Well said Mass .. never underestimate a WL/ML of her financial savvy OR her intelligence and compassion .. as stated not all are bimbos (plus heartless and junkies) as presumed by some puntersQuote:
Originally Posted by massageangel
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Well said Mass .. never underestimate a WL/ML of her financial savvy OR her intelligence and compassion .. as stated not all are bimbos (plus heartless and junkies) as presumed by some puntersQuote:
Originally Posted by massageangel
Agree with massageangel and Hedonisticfun. IME, the vast majority I've known are simply working to provide for their family - offspring, parents, siblings - and to provide for themselves "later on". No CentreLink, superannuation back home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonisticfun
Yes, they might buy some designer products - gifts for family back home to show respect (and success), or to sell back home.
Just nice, decent people you're glad you've met. I've certainly asked myself if my life necessitated those choices, would I be so nice? Methinks not.
YMMV.
With the money some of these massage ladies make, I often think I should open a shop to service Sydney’s older ladies and make a fortune.
Then reality hits and I realise nobody would come to the shop!:startle:
There are many mature WLs barely make enough to get by in the western Sydney budget brothels.
its probebly not as good as u think
a lot of these women are bad at money or life in general, no one born into the world going into this proffession its usually asians that have failed their coutnries brutal exams etc, and need a way out.
quick maffs:
WL at Ginza comes in for a year. $320 an hour, 50% venue fee that's $160 an hour. Maybe shes book 6 hours a day that's $960. 5 days a week? $4800? maybe around $230k a year best case.
Is she payin taxes? Probably. 155k annually. Holidays, sik days, and days where shes just not wanting to getting railed 6 hours a day? Shes down to maybe 130k.
Rent in the cbd? $600 a week shared with a friend? $900 a week alone? -36k on avg. 100k left.
Food, clothes? prolly down to 80k left.
Holidays around australia, loius vitton bags, daily bubba tea and dinner out? Probably down to 30-40k saved.
That might be a lot if shes from say Thailand, but to be real aussies living here are saving about that much and they're not even getting railed 6 hours a day for it. most of them ar working from home doing nothing.
Its basically just an average job that requires no qualifications to get slightly above average pay. Japan n Korea's eocnomy is in the shitter so to them it might be a lot, for chinese its alot for viets and thais its definitely a lot. But only back home.
If she's 'aussie rich' driving a 200k car around. She's living it up and burning out early. rented car. live it up. 0 savings. spend a couple of years in australia before moving back to japan and i dont know what happens to these people
Bro, I can smell your tall-poppy syndrome from my tablet. Your math and even your rationale, none of them hold any water. Even if the lady goes astray as you clearly wish and blows all her cash, she would've lived a life far more enriched than the average worker that you somehow managed to compare her to. Where did that part of the rationale go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
I’m currently watching one who has failed on properties and now has a business venture. I already know how that’s going to pan out but she’s done it for a particular reason as she has a kind heart but “other people” need to support themselves. How long she endures before she shuts it down depends on her finances but she’s always slow on pulling the trigger. Given the fact I’ve made decisions for her previously I know how she operates so this time it’ll be her own choosing.
They need to individually market themselves online and not wait for customers to walk in.Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
i spoke to a few of them at ginza, in between shots usually i like to cuddle and ask them what their plans are etc.
stuff i hear from there is not the stuff of "im rich!"
look im not harbouring any ill will, i hope they succeed, i truely do and im sure some of the private ones thatve found a niche do make absolute bonkers bank. But the standard WL working at a brothel isnt living some lavish life.
is she doing better than the construction wworkers that visit her? possibly.
but it isn't 200k merc tier its just comfortable living level... and thats putting aside havin to suck 6 different raw dicks a day
Sendmetheacti is right. It’s not that much compared to us. Just because they don’t pay tax, and they’ll convert the dollars into whatever shit currency they have back home. So yes, it’s a ton for them, not for us though.
