Don't mind showering if its together, doesnt go for too long and there is some play involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by frisson
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Don't mind showering if its together, doesnt go for too long and there is some play involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by frisson
From what I experienced in Manila punting, I get annoyed when they enter the room late. I don't know if that is the play the papasan and WL's do to waste client's time. though I usually get the deed done. it's just me and my experience
I was with my regular ML last Sunday for our usual 3 hours. A couple of times she was playing with her phone & I chipped her about it as she hadn't done this in any of our previous sessions, albit in a friendly manner. She put it down & then did the same a couple of other times during our session.
I didn't say anything at the time but just before I was leaving she asked me when I was going to see her again and hinted at this coming weekend. I told her I had commitments for the next 2 weekends (which I do btw) & she looked kinda disappointed and sad. I made a rather snide remark about her playing with her phone on "my time" and she just shrugged it off.
I will probably see her again in a few weeks time and see how it goes. If it's more of the same phone shit, then I think it will be bye bye for good and start my search for my next regular... :smile:
Ml gives you CIM, but no sex as reserve to a potential boyfriend. I don't understand this logic lol
Bummer when the dreaded complacency crops up. Sometimes a gap in visits works, other times not. Both sides can fill the gap, either temporarily or permanently. All depends on how business is for HER. Both your and her stock value can fluctuate due to market conditions. And while I have a pitching rotation, I do keep several prospects ready to step in. When a regular drops out, I view it as a scouting opportunity. Neither she nor I are irreplaceable. Good luck either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by schloong
If you see her regularly, why don't you just be upfront with her and lay down the rules of your sessions? 3 hours is a long time, and it's not the same as 3 X 1hr sessions where there are breaks in between for her to fire off a quick message, etc. So it could happen that either one of you might have to do something on your phones during that time. Even in professional settings, people would normally get a break if it was an exceptionally long meeting or workshop, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by schloong
You can perhaps come up with a small compromise, like she can use a few minute at the halfway mark to check her phone, etc. Just treat it like giving the girl a short break.
But boy, 3 hours! I personally could never make myself stay in one of those rooms for that long, regardless how hot the girl was.
Thanks for the comments gents - much appreciated. Yep, will see how things go next time & will keep you posted...
The extra long shower once I've finished is my favourite. I tell them if they shower that long with every customer its not good for their skin. Thanks to this forum i don't come across it too often, but a few months back I saw this girl named Sugar at 479. Best sidewinder boobs I've ever experienced, but boy could she waste time. I never went back.
A 3-hour session? fuck me dead, I would probably want to waste some time as well if I booked that long =P
Did you take a nap with her during the session as well? Hope you set the alarm right otherwise it might just become a very expensive nap, just kidding :)
Melissa at SP was by far the biggest dud punt and time waster I’ve encountered. An hour session of her just talking nonsense about her boyfriend with light touches that barely pass as a massage.
The same Melissa at LeSoleil? Or a different girl?
Gr8 responses lads.
There’s also those that like to finish early. They’re quite rare but watch out - they’ll want you to cum quick and early on the session so that they may have it easier and waste your time not offering additional service after you’ve cum.
Watch out for those.
I’d rather have a mediocre but a solid fuck that lasts an hour, than an energiser bunny who runs out of steam at half time.
Can’t specifically answer your question but can say from personal experience that the Melissa at Le Soleil is very good and there was definitely no time wasted. Very good massage and first class extras available.Quote:
Originally Posted by l337dude
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Originally Posted by l337dude
Many thanks for the feedback guys.
Just some additional info too: She doesn't usually work on weekends which is why she suggested it. We've had I think four 3 hour sessions so far & the first 2 were on a Saturday. Our routine usually went like this: first hour or so both in our undies & lying on the massage table just canoodling, DFK'ing and generally fooling around. We'd finish up by me giving her a good DATY & she'd have a big 'O' or two, then we dressed & went out for a coffee and stroll around the local area, through the markets and on to a second hand shop like Vinnies, then back to the shop for some serious fun. After we finished she would make me some lunch & then time to go.
We have had 2 Sunday sessions so far & things are a lot quieter with much fewer people around. Same start, then go for a coffee while she bought some lunch, then go to my car & grab my picnic rug & a couple of cushions, then walk to a nearby park and have our little picnic. Just a nice time all round. Then back to the shop for same same fun, 'tho we always mix things up a bit too.
So that's the 3 hours scenario & we have been enjoying it very much too. Will see how things are when I go back in about a fortnight...
I don't understand it. If you and her did all that, how did you conclude that her playing on her phone constituted "time wasting" and all the other stuff wasn't? I mean, most of the stuff you mentioned are not what people do in an MP. Making lunch, going to Vinnie's, having a coffee. Those are not time wasting, but her using her phone is?Quote:
Originally Posted by schloong
Hope you don't get me wrong. Not trying to attack you or anything. I just read what you wrote and the only thing that comes to mind was, this is a date. And on a date with a girl, I would never put any restrictions on what she can do with her phone unless it was really extreme.
