Shops/RnT reopening at 80%

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

No need to bet, it’s a done deal:

70% estimated to be effective as of Monday 11 Oct, massage parlors and other personal services can open with 1 person per 4 sqM

80% probably in two weeks after, changed to 1 person per 2 sqM

1 December, intimate services can open = brothels.

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Good on your bro telling as it is. Look like some people don't know how to read.

Earlier than I thought then. Tick tock, not sure what to do.

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Originally Posted by tpol

One of the senior police said they won't police until they get a complaint or call from someone.

Now a disgruntled punter might just dob in a shop

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I would imagine if a shop was caught with a book full of fake names and zero QR code sign-in. That's a $5K fine to the shop and every punter there who didn't "really" sign in also gets a $1K fine.

That's a pretty expensive punting session there.

Surely they won't check every shop, but they will try to make an example of a shop if a council inspector went in or some disgruntled punter complains.

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Originally Posted by studsg

I would imagine if a shop was caught with a book full of fake names and zero QR code sign-in. That's a $5K fine to the shop and every punter there who didn't "really" sign in also gets a $1K fine.

That's a pretty expensive punting session there.

Surely they won't check every shop, but they will try to make an example of a shop if a council inspector went in or some disgruntled punter complains.

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How would you trace back the punters to fine them? How would the shop know the punters give fake names?

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Originally Posted by surething91

How would you trace back the punters to fine them? How would the shop know the punters give fake names?

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they can't lol, unless they add in more requirements by Govt.
At that time i'm sure they will be too busy dealing with outbreaks

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Originally Posted by surething91

How would you trace back the punters to fine them? How would the shop know the punters give fake names?

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All shops have CCTV. They'll display images on the news just like that dude who had covid and still went out

They'll have, ring crime stoppers if you recognise this face

Keep your mask on guys

In China, they have facial recognition systems. We might too but we weren't told about it

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Originally Posted by tpol

All shops have CCTV. They'll display images on the news just like that dude who had covid and still went out

They'll have, ring crime stoppers if you recognise this face

Keep your mask on guys

In China, they have facial recognition systems. We might too but we weren't told about it

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"Oh man, are you going to find these guys or... you know, I mean... have you got any promising uh... leads?"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7acD4q0lp0

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Originally Posted by tpol

All shops have CCTV. They'll display images on the news just like that dude who had covid and still went out

They'll have, ring crime stoppers if you recognise this face

Keep your mask on guys

In China, they have facial recognition systems. We might too but we weren't told about it

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Facial recognition has been around for a while , similar to rego recognition

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Originally Posted by warwick1

Facial recognition has been around for a while , similar to rego recognition

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I read somewhere china had to upgrade theirs to cater for mask wearing

I am pretty sure common sense will prevail and the regulations will be updated to allow brothels and massage parlours with brothel license to open at 80% the same as R&T massage places.
Expect an announcement from Gladys in the next few days ...
The current situation where people can go and have sex in small, cramped, dank, unregulated premises from October, but have to wait until December to have sex in spacious, licensed, regulated premises makes no sense at all, and cannot stand.

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Originally Posted by rooter

I am pretty sure common sense will prevail and the regulations will be updated to allow brothels and licensed massage parlours to open at 80% the same as R&T massage places.
Expect an announcement from Gladys in the next few days ...
The current situation where people can go and have sex in small, cramped, dank, unregulated premises from October, but have to wait until December to have sex in spacious, licensed, regulated premises makes no sense at all, and cannot stand.

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That is the government for you bro rooter. A few of us have been predicting the reopening for massage on the 11th forever and got laughed at.

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Originally Posted by youngnfun

Are we sure R&T will be included under "massage parlours" and not "intimate services"/sex services/however you want to word it. Erotic massage could get lumped in with FS places no?

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R&T? What's R&T? I just go to my massage place for a massage. It IS just a massage parlour like any other massage parlour, you know. Don't worry about what happens in the room, that's none of nobody's business....

I personally think having normal massage parlours open but not licensed ones is a miscalculation on the part of the Govt. It is impossible to police if you think about it. We're talking about someone having the privilege, to actually try to use that privilege (open and run a licensed shop), in order for them to break the rules.

NSW Gov currently reviewing what is open at 80% and personal services was mentioned, keep an eye out in the next few days. Fingers crossed common sense prevails....

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

R&T? What's R&T? I just go to my massage place for a massage. It IS just a massage parlour like any other massage parlour, you know. Don't worry about what happens in the room, that's none of nobody's business....

I personally think having normal massage parlours open but not licensed ones is a miscalculation on the part of the Govt. It is impossible to police if you think about it. We're talking about someone having the privilege, to actually try to use that privilege (open and run a licensed shop), in order for them to break the rules.

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Correct, a massage parlour license as massage parlour is a massage parlour any extra is up to the ml to accept to do extra. The mamasan just say I don't know because I can't see what is going on inside the room. Is all able the licencing. I don't think their is a legal definition on R&T in NSW only the term invented by us punters, I maybe wrong.

Do you think Kerry and Gladys knows what a rnt is?

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Originally Posted by Climax598

Correct, a massage parlour license as massage parlour is a massage parlour any extra is up to the ml to accept to do extra. The mamasan just say I don't know because I can't see what is going on inside the room. Is all able the licencing. I don't think their is a legal definition on R&T in NSW only the term invented by us punters, I maybe wrong.

