ML vs WL: who earns more ?

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Originally Posted by TMC (free cage girl)

we only take 2 booking a day. because if the girl take many customer. girls can't provide proper service.

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You're very lucky then ! If a girl with the quality of Therapist, and only gets 2 jobs a day, which translates to under $500 income, most will leave the agency or shop very quickly !

TP64 girls earn between 800-1000 per shift.

Most of the 85/150 shops, the cut is 50WL/35 shop and 100/WL/50 shop for the hour. I would say this price structure is on average the most common. Sure there are higher end shops, but their would be more 150/hr shops than any other type. (maybe $10 either way).

I know of 2 ML's who have transferred from being WL's for the reason that they can pick and choose which customers they fuck. These 2 girls would take home anywhere between 300 and 600 for a 10am-8pm shift each day, some days being better than others.

ML's also prefer the 30moin shifts as there cut is higher by percentage than it is over the hour due to the discounted rate. However WL's rate atays at $50/half an hour irrespective of how long the booking is.

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Originally Posted by Mr Crash and Burn

TP64 girls earn between 800-1000 per shift.

Most of the 85/150 shops, the cut is 50WL/35 shop and 100/WL/50 shop for the hour. I would say this price structure is on average the most common. Sure there are higher end shops, but their would be more 150/hr shops than any other type. (maybe $10 either way).

I know of 2 ML's who have transferred from being WL's for the reason that they can pick and choose which customers they fuck. These 2 girls would take home anywhere between 300 and 600 for a 10am-8pm shift each day, some days being better than others.

ML's also prefer the 30moin shifts as there cut is higher by percentage than it is over the hour due to the discounted rate. However WL's rate atays at $50/half an hour irrespective of how long the booking is.

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Very good explanation, thanks.

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Originally Posted by wilisno

You're very lucky then ! If a girl with the quality of Therapist, and only gets 2 jobs a day, which translates to under $500 income, most will leave the agency or shop very quickly !

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Oh! It's true.

we didn't earn from girl now. i actually i feed them Attachment 12547

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Originally Posted by TMC (free cage girl)

WL work hard, because many people booking 30mins with girl on this forum.

how many client WL get per day and make 800-1000???

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High end private indepandant escorts . THat charge 500-1000 per hour. All they need is 1 or 2 cliients or better yet one client who books for 2 hours plus and bang easy money. There was this asian escort named jasmin jaro. Read a review on her and some guy paid her 10k to go on holiday with her. Thats just 10k for her to say yes and fuck him like crazy not including other stuff. THen he prob paid extra for 5 star hotels plane ticket, prob spending money shopping etc and food and activitivties etc etc prob another 10k on top so poor bugger prob ended up paying 20k plus for a holiday with her. Fcuck that was the easieast money she ever made. 10k in her a pocket and a free holiday.

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Originally Posted by Omen

High end private indepandant escorts . THat charge 500-1000 per hour. All they need is 1 or 2 cliients or better yet one client who books for 2 hours plus and bang easy money. There was this asian escort named jasmin jaro. Read a review on her and some guy paid her 10k to go on holiday with her. Thats just 10k for her to say yes and fuck him like crazy not including other stuff. THen he prob paid extra for 5 star hotels plane ticket, prob spending money shopping etc and food and activitivties etc etc prob another 10k on top so poor bugger prob ended up paying 20k plus for a holiday with her. Fcuck that was the easieast money she ever made. 10k in her a pocket and a free holiday.

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She seems over-priced to me:
http://www.privategirls.com.au/jasmine_jaro_melb.php
http://www.highclassasianescort.com/international.html

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Originally Posted by wilisno

And furthermore, they said ML's job is actually much harder, they said after the first day of work at a massage place, they were so tired that they couldn't close theIr fingers to hold a bowl of rice or apply the chopsticks at dinner time !

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This is a true statement if you are talking about shopping centre massage jobs ！

Yes, those jobs are very tough and very tiring and if the ml didn't learn properly how to apply the body weight to add to her strength, she can easily hurt her own hands and fingers too! That's why so many legit mls switch to RnT so that the demand on their body is less and they can earn more tips by doing the tugs ! And even more tips if they get naked and a lot more money if they do some more extras and the lists goes on........

I can write for the next few hours and share some more, but it's getting late, may be some other times

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Mr Crash and Burn

TP64 girls earn between 800-1000 per shift.

Most of the 85/150 shops, the cut is 50WL/35 shop and 100/WL/50 shop for the hour. I would say this price structure is on average the most common. Sure there are higher end shops, but their would be more 150/hr shops than any other type. (maybe $10 either way).

