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I been in near death experience some years ago after that I decided I was going to get all the extra I can get in life. Life is too short. I do go on about my regular gal on here a fair bit, I just feel she and I have a good arrangement going together, then there is the brothels for variety. You can always earn money back but sexual pleasure is something amazing that you need to enjoy when ever you can. Its special.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
If the table is made of solid oak then it's not a prob, it's the portable-foldable Chinese massage foldabke that you gotta avoid. I once snapped the headrest during a passionate session with a Japanese private.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibon
The Thai places generally use the solid timber massage tables. They go for around $600 (from memory)
Hahaa... Of course. I did say this earlier. Several so-called sugar babies are also ML/WL at shops. About 4 years ago there was a nice Indian girl on seeking, early 30s. I was in touch with her but never met. Then 3 or 4 months later she send me a message saying she is working at some brothel at Witherlpark (very far from me) under an assumed name (she gave me) and I was welcome to go see her there. I never did. Fast forward maybe 12 months and she send another random message saying she has a girlfriend and she sent me the photo who would be willing to do a 3-some with me as long as there is no kissing with the other girl and me. Some of these girls keep a long list of the guys they contacted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibon
Gotta say I agree with Rooter. I've never been down the SB route (and its not that I'm not curious) but all the extra effort, scams and costs doesn't really sound like fun. It seems just as fraught with problems as regular dating with a $500 additional price tag.
First room in 84A Atarmon creaks and shakes like hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
Some punters love it because it gives extra sliding movement.
I think they bought it from a museum.
You're right. Organising hotel rooms and trying not to make it too obvious how you meet at the hotel (e.g. she comes a little while after you check-in then waits for you outside the lift,...)Quote:
Originally Posted by keebab
Then some girls on seeking are not reliable. They ghost you and do not show up.
One trick by the sugar babies is to tell us guys that they want to be paid $$ to come for M&G (Meet and Greet -- have coffee or a drink before you proceed to hotel/sex).
Some girls demand anywhere from $50 to $200 to M&G.... and after 20 minutes, they leave and never reply to messages. They keep going around meeting prospective sugar daddies for coffee and collecting cash.
Also, some of those hot-looking 18 to 24-year-old sugar babies are lousy in bed. Seriously so. Unlike ML/WL, some of the seeking.com uni students get undressed and lie on bed and do fuck nothing.
There is definitely an advantage to massage places and brothels -- where the girls know what is expecting of them for the hour.
I have an answer for you. Sugar babies are often girls you cannot find in a shop. Also, they don't watch the clock so when you are fucking you don't worry about how many minutes you have left in your booking.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
Another point that I like is sugar babies do not fuck 10 to 15 guys every day they're on the roster. For some of us, it isn't a great feeling that you are about to start your 45 or 60-minute session in a shop knowing the girl has just washed her pussy 5 minutes ago after the previous guy fucked her, and as soon as you leave, she will have another punter banging her...
But of course so-called sugaring has its down side as I wrote before.
I guess it's a bit of a rush for me.
Like, meeting a girl for the first time, BBFSCIP straight away. Girls from 19 to 33 who stop traffic walking down the street with you.
Of course they want money, so do 95% of women in any relationship. I've lost more being married then on SBs.
I think it was way more exciting when I was single, living in a city apartment.
I'd love getting a call from a crazy SB at 2am, saying pick me up from a party. Only to end up BBFS in the back of my car at this empty space in North Strathfield next to the M4.
Just made me feel like I was in my 20s, totally spontaneous.
Just don't let them move in with you.
I think it boils down to one thing, on a high level: BBFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
To be more detailed, it's about removal of inhibitions and BBFS just happens to be the best thing out of the other things you get when that happens.
Sure, you can get that in shops too, but that requires arguably equal if not more effort and money than SB hunting.
Can understand why a lot of punters enjoy SD. I simply don't have the motivation, time or circumstances to take part and revert to WLs.
I wonder if SDs are a few steps closer to "normal" and this provides the attraction??
I spent a lot of time (and$$s) in Asia's escort bars, particularly the hotel variety where the girls circulated, you connected with many over a few hours, flirting, enjoying a drink, some chit chat and sizing them up from the other side of the bar before making a decision and taking one back to your room.
It was fun, expensive and had a manufactured thrill of the chase.
But quite obviously, despite the normal bar environment they were simply WLs in a different form.
The best thing of having an SB is you can just text her when you want to meet up. You know its going to be good sex if you have been ongoing with her for a while and your like good friends. Not all SBs sleep with multiple guys like WLs in shops, some SBs are exclusive. With mine she often lets one of her Asian lady friends join in. All I have to do is text a time and head over to her place. Convenient. No bullshit from her. No time watching.