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Well, almost correct. There really are licensed erotic massage places where it is a given that sexual services are offered on premise. 227 Broadway, Kings Court, Sydney Baby massage, Diva in Surry Hills (not the shop in Central!), all the Korean places like Midas, Juliet's, all are licensed sexual service premises.
Then there are others that do not have a license, that are just massage parlours where "things just happen behind closed doors".
We punters call both types of shops the same way, RNT joints.

The first group of shops cannot open yet in Oct, but the second group can. There are HEAPS of those around. All the shops along Pitt St, all around Chinatown, in the burbs, they're everywhere. For a couple of months before brothels reopen, that's more than enough for everyone to enjoy.
And here's the kicker. Say I'm a boss of a licensed premise. What's stopping me from picking up a new joint that doesn't have a license, setup a "popup" massage parlour and bring all my girls there? Just because I have a licensed premise doesn't mean I have to only rely on that to make a living. The only thing they have to deal with is getting busted by undercover council guys. In this regard, I am still trying to figure out if the pandemic would impact on the councils' ability to hire undercover investigators for that sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by surething91

How would you trace back the punters to fine them? How would the shop know the punters give fake names?

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I was referring to the punters who are in the shops during a raid. Quick check of their ID and what was signed in and there goes $1K in fines.

The shop will cop another $5K. So it's up to mamasan or papasan to decide if it's worth them continuing to do a book record of fake names, cos the 2nd round fines doubles. That is if they get to a 2nd round or they may be ordered to close for a few weeks.

Either way it's a risk we all have to take going punting (pun intended)

BTW,I'm sure some one said you can't use a book anymore. If you don't use a phone to scan the qr code, u have to get a card from govt

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Originally Posted by tpol

BTW,I'm sure some one said you can't use a book anymore. If you don't use a phone to scan the qr code, u have to get a card from govt

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that only works if the business has one of those scanners. TBH i doubt many will have it or be willing to invest in it.
The easier way is a sign in sheet, easy for all parties.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Well, almost correct. There really are licensed erotic massage places where it is a given that sexual services are offered on premise. 227 Broadway, Kings Court, Sydney Baby massage, Diva in Surry Hills (not the shop in Central!), all the Korean places like Midas, Juliet's, all are licensed sexual service premises.
Then there are others that do not have a license, that are just massage parlours where "things just happen behind closed doors".
We punters call both types of shops the same way, RNT joints.

The first group of shops cannot open yet in Oct, but the second group can. There are HEAPS of those around. All the shops along Pitt St, all around Chinatown, in the burbs, they're everywhere. For a couple of months before brothels reopen, that's more than enough for everyone to enjoy.
And here's the kicker. Say I'm a boss of a licensed premise. What's stopping me from picking up a new joint that doesn't have a license, setup a "popup" massage parlour and bring all my girls there? Just because I have a licensed premise doesn't mean I have to only rely on that to make a living. The only thing they have to deal with is getting busted by undercover council guys. In this regard, I am still trying to figure out if the pandemic would impact on the councils' ability to hire undercover investigators for that sort of thing.

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with the amount of COVID going around they prob are avoiding places lol

Hopefully most will be open on 11/10 at 70%

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Originally Posted by rooter

I am pretty sure common sense will prevail and the regulations will be updated to allow brothels and massage parlours with brothel license to open at 80% the same as R&T massage places.
Expect an announcement from Gladys in the next few days ...
The current situation where people can go and have sex in small, cramped, dank, unregulated premises from October, but have to wait until December to have sex in spacious, licensed, regulated premises makes no sense at all, and cannot stand.

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As much as I would like to claim to be psychic, today's announcement wasn't quite what I had in mind :)
But anyway lets move on ...
The three contenders for the new Premier are Stokes, Ayres and Perrottet.
As far as the implications for punting go, Ayres is moderate left and Perrottet is moderate right, but both are pro-business and been encouraging Gladys to open up the economy ASAP, so either one is good news for punters.
The new Premier will most likely be Perrottet, with Ayres still having a decent outside chance, so either way good news for punters, and shops opening up soon.

The premier Glady just resigned.. who will be our next premier?

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Originally Posted by suka02

The premier Glady just resigned.. who will be our next premier?

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In my opinion Gladys did good job from day one, she was open and upfront about everything, fingers crossed they appoint premier who is for people. If you are following this forum Gladys, you know we loved you.

Perrottet with him to continue to be Treasurer until the next election which I think is scheduled for sometime next year?

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Originally Posted by rooter

As much as I would like to claim to be psychic, today's announcement wasn't quite what I had in mind :)
But anyway lets move on ...
The three contenders for the new Premier are Stokes, Ayres and Perrottet.
As far as the implications for punting go, Ayres is moderate left and Perrottet is moderate right, but both are pro-business and been encouraging Gladys to open up the economy ASAP, so either one is good news for punters.
Stokes is from the right wing happy clappy Christian faction so he would not be good news for punters, but luckily he doesn't have much chance of winning.
The new Premier will most likely be Perrottet, with Ayres still having a decent outside chance, so either way good news for punters, and shops opening up soon.

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Agree, Dom Perrotet is a lovely guy, Ayres is an arrogant little cunt but very ambitious. Anyone one who would fuck Marise Payne has serious mental issues, so Ayres is in that category. I think Gladys has done a pretty good job in very trying circumstances.