Charge extra for touching

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Originally Posted by JacobPapasan

**On another note**

I have a instructed my girls working at 6 poplar to remove all clothing from the beginning of the massage.

I do believe since the punter has paid for a NHJ at reception. The girl must be naked from the start. Otherwise please let myself or reception know if the girls doesn't and I'll have a word with that particular staff.

Cheers
Jacob

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This is worth the price of admission alone. Thank you Papasan Jacob!

Thank you for the PM but you have just asked for more information about what happened and I am happy to post this for OPs to read.

Nana - clothes off from start, made an effort to give a reasonable massage but says no training received at all on massage or HJ. She says customers gave her a few suggestions.

I put one hand on her body, above the hip. She says touching is extra. I then continue Fondling breast, play with her nipples.

Reach below and she says no FIV. Play with protruding pussy lips for a short time and she gets slightly wet. I ask if she is enjoying and she says no, never does. I stop.

A very poor HJ follows which does not lead to a release.

Afterwards she asks for $50, I give her less and she says she is going to talk to boss.

I leave. Hear nothing. Have not been back

Jacob, you are welcome to PM me but please don’t imply you are resolving this in a PM when that has not happened (yet)

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Originally Posted by Massagecreep

Thank you for the PM but you have just asked for more information about what happened and I am happy to post this for OPs to read.

Nana - clothes off from start, made an effort to give a reasonable massage but says no training received at all on massage or HJ. She says customers gave her a few suggestions.

I put one hand on her body, above the hip. She says touching is extra. I then continue Fondling breast, play with her nipples.

Reach below and she says no FIV. Play with protruding pussy lips for a short time and she gets slightly wet. I ask if she is enjoying and she says no, never does. I stop.

A very poor HJ follows which does not lead to a release.

Afterwards she asks for $50, I give her less and she says she is going to talk to boss.

I leave. Hear nothing. Have not been back

Jacob, you are welcome to PM me but please don’t imply you are resolving this in a PM when that has not happened (yet)

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She did receive training from the more experienced girls regrading massage. Im not sure why she would have said this? Language barrier issues?

The part where she asks the boss?? I was never informed about this issue at all? Nor was I not informed from my receptionist (my receptionists are usually very good at notifying me of irregularities). I apologise firstly as the shop owner, that there is a breakdown in the flow of communication between Nana and reception/myself.

Ill handle this personally from my end, I'll be speaking to Nana regarding this issue and correcting it. Im only native English speaker and i can attest that communicating in other languages with the girls can be challenging (yes its a shop issue).

I'll make it clear that Gently touching the girls boobs and ass is part of the admission fee.

Please also don't think that i don't value your business or anyone else's. I deem everyone's transactions very important.
Consider this matter handled sir.

In sign of good faith, please PM me and I'll organise a partial refund OR discount your next booking.

In future please reach out to me directly to resolve such matters efficiently/effectively 🙏

Thanks
Jacob

I've just read your multi quick reviews.

https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...-quick-reviews

Actually thank you for your multiple visits. We specially want to ensure our regular clients are well taken care of.

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Originally Posted by Massagecreep

No denial by Jacob. And no private messages from him - unrepentant it seems

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Just text him through their main wechat account and Jacob will sort it out quickly. He's usually pretty accommodating to listening and fixing the issue.

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Originally Posted by Asiandaddy

Just text him through their main wechat account and Jacob will sort it out quickly. He's usually pretty accommodating to listening and fixing the issue.

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Conflicts between 3 or more parties take times and agreements, not easy by saying. Hopefully between these parties able to compromise some sort of solutions lol.
Yes agree Jacob or receptionists always asking my experience after sessions, I have got no problems with those girls I visited previously as some girls requested additional tips for touching. I just avoid those and no return. It’s punting have fun.

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Originally Posted by Sfornication

This thread’s got more drama than a Newtown sharehouse at rent time. Honestly, it’s the perfect storm — punters feeling ripped, MLs feeling overexposed, and shops playing musical chairs with accountability.