I know a massage girl who is early 40s, you guys think she is late 20s/early 30s in her reviews. How you guys can't tell by her face is beyond me, but she has a decent body. This girl has an old boyfriend giving her $3k a week for the last 10 years! He doesn't know she does this work, although they met in the shops he thinks she now is working a normal job. She is popular so she is probably making more doing massage than her allowance.
She got caught cheating on her bf once and he took her back, simp probably apologised to her for catching her lol. She is now also looking for 1 more Sugar daddy!
Bro, for one thing, this thread is titled “how rich CAN a WL be?”. It’s clearly about maxxing. Yet you want to focus on an average WL doing average hours. That’s like asking “how rich can an entrepreneur be?” and choosing not to talk about Elon Musk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
Now let’s talk about your numbers. Shop fee is not 50%, I’ve got no idea where you got that number from. It’s closer to $100 for the hour and it’s a flat fee. Next, the rent. These girls live in shared accommodation almost exclusively. I’ve certainly not met any that rented their own apartment alone.
Clothes? The only branded clothes they wear would’ve been bought for them by simping wannabe BFs. Other times, they buy it from drop shippers cheaper than we know how to get them because they come from those countries that supply the cheap clothes.
I reckon most of them do not pay tax but I’ll leave it at this. I’m surprised you actually expect them to do it, like it’s a normal thing lolll
Even if we go by what you said and she ends up saving “only” 30-40k. Bruh… do you really think most Aussie workers save that much in a year?
Not sure where you are getting these numbers from. The Japanese girls I had working at Pitt Street were getting paid $1800-$2200 a day so surely Ginza girls are doing better than that. Plus with any extras they charge in the room is more money. Rent should be Zero dollars if they stay in shop otherwise dorm stay usually $150/$200 a week. Bubble tea usually paid for by customer or shop and for food these girls only really eat one meal a day. Clothes are from Shein and the designer stuff is usually just a couple peices the rest is clones or paid for by the rich client as gifts. If they go on holidays some of them still work, sometimes the trip is paid for by the rich client as a gift. The only real time they have off that are major expenses is for cosmetic surgery but even then thats cheap in korea. Some girls are very smart and well set up for the future the other half maybe not so much, all this time and effort just to pass everything you earned to your fake host bf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
From the bushes?Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
If an ml/wl is making on average 200k aud undeclared yearly,
that is the equivalent of earning approx 350k a year tax medicare and super included
That puts her in the top 2% of income earners
Then factor gifts, sponsorship, tips, some regularly get - my EXAMPLE of the Viet ML one year alone was given a minimum of 80k by 3 special friends and a car at 50% its actual value
This ML is clearing more than 300k ( not including gifts) yearly . With 120k declared income - about to buy second property, 1st property almost paid off . Owns /bought property for family in Vn and currently funding total rebuild of family home
So unless they have serious addictions/issues , they are doing very well
Agree with this. The ones I talked to were making around 40k per month in Ginza (after com) and nothing was declared. They wouldn't come all the way to Australia unless the pay was very interesting. Even so Japan salaries are low, you can still get good money when you work in the sex industry locally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abs90
Massage ladies who are popular and working in a busy shop can certainly earn this. I know who your example is and she is a workaholic. I’m not sure many people could work as hard as she does.Quote:
Originally Posted by massageangel
Other girls who are in quieter shops would be happy with 3 or 4 customers a day and certainly wouldn’t be as well off as your example.
The potential is definitely there to earn a fortune for the right lady in the right place.
Yes salaries in Japan are hideously low. Incredible considering how developed they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rrayjin
Those numbers you mentioned are inline with the employment page on the GC website.
Was asked some years ago by a WL to join the industry as I'd definitely have some business but the thought of doing some women I've seen in supermarkets and shops would put me right off let alone DATY .Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy13
High libido as I have , I can only perform with someone who has high hygiene at least and I'm my opinion reasonable looks though bodies have varied from thin , short to carrying a small spare
You are right. While I can find something beautiful in most women, a customer with poor hygiene would absolutely be abproblem for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonisticfun