Can't agree more plus emotionally not drainedQuote:
Originally Posted by mn69
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Can't agree more plus emotionally not drainedQuote:
Originally Posted by mn69
It's possible, but it will be a monumental effort for them.
Being a WL is a full time job. All those years doing it would be lost time to gain other skills, unless they put in the effort of having a solid backup plan at the same time. Maybe studying for a degree or learning how to start a business of some sort.
This route is probably too hard for them. I reckon that's why we see so many ex-WLs turn to low skill work that pay well if they do a good job, like becoming a realtor.
The thing is that I know a few WL's that have completed their studies a few years ago and continue to work in the industry. They come to Sydney from China, do their studies and work as WL to support their studies. Once Uni is finished, they continue working in the industry and most will go down the path of getting PR through sponsorship which is not that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
They continue working as WL's because its all they know. Yes, they have a uni degree but the WL life has already developed into a long term thing like most of them.
Meh, I prefer to be banging as many hot girls as I can. We only have one life broQuote:
Originally Posted by cometoIndia
Call me a bigot, a pessimist or whatever, but I know many guys who "fell in love". Story all ends the same way
Let me know how "love" goes once she divorces you, takes everything, gets your pension, takes the kids then drags you through family court for ongoing child support. And you cant forget about the false "abuse" accusations too
I’m not sure I agree with you Mr Nice Guy. The thing that surprised me with meeting WLs and ML is just how normal and everyday they were. Also many are highly educated. The lifestyle you talk about is a bit exaggerated as the hours they work in a difficult industry means that sleeping is usually their favorite hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niceguy11
Now of course there is a clear delineation between MLs And WLs.
MLs especially the ones I have met tend to vary their service to suit their comfort level. A BBBJ for me might be a HJ for you. (Especially if you’re hairy smelly or scary)
I’ve also met funny and thoughtful WLs.
Of course there is coercion and crime in this industry so obviously many WLs not so satisfied with there job.
This is a good thread. A lot of people genuinely care about the ladies they meet and wish them well. I’m one of them.
Saving for a better future seems to be a strong motivation.
This is sad, but I suspect also true. I think once girls have worked in this job for too long, they become very cynical about guys and relationships in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by mn69
That's a very good point that's hardly brought up. Working 5 years in this industry means a 5 year gap in their resume. When their next employer asks what they did or learnt during their time in Australia what are they going to say? When their future boyfriend or husband asks what they did during their time in Austtalia what are they going to say? You can't just brush over these things or else people become suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
I think you're missing the point. The point is that these girls make huge amounts of money, even MLs who don't provide extras. Where else can they earn this type of money this fast? The answer is nowhere, and if they want to maintain the same level of income then they have to keep doing this job. No one wants to go backwards in salary, so it's almost like these girls have no choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by DueNorth
Have to disagree on one point. Only very few of them are highly educated. Rest just highschool or even many of them dropped highschool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DueNorth
Spot on! Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by mn69
I think it very much depends on the individual and their strength of purpose.
One well known WL I saw a few times before she retired in late 20 had a clear purpose of buying and paying off an apartment in Sydney.
She did that and promptly pulled up stumps, said goodbye and disappeared after a medium length WL career.
She had her purpose, knew what she wanted and how to get it and when she did she left and haven't heard of her in 4 years.
She was focused and smart.
Not all are like her.
One girl I know did it privately at a dodgy apartment in Burwood. Lasted about 6 months, then realised people found out and then quit.
She finished her juris doctor and started as a paralegal for a Chinese law firm without PR.
Some girls are just not cut out for it.
No girl doing straight massage is making big money. Averaging $25 an hour or something, and these days the shops are quiet. Even ones working for tips, Post-COVID, post cost of living crisis, I really doubt there are girls pulling $10k a week like some I knew before COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by faruk
I think it's probably worse for WL because they can't choose who they offer what to, and establishment takes a larger slice of the money.
Probably also depends on whether they worked in a party shop. Knew a girl was clean before this industry but couldn't let that shit go, but stopped to have a baby. For a short time she claimed she was cured of meth and never wanted to work in a shop again. Not long after she was back on it and talking about a return.
Agree with you on that. In my near 30 years punting experience, only ever met 2 girls that were really educated. One was a private, early 20s Chinese girl studying for a master degree in USyd, the other was a K girl who graduated from Macquarie Uni with a degree in data science.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joun23
The other girls I've met, some may be highly intelligent, but certainly not educated.
Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life
What the fuck is a normal life?
- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.
Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.
So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.
As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!
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You the Daddy? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Joun23
True. Normal life = life for the average personQuote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
Anyone outside of the normal life is abnormal by definition
If you can afford to punt & travel to punt, means you are doing alot better than the average person financially. I would rather be "abnormal"
The life you describe is the life for many people. Some people are even worse off than that. Think of the people that live in parts of Asia where there's poverty. They live in apartments not much bigger than a cubicle. Then there are those that live in ways that we would almost consider them homeless by Australian standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
When I have travelled in parts of Asia, I saw that some older people were selling fruit and vegetables on the side of the road or similar. They must wake up everyday to do that and you assume their standard of living isn't very high.
Many people in Sydney pretty much work 9-5, 5 days per week and have the weekends off. Many are probably not slaving at work either. However, there does seem to be a lack of free time. I'm not sure if people have more free time now or three decades ago. There are so many conveniences now but it seems like people are expected to do more. Not many people have enough money where they don't need to work or can work fairly easily. The majority of people are middle class and generally have to work reasonably hard to get through life.
I'm recently going through a bit of an existential crisis. So reading your post has made me think. You do describe a fairly bleak description of life. However, let me say that many of my friends are happily married with kids and seem to live fairly wholesome lives. Their lives aren't without stress, but it seems fairly wholesome. Meanwhile I'm single and still paying for sex. It was fun years ago, but I don't really want to continue on this path now because it's an empty and lonely road. I've had gfs in the past but they weren't the right girls. I fear fucking so many WL has made me lose the ability to pair bond and also my standards are now pretty fucking high, especially with social media which seems to have rot my brain.
What I might try to do is punt to enjoy myself but not have it as a compulsion like before. That shit can't be mentally healthy.
I know a guy that met a massage girl in the shop and now they have two kids and live in Japan. There are WL that I have met in the shop and they were studying at uni and they don't work anymore, so I assume they quit and are working "regular" jobs.
One WL I know is now married after moving back to Japan. Another one got married and divorced and now has a new bf.
I think some girls can do it. I'm not sure how they can just forget all the shit they went through during their WL days. I mean that shit must be fairly traumatic but I guess some can handle it better than others. Just like some soldiers go to war and are never the same again while some probably are able to go back to civilian life and live normal lives.
The ones that are mentally strong adjust. They are just having sex for money, it's not that bad lol. They often have issues that's for sure but so does everyone else. Doctors, cops, lawyers etc all jobs have stress and impact your health and how you are with your loved ones.
The girls are fine.