Borrowing money from WLs

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Originally Posted by KakeyA

I agree that it is much more cash based than Australia but they have PayPay and I noted a massive difference between staying October 2025 and March 2026 in that in those 4-5 months every store I went to in Tokyo, apart from one, had converted to accepting touchless card payments.

Granted, I was staying in Minato-ku so that’s like comparing the Sydney CBD and Eastern suburbs to the whole of Australia but it was such a notable difference.

I went to one Men’s Esthe and payment was all card, no cash which surprised me

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It's definitely changing but cash is still the main form of payment for things. I noticed last time I was there also

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Originally Posted by Linza Giz

It's definitely changing but cash is still the main form of payment for things. I noticed last time I was there also

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Yeah, as much as people view Japan as being super technologically advanced, there are many parts that are still stuck in the 90/00s.
They still use fax machines and hard copies for important documents.
Even from their subsidiaries in other countries. There are Japanese companies that have offices here in Australia, and the Australian offices still have to send shit like photos and forms for physical company/security IDs via mail to the Japanese offices to create them.
For most technologies, they've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

Even with cash - with the huge uptick in tourists in the last decade, as well as younger generations doing everything online, Japan couldn't afford not to start implementing alternative pay methods. But it's still majorly cash based.

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Originally Posted by Rustyman1980

I agree mate he's definitely a simp because his order posts

But, I told him to change his name to FiredGoon

Because obviously he's poor and stupid and I hear his wife had chlamydia

PS: alpha, Delta gamma, beta, echo, Charlie, tango

Who the fuck cares what kind a guy you are, and who made that shit up

Pick a Greek letter and stick it up your arse, Now goons excited anything with arse in it, but he's definitely Y - yalla

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Lol at telling me what to do Rustyballs.

I dunno what your first and last sentences mean. I googled the word "yalla" and that just made it more confusing.

Are you still upset that I turned down your teabagging offer?

Reminds me of a stand-up clip I saw couple of days ago: "I swear I have never paid money to see prositututes...and I can tell you, they get really, really angry"

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Originally Posted by secret0

Yeah, as much as people view Japan as being super technologically advanced, there are many parts that are still stuck in the 90/00s.
They still use fax machines and hard copies for important documents.
Even from their subsidiaries in other countries. There are Japanese companies that have offices here in Australia, and the Australian offices still have to send shit like photos and forms for physical company/security IDs via mail to the Japanese offices to create them.
For most technologies, they've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.

Even with cash - with the huge uptick in tourists in the last decade, as well as younger generations doing everything online, Japan couldn't afford not to start implementing alternative pay methods. But it's still majorly cash based.

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Have you ever tried to get the tourist tax refund there? I couldn't believe how archaic their system was. They literally had to print the invoice out in triplicate and fill out forms that looked like an exam paper. They had to do that for any purchase regardless now small or large the transaction was. I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Have you ever tried to get the tourist tax refund there? I couldn't believe how archaic their system was. They literally had to print the invoice out in triplicate and fill out forms that looked like an exam paper. They had to do that for any purchase regardless now small or large the transaction was. I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.

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'Triplicate' fuck, you just triggered a forgotten memory. My pile of receipts which the lady stapled all together.
'I felt like they made it that way deliberately to discourage people from claiming it.' Yeah, that and the person who helps you will definitely not be able to speak any English or other foreign language. I did give up in the end because my friend and I had calculated how much we'd get back, and mine was only around $60 worth, so I just got frustrated and binned the receipts.

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Originally Posted by Ron the rimmer

Haha . That’s because if you ever get to know one out of their work environment they will open up and tell you they here this shit all the time and just find it a total waste of time and an absolute turn off lol

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I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

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Originally Posted by justincase

I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

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For someone who thinks nothing of it you sure do post a lot about it.

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

For someone who thinks nothing of it you sure do post a lot about it.

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My thoughts.

It’s what I’m going through at the time. She’s back and I either let her wait or I txt and restart something.

For example, two days ago I was asked by a platinum blonde Vietnamese hottie half my age “I know you like Thai so which restaurant would you like to go to”? I’m obviously on her mind for her to make a move and occasionally she’s on mine.

Yes I want to bang her but again what does she expect afterwards?

So two opportunities but what is the future?

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Originally Posted by justincase

My thoughts.

It’s what I’m going through at the time. She’s back and I either let her wait or I txt and restart something.

For example, two days ago I was asked by a platinum blonde Vietnamese hottie half my age “I know you like Thai so which restaurant would you like to go to”? I’m obviously on her mind for her to make a move and occasionally she’s on mine.

Yes I want to bang her but again what does she expect afterwards?

So two opportunities but what is the future?

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As for me, same reply as Rhett Butler.

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Originally Posted by 11Bravo

As for me, same reply as Rhett Butler.

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Neither do I and that’s precisely why I’m indifferent to women.

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Originally Posted by justincase

I’ve dated multiple out of their work environment and I’ve even put my gf into that work environment 🧐

It’s about telling a joke that simply didn’t register. As a matter of fact I have another on the go and it’s just about whether I can be bothered doing round ten? She’s just come back from OS and I can’t decide if I can be bothered going through the same game that I played like all the others.

It’d be the third date with her. I have to choose direction and journey as her response is always “up to you”. Where do I want to be with this one? She’s a good sort, spends money on enhancements and is softly spoken. Out of work she dresses down which I’m ok with as she avoids attention. The two times we’ve dated she’s been the best looking sort in the room and guys and other girls do look at her, maybe it’s because she’s with a much older guy but there was a similar couple sitting next to us and their age gap wasn’t as evident.

It doesn’t concern me as I’ve dated women decades younger many times before. I think nothing of it and it’s a big reason why I stay fit.

All I have to do is txt her.

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I don't think a guy getting txts from hot chicks to go eat and fuck would be on this forum full time posting about his delusions.

If they are true then go enjoy it . But I suspect you are living a fantasy and you want us to be there with you... For some odd reason

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Occasionally, when I have cashflow issues, I will borrow money at zero interest from wls (they tend to have a lot of cash saved).
My question is, does this make me a simp or an alpha?

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You’re lucky. If I lend money, have to charge for interest!

Can you tell us how much you spent vs how much you borrow from the WLs?

It's like the casino they lend money to gamblers knowing they will lose it back anyway.

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Originally Posted by Linza Giz

I don't think a guy getting txts from hot chicks to go eat and fuck would be on this forum full time posting about his delusions.

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I’m not here full time.

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Originally Posted by justincase

I’m not here full time.

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So true. Glad you took a break between responding to messages from hot Sheila's to respond to us plebs

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Originally Posted by holi_day

Can you tell us how much you spent vs how much you borrow from the WLs?

It's like the casino they lend money to gamblers knowing they will lose it back anyway.

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$5000 from one and $2000 from another. At that stage we were fucking outside the shop so no spend from me other than the initial few visits. And they’d been to my place and trusted me.
YMMV

Mr. Goon - why do you have cashflow issues ?

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

$5000 from one and $2000 from another. At that stage we were fucking outside the shop so no spend from me other than the initial few visits. And they’d been to my place and trusted me.
YMMV

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Did you spend it on rub and tugs?

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Originally Posted by ColesBag

Mr. Goon - why do you have cashflow issues ?

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People can be slow to pay sometimes so outgoings were higher than incomings.
I was also 10-15 years younger.

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

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Originally Posted by gundamsux

I hardly doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

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You hardly doubt?

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Originally Posted by gundamsux

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

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Well, perhaps not that common, but then winning 3k at the pokies and giving it all to a ML not so common either, methinks. But certainly possible.

Trouble with a cash business is where do you keep the cash? Sure, a bank, but then you're probably paying taxes and filing tax returns. If not, your options can be limiting. Safe deposit box, but that too is paperwork to have an account. Under your mattress, but that might get a bit lumpy, and not all that secure. A boss, but that limits your movement. Now, loaning some to someone you trust... dispersing your assets can be a smart move. Risk to everything, but dispersing risk helps. And with undeclared cash, your options for LE are very limited... they do ask a lot of questions. 20 years ago, one BFL was telling how she'd lost 15k USD to a burglary break-in when no-one was there; couldn't report it to LE. Wasn't a sob story, just a matter of fact telling. Seemed to be one of many risks in the business, just one I hadn't considered.

For me, no reason to doubt either story.

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Originally Posted by gundamsux

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

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Well, if you go punt with a high priced escort and take a rain check (ie. Don't have enough $$$ to pay her today.... Maybe tomorrow), that's a loan right there. Only "unusual" part is she didn't know she was going to give you one, lollll

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Originally Posted by gundamsux

I strongly* doubt any WL would lend thousands of their hard earned cash literally with sweat and tears to a punter.

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Fair enough, that’s fine.