I know of 2 ML's who have transferred from being WL's for the reason that they can pick and choose which customers they fuck. These 2 girls would take home anywhere between 300 and 600 for a 10am-8pm shift each day, some days being better than others.

ML's also prefer the 30moin shifts as there cut is higher by percentage than it is over the hour due to the discounted rate. However WL's rate atays at $50/half an hour irrespective of how long the booking is.

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MLs@SF or SL surely are more likely to be within the 600-800 bracket per shift even with the occasional above-mentioned services ?? they're always insanely busy !

I always thought that WLs had a choice if they feel uncomfortable with the customer(at least at TP64 & 533W) which is commendable. No punt ever feels right when they're disinterested to being with. still @$50/30mins clocking in 40hrs per week, there's a lot of coin for a TP64 girl, suddenly i feel like an underachiever.

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

She seems over-priced to me:
http://www.privategirls.com.au/jasmine_jaro_melb.php
http://www.highclassasianescort.com/international.html

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Yeah tell me about way over priced and i still cant beleive some guy paid her 10k for a week.

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Originally Posted by Omen

Yeah tell me about way over priced and i still cant beleive some guy paid her 10k for a week.

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i normally spend around $400 for one night for dinner and drink not include hotel room , just go out with some one.
If i book hotel room, $300 plus on $400. total $700. ............. that girl looks 35-38yo Asian girl.

if she want to charge $1000 for 1 hour, it's ok for the price but, i can find another way to spend $1000.

if you spend 10K for a week, i think it's not expensive and still someone want to booking with that girl.
but If i spend 10k for girl, i want to take my dog for hawaii and i will book the flight business class and I will drink with Japanese girl over there.......

Nah its expensive 10k for a hooker. for a whole week if u look at her pricing structure it would be reasonably priced as she charges 800 the hour.. U gotta remeber the 10k was just for her to come and fuck and not include other expenses. now if the 10k included everything plane ticket hotel food maybe it be bit more reasonable . But it didnt. He had to pay extra for hotel, plane ticket prob food, shopping, activitivities... so that in reality he prob spend close to 20k plus.
Anyways her pricing seems to be fair as she clearly gets business so credit to her. BUt me i wouldnt pay 800 for her

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Originally Posted by Omen

Nah its expensive 10k for a hooker. for a whole week if u look at her pricing structure it would be reasonably priced as she charges 800 the hour.. U gotta remeber the 10k was just for her to come and fuck and not include other expenses. now if the 10k included everything plane ticket hotel food maybe it be bit more reasonable . But it didnt. He had to pay extra for hotel, plane ticket prob food, shopping, activitivities... so that in reality he prob spend close to 20k plus.
Anyways her pricing seems to be fair as she clearly gets business so credit to her. BUt me i wouldnt pay 800 for her

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I can understand. i think you can get girl with out money and you can pick up girl from outside, so $800 is not worth for this girl.
yeah, we can get proper girl out side and pick up without money.

so we can spend 10k for food and drink and call 20 girls for one place!! but someone is old and noway to spend money, who might use this girl for escort....
i don't want to be old man!!!!!

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Originally Posted by TMC (free cage girl)

I can understand. i think you can get girl with out money and you can pick up girl from outside, so $800 is not worth for this girl.
yeah, we can get proper girl out side and pick up without money.

so we can spend 10k for food and drink and call 20 girls for one place!! but someone is old and noway to spend money, who might use this girl for escort....
i don't want to be old man!!!!!

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Hahaha yeah man I don't wanna be old man. But if I was old an and had 20k I'd rather do something else with the money

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

This is a true statement if you are talking about shopping centre massage jobs ！

Yes, those jobs are very tough and very tiring and if the ml didn't learn properly how to apply the body weight to add to her strength, she can easily hurt her own hands and fingers too! That's why so many legit mls switch to RnT so that the demand on their body is less and they can earn more tips by doing the tugs ! And even more tips if they get naked and a lot more money if they do some more extras and the lists goes on........

I can write for the next few hours and share some more, but it's getting late, may be some other times

Cheers

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The switch from shopping center to RnT solves the finger problem.
But it creates a tennis elbow problem, lol.

I think this thread is a bit naive in it's approach.... I think the disparity in income will be more in the individual's approach as opposed to the job.

With these jobs depending on a number of factors, a few off the top of my head would be:

-looks
-services
-ability to communicate and build connections
-effort
-moral standards

for instance I think a very pretty, greatly skilled, hard working girl who is able to build rapport and lie through her teeth to hook clients will be extremely successful regardless of if she is a ML or WL.

but if she lacks all of the above she will not do well IMO.

