Have to disagree on one point. Only very few of them are highly educated. Rest just highschool or even many of them dropped highschool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DueNorth
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Have to disagree on one point. Only very few of them are highly educated. Rest just highschool or even many of them dropped highschool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DueNorth
Spot on! Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by mn69
I think it very much depends on the individual and their strength of purpose.
One well known WL I saw a few times before she retired in late 20 had a clear purpose of buying and paying off an apartment in Sydney.
She did that and promptly pulled up stumps, said goodbye and disappeared after a medium length WL career.
She had her purpose, knew what she wanted and how to get it and when she did she left and haven't heard of her in 4 years.
She was focused and smart.
Not all are like her.
One girl I know did it privately at a dodgy apartment in Burwood. Lasted about 6 months, then realised people found out and then quit.
She finished her juris doctor and started as a paralegal for a Chinese law firm without PR.
Some girls are just not cut out for it.
No girl doing straight massage is making big money. Averaging $25 an hour or something, and these days the shops are quiet. Even ones working for tips, Post-COVID, post cost of living crisis, I really doubt there are girls pulling $10k a week like some I knew before COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by faruk
I think it's probably worse for WL because they can't choose who they offer what to, and establishment takes a larger slice of the money.
Probably also depends on whether they worked in a party shop. Knew a girl was clean before this industry but couldn't let that shit go, but stopped to have a baby. For a short time she claimed she was cured of meth and never wanted to work in a shop again. Not long after she was back on it and talking about a return.
Agree with you on that. In my near 30 years punting experience, only ever met 2 girls that were really educated. One was a private, early 20s Chinese girl studying for a master degree in USyd, the other was a K girl who graduated from Macquarie Uni with a degree in data science.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joun23
The other girls I've met, some may be highly intelligent, but certainly not educated.
Can a WL ever adjust to a normal life
What the fuck is a normal life?
- To be enslaved for 20-24 years (in the prime) of your life and bound to an educational system?
- To then work and sweat 12 hrs a day and live for 4 just to watch reality TV shows?
- To work tirelessly 6 days a week and only enjoy 1 day off?
- To work and slave your ass off all year only to get 2 weeks off in Bali?
- To work and slave all your life so you can pay off the mortgage, give your ungrateful kids an education, pay off all your debts, only to get divorced raped by your ex and fucked over by the legal system and the tax man?
- But luckily you saved enough money for retirement and can enjoy the remaining days of your life only to find your body is fucked, wrinkled, out of shape, and riddled with disease.
- Then after you die all the people you know will forget you or remember that you ever existed, memories will fade, people will move on with their normal lives, you will be forgotten and your name, savings, assets, and life achievements will fall into the abysses of the unknown.
Is that what you call a fucken normal life? A slave to a mortgage, a company, a job, an education, a career, a business, a sexless marriage, the tax man, a bank, the government, a religion, the system .....If that's a normal life, you can stick that up your fucken arse.
So whether you're a punter, a prostitute, a criminal, the king of England, a politician, a celebrity, or a simple tax paying law abiding citizen, we all live abnormal lives.
As for little adapter, he's getting some raw dog tonight and there's nothing abnormal in that!
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Originally Posted by Joun23
True. Normal life = life for the average personQuote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
Anyone outside of the normal life is abnormal by definition
If you can afford to punt & travel to punt, means you are doing alot better than the average person financially. I would rather be "abnormal"
The life you describe is the life for many people. Some people are even worse off than that. Think of the people that live in parts of Asia where there's poverty. They live in apartments not much bigger than a cubicle. Then there are those that live in ways that we would almost consider them homeless by Australian standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
When I have travelled in parts of Asia, I saw that some older people were selling fruit and vegetables on the side of the road or similar. They must wake up everyday to do that and you assume their standard of living isn't very high.
Many people in Sydney pretty much work 9-5, 5 days per week and have the weekends off. Many are probably not slaving at work either. However, there does seem to be a lack of free time. I'm not sure if people have more free time now or three decades ago. There are so many conveniences now but it seems like people are expected to do more. Not many people have enough money where they don't need to work or can work fairly easily. The majority of people are middle class and generally have to work reasonably hard to get through life.