Exactly, it is a completely different ball game from the brothels but as much as they are sleeping with as for sex it is not one after another. With my previous SBs as we got familiar and comfortable with each other the sex got better, more spontaneous and natural, there is no procedure, no buzzer, no next booking and I have always stayed with them for several hours. Quite a few times after sex they would do their thing for a while, I would do my thing and then back to bed, food, more wax, etc. it is different all together from the brothelsQuote:
Originally Posted by JSteel96
It's not as good as it used to be precovid. It's becoming expensive escorts.
It's so funny how motivated we all are here by BBCIP. It's so fucking primal haha.
I fully appreciate the flexibility and not having to watch the clock. Its the one thing I dislike about brothels especially if I have a good connection with the WL. I guess the real challenge to SD/SB is sifting through the bullshit and finding the gems you can build a longer term relationship with.
but then so is everything else nowadays expensive. You have to prioritize your wants in life and some extra things you just have to pay up. But you should still be able to find WL escorts or ML with extras etc $150-$300. $500 for an SB is kind of on the high side but if the guy can afford her and she is good then she will take care of his needs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPedro666
Not sure about seeking as I stuck to SD. You get many messages there initiated by sugar babies in the site. But cuz of the system there of credits it's not possible to reply to them all unless you are prepared to spend a fortune. I find most are from Caucasian ladies like close 90%. Maybe seeking is different where there are more asians. Usually it's best to just reply to those verified. As mentioned before many by others the top three issues are still mainly finding a place, the money and just plain chance you happen to find the one you are seeking. Some of them can be pretty desperate. Usually rent is the reason they provide. And they can be very flexible to suit your schedule. Although some working like two or three jobs tend to be less flexible of course.
But I found most much better I terms of spontaneity and gfe than WLs in general. The cost of food, hotel and actual fee per meet can be very straining though.
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I am surprised that the OP was only sorting through 5-6 profiles. I'm an irregular visitor to Sydney, about a week out from a visit I setup an account, message 20 girls with an offer and overnight stay request. I always end up with enough to keep my bed full.
One thing I suggest for the OP is to lower your quality control from the pics. Many girls will post very modest pic/pics knowing they have body image issues. When you meet them they will be trying so much harder to impress you and to perform.
Personally I don't bother to contact or respond to the stunners. They are going to ask stupid price
I agree 100% with you @CumShot. Spot on. From my own experience, the stunners are usually the dud ones in bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CumShot
Agree with both. In my experience it is better to go with the ones who look average but are horny in bed. The stunners ask for too much money, often don’t perform and have a sense of entitlement like they are doing us a favour. I see sugaring as I am adding as much value in the arrangement as the girl is. That seems to work for meQuote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
Hahahaha I hear you guys but there's plenty of stunners out there with low self esteem or daddy issues.
Either that or they love money and are easy.
Most will lower the price if you counter offer, just promise them the world and say you want to see them all the time.
Like I told one girl I'll buy her a YSL bag for her birthday. I did get her one, but it was a grade A copy from HK that was $200. I lost contact with that one now, she's Taiwanese, so she probably found out it was fake 🤣
:rolleyes: Hillarious -- good on you for buying a fake YSL handbag because the genuine article must be around $6,000 and that is far too much to get laid. It was worth trying (with a $200 version). She might have fallen for it (or liked it)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
She did fall for it at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
These fakes come with everything, box, dust bad, serial number, receipt but no price on it, I didn't give her the receipt.
She probably had it evaluated for authenticity and found out it's fake.
Had a friend bring me three different bags from HK.
Seriously, I can't tell the difference.
$6k for a YSL bag even for the proper branded one is way too much, bro. That brand goes on sale fairly often. They usually go for price range of AUD 1500 - 5000 RRP, and you'll be a real mug to be paying the full price for the 5k one.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
I bought one for my then GF from a YSL shop once, paid some where between 1 - 2k for it, full price. Yep, went home, did some research and just banged my head on the wall for being a stupid dick.
Sure enough, the fricking metal "beard" thing on the bag (nice touch from a design perspective btw) came loose and dropped out within 1 year! Thankfully my ex was very handy with super glue and put it back together. God bless her...
Same thing happens with Rolex and other fancy brand watches. The copies have become very very close to the real stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
In the SB game there are many promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
a) Birthday gift promise. First find out when is her birthday. If it's >4 months, chances are she wont be around anyway, so go big. within the next week, be careful on your promises.
b) Ongoing weekly allowance. I am always wiling to discuss this and pay it weekly. Simply paid each time she fucks me each week. If she skips a catch up then the allowance is automatically skipped. This allows me to access the "allowance" seekers while effectively engaging them on PPM. In reality I'm sure most of the SB scene runs on PPM. It so neatly comes to an end when she doesn't make herself available. I avoid all types of 'automated or payment in advance options.