Let’s break it down. Punters roll in, wallet out, thinking NHJ includes a full buffet of flesh-on-flesh action. But halfway through the rub, the ML goes, “Touching’s extra,” and now you’re sitting there oiled up like a Christmas ham, negotiating nipple tax. That’s not sexy — that’s stressful.

On the flip side, MLs aren’t vending machines. Just ’cause you tapped your card at the front doesn’t mean everything’s on the menu. They’ve got boundaries, comfort zones, and sometimes, yeah — instructions from above to upsell. Some of ’em are out here winging it with no proper training, learning HJ form from punters like it’s a TAFE workshop.

And then we’ve got the shop — promising the world up front, then disappearing faster than a schooner at happy hour when things go pear-shaped. If management wants to push “touching included” and “clothes off from the jump,” they better back it up with clear rules and consistent delivery. Not just vague vibes and Jacob’s bedtime stories.

Now, here’s a cheeky little curveball for the punters: before we start moaning about what we should be allowed to touch, maybe take a cold, hard look in the mirror. Real talk — would you want to be touched if you looked like you just crawled out of a bush behind Central station? Hygiene matters. Presentation matters. No one wants to be fondled by a bloke who smells like expired Lynx and disappointment. We all want the fantasy — but fantasies don’t have halitosis.

This whole game’s built on expectation. Punters want smooth sailing. MLs want to feel safe and respected. Shops want the register ringing without the headaches. You want less conflict? Start with clear communication, better hygiene, and maybe — just maybe — leave the entitlement at the door with your shoes.

Anyway, I’m off to exfoliate and rethink every punt I’ve ever phoned in. Stay sexy, gents — but maybe start by smelling that way.

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Sfornication, appreciation post ... maaaate .....

12 posts / 3 days in / each one a gem !!!
I've read them all. love the style. love the content.
keep it up

BRILLIANT !!!
:-)

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Originally Posted by snot77

Sfornication, appreciation post ... maaaate .....

12 posts / 3 days in / each one a gem !!!
I've read them all. love the style. love the content.
keep it up

BRILLIANT !!!
:-)

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sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT none of what they're writing is an original thought.

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Originally Posted by Sfornication

This thread’s got more drama than a Newtown sharehouse at rent time. Honestly, it’s the perfect storm — punters feeling ripped, MLs feeling overexposed, and shops playing musical chairs with accountability.

Let’s break it down. Punters roll in, wallet out, thinking NHJ includes a full buffet of flesh-on-flesh action. But halfway through the rub, the ML goes, “Touching’s extra,” and now you’re sitting there oiled up like a Christmas ham, negotiating nipple tax. That’s not sexy — that’s stressful.

On the flip side, MLs aren’t vending machines. Just ’cause you tapped your card at the front doesn’t mean everything’s on the menu. They’ve got boundaries, comfort zones, and sometimes, yeah — instructions from above to upsell. Some of ’em are out here winging it with no proper training, learning HJ form from punters like it’s a TAFE workshop.

And then we’ve got the shop — promising the world up front, then disappearing faster than a schooner at happy hour when things go pear-shaped. If management wants to push “touching included” and “clothes off from the jump,” they better back it up with clear rules and consistent delivery. Not just vague vibes and Jacob’s bedtime stories.

Now, here’s a cheeky little curveball for the punters: before we start moaning about what we should be allowed to touch, maybe take a cold, hard look in the mirror. Real talk — would you want to be touched if you looked like you just crawled out of a bush behind Central station? Hygiene matters. Presentation matters. No one wants to be fondled by a bloke who smells like expired Lynx and disappointment. We all want the fantasy — but fantasies don’t have halitosis.

This whole game’s built on expectation. Punters want smooth sailing. MLs want to feel safe and respected. Shops want the register ringing without the headaches. You want less conflict? Start with clear communication, better hygiene, and maybe — just maybe — leave the entitlement at the door with your shoes.