I'm recently going through a bit of an existential crisis. So reading your post has made me think. You do describe a fairly bleak description of life. However, let me say that many of my friends are happily married with kids and seem to live fairly wholesome lives. Their lives aren't without stress, but it seems fairly wholesome. Meanwhile I'm single and still paying for sex. It was fun years ago, but I don't really want to continue on this path now because it's an empty and lonely road. I've had gfs in the past but they weren't the right girls. I fear fucking so many WL has made me lose the ability to pair bond and also my standards are now pretty fucking high, especially with social media which seems to have rot my brain.
What I might try to do is punt to enjoy myself but not have it as a compulsion like before. That shit can't be mentally healthy.
I know a guy that met a massage girl in the shop and now they have two kids and live in Japan. There are WL that I have met in the shop and they were studying at uni and they don't work anymore, so I assume they quit and are working "regular" jobs.
One WL I know is now married after moving back to Japan. Another one got married and divorced and now has a new bf.
I think some girls can do it. I'm not sure how they can just forget all the shit they went through during their WL days. I mean that shit must be fairly traumatic but I guess some can handle it better than others. Just like some soldiers go to war and are never the same again while some probably are able to go back to civilian life and live normal lives.
The ones that are mentally strong adjust. They are just having sex for money, it's not that bad lol. They often have issues that's for sure but so does everyone else. Doctors, cops, lawyers etc all jobs have stress and impact your health and how you are with your loved ones.
The girls are fine.
A normal life is one where you're not fucking 10 guys a day for money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
I reckon they can if they have other options. I was once with a popular and long term regular of mine and she noticed I wasn’t quite right so she asked what was wrong so I said a bit of stress related to work. Her answer was, what are you stressed about? I have stress, I am getting old and have no other prospects. If they have other options I think they can adjust, if not I don’t think they will.
A lot of the girls have degrees in their own countries and or study here so they aren’t all stupid when you are on a student visa and no one will hire you because you can only work 20 hours and have limited English this is the only option I have lots of ML friends that come over to my house for parties so I hear a lot about their lives
A ex of mine who I found out was a WL only after we had ended (her ‘hotel’ work was not exactly as she described to me) hooked up with this guy straight after me who clearly knew she was a WL and almost 20 years on they are still married with 2 kids. Btw I am not stalking her or him, a mate contracts the odd job out to the guys company and they have the odd chat.
Could anyone change profession mid stream in life?
Have had a few friends of time who did the change due to mid life crisis. All successfully transitioned. At this mid life point, money isn't as huge of a priority, so they are happy to go back being a standard employee in a complete new industry doing something they like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaft
Some people can, but they would have to be willing to take a pay cut, at least in the short term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaft
Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. The regular punters merely flies trapped in a spider’s web. The spider feasting on and draining the fly in more ways than one.Quote:
Originally Posted by faruk
Personally I know of 3 Chinese WL who got in, worked hard and got out with the money and assets they aimed for. All in less than 4 years and a now doing ok back at home. 2 married and 1 that plays for the other team and is in a relationship. Normal life. I don't think I am qualified to say what a normal life is but they are a long way down the road from were I was at 30. And yes, I have met the train wreck individual as well. Strength of character is probably the most important feature for a WL to survive the business. But that is also important for all of us to survive in whatever business we live in. 👍
Then there are the girls that go from worker to owner, running a shop or a private agency.
Actually quite a few of those.
Very true. I guess most people would think that "normal" means to save and avoid excess when you're young, with the ultimate goal of being "safe" in retirement, ie. When you're old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaft
Alas, there in lies the irony. All the expensive stuff that you can enjoy are best enjoyed when you're young! Travel the world? Wear fashionable clothing? Buy expensive handbags or accessories and pair them with your expensive clothing? You will not enjoy any of that even if you can afford it when you're old.
At the end of the day, you gotta think, what is life about? Is it the number of zeroes you have in your bank account when you're on your deathbed? Or how "safe" you are, that you've got a roof over your head and a few more "just in case"?
Or is it the experiences you've had in your lifetime?
Many here keep on going at the WLs who've spent every dime that they earnt when they were at their prime and "had nothing to show" for it. I just think that just because you can't see what they've gotten materially doesn't mean they got nothing. It's all in the experiences they had.
EDIT: And I'll add one more point. It's ironic that we of all people look down on WLs who've spent every dime on experiences. We're punters, the whole point of what we do is to spend lots of money for literally "nothing to show" for it.