none of that extra BS.

The only downside of this is I need to do my research beforehand on the shop/girl, any ARs, whether the girl offers FS etc, and if I see a new hot ML that has no reviews/ARs, I run a risk of not getting what I want...that's the advantage of going to a FS place, you know beforehand what you are getting into.

I am a strong RnT merchant with very rare FS visits.

For me, it is relaxation. I go to an RnT with no pre-conceptions of FS or BJ etc but rather to try to get a good, soothing and relaxing massage, although I do prefer if the lady is cute or quite attractive but even then, give me a nice bright eyed smile and I am happy as looks are not everything (hell, I am no adonis). I do prefer a naked massage and find that many places will offer or discuss this up front and can say that I have had naked massages that involved no other sexual activity, just a massage and occasional body slide although I admit control is difficult at times.

I find the atmosphere of a massage to be more to my liking. There is the unknown at times of what will happen and when as some ladies will discuss at teh start and yet others will read your reactions and touch body parts to tingle teh sense, and others just outright explore what they get away with, and then will openly chat of options. The thrill of not knowing what will occur is something I find extremely erotic and exciting, which adds to the relaxation effects I experience at RnT's.

Absolutely at times the massage is great irrespective of what then happens and I have visited places where i can get an RnT purely for a massage, even on a couple of occasions with a girl that we have done more another time. Funny how when I have done that the erotic feeling and relaxtions has been off the scales ............... that self control again.

For FS to me it is more robotic. You pay for a service and the lady will give it and often in my experience it is impersonal and can feel to be distant, going through the motion type of actions which are not indicucing relaxtion in me.

Each their own but for me, the whole aspect of RnT tickles the senses (while hopefuly the lady may tickle elsewhere)

Massage parlour definitely if the owner cares about return business and ensures the ladies give good service
Brothel if the price is reasonable

Young or milf, doesn't matter, because good sex is good sex

There is a certain thrill about RNT because you never know if there will be a Part 3. The anticiaption is something that keeps you potentially coming back for more. As easy as that

I like both. Better if massage has a part 3.

I like RnTs because customers have options to choose: Part 1,part 2,part 3. One can stay in the same stage or proceed to next steps if ML is attractive and agrees to proceed.

I keep dipping my toes into FS and getting hugely disappointed by a number of things

* Looks are nowhere near. I don't know what it is, but it's like punters seems to have cataracts, or have serious fever to the point where ANY Asian lady looks good to them. IMHO anyway.

* As a few stated, the service is sort of mechanical. I don't blame em tbh they getting pumped so often it's hard to maintain a really passionate service for every single punter.

* if for some reason the fault is mine (can't get it up, lost interest due to the mechnical nature etc) then it's a really expensive dud or really expensive HJ if that's what ended up getting me over the line.

I just RnT has much better looking girls overall, they are generally speaking more intimate and from a cost point of view I didn't lose as much on duds.

So I think I'm going to stick to RnT. If there's like a forum favourite where literally everyone says must see I might go see them at FS

These days you get both experiences so it doesn't really matter. Depends on what mood you're in and who's doing it.

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Originally Posted by F0x

I keep dipping my toes into FS and getting hugely disappointed by a number of things

* Looks are nowhere near. I don't know what it is, but it's like punters seems to have cataracts, or have serious fever to the point where ANY Asian lady looks good to them. IMHO anyway.

* As a few stated, the service is sort of mechanical. I don't blame em tbh they getting pumped so often it's hard to maintain a really passionate service for every single punter.

* if for some reason the fault is mine (can't get it up, lost interest due to the mechnical nature etc) then it's a really expensive dud or really expensive HJ if that's what ended up getting me over the line.

I just RnT has much better looking girls overall, they are generally speaking more intimate and from a cost point of view I didn't lose as much on duds.

So I think I'm going to stick to RnT. If there's like a forum favourite where literally everyone says must see I might go see them at FS

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I think you'll find that, in terms of costs, the goal post has shifted a lot more for FS than it did for RNT. It is the effects of inflation multiplied by the "baseline" of what FS used to cost vs what RNT used to cost.

I think the inflation level is the same percentage wise (about 20%?), but the dollar number is obviously larger for FS than RNT because the starting baseline are different.

For example, good quality FS in a quality shop used to cost around $250 - 300 /hr before all the inflation began to hit.

Now it costs around $330 - $350 (not sure what the max rate is now).
Going by price is usually a good bet on getting a good punt. At least *something* will be good about it.

i like RNT, part 3 is always the adventure fun

50/50 for me depends how lazy i feel