So do rightist sky news,fox news,news.com.au....... will shout you down if you don't agree with their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
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So do rightist sky news,fox news,news.com.au....... will shout you down if you don't agree with their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
We agree to disagree............Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Conservatives are better at dressing it in fine language.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
So on the left you've got "cancel culture": destroy people's careers/social standing if they step out of line.
Conservatives have "religious freedom", which basically means the churches have unbridled rights to discriminate (sack staff who come out gay etc.)
It amounts to the same thing, but it sounds so much nicer! 🤩
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I guess everyone is entitled to a mistake. Maybe you should have got a second opinion regarding your IQ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forward Must Hang
So you would like "I Don't Know as PM" as that rates higher than Each Way Albo in pollsQuote:
Originally Posted by Forward Must Hang
I don't really care but if I look at it purely from an in-his-shoes POV, that decreasing to go to Hawaii was pretty stupid, to be really frank. On one hand, sure he's got a family to look after, maybe a cranky wife and himself needing a holiday, on the other he's the PM of the country who's bread and butter is literally his public image. Surely when weighing the pros and cons of going on holiday at that time... We're taking about one of the worst environmental catastrophes in history here... He would've realised it was not the right thing to do. I don't call that courage or defiance, I call it stupidity. Really shot himself in the foot that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by punter-pie
No political alignment, but Scotty from marketing is a tool. Problem is, he is the face of a political party that really doesn't know what to do, except tell the world how good they are, even when they generally aren't.
The fact that you have a different opinion doesn't trouble me. The fact that you don't put up any argument, rather just want to throw insults, speaks volumes about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
Keep playing the man and not the ball, if it makes you feel valid.
Guess that's me done.
I could write a detailed reply but you would still be in denial so what is the point. However, bagging me and foul language does show your mindset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forward Must Hang
Scomo was dux of the year and had Gladys transitioned by then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by zoozilla
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian issued a warning to people hoping to be free of restrictions in October, reminding them any rewards would be only given to fully vaccinated citizens.
Cruel but fair..................Quote:
Originally Posted by konfuzion
She has been saying that for weeks. I can't see a problem as it is freedom of choice of if you get jabbed or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by konfuzion
Be careful of what you wish for.
After today's press briefing it now becomes clear that Public Health, in particular KC, are now in charge of the day to day movements of every citizen. The promise to shut down local towns, LGA's, suburbs and even businesses being dependant on case numbers. The only way this can happen is by constant surveillance, by QR check in's and forced testing of the population.
Today she said in response to a question "as an epidemiologist......". I can't find any reference to that qualification on her (sketchy) bio. The tendency to this claim and a "dream" she has (according to one reporter she pushed for 85% threshold before opening, she didn't answer the question) gives a disturbing insight into the reality of her mindset. In fact, trying to locate any information on her qualifications isn't easy, one govt web page that may have had some information is blocked.
“As we take the edge off the severity of Covid we will need to figure out what public health measures we’ll need in place,” she said. It sounds like she has a job for life quoted from the following link - https://www.theguardian.com/australi...outbreak-grows
Nice to know that our lives are now being regulated ("years into the future" she quotes) by an unelected, possibly unqualified, public servant.
Denying people the ability to partake in daily life is hardly freedom of choice. Apparently it's now "ok" to ask people for their vaccination status in order to decide whether to associate with them:-Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
"I know I wouldn't want to be in a room with an unvaccinated person" quoted GB at today's press briefing.
For someone that aspires to be re-elected to a leadership position that seeks to divide people based on pseudo "freedom of choice" and to actively enforce this ideology by bypassing the democratic process is disturbing.
Dividing the population doesn't seem to be an issue for most politics these days. Then we will only blame the unvaccinated and not the ones responsible for this poor management of this pandemic: more than 2 months in lockdown for finally get a glimpse of a road map?! I'm not saying it's easy but clearly it could have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by adahar
But here in Australia we seem to accept the coming discrimination between vaccinated and unvaccinated. I can understand that after being locked for so long people are sick of it, don't care anymore and will accept whatever surveillance will be put in place as long as they can eat their burger or have a beer outside. This could be dangerous, for how long are we going to scan a QR code and show our vaccine passport? Nobody knows...
I wonder wether she'll want unvaccinated people voting come election time, 20-30% could sway the results..Quote:
Originally Posted by adahar
Maybe she is thinking of not running for the next election. Then the other 70 to 80% vaccinated people maybe voting for her. She done the calculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
You can always vote the government out if not happy. The government can change the PHO in NSW parliament if not happy. In a democracy public opinions and votes in elections is the cornerstone. Laws and regulations are pass or overture by parliamentQuote:
Originally Posted by adahar
She couldn't get 70% of votes, you're kidding, Liberal party will lose next election in a landslide.. 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
So you're line of thinking is, the 70-80% of all vaccinated people are Liberal voters..
It doesn't matter who you vote for. The same public servants will still be running the health show and keen to get any govt to follow the "health advice". The fact that some politicians have recognised the potential of PHO's and the technology that supports their application only complicates the situation. This will hold true for any political persuasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
Take, for example, Morrison's statement "Australia is not a mandatory vaccination country", several times. He never affirmed the principle of freedom of choice. This omission opened the door for any business to remove freedom of choice arbitrarily using the excuse of "work safety". The weakening of this fundamental element of democracy will continue as it allows just about any citizen to discriminate by demanding that you not only have to reveal your health status but demand proof thereof.
Your entire life since the moment you were born has been regulated, this is hardly differentQuote:
Originally Posted by adahar
You have a choice, get vaxxed or don't. Each of these choices has privileges and drawbacks. If you're not comfortable with the consequences of your choice then maybe rethink itQuote:
Originally Posted by adahar