If you are saying should a girl be a ML or WL... and which one pays more, again it depends on her skillset and which factors she excels in.

In terms of ML charging more for extra's and that is why she has the potential to earn more, does that make her a WL? lets say she's a ML in shop but does private stuff with her built clients and has sex with them.... again another area where definitions need to be made.


ML or WL who earns more? I'd say it depends on the girl.

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Originally Posted by gggb

I think this thread is a bit naive in it's approach.... I think the disparity in income will be more in the individual's approach as opposed to the job.

With these jobs depending on a number of factors, a few off the top of my head would be:

-looks
-services
-ability to communicate and build connections
-effort
-moral standards

for instance I think a very pretty, greatly skilled, hard working girl who is able to build rapport and lie through her teeth to hook clients will be extremely successful regardless of if she is a ML or WL.

but if she lacks all of the above she will not do well IMO.

If you are saying should a girl be a ML or WL... and which one pays more, again it depends on her skillset and which factors she excels in.

In terms of ML charging more for extra's and that is why she has the potential to earn more, does that make her a WL? lets say she's a ML in shop but does private stuff with her built clients and has sex with them.... again another area where definitions need to be made.


ML or WL who earns more? I'd say it depends on the girl.

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But you can't argue the fact that if both are on equal terms, which means same qualities as in look, skill, attitude etc. then a WL will definitely be on top in earning.

I know a lady who works 4 days a week at 4 different $150 shops. 1xsouth,1x innerwest,2xnorth. I see her regularly same day every week and have become quite friendly with her.During chitchat she has told me a great deal about being a W/L. So here is a summary of her work;
1. works 4 days per week,less 12 weeks off for period time=208-48=160 days per year.Less holidays and sickdays of 15 days=nett 145 DAYS per year.
2.Half hour $90/lady $60..One hour $150/lady $100.She writes down each job as she comes into room and I have seen the above figures.
3Claims to do 8/12 jobs per day. Worst day 4 jobs best day 16 jobs. I have to take her word on this so I have taken an average of 10 jobs per day. I am also averaging her jobs at5 x half hour and 5 x 1 hour
4.So on any day-5x$60 =$300..5x $100 = $500.. $800 per day..or $3200 per week.. Thus working 145 days per year @ $800 per day is $116000 per annum.No idea about taxation but not bad bikkies for four days per week with one week in four off.
The lady is early 30s,nice body,one baby but smooth stomach, GFE,PSE,BBBJ etc PRC girl.Just providing these details to show I believe she is definitely capable of snaring 10 punters per day.
Hope this adds something to the topic.

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Originally Posted by numberonebigsize

I know a lady who works 4 days a week at 4 different $150 shops. 1xsouth,1x innerwest,2xnorth. I see her regularly same day every week and have become quite friendly with her.During chitchat she has told me a great deal about being a W/L. So here is a summary of her work;
1. works 4 days per week,less 12 weeks off for period time=208-48=160 days per year.Less holidays and sickdays of 15 days=nett 145 DAYS per year.
2.Half hour $90/lady $60..One hour $150/lady $100.She writes down each job as she comes into room and I have seen the above figures.
3Claims to do 8/12 jobs per day. Worst day 4 jobs best day 16 jobs. I have to take her word on this so I have taken an average of 10 jobs per day. I am also averaging her jobs at5 x half hour and 5 x 1 hour
4.So on any day-5x$60 =$300..5x $100 = $500.. $800 per day..or $3200 per week.. Thus working 145 days per year @ $800 per day is $116000 per annum.No idea about taxation but not bad bikkies for four days per week with one week in four off.
The lady is early 30s,nice body,one baby but smooth stomach, GFE,PSE,BBBJ etc PRC girl.Just providing these details to show I believe she is definitely capable of snaring 10 punters per day.
Hope this adds something to the topic.

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Thanks for sharing some inside information with us.

While you are at this, can you now work backwards and see how much money the shop is making ? since you know how many girls work there each day and what is the shop's cut, knowing the shop opens 7 days and may only close a few days a year - looking forward to seeing more numbers from you.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

Thanks for sharing some inside information with us.

While you are at this, can you now work backwards and see how much money the shop is making ? since you know how many girls work there each day and what is the shop's cut, knowing the shop opens 7 days and may only close a few days a year - looking forward to seeing more numbers from you.

Cheers

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What for ?

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Originally Posted by wilisno

What for ?

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I support!
...and .. what are you going to do about this?
1. It looks very profitable and more people open more shops ...
2. This is easy working out Opex and G & A then translate into profit and loss.
When the season is slow , running discount and promotion and kill all small shops......
Blood path and no one making any money.
Just kidding.