Anyway, I’m off to exfoliate and rethink every punt I’ve ever phoned in. Stay sexy, gents — but maybe start by smelling that way.

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Hello @Sfornication - Take it easy, buddy. Men going to massage shops and receiving sexual favours is not exactly legal in Australia unless it is a licensed brothel.
Also, it is an industry which is not compliant with Australian Consumer laws. This forum is simply for sharing intelligence about shops and experiences. We the punters are prepared for both surprises and disappointments/let downs.

If you go to a shop and do not like the experience, usually the maximum loss to you is about $100 and 60 minutes. Move on. Try another shop.

Let’s be real — if I even tried to touch the therapist at a normal massage place, I’d be kicked out faster than you can say ‘relax’. So yeah, the answer is definitely yes.

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Originally Posted by Sfornication

To the forum moderators —
Before I go any further, let me be clear:
This isn’t me picking a fight.
This is me pointing out a pattern. A loud one.

Loblaw came into the thread swinging with this passive-aggressive jab:

“Sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT, none of what they’re writing is an original thought.”

He didn’t challenge the ideas. Didn’t engage the humour. Didn’t refute a single point. Just threw a sour grenade from the cheap seats, hoping to undermine a post that actually contributed something to the forum.

This is a pattern with him. It’s not the first time. It won’t be the last — unless we finally call it for what it is:
habitual instigation disguised as commentary.

So let’s roll the tape, shall we?

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Forum Rule Violations: The Loblaw Tasting Plate

“You need to take a step back champ.”
(Miss Massage Thread)
Rule 3 – No Altercation
Tone’s smug, condescending, and aimed squarely at belittling the poster — not contributing to the thread. Less “discussion,” more drive-by ego dump.

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“They can’t confirm extras over the phone. It’s illegal.”
(Same thread)
Thread Hijacking / Rule 3
Look, we know it’s illegal — but you weren’t clarifying, you were derailing. Dropping legal bombs mid-thread to look superior isn’t helpful, it’s performative. You weren’t adding depth — just flexing Google Law School 101.

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“Try harder… RTFM.”
(Massage ‘Parts’ Thread)
Rule 3 – Hostility / Thread Derailing
That wasn’t advice. That was tech-bro sarcasm thrown at a genuine question. You don’t sound smart — you sound like Clippy got bitter and joined a brothel forum.

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“I didn’t even know they posted publicly about punters!”
(Japanese Sex Workers Thread)
Rule 1 – Disrespecting Workers
You follow that up by egging others on to post screenshots and “do the deed” — veering into dangerous territory of encouraging doxxing and online stalking (Rule 5: Privacy). Just because the content’s public doesn’t mean you should be rallying the punter army to dig it up for forum clout.

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Repeatedly dismissing Marie’s story as a “fictional troll”
(Marie’s Industry Journey Thread)
Rule 3 & Rule 1 – Malicious Attacks / Creating Conflict
You didn’t just express doubt. You reinforced others calling her a fake, fed the troll narrative, and actively derailed a vulnerable conversation. That’s not critique — that’s targeted harassment.

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And then you roll into this thread — no review, no insight — just:

“sfornication is just copy/pasting from ChatGPT…”

Classic Rule 3 breach. No debate. Just insult. You show up with a wet lettuce of an accusation and expect applause?

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Your Forum Contribution, Quantified:
• 0 full reviews
• 0 original insights
• Just passive-aggressive corrections, sarcastic footnotes, and recycled shots we’ve heard a hundred times before

And here’s the final sting…

You called me unoriginal?
Mate — you’re the least original thing here.
Every comment you make feels like déjà vu with dandruff.

You’re not breaking new ground — you’re just digging up old bones.
You’re not clever — you’re just quoting the ghosts of punters past.
We’ve heard your lines before. From other bitter sidelines boys who couldn’t handle someone new showing up with energy, insight, and yes — actual punchlines.

You’re not a thought leader.
You’re a thought leech.
Another parasite hiding behind policy reminders and pseudo-intellectual posturing because you never had the balls to put yourself out there.

