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I conclude lockdown until Christmas based on your geo-sexual analysis bro MisterWhippy! Shops to open February 2022 with QR Check-in and masks at all times. No DFK, blowjobs to be given by hole's in the mask to allow access. All shops will have each room live streamed to the health department to ensure compliance!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterWhippy
Also the local cop shop will have access to the streams, don't want them feeling left out!
Fortress Australia is a brilliant solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaestro
Closing the borders way back in Feb/March last year was a brilliant move.
If the rest of the world did the same thing this pandemic would have been tiny, in fact it wouldn't even be a pandemic, and would be pretty much over by now.
Fortress Australia meant that the virus never really had a chance to enter the country on a large enough scale to create a full blown pandemic here.
If we didn't close the borders we would be like the rest of the World with tens of thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of infections consistently for the last 18 months and still going strong. And the economy would be fucked up, instead of the current situation where the economy is doing better than ever with record low unemployment.
The government fucked up by not closing the borders tight enough and having a leaky quarantine system.
And the government fucked up by stuffing up the vaccination program.
Sure we have a bit of an outbreak now due to poor quarantine and not enough vaccination, but closed borders means it is a relatively small outbreak compared to other countries and will be brought under control.
Borders must remain closed and quarantine needs to be tightened up and vaccination needs to be turbo charged.
We are still by far the safest country in the World to be in right now thanks to the closed borders policy.
I said a month ago that knock and RNT shops wouldn't open until the new year at least and everybody laughed at me....Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterWhippy
Closed borders should have meant fully closed borders. So that would have meant no politicians travelling overseas for meetings, no sporting teams coming and going and no expats returning.
That would be a truly closed border and we all know that was never going to happen.
As has been previously mentioned the biggest problem has been the leaky quarantine system.
In hindsight, what should have been done was build special purpose quarantine centres in remote areas where returning travellers and staff have no contact with the general population. Locking up people in hotels in the middle of cities was a desperate move because there was no other alternative.
All we can do now is get the majority of the population vaccinated and plan on follow up booster shots because this virus is here to stay. Much like the common flu but just a lot more deadly in susceptible people.
The economy going better than ever????can I have some of what you are smoking bro we are going to be 1 trillion in debt by Christmas do you think all this money that has been blown in the last 2 years doesn't have to be paid back or scomo is just going to print some moreQuote:
Originally Posted by rooter
https://youtu.be/X_0zFEtPbiA
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Originally Posted by rooter
Excellent summary. 100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by DireStraits
So, in polls Scomo is the preferred PM, then No Idea, then Each Way Albo. What do you suggest we do?Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
If we have each way Albo at least he bet each way on the vax Az and Pfizer then we don't have issue with Pfizer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
He wouldn't have got Pfizer much earlier as the yanks took so much of it as Trump gave them so much development money. The biggest problem was the media doing a hatchet job on AZQuote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Or each way Albo may have done 50% vaccine and 50% no vaccine......Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Problem with ScoMo was he bet the house only on one vaccine maybe cos of the lucrative deal involving manufacturing. But if we had spread our bets like Albo. We would have got our Pfizer like all the other EU countries. Lots of EU countries got their Pfizer and Moderna supplies cos they didn't just bet on one horse. These Pharma have multiple factories supplying the world, so it's a purely a first come first serve deal and we were last.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
That scomo only bet on one horse. Why he only buy 10 millions dose not 20 millions or 30 millions dose. The answer is he try to save money because Pfizer cost 5 time more than AZ. It was report Pfizer cost $800 millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
Plus AZ could be made in Oz so supply wouldn't be an issue. Hindsight is very easy. Albo can say anything he wants (like anyone in opposition) but we will never know actually What he would have done if he was PM. Anyway there is nothing wrong with AZ apart from the media ripping it apartQuote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
I have Pfizer what you have. Az is like Russian roulette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
The media reported the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) advice to the Federal Government and that the Federal Government followed that advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
That's what the media does is a free democracy. Sometimes the truth is inconvenient, but the truth is the truth and has to be reported.
Then people can make their own choices.
This is Australia, not North Korea.
Would you prefer that the media ignored, or covered up the story?
As already mentioned by Vader above, I think the main reason was that the AZ vaccines could be manufactured locally by CSL, so logistically it’s a much saver bet as well as no shortage of supply. Pfizer on the other hand must be imported and had to be transported and stored at subzero temperatures . Then of course the cost factors too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Hindsight is a very good thing. If I was in his position, and with the limited data and health advices available at the time I probably would do the same. It was pure bad luck that AZ has already showing some fatal side effects which put a lot of people off for taking it. But all the vaccines have been produced in such high space and none really have done enough testing for long term health effects. So good luck to all of us.
I'm going to guess it will be once 80%+ of the local population have had 2 vaccine doses AND the spread is slowing/hospitalisations are declining substantially.
At best it will be later this year. Possibly December. Maybe January 2022. Unfortunately.
I was just commenting what I think happened. I wasn't criticising anything apart from maybe some the media going on and on as fear sells. I think your last line is over the top. But then, you laughed when I said knock shops and rnt wouldn't open until the end of this year or maybe even next.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
I am still laughing at that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
That is a ridiculous prediction.
You are such a Henny Penny :)
I reckon he's not far out, and it was "Chicken Little", Henny Penny is or was a chicken shop like Red rooster...sorry just lock down boredom...cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by rooter
So what do you base your opinion on?Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
BTW I mean legally open, we all know stacks are still operating now.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
It's Henny Penny in Australia. Chicken Little in the USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
I know a couple locally, but if I was to do it again it would be when they are all legally open, meanwhile the dog has started talking:grimace:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader