This is worth the price of admission alone. Thank you Papasan Jacob!Quote:
Originally Posted by JacobPapasan
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This is worth the price of admission alone. Thank you Papasan Jacob!Quote:
Originally Posted by JacobPapasan
Thank you for the PM but you have just asked for more information about what happened and I am happy to post this for OPs to read.
Nana - clothes off from start, made an effort to give a reasonable massage but says no training received at all on massage or HJ. She says customers gave her a few suggestions.
I put one hand on her body, above the hip. She says touching is extra. I then continue Fondling breast, play with her nipples.
Reach below and she says no FIV. Play with protruding pussy lips for a short time and she gets slightly wet. I ask if she is enjoying and she says no, never does. I stop.
A very poor HJ follows which does not lead to a release.
Afterwards she asks for $50, I give her less and she says she is going to talk to boss.
I leave. Hear nothing. Have not been back
Jacob, you are welcome to PM me but please don’t imply you are resolving this in a PM when that has not happened (yet)
She did receive training from the more experienced girls regrading massage. Im not sure why she would have said this? Language barrier issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Massagecreep
The part where she asks the boss?? I was never informed about this issue at all? Nor was I not informed from my receptionist (my receptionists are usually very good at notifying me of irregularities). I apologise firstly as the shop owner, that there is a breakdown in the flow of communication between Nana and reception/myself.
Ill handle this personally from my end, I'll be speaking to Nana regarding this issue and correcting it. Im only native English speaker and i can attest that communicating in other languages with the girls can be challenging (yes its a shop issue).
I'll make it clear that Gently touching the girls boobs and ass is part of the admission fee.
Please also don't think that i don't value your business or anyone else's. I deem everyone's transactions very important.
Consider this matter handled sir.
In sign of good faith, please PM me and I'll organise a partial refund OR discount your next booking.
In future please reach out to me directly to resolve such matters efficiently/effectively 🙏
Thanks
Jacob
I've just read your multi quick reviews.
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...-quick-reviews
Actually thank you for your multiple visits. We specially want to ensure our regular clients are well taken care of.
Just text him through their main wechat account and Jacob will sort it out quickly. He's usually pretty accommodating to listening and fixing the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Massagecreep
Conflicts between 3 or more parties take times and agreements, not easy by saying. Hopefully between these parties able to compromise some sort of solutions lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asiandaddy
Yes agree Jacob or receptionists always asking my experience after sessions, I have got no problems with those girls I visited previously as some girls requested additional tips for touching. I just avoid those and no return. It’s punting have fun.
This thread’s got more drama than a Newtown sharehouse at rent time. Honestly, it’s the perfect storm — punters feeling ripped, MLs feeling overexposed, and shops playing musical chairs with accountability.
Let’s break it down. Punters roll in, wallet out, thinking NHJ includes a full buffet of flesh-on-flesh action. But halfway through the rub, the ML goes, “Touching’s extra,” and now you’re sitting there oiled up like a Christmas ham, negotiating nipple tax. That’s not sexy — that’s stressful.
On the flip side, MLs aren’t vending machines. Just ’cause you tapped your card at the front doesn’t mean everything’s on the menu. They’ve got boundaries, comfort zones, and sometimes, yeah — instructions from above to upsell. Some of ’em are out here winging it with no proper training, learning HJ form from punters like it’s a TAFE workshop.
And then we’ve got the shop — promising the world up front, then disappearing faster than a schooner at happy hour when things go pear-shaped. If management wants to push “touching included” and “clothes off from the jump,” they better back it up with clear rules and consistent delivery. Not just vague vibes and Jacob’s bedtime stories.
Now, here’s a cheeky little curveball for the punters: before we start moaning about what we should be allowed to touch, maybe take a cold, hard look in the mirror. Real talk — would you want to be touched if you looked like you just crawled out of a bush behind Central station? Hygiene matters. Presentation matters. No one wants to be fondled by a bloke who smells like expired Lynx and disappointment. We all want the fantasy — but fantasies don’t have halitosis.
This whole game’s built on expectation. Punters want smooth sailing. MLs want to feel safe and respected. Shops want the register ringing without the headaches. You want less conflict? Start with clear communication, better hygiene, and maybe — just maybe — leave the entitlement at the door with your shoes.
Anyway, I’m off to exfoliate and rethink every punt I’ve ever phoned in. Stay sexy, gents — but maybe start by smelling that way.
Sfornication, appreciation post ... maaaate .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfornication
12 posts / 3 days in / each one a gem !!!
I've read them all. love the style. love the content.
keep it up
BRILLIANT !!!
:-)
sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT none of what they're writing is an original thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by snot77
To the forum moderators —
Before I go any further, let me be clear:
This isn’t me picking a fight.
This is me pointing out a pattern. A loud one.
Loblaw came into the thread swinging with this passive-aggressive jab:
“Sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT, none of what they’re writing is an original thought.”
He didn’t challenge the ideas. Didn’t engage the humour. Didn’t refute a single point. Just threw a sour grenade from the cheap seats, hoping to undermine a post that actually contributed something to the forum.
This is a pattern with him. It’s not the first time. It won’t be the last — unless we finally call it for what it is:
habitual instigation disguised as commentary.
So let’s roll the tape, shall we?
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Forum Rule Violations: The Loblaw Tasting Plate
“You need to take a step back champ.”
(Miss Massage Thread)
Rule 3 – No Altercation
Tone’s smug, condescending, and aimed squarely at belittling the poster — not contributing to the thread. Less “discussion,” more drive-by ego dump.
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“They can’t confirm extras over the phone. It’s illegal.”
(Same thread)
Thread Hijacking / Rule 3
Look, we know it’s illegal — but you weren’t clarifying, you were derailing. Dropping legal bombs mid-thread to look superior isn’t helpful, it’s performative. You weren’t adding depth — just flexing Google Law School 101.
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“Try harder… RTFM.”
(Massage ‘Parts’ Thread)
Rule 3 – Hostility / Thread Derailing
That wasn’t advice. That was tech-bro sarcasm thrown at a genuine question. You don’t sound smart — you sound like Clippy got bitter and joined a brothel forum.
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“I didn’t even know they posted publicly about punters!”
(Japanese Sex Workers Thread)
Rule 1 – Disrespecting Workers
You follow that up by egging others on to post screenshots and “do the deed” — veering into dangerous territory of encouraging doxxing and online stalking (Rule 5: Privacy). Just because the content’s public doesn’t mean you should be rallying the punter army to dig it up for forum clout.
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Repeatedly dismissing Marie’s story as a “fictional troll”
(Marie’s Industry Journey Thread)
Rule 3 & Rule 1 – Malicious Attacks / Creating Conflict
You didn’t just express doubt. You reinforced others calling her a fake, fed the troll narrative, and actively derailed a vulnerable conversation. That’s not critique — that’s targeted harassment.
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And then you roll into this thread — no review, no insight — just:
“sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT…”
Classic Rule 3 breach. No debate. Just insult. You show up with a wet lettuce of an accusation and expect applause?
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Your Forum Contribution, Quantified:
• 0 full reviews
• 0 original insights
• Just passive-aggressive corrections, sarcastic footnotes, and recycled shots we’ve heard a hundred times before
And here’s the final sting…
You called me unoriginal?
Mate — you’re the least original thing here.
Every comment you make feels like déjà vu with dandruff.
You’re not breaking new ground — you’re just digging up old bones.
You’re not clever — you’re just quoting the ghosts of punters past.
We’ve heard your lines before. From other bitter sidelines boys who couldn’t handle someone new showing up with energy, insight, and yes — actual punchlines.
You’re not a thought leader.
You’re a thought leech.
Another parasite hiding behind policy reminders and pseudo-intellectual posturing because you never had the balls to put yourself out there.
You’re not original, Loblaw.
You’re just loud.
So yes — you started this.
And I ended it.
With rhythm, facts, fire, and flair.
And I didn’t need to hide behind cynicism or cut-and-paste catchphrases to do it.
Now go write a review.
Or don’t.
But stop dragging down the forum like a backpack full of wet towels.
Mic dropped.
Post stamped.
Parasite purged.
Hello @Sfornication - Take it easy, buddy. Men going to massage shops and receiving sexual favours is not exactly legal in Australia unless it is a licensed brothel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfornication
Also, it is an industry which is not compliant with Australian Consumer laws. This forum is simply for sharing intelligence about shops and experiences. We the punters are prepared for both surprises and disappointments/let downs.
If you go to a shop and do not like the experience, usually the maximum loss to you is about $100 and 60 minutes. Move on. Try another shop.
Let’s be real — if I even tried to touch the therapist at a normal massage place, I’d be kicked out faster than you can say ‘relax’. So yeah, the answer is definitely yes.
Ok this is actually funny... 4 out of the 5 quotes attributed to me were made by other commenters. Don't blindly trust ChatGPT output :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfornication
To get back on track, the status at 6 Poplar seems to be:
- girls will be naked from the start (great!)
- light touching is ok
- charging extra for more than that is approved/encouraged by management
- Jacob has apologised for what happened/didn’t happened during my visit.
Overall not a bad outcome.
However, it makes me wonder if other places like MAC are looking like better value.
Don't touch the light. You'll burn your fingers.
@Loblaw — just circling back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loblaw
You claimed 4 out of 5 quotes in that roast weren’t yours… but I’ve now cross-referenced them directly from your own post history — which, in case you forgot, is public. Just click your profile, hit “Find latest posts,” and boom — every jab, one-liner, and snide dig is right there in the open.
You dropped lines like:
• “Are you old, bald, fat or farang?”
• “Sfornication is just copy-pasting from ChatGPT.”
• And let’s not forget backing someone who called WLs “cum dumps,” brushing it off as “just harsh wording.”
Those quotes weren’t invented. They weren’t misattributed. They were yours. Word for word. Timestamped. Sitting in the open like wet towels on a shop floor.
So if you’re gonna throw shade, at least own your shadow.
Because the moment those lines came back dressed in context, you pulled the Shaggy defence — “Wasn’t me.”
Mate… it was absolutely you.
This ain’t beef. It’s just facts.
You don’t have to like the mirror — but don’t pretend it’s foggy when it’s crystal clear.
Still Sfornication.
Still undefeated.
Still two clicks away from your entire playbook.
@Andrew V —Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
I’m always up for a healthy debate.
Let’s make that clear upfront — this is not an argument.
No shots fired, no personal attacks. This is forum dialogue the way it should be — sharp, satirical, and (unlike some replies)… actually original.
But since you stepped in, let’s address what you said — and maybe what you didn’t realise you were doing.
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“Take it easy, buddy.”
Classic tone-policing. You kicked it off with condescension before you even acknowledged the content.
I didn’t mention you.
Wasn’t writing about you.
But here you are — “buddy-ing” me from the sidelines like a dad trying to calm a 10-year-old with a melted Paddle Pop.
Let’s be real — this type of reply doesn’t add to the thread.
It’s not experience-based. It’s not intel.
Forum Rule 3 says no altercations — and framing a reply with low-key sarcasm like that isn’t a contribution, it’s bait.
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“Sexual favours aren’t legal unless it’s a brothel…”
Ty.
Duh.
Freddy.
Mate, I’m talking hygiene, human psychology, emotional disconnect — and you pull out the legal script like you’re the compliance officer at Knock Shop HQ.
It’s the same energy as those “No sexual services offered here” signs taped above the bin — everyone sees them, no one believes them, and quoting it like scripture doesn’t elevate the convo — it just derails it.
That’s textbook thread derailment.
Forum Rule 3 again.
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“Not compliant with consumer law.”
Come on now — I didn’t ask for a refund, I asked why half these punters walk into a room with BO and blind hope, and still expect fireworks.
This isn’t JB Hi-Fi, and no one’s trying to return a dodgy toaster. I was unpacking emotional value, expectation mismatches, and punter entitlement — and you’re reciting section 52 of the Fair Trading Act like we’re on a legal podcast.
If anything, that kind of off-topic flex feels more like attention-seeking than insight.
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“This forum is for sharing intelligence…”
Exactly — which is what I did.
Only I wrapped my post in rhythm, satire, and actual layers.
You? You delivered a dry policy memo, slapped on some sarcasm, and called it “intelligence.”
Here’s the thing:
If we’re all just copy-pasting prices and NHJ summaries, this forum becomes a graveyard of half-baked stats.
Intelligence includes context, not just cost.
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“We share so punters are prepared for let downs.”
Let downs?
That’s your baseline?
I’m not trying to prepare for garbage service — I’m trying to understand why the service is garbage in the first place.
I broke down a cultural trend. You called it overthinking.
But framing criticism as “too emotional” or “too intense” is another form of undermining contribution, especially when it’s aimed at tone instead of substance.
That kind of dismissiveness again flirts with Rule 3 — you’re not adding to the conversation, you’re trying to silence it.
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“It’s only $100 and 60 minutes.”
And there it is — the spiritual shrug.
This is why the experience keeps degrading.
When punters reduce the whole thing to a “meh, move on,” we reinforce mediocrity.
You think it’s about money.
I think it’s about value.
You’re counting minutes.
I’m tracking meaning.
That’s the difference between transactional numbness… and insight.
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So let’s wrap this up like adults:
I’m not attacking you, Andrew.
But you stepped into a thread about punter psychology, hygiene, fantasy, and self-reflection — and turned it into a courtroom monologue and a rulebook recitation.
That’s not how you contribute — that’s how you derail and police tone, which this forum’s rules clearly frown on.
If you’ve got experience to share, bring it.
If you’ve got insight, we’ll vibe.
But if you’re just here to nitpick tone, throw shade without review history, and regulate what should be posted — then maybe, just maybe…
you’re not defending the forum — you’re strangling it.
So again — healthy debate? Always.
Uninvited lectures in the wrong room?
I’ll take my massage from someone who actually offers it, thanks.
Cheers.
Amazing... 652 words.... that is deep stuff. So much for a simple topic about some girls "Charge extra for touching".
OK, I can be gentle of a "Baby Member" for a few months.
@Andrew V —Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
Mate, I’m all for debate. But if we’re going to start comparing thoughts, tone, and contribution, let’s at least keep it clean — and keep it honest.
You’ve hinted at “baby member” status like it’s some kind of credibility test. So for the record, I didn’t realise forum rank on a punters board now equates to intellect. That’s like a learner driver pulling rank on another L-plater — we’re both still finding reverse.
But since we’re on the subject of forum standards, let’s take a look at the rules — the ones that matter more than status tags:
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🔧 Rule 2: Respect Other Members
Definition: Keep it respectful. No insults or belittling tone — even when you disagree.
Here’s how your comments stray:
• “Take it easy, buddy.” – Not respectful, just smug. You didn’t engage my ideas — you tried to tone-police before the conversation even began.
• “I’m not sure Sfornication is the best person to be throwing stones.” – That’s not disagreement. That’s casting shade on character. Who’s throwing stones now?
• “Baby member” jab. – That’s pure status shaming. This isn’t high school. New voices have value.
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🪛 Rule 3: No Provocation or Altercations
Definition: Don’t derail threads with personal jabs or provoke arguments.
Here’s how you danced on that line:
• You stepped into a general post that wasn’t directed at you and made it personal.
• You shifted focus from content to author — that’s provocation, not contribution.
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🔩 Rule 5: Stay On Topic
Definition: Stick to the theme of the thread. Don’t derail.
The original topic was about:
• Touching charges
• Punter/ML dynamics
• Hygiene, communication, expectations
Your reply?
• “Sexual services aren’t legal unless it’s a brothel.”
• “This industry doesn’t follow consumer law.”
That’s not counter-argument — that’s deflection. You went from fantasy psychology to quoting the legal equivalent of a shop sign that says “No Refunds.”
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So before we get too caught up in forum titles and baby member rankings, let’s just agree on this:
If you’re going to challenge someone’s post, challenge the actual points.
Not their join date. Not their tone. Not their character.
If you’ve got something valuable to add — add it.
If not, this just starts to look like gatekeeping in a “junior member” costume.
And the rest of the forum sees that — clear as daylight.
So if the choice is between saying something original as a ‘baby member’ or repeating legal disclaimers as a ‘junior one,’ I’ll take nappies and insight over dry toast and Ctrl+C energy any day.
Cheers.
Who hurt you, @Sfornication.
Did you try to study law at uni and get rejected? Is that it?!
Enough crossing swords.
What was the topic again?
@Sfornication
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
Seeing another wall of five hundred plus words come up in one post… I just don’t read it and it’s now scroll down to the next post.
In today’s society people don’t have the attention span nor the time to sit and read five hundred plus word posts.
I think you’re doing yourself a disservice.
Maybe if you’re desk bound on a laptop and have nothing better to do than experiment with technology and it’s your “interest” I totally understand but to smother threads with walls of words is akin to spam.
I'm pretty sure Sfornication used AI to help write the posts. The tone and icons are a dead give-away
Yep, I experienced it at Redfern Relaxation. Tried to charge me an extra $30 for undressing and touching on top of the $50 for the HJ.
Thanks for the update Jacob, I have noticed your newer girls have been undressing right from the begin. Certainly more value for money compared to before.Quote:
Originally Posted by JacobPapasan