You’re not original, Loblaw.
You’re just loud.

So yes — you started this.
And I ended it.
With rhythm, facts, fire, and flair.
And I didn’t need to hide behind cynicism or cut-and-paste catchphrases to do it.

Now go write a review.
Or don’t.
But stop dragging down the forum like a backpack full of wet towels.

Mic dropped.
Post stamped.
Parasite purged.

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Ok this is actually funny... 4 out of the 5 quotes attributed to me were made by other commenters. Don't blindly trust ChatGPT output :)

To get back on track, the status at 6 Poplar seems to be:

- girls will be naked from the start (great!)
- light touching is ok
- charging extra for more than that is approved/encouraged by management
- Jacob has apologised for what happened/didn’t happened during my visit.

Overall not a bad outcome.

However, it makes me wonder if other places like MAC are looking like better value.

Don't touch the light. You'll burn your fingers.

Amazing... 652 words.... that is deep stuff. So much for a simple topic about some girls "Charge extra for touching".
OK, I can be gentle of a "Baby Member" for a few months.

Who hurt you, @Sfornication.
Did you try to study law at uni and get rejected? Is that it?!

Enough crossing swords.
What was the topic again?

@Sfornication

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

I'm pretty sure Sfornication used AI to help write the posts. The tone and icons are a dead give-away

Yep, I experienced it at Redfern Relaxation. Tried to charge me an extra $30 for undressing and touching on top of the $50 for the HJ.

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Originally Posted by JacobPapasan

**On another note**

I have a instructed my girls working at 6 poplar to remove all clothing from the beginning of the massage.

I do believe since the punter has paid for a NHJ at reception. The girl must be naked from the start. Otherwise please let myself or reception know if the girls doesn't and I'll have a word with that particular staff.

Cheers
Jacob

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Thanks for the update Jacob, I have noticed your newer girls have been undressing right from the begin. Certainly more value for money compared to before.

Hi Jacob
I have sent you a PM with details of my next booking, as you requested

Sfornication is just another account of this other guy forgot it was Willie something. He was like in love with 11Bravo lol.

Very very similar writing style.

As far as 6 poplar in particular I had very sinilar experiences of girls.keeping their clothes on some time ago wtih Jessie and Ai, and an extremely shit punt at World Square with Reiko, who looked like she was about to cry if i so much as put a finger on her.
Like whatever training is being made is absolutely failing and slipping through the cracks.

I just dont punt either place anymore. Its a 3 strike.

I think SBM/SGM (as they are sister shoos) are the last shops in the city which is still worth going to with inclusive prices, and a bunch of them are really pretty too.

Go see Jeane, Alina, Liya, Rachel, as a few to start off with. As with all things YMMV but ive had great FS punts there pretty much everytime (even when their profile doesnt say open minded.or they dont nornally seem to offer).

Just be hygenic, easygoing and respectful.

- F0x

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Originally Posted by F0x

Sfornication is just another account of this other guy forgot it was Willie something. He was like in love with 11Bravo lol.

- F0x

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Well fuck me dead. If some bloke starts a thread saying "he’s in love with a punter on a sex forum" just shut the whole joint down. We’ve passed the point of no return.

So I went to 6 Poplar over the weekend to try someone new (turns out I had seen her before).

I mention naked from the start and she says ‘no, only during HJ’.

She goes to asks the receptionist (Lindsay) who apparently doesn’t know anything about this.

Six weeks ago, Jacob announced to us all the girls would be naked from the start.

The girls are not being trained and the customers are the ones being let down.

I said to the girl that she didn’t have to do anything she didn’t want to do, but she didn’t stay so I got a refund and left.

Jacob, you have spread yourself too thin and have dropped the ball…. Again

It is sad to see hard-working Jacob start to lose traction of his business.

The issue of the girls going naked from the first minute should be BLACK and WHITE.

Go on, Jacob. Decide and implement whichever policy you wish to have in your business, and tell us punters so we can support you or go somewhere else.