Bruised male ego I'd say. Didn't have ladies full attention.....if any.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
Yea, but... I'm OLD, and for me, smart phones change the equation. Back when it was flip phones (yes, I'm THAT old), I even restricted their use over 12 hours on a LT gig. With smart phones, they can, and are, often mesmerizing. How many times have you seen a table of people out at a restaurant and every one is on their phone, in their OWN little world.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
For me, it'd depend on what I was doing. If I was on my mobile, OK, but if I wasn't... When I'm in the dentist's chair, I don't expect her to be taking breaks on her mobile, even while I'm taking a break to rinse. The way I look at it, it's NOT a date, IF he is PAYING her for her time. And if it was a date, then, like I say, I'm old school, and if she's on her mobile, fine, up to her, but that's going to be a "talk to you later" not.
It's not a matter of ego. You're paying her for her time (with an understanding of what will occur during that time). What's the old cliche, "he who pays the piper calls the tune..."
Ok, I get it. You don't like people going onto their phones when you're paying for their time. But what about the other stuff he mentioned? Making lunch? She's focusing on the lunch, not him. Having a coffee, is she allowed to take in the scenery or does she have to keep her eyes always on him? Cos I don't see the diff between her enjoying the scenery or reading the menu on the table, vs going on her phone? She's still got her attention on something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
And I don't see how it could be fun or relaxing to take a girl out and then have to monitor her like this. Feels more like work, like you're her manager or something, lol.
Regarding phones
The mobile phone is a business tool for ML/WL
I remember a 1 hour session with ML last year. About 10 minutes in, she has left her phone in the bed next to me, and gets a text saying
'Hi it's Ray, how are you? can I book you at 4pm for 30 minutes'
I saw the message on her screen
She looked quickly but didn't respond. That's business and I respect her need to watch her phone
For a three hour session it's harsh to ask your lady to not use her phone for this reason. They may we'll get a number of bookings this way
What kills the mood for me is when you have a shorter session, say an hour, and they are checking their phone mid punt and interrupting the vibe
You are paying her and deserve her full attention
But the phone issue is nowhere need as bad a crime as the real time wasting strategies WL can use
Yes, my thoughts exactly. On a shorter booking, "no-phones" is a reasonable requirement. Not on a whopping 3-hour blockbuster booking, lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by frisson
Having lunch, doing that together. Maybe a little conversation thrown in. Taking in the scenery, looking at it together, maybe even commenting on the passing crowd (though the "Do you think she's beautiful?" can be a landmine). Menu - any suggestions, especially if we're at one of her country's restaurants. Going to her phone? Now unless we're looking at photos together, why am I paying for her let's play dating interruptus? I UNDERSTAND it's business, but for me, disrespectful. Come on, a clever girl would be off to the head for a comm check as we're waiting for coffee. You're paying for the fantasy...Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
Have to disagree. I find the annoying incoming notifications annoying (yes, I AM sensitive). She looked but didn't respond. Wasn't that a check that interrupted the vibe? (Well, I guess depends on what you were doing at the time). And if she didn't feel the need to respond, then why have the phone on in the first place while she was working? If it's a whale calling, fine. NEXT time she can pass on me, but since she accepted my business this time, she should honor the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by frisson
Besides, doesn't it seem that she might be stiffing her shop? If she was stepping out "on the clock", then why doesn't reception know when she'll be back and take her bookings. If she's off book, then why is she using the shop's facilities. Or maybe she's private. In that case, leave a message.
To me, it sounded a bit more than a quick glace at the phone. Now, if the OP is busy with his own business, fine. But when I'm paying for 1st class, I don't appreciate being shuffled off to economy for the convenience of the stewardess (though I was once asked to move from the top deck - only one there - down to the main deck for meal service - that was fine. But I WAS asked...)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
Having said all that, I do understand when, in a small shop, with only a couple of providers, in the case of an in-person arrival of a potential customer, fine, she might have to step out for a MINUTE to say come back in xxx minutes. But phones? Nah, I don't expect her to immediately answer my text when she's occupied.
And yes, I've stopped going to the cinema because I can't stand the people who just HAVE to check their mobile during the movie. Breaks my attention with what's happening on the screen, and if I've bought a ticket, I expect to be whisked away to fantasy, not being brought back to the real world periodically. Harsh? Never had any complaints as the women I see appreciate and respect my business. And that's been true for the 60 minute massage, the 90 minute session, or the 12-14 hour LT...
I think texting or playing with the phone is sometimes considered rude by many (think dinner dates etc), the older generation more so, the younger genz may not understand it as much, maybe a quick glance is ok but if they are constantly paying attention to their phone then it's generally a bad sign.
Especially now with the messaging and social media madness I imagine it may be hard for some people to go 3 hours without looking their smart phone lol.
Sorry, I was referring to WL having their phones on silent as they receive messages. That's fine
I agree the WL with a beeping phone is definitely a mood killer, but if you both are in the throes of passion, you are both too focussed on fun, that phone beeping at that point is irrelevant
I should make a silent rule next time, for every 5 mins they waste or every time their phone beeps, I'll give it to her hard and teach her the consequences of time-wasting and disrespect =P
Lol I did that to my regular once when she got cheeky. Fucked that phone right out of her hